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Man Going To Jail Because Suicidal Crazy Chick Cuts Him Off, Causes Accident, Is Killed

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Dave Head - 03 Apr 2007 21:47 GMT
Here's the latest nonsense from the state of Virginia:

http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2007/042007/04032007/272626

Guy is in the inside lane of 2 lanes in the same direction, does a left turn
onto a road where there are 2 lanes but the outer lane ends just after a road
to the right, maybe 300 feet after the interesection.

Suicidal crazy chick races the guy from her position in the outside lane,
doesn't have enough room, cuts him off anyway, causes an accident, and is
killed.

They prosecute the survivor, as is customary in Virginia.  This guy gets a
month in jail 'cuz he didn't back off, and wasn't mindreader enough to possibly
imagine that the chick was a suicidal mental case and wouldn't see the error of
her ways at the last moment and back off as she should have done.

Just don't be present when _anything_ on the road happens in Virginia.  2 other
cars wreck and everybody is killed, and you see it, you'll get charged with
_something_ - the modus operendi here is, "Something bad happened, so
_somebody_ has to go to jail".

Boy, I'll be glad to retire and leave this state.  There's no senses of right
and wrong here, only retribution.

Dave Head
Dave - 04 Apr 2007 00:24 GMT
> Here's the latest nonsense from the state of Virginia:
>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> Dave Head

Sheesh, that's scary.  I was in a similar situation several years ago.  Two
lanes go straight past a red light, then about 1/10th mile later, the RIGHT
lane ends.  It's very well posted (three signs, not all in the same place)
that the right lane is ending, no surprises.  It was an intersection I
passed through at least once a day on the way home.  This particular night,
I happened to hit the light green and was in NO HURRY at all.  I was going
slightly over the speed limit as usual (about 40/35).  There was another car
in the right lane parallel with me as I passed through the intersection.
The other car did not speed up or slow down.  It stayed right beside me,
NEITHER ahead nor behind me.  Approaching where the right lane ends, the
other driver didn't signal to move over, didn't speed up, and didn't slow
down.  The other driver made no attempt at all to change lanes or position
herself so that she could change lanes, even though it was obvious that her
lane was ENDING SOON, and I clearly had the right of way, being that I was
already in the through lane.  When the right lane ended (well, shortly
before), the other driver braked hard, laid on her horn and flipped me off.
WTF lady, I'm just passing through, y'know?  I guess I'm lucky I wasn't run
off the road by that idiot, or I'd be in jail right now?
Unbelievable.  -Dave
Dave Head - 04 Apr 2007 01:35 GMT
>> Here's the latest nonsense from the state of Virginia:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
>off the road by that idiot, or I'd be in jail right now?
> Unbelievable.  -Dave

Yep - I tell ya', people around here are WEIRD.  Had similar thing happen when
I was in the right lane of I-95, and some bozo chick races up beside me on an
entrance ramp, matches my speed, and just sits there.  She's either gonna have
to continue straight and take the cloverleaf exit ahead of her, or get ahead of
me or fall back behind me.  She finally gives me the horn and falls back.  Not
sure what that was about.  Was she expecting me to move over for her, when I
had acres of room behind me?  She'd have a long wait, that's for sure.

And, back to the law stuff, some poor schmuck driving a fire truck skidded on
the ice in Fredericksburg last month and hit some other car, and all the
illustrious hind-sighters declared that it was too dangerous for him to have
been going that fast, 45 I think it was, and that he should have been doing 15
- 30 mph.  On a fire run.  Right.  There's a fire that is about 2 minutes from
gobbling up your kids in a 2nd story bedroom, and you want the fire truck to
take 4 minutes to drive each mile to get to your house fire?  Hopefully, it'll
happen to the self-righteous hind-sighters next time, and we'll see what they
say then.

And it's funny, that we can't all, as the general public, share in the risk
that would come with a fire truck doing 45 mph on the ice, but the damn cops
can chase some Joe Schmuck at 140 mph just to be able to tag him for speeding.
Yeah, that's _real_ important, and worth risking the perp T-boning a van-load
of Brownie scouts just to catch a damn speeder...

