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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / May 2007STOP GUN MASSACRES - Ban gun ownership for those with sociopathic tendencies
Start with the MILLIONS of convicted drunk drivers. By driving drunk they have announced to the world "Hell with all of you - I don't care if i kill you or your kids". Likewise with extreme speeders. Not someone who did 70 in a 60. But anyone convicted of doing 30+ over the speed limit has proven himself a sociopath with no concern for others. Guns are for law-abiding citizens, not violent criminal sociopaths.!! >Guns are for law-abiding citizens, not violent criminal sociopaths.!! So you agree then? Americans should not be allowed to own firearms. >> Guns are for law-abiding citizens, not violent criminal sociopaths.!! > > So you agree then? Americans should not be allowed to own firearms. Not everybody, but maybe half. >Start with the MILLIONS of convicted drunk drivers. By driving drunk >they have announced to the world "Hell with all of you - I don't care >if i kill you or your kids". Likewise with extreme speeders. Not >someone who did 70 in a 60. But anyone convicted of doing 30+ over the >speed limit has proven himself a sociopath with no concern for others. What scientific experiment did you conduct to arrive at the figure 30+? I assume you have the data from the experiments, as well as an independent source to validate the credibility of your study? >Guns are for law-abiding citizens, not violent criminal sociopaths.!! Which is why felons aren't allowed to own guns. Next question, loser? -- Ask me about drunk driving for fun and profit! A nice .CMD for the group's spammers, for the broadband based regulars (requires wget): :loop @wget -m http://fat-pussy.aileenkeith.com/ @rd /s /q fat-pussy.aileenkeith.com goto loop > What scientific experiment did you conduct to arrive at the figure > 30+? I assume you have the data from the experiments, as well as an > independent source to validate the credibility of your study? The experiment when out local nutjob admitted to going 41 in a 25. So OBVIOUSLY 16 over isn't "EXTREME" speeding! >> What scientific experiment did you conduct to arrive at the figure >> 30+? I assume you have the data from the experiments, as well as an >> independent source to validate the credibility of your study? > >The experiment when out local nutjob admitted to going 41 in a 25. So >OBVIOUSLY 16 over isn't "EXTREME" speeding! How stupid of me to forget; thanks for setting me straight! :-) -- Ask me about drunk driving for fun and profit! A nice .CMD for the group's spammers, for the broadband based regulars (requires wget): :loop @wget -m http://fat-pussy.aileenkeith.com/ @rd /s /q fat-pussy.aileenkeith.com goto loop > >Start with the MILLIONS of convicted drunk drivers. By driving drunk > >they have announced to the world "Hell with all of you - I don't care [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Next question, loser? So how come your Virginian gunman was allowed two guns. >> >Start with the MILLIONS of convicted drunk drivers. By driving drunk >> >they have announced to the world "Hell with all of you - I don't care [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >So how come your Virginian gunman was allowed two guns. Had he committed a felony? -- Ask me about drunk driving for fun and profit! A nice .CMD for the group's spammers, for the broadband based regulars (requires wget): :loop @wget -m http://fat-pussy.aileenkeith.com/ @rd /s /q fat-pussy.aileenkeith.com goto loop > >> >Start with the MILLIONS of convicted drunk drivers. By driving drunk > >> >they have announced to the world "Hell with all of you - I don't care [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Had he committed a felony? Do you notice a small flaw in your legislation? 32 others did. Regards, Greg.P. >> Guns are for law-abiding citizens, not violent criminal sociopaths.!! > > Which is why felons aren't allowed to own guns. And it should be extended to include anyone with a DUI conviction. >>> Guns are for law-abiding citizens, not violent criminal sociopaths.!! >> >> Which is why felons aren't allowed to own guns. > >And it should be extended to include anyone with a DUI conviction. Take that to your representatives. Perhaps if you weren't a felon, and were able to vote, your representatives might listen to your tantrums. Ah well, sucks to be you! -- Ask me about drunk driving for fun and profit! A nice .CMD for the group's spammers, for the broadband based regulars (requires wget): :loop @wget -m http://fat-pussy.aileenkeith.com/ @rd /s /q fat-pussy.aileenkeith.com goto loop >>Start with the MILLIONS of convicted drunk drivers. By driving drunk >>they have announced to the world "Hell with all of you - I don't care [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Which is why felons aren't allowed to own guns. But it is very easy for a felon to acquire a gun legal or otherwise because there are so many of them (guns) circulating in US society. If guns were banned then Cho may have wanted to kill 31 of his classmates but the chances are he would not have been able to acquire a gun to do so. More guns means more gun crime. >>> Start with the MILLIONS of convicted drunk drivers. By driving drunk >>> they have announced to the world "Hell with all of you - I don't care [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > More guns means more gun crime. Guns are very easy to manufacture with common tools and materials. It isn't possible to "ban" them. Someone will still make them for the "underground" gun traders. >>>> Start with the MILLIONS of convicted drunk drivers. By driving drunk >>>> they have announced to the world "Hell with all of you - I don't care [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >isn't possible to "ban" them. Someone will still make them for the >"underground" gun traders. LOL, that's got to be one of the lamest justifications for gun ownership yet. Give that boy a brain someone. >LOL, that's got to be one of the lamest justifications for gun >ownership yet. Give that boy a brain someone. LMAO. You think making guns illegal is going to make the problem go away, and you think someone else needs a brain? Still trying to figure out how the voting ballets work in Floriduh? -- Ask me about