Screwed up priorities, thru-and-thru - that's Virginia.  I'm going back to
Indiana.  5 more years, and Sayonara, baby.

Dave Head
necromancer - 04 Apr 2007 05:33 GMT
Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Dave Head had
this to say in rec.autos.driving:

> Yep - I tell ya', people around here are WEIRD.  Had similar thing happen when
> I was in the right lane of I-95, and some bozo chick races up beside me on an
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> happen to the self-righteous hind-sighters next time, and we'll see what they
> say then.

I see those "hind-sighters," all the time around here. They are the
ones who will not move over or otherwise make way for an emergency
vehicle that has lights flashing, siren whaling and leaning on that
buzzer/horn that they use. Yet, if *they* were the one with the
emergency requiring police/fire/rescue, you can damn well bet that
they would expect *you* to get out of the way.

> And it's funny, that we can't all, as the general public, share in the risk
> that would come with a fire truck doing 45 mph on the ice, but the damn cops
> can chase some Joe Schmuck at 140 mph just to be able to tag him for speeding.
> Yeah, that's _real_ important, and worth risking the perp T-boning a van-load
> of Brownie scouts just to catch a damn speeder...

Of course. All the Aunt Judy's of the world have the police and
government in general convinced that exceeding a number on a sign is
some type of crime.

<soapbox> Just had a case around here where a family of pervs was
arrested after a 6 year old boy disappeared (who was later found
dead).  Son is a registered sex offender, and yet the cops coudn't be
bothered to keep an eye on these freaks even when one of them went
before a judge a few days earlier for violating his parole. Had just
one cop been taken off traffic duty around here to keep an eye on this
perv for a few days/weeks/lifetime (or better yet, had the fricking
judge let a dui out to make room for this pervert), that boy might be
alive today.

> Screwed up priorities, thru-and-thru - that's Virginia.  I'm going back to
> Indiana.  5 more years, and Sayonara, baby.

Its not just VA.

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websurf1@cox.net - 06 Apr 2007 01:45 GMT
> And it's funny, that we can't all, as the general public, share in the risk
> that would come with a fire truck doing 45 mph on the ice, but the damn cops
> can chase some Joe Schmuck at 140 mph just to be able to tag him for speeding.

While the wisdom of high-speed chases has been feeding discussions for
years, one would think that there would at least be a few words of
condemnation for the schmuck who chose to do 140 in the first place,
thereby putting others in the position of having to make the choice in
the second place.
Nate Nagel - 06 Apr 2007 01:54 GMT
>>And it's funny, that we can't all, as the general public, share in the risk
>>that would come with a fire truck doing 45 mph on the ice, but the damn cops
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> thereby putting others in the position of having to make the choice in
> the second place.

I think the point was that the *cop* does 140 (or some silly high
number, will today's pathetic cop cars even go that fast?) to catch the
poor bastard doing 80 when everyone else is doing 75 on a road posted 55.

nate

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websurf1@cox.net - 07 Apr 2007 03:53 GMT
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Please re-read the post to which I was responding, quoted in part:
    > can chase some Joe Schmuck at 140 mph just to be able to tag
him for speeding.
Sounds to me like Joe was doing 140.
If Joe S. was doing 80, a cop wouldn't have to do 140 to catch him.
If Joe wasn't running, the cops wouldn't have to chase him at all.
Joe is the one person who decided to create the decision; the
responsibility is his.  The cop should not have to be put in the
position of deciding whether or not to chase.  If Joe doesn't run, the
cop can't chase.  Yes, we put some limits on the chases because of the
possibility of bad things happening.  But never lose sight of the fact
that JOE is the root cause.  He is no poor bastard.  He is a poor
driver, a poor decision-maker, and a poor excuse for humanity.
Fred G. Mackey - 08 Apr 2007 18:03 GMT
> Please re-read the post to which I was responding, quoted in part:
>      > can chase some Joe Schmuck at 140 mph just to be able to tag
> him for speeding.
> Sounds to me like Joe was doing 140.

Sounds to me like the cop went 140 to catch up to Joe Schmuck.  I know
Joe Schmuck and his car can' go that fast.

> If Joe S. was doing 80, a cop wouldn't have to do 140 to catch him.

He might have to and he might just do it even if he doesn't have to.
Brent P - 06 Apr 2007 01:55 GMT
>> And it's funny, that we can't all, as the general public, share in the risk
>> that would come with a fire truck doing 45 mph on the ice, but the damn cops
>> can chase some Joe Schmuck at 140 mph just to be able to tag him for speeding.

> While the wisdom of high-speed chases has been feeding discussions for
> years, one would think that there would at least be a few words of
> condemnation for the schmuck who chose to do 140 in the first place,
> thereby putting others in the position of having to make the choice in
> the second place.

Joe schmuck isn't doing a 140mph. He's probably driving 78mph where the
average speed is 72mph and the speed limit 55mph. The cop drives a 140mph
(or has fast as his crusier can go) to catch up to Joe Schmuck after getting
the crown vic out of the hiding spot.
Brent P - 04 Apr 2007 02:40 GMT
> lane was ENDING SOON, and I clearly had the right of way, being that I was
> already in the through lane.  When the right lane ended (well, shortly
> before), the other driver braked hard, laid on her horn and flipped me off.
> WTF lady, I'm just passing through, y'know?  I guess I'm lucky I wasn't run
> off the road by that idiot, or I'd be in jail right now?
>  Unbelievable.  -Dave

I've had them do that and/or try to force me off the road. Their idiotcy
and lack of planing not to mention lack of decency is somehow in their
twisted world, my fault.
Dave Head - 04 Apr 2007 09:40 GMT
>> lane was ENDING SOON, and I clearly had the right of way, being that I was
>> already in the through lane.  When the right lane ended (well, shortly
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>and lack of planing not to mention lack of decency is somehow in their
>twisted world, my fault.

I'll tell ya, I had, about 10 years ago, someone that thought he was going to
run me off the road, or cause me to drive off the road in order to miss him. He
got beside me, and attempted to force me over.  Me, not being in the mood for
such nonsense, directed my Jeep Cherokee in his direction while still
maintaining my lane on I-70.  I was pissed off enough about some other things
that I didn't much give a F what happened with this, and would have rolled both
cars into tiny little balls and been not all that broke up over it 'cuz all my
troubles would have been over 'cuz I'd be dead.  IOW, I _really_, _REALLY_
didn't give a F.  The guy backed off, assumed a position 100 yards or so behind
me, and never got close again for the rest of the trip back to Indy.

Sometimes you have to be amenible to making yourself eligible for your own
Darwin award in order to deal with some MF's on the highway.   And sometimes
you have to stand up to bullies.

Dave Head
Brent P - 05 Apr 2007 03:40 GMT
> Sometimes you have to be amenible to making yourself eligible for your own
> Darwin award in order to deal with some MF's on the highway.   And sometimes
> you have to stand up to bullies.

I just try to *appear* crazier than they are than actually being so
crazy. I agree about standing up to bullies.
Drunken Driver - 05 Apr 2007 01:23 GMT
>> Here's the latest nonsense from the state of Virginia:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>lane ends.  It's very well posted (three signs, not all in the same place)
>that the right lane is ending, no surprises.  It was an intersection I

Those are "stealth signs", somewhat like the "stealth buses" that
Scott talks about on occasion. My area is full of both, and I *LOVE*
to use those stealth signs (since I usually notice 'em several blocks
away) to screw over the LLBers and other equally incompetent drivers.
I match their speeds, forcing them to come to a complete stop while
waiting for the traffic behind me to clear the merge point.

>passed through at least once a day on the way home.  This particular night,
>I happened to hit the light green and was in NO HURRY at all.  I was going
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>already in the through lane.  When the right lane ended (well, shortly
>before), the other driver braked hard, laid on her horn and flipped me off.

Come on down to South Carolina; that's the modus operandi of most
drivers. It's my opinion that they believe you're *supposed* to let
them in front of you at the last minute, even though they had ample
opportunity to merge properly had they been observant enough to notice
the signs, even the ones with the bright flashing arrows. It does my
heart good to realize there's a good chance those idiots will die
behind the wheel.

>WTF lady, I'm just passing through, y'know?  I guess I'm lucky I wasn't run
>off the road by that idiot, or I'd be in jail right now?

Around here, the only "unsafe" driving practices you'll get ticketed
for are speeding. You're welcome (indeed, encouraged) to drive the
wrong way on one-way streets, not issue turn signals, or completely
fail to yield right of way, without fear of ramification. No wonder my
state leads the nation in the number of fatal accidents / number of
drivers ratio. But that's a good thing, because dealing with these
idiots for the last 25 years has seriously honed my defensive driving
skills.

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Brent P - 05 Apr 2007 03:43 GMT
> Those are "stealth signs", somewhat like the "stealth buses" that
> Scott talks about on occasion.

Much like a road with a low clearance railroad viaduct that I travel
frequently. There are warnings about the low height starting miles away
and yet, truckers and RV drivers keep getting stuck either by wedging
themselves in or going too far where they can't turn around on the two
lane road. Seen a few semi's in the ditch that failed in making the
U-turn or just pulled completely off the road after giving up.
websurf1@cox.net - 06 Apr 2007 01:52 GMT
> In article <dsf813p9gj99cis2rs1tpsheqd8eidm...@4ax.com>, Drunken Driver wrote:
> > Those are "stealth signs", somewhat like the "stealth buses" that
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> lane road. Seen a few semi's in the ditch that failed in making the
> U-turn or just pulled completely off the road after giving up.

Heh.  You know those freeway median cross-overs that only emergency
vehicles are suppose to use?  I once saw a privately owned greyhound-
style bus whose driver figured he was too good for the rules.  I don't
know HOW he thought he was going to accelerate quickly enough when he
got turned around.  It didn't make any difference though, since
because of the dip in the crossover he ended up resting on both
bumpers and the wheels all off the ground.  Bet he had fun with the
tow trucks and the tickets....
Brent P - 04 Apr 2007 02:37 GMT
> http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2007/042007/04032007/272626

> They prosecute the survivor, as is customary in Virginia.  This guy gets a
> month in jail 'cuz he didn't back off, and wasn't mindreader enough to possibly
> imagine that the chick was a suicidal mental case and wouldn't see the error of
> her ways at the last moment and back off as she should have done.

> Just don't be present when _anything_ on the road happens in Virginia.

Most anyplace else in the US as well, although maybe less common. He should
have kept driving under the 'no contact' rule that ever mr and mrs magoo
out there on the roads get by with.

> Boy, I'll be glad to retire and leave this state.  There's no senses of right
> and wrong here, only retribution.

'just let them do it'. He didn't let her be a MFFY arsehole so he's in
the wrong. It's the same upside down crap that I and others bring up from
time to time.
Dave Head - 04 Apr 2007 03:53 GMT
>> http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2007/042007/04032007/272626
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Most anyplace else in the US as well, although maybe less common.

Definitely less common - generally, other places I've lived, they actually seem
to want the person that they put in jail to have actually done something wrong
first, which it does not appear that this guy did.  There's no _proof_ that he
was racing her, only that she was trying to beat him.  There's no _proof_ that
he knew that she was about to do what she did, and that his _failing_ to slow
down would result in an accident - nobody expects that a car in the other lane
is going to be so insane as to change lanes without the required room, so he
had no reason to believe that there was anything dangerous about to happen.

IOW, I would probably acted the same way he did, if he indeed was not racing
her as he says he was not.

>He should
>have kept driving under the 'no contact' rule that ever mr and mrs magoo
>out there on the roads get by with.

Well, _he_ didn't contact _her_, _she_ contacted _him_.  She steered her car
into his lane in spite of him being beside her.

>> Boy, I'll be glad to retire and leave this state.  There's no senses of right
>> and wrong here, only retribution.
>
>'just let them do it'. He didn't let her be a MFFY arsehole so he's in
>the wrong.

No he's not.

>It's the same upside down crap that I and others bring up from
>time to time.

Its a crock, fer sure.

Dave Head
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 04 Apr 2007 02:44 GMT
> Here's the latest nonsense from the state of Virginia:
>
> http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2007/042007/04032007/272626
>
> Guy is in the inside lane of 2 lanes in the same direction,

You lost me right there you moron. Inside lane?  That phrase only means
something on a turn. Say right lane or left lane.
Dave Head - 04 Apr 2007 03:49 GMT
>> Here's the latest nonsense from the state of Virginia:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>You lost me right there you moron. Inside lane?  That phrase only means
>something on a turn. Say right lane or left lane.

It wouldn't do any good to tell you it was a left turn 'cuz you're so around
the bend anyway that you'd simply want to put _any_ survivors in jail, no
matter what, just like the rest of the state of Virginia...

DPH
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 04 Apr 2007 03:53 GMT
>>> Here's the latest nonsense from the state of Virginia:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> DPH

HAHAHA.  Glad i ruined your day. HAHAHA
Nate Nagel - 05 Apr 2007 23:46 GMT
>>>> Here's the latest nonsense from the state of Virginia:
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> HAHAHA.  Glad i ruined your day. HAHAHA

you're not smart, witty, or coherent enough to ruin anyone's day.  But
thanks for playing.

nate

(not really.  Don't go away mad, just go away.)

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Drunken Driver - 06 Apr 2007 01:22 GMT
>>>> Here's the latest nonsense from the state of Virginia:
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>HAHAHA.  Glad i ruined your day. HAHAHA

ROTFLMAO. How in the world could a retard like you ruin anyone's day?

Except, of course, for your mother's? We know you couldn't ruin your
father's, since he left the scene within moments of your conception.
:-D

I have missed the entertainment your dumb a.s has provided.

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necromancer - 04 Apr 2007 23:19 GMT
Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Speeders & Drunk
Drivers are MURDERERS said in rec.autos.driving:
> > Here's the latest nonsense from the state of Virginia:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> You lost me right there you moron. Inside lane?

It means the lane that is not on the outside of the road. Learn English
or Gin Tequila Firewater out of here.

>  That phrase only means
> something on a turn. Say right lane or left lane.

Why? He communicated it to me just fine.

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Drunken Driver - 06 Apr 2007 01:32 GMT
>> Here's the latest nonsense from the state of Virginia:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>You lost me right there you moron. Inside lane?  That phrase only means

Lost you? Like that's difficult to do? ROTFLMAO.

>something on a turn. Say right lane or left lane.

Perhaps if you used a real dictionary, that perfectly obvious
statement would make sense to you. No wonder you can't understand it.
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Fred G. Mackey - 04 Apr 2007 07:57 GMT
> Here's the latest nonsense from the state of Virginia:
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Boy, I'll be glad to retire and leave this state.  There's no senses of right
> and wrong here, only retribution.

Insanity - She clearly earned her Darwin award.

> Dave Head
gpsman - 05 Apr 2007 22:12 GMT
On Apr 3, 3:47 pm, Dave Head <rally...@att.net> wrote: <brevity snip>
> Here's the latest nonsense from the state of Virginia:
>
> http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2007/042007/04032007/272626

> Suicidal crazy chick races the guy from her position in the outside lane,
> doesn't have enough room, cuts him off anyway, causes an accident, and is
> killed.

So... when you see a suicidal crazy chick driving like an idiot you'd
better yield her the f.cking ROW.  HE didn't know if she was rushing
her baby to the hospital.

> This guy gets a
> month in jail 'cuz he didn't back off, and wasn't mindreader enough to possibly
> imagine that the chick was a suicidal mental case and wouldn't see the error of
> her ways at the last moment and back off as she should have done.

Contributory negligence.  Remember that phrase, you might be reading
it again somewhere, some time in the future.

If there wasn't enough room for her to merge to his front it was
because HE didn't leave that room, and was likely aggressively
protecting what wasn't his to begin with.   If you're traveling in
traffic and there's not enough room to merge to your front, you're
following too close.  Two seconds to your front is "your" following
distance, but only if and until another driver takes it.  Then, you
have to build your 2 seconds back in.  Repeat, ad infinitum.

Sure, she shouldn't have been driving as she was, probably, but that
is no excuse for his driving as he did.  You can't drive like an idiot
just because somebody else is, then later place all responsibility
with them.  That rationale is moot in kindergarten.

Why don't you look up this idiot's number and ask if he feels if
protecting his ROW was worth it

> Just don't be present when _anything_ on the road happens in Virginia.  2 other
> cars wreck and everybody is killed, and you see it, you'll get charged with
> _something_ - the modus operendi here is, "Something bad happened, so
> _somebody_ has to go to jail".

Yeah, it's all a f.cking conspiracy to hold innocent parties
responsible, there's so much money and political advantage in that
industry.  The moron is lucky nobody else was killed or injured.

> Boy, I'll be glad to retire and leave this state.  There's no senses of right
> and wrong here, only retribution.

So... retribution must be "right", then... right...?
-----

- gpsman
Nate Nagel - 05 Apr 2007 23:44 GMT
> On Apr 3, 3:47 pm, Dave Head <rally...@att.net> wrote: <brevity snip>
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> better yield her the f.cking ROW.  HE didn't know if she was rushing
> her baby to the hospital.

She DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY.  If you yield ROW to every a-hole on
the road that tries to cut you off, you end up driving pretty damn slow.
 As in not moving.

>>This guy gets a
>>month in jail 'cuz he didn't back off, and wasn't mindreader enough to possibly
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> because HE didn't leave that room, and was likely aggressively
> protecting what wasn't his to begin with.  

Um...  if you are in a through lane, YOU have the right of way, and if
there is not enough space in front of you for another car to safely
merge, well, TFB for the merger.  Unless the "crazy chick" had already
positioned herself in front of him before the merge point (which the
article clearly states is not the case,) I find it hard to sympathize
with her.

> If you're traveling in
> traffic and there's not enough room to merge to your front, you're
> following too close.  Two seconds to your front is "your" following
> distance, but only if and until another driver takes it.  Then, you
> have to build your 2 seconds back in.  Repeat, ad infinitum.

Huh?  It's perfectly possible for you to be following another driver at
a distance which is safe for you to stop but not safe to allow another
driver in.

> Sure, she shouldn't have been driving as she was, probably, but that
> is no excuse for his driving as he did.  You can't drive like an idiot
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Why don't you look up this idiot's number and ask if he feels if
> protecting his ROW was worth it

Who says he was "protecting?"  Maybe he was just driving along expecting
the other driver to fall in behind, as the law requires.  Most people
*do* give in to people who drive like bullies, while not expecting
someone to cut you off may be poor driving practice, a little
inattention is not outside the realm of possibility.

>>Just don't be present when _anything_ on the road happens in Virginia.  2 other
>>cars wreck and everybody is killed, and you see it, you'll get charged with
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> responsible, there's so much money and political advantage in that
> industry.  The moron is lucky nobody else was killed or injured.

Yeah, it's a f.cking conspiracy for blame not being given where blame is
deserved.  The woman was at fault, and solely at fault.  If not for her
illegal, unsafe, negligent driving, this incident would not have
happened.  I have had it up about as high as it can get with people just
like her that I interact with on a daily basis that think that their
little selves are so much more important than everyone else that it
gives them the right to BREAK THE GODDAMNED LAW and push their way in
front of everyone.

>>Boy, I'll be glad to retire and leave this state.  There's no senses of right
>>and wrong here, only retribution.
>
> So... retribution must be "right", then... right...?

In your world, apparently, there's no right and wrong, only dumb and dumber.

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Drunken Driver - 06 Apr 2007 01:32 GMT
>On Apr 3, 3:47 pm, Dave Head <rally...@att.net> wrote: <brevity snip>
>> Here's the latest nonsense from the state of Virginia:
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>better yield her the f.cking ROW.  HE didn't know if she was rushing
>her baby to the hospital.

Common sense (yes, I realize this is an attribute you don't possess)
would dictate that if you were rushing your baby to the hospital, you
would do two things differently:

1: Drive with your hazard indicators active.

2: Don't "pace" a vehicle beside you.

Sorry the trivial is beyond your grasp, moron.

>> This guy gets a
>> month in jail 'cuz he didn't back off, and wasn't mindreader enough to possibly
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>Contributory negligence.  Remember that phrase, you might be reading
>it again somewhere, some time in the future.

Ah, well, dude gets out in a month.

Retarded bitch never gets out. At least the punishment fit her crime.
She had the added benefit of taking out three other branches in her
defective family tree; even better!

>If there wasn't enough room for her to merge to his front it was
>because HE didn't leave that room, and was likely aggressively
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>distance, but only if and until another driver takes it.  Then, you
>have to build your 2 seconds back in.  Repeat, ad infinitum.

BFS, moron. I see plenty of activity like this in my stretch of the
woods. People have AMPLE opportunity to merge properly, but say FYMF,
wait until the merge point, then try to force their way in. I don't
give in to 'em; they had plenty of opportunities to observe the merge
points from a reasonable distance away, and wait until the last minute
to adjust. Intelligence would dictate merging ASAP to avoid getting
"hung out to dry", or run off the road. Fortunately stupid drivers
tend to die fairly frequently, say, at a rate of over 3,000 a month in
the USA. In this case, she managed to prove that survival of the
fittest is alive and well.

>Sure, she shouldn't have been driving as she was, probably, but that
>is no excuse for his driving as he did.  You can't drive like an idiot
>just because somebody else is, then later place all responsibility
>with them.  That rationale is moot in kindergarten.

Spurious conclusion. Where you there to witness the event?

>Why don't you look up this idiot's number and ask if he feels if
>protecting his ROW was worth it

Why not? He only had to shell out some time and a small amount of
change, and he did the country's population a favor.

>> Just don't be present when _anything_ on the road happens in Virginia.  2 other
>> cars wreck and everybody is killed, and you see it, you'll get charged with
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>responsible, there's so much money and political advantage in that
>industry.  The moron is lucky nobody else was killed or injured.

I disagree; I believe the survivor did the state's residents a favor.

>> Boy, I'll be glad to retire and leave this state.  There's no senses of right
>> and wrong here, only retribution.
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>
>- gpsman

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Matthew T. Russotto - 06 Apr 2007 03:39 GMT
>On Apr 3, 3:47 pm, Dave Head <rally...@att.net> wrote: <brevity snip>
>> Here's the latest nonsense from the state of Virginia:
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>So... when you see a suicidal crazy chick driving like an idiot you'd
>better yield her the f.cking ROW.

That sort of thinking just leads to people deliberately driving like a
nutcase to get others to yield.

>> This guy gets a
>> month in jail 'cuz he didn't back off, and wasn't mindreader enough to possibly
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>Contributory negligence.  Remember that phrase, you might be reading
>it again somewhere, some time in the future.

The phrase "contributory negligence" doesn't mean what you seem to
think it means..

>following too close.  Two seconds to your front is "your" following
>distance, but only if and until another driver takes it.  Then, you
>have to build your 2 seconds back in.  Repeat, ad infinitum.

Sure.  If I'm stupid.  If I'm not, I'm going to reduce my following
distance to the point where other cars aren't constantly moving in
front of me.  If someone wants to move in with their rear bumper a few
feet from my front, I'll assume that's all the following distance they
need.
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Drunken Driver - 06 Apr 2007 04:04 GMT
>>Contributory negligence.  Remember that phrase, you might be reading
>>it again somewhere, some time in the future.
>
>The phrase "contributory negligence" doesn't mean what you seem to
>think it means..

No surprise; gpstard doesn't know the difference between monosyllabic
words such as "time" and "chance", so "complicated" phrases like
"contributory negligence" are going to be *WAY* above his intelligence
range.

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Brent P - 06 Apr 2007 04:11 GMT
>  If someone wants to move in with their rear bumper a few
> feet from my front, I'll assume that's all the following distance they
> need.

I've had more than one driver cut me off like that, then become angry
because I was too close to him or her. WTF? they put themselves there, I
certainly didn't ask them to be there.
 
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