drunk driving for fun and profit! A nice .CMD for the group's spammers, for the broadband based regulars (requires wget): :loop @wget -m http://fat-pussy.aileenkeith.com/ @rd /s /q fat-pussy.aileenkeith.com goto loop >>LOL, that's got to be one of the lamest justifications for gun >>ownership yet. Give that boy a brain someone. > >LMAO. You think making guns illegal is going to make the problem go >away, and you think someone else needs a brain? You don't care that 32 young American students got slaughtered by some jerk because he could buy his guns legally? If guns had been illegal maybe he wouldn't have been able to purchase one so easily and those 32 young students might still be alive today. Or what about the NASA arsehole today who shot his hostage and himself? How many more innocent people have to die in the US before you gunloons grow some balls and stop hiding behind your guns all the time. Just what are so terrified of? While eating his plate of Spotted Dick, Assthrobby <another.nym- monkey@bogus.girl.com> bowed toward Mecca and squealed: >>>LOL, that's got to be one of the lamest justifications for gun >>>ownership yet. Give that boy a brain someone. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > some jerk because he could buy his guns legally? If guns had been > illegal maybe he wouldn't have been able to purchase one so easily ...and would have gotten it another way. I mean, look at yourself, Assthrobby. No one in their right mind should grant a dedicated wuss like you internet access, yet you've managed to scrounge it somehow.  Signature"And idiots begat fools, and fools begat morons, and morons begat imbeciles, and imbeciles begat dufuses. And then Yurpeons realized they could do this with people outside their immediate families..." Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), in a sure sign that the Apocalypse is upon us, someone calling themself Anthropy said this in rec.autos.driving: > You don't care that 32 young American students got slaughtered by > some jerk because he could buy his guns legally? If guns had been > illegal maybe he wouldn't have been able to purchase one so easily and > those 32 young students might still be alive today. And just how many of us would be slaughtered by government if guns were illegal? What's the first thing tyrants do these days before they enslave the citizens of their country: confiscate the guns. Gee, I wonder why.... > Or what about the NASA arsehole today who shot his hostage and himself? And how many layers of security did he sneak that gun through to get it into an area where guns were prohibited?? A lot of good that gun bans do to keep the guns from where they are not supposed to be. > How many more innocent people have to die in the US before you > gunloons grow some balls and stop hiding behind your guns all the > time. More people than than the 32 at VT are killed every day on US roads. I suppose next that you will be wanting to take our cars... > Just what are so terrified of? Outsiders like you wanting to impose your will on us, that's what. BTW, why do you care one way or the other *what* we do to each other?? SignatureF ools & B umbling I diots >And just how many of us would be slaughtered by government if guns were >illegal? What's the first thing tyrants do these days before they >enslave the citizens of their country: confiscate the guns. Gee, I >wonder why.... The people at Waco were heavily armed. Look what happened to them when they tried to go up against the government. There is no weapon citizens can buy today that can protect them against a modern government and it's military resources. On the other hand, one of the greatest tyrannies in human history fell with barely a shot being fired. Anyone remember the Soviet Union and the Iron Curtain? Poland won it's freedom without guns. Ironically most of the violence came after these countries won their freedom and had the freedom to kill each other. Yugoslavia became a nightmare after those people won their freedom, much like Iraq today. Btw our government, both local and federal, have had us economically enslaved for years now. Taxes, fee's, permits, licenses for just about everything imaginable. These things used to have a legitimate purposes but now many of them just seem like ways for the government to put guns to our heads and make us pay up. You have to be homeless on the streets to be free of all this and have true freedom in this country. True freedom is a distant memory in this country just like it is in every other country in the world. We are just enslaved a little less here, but that's changing quickly :( ------------------------------------------------- Instead of wasting your free time on the Internet. Make a little free cash while your at it. http://www.topgetpaid.com/ >>And just how many of us would be slaughtered by government if guns were >>illegal? What's the first thing tyrants do these days before they >>enslave the citizens of their country: confiscate the guns. Gee, I >>wonder why.... > > The people at Waco were heavily armed. Not really.They had some guns,yes. "heavily" armed,no. No illegal machine guns like was alleged. No reason for BATF-troop to go in shooting,over a tax question. No meth operation,either.(not BATF-troop's jurisdiction,either) > Look what happened to them when > they tried to go up against the government. With no outside support. If others had attacked the Feds from the outside,it would have been different. > There is no weapon > citizens can buy today that can protect them against a modern > government and it's military resources. On the other hand, one of the > greatest tyrannies in human history fell with barely a shot being > fired. Anyone remember the Soviet Union and the Iron Curtain? Poland > won it's freedom without guns. The United States won their freedom,by staying strong,thanks to Reagan. The Polish just waited the USSR out. Since you mentioned Poland,the underfed Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto kept the German Army at bay for an entire month with only a few guns. The Nazis had to BURN them out.(like Waco) > Ironically most of the violence came > after these countries won their freedom and had the freedom to kill > each other. Yugoslavia became a nightmare after those people won their > freedom, much like Iraq today. Oh,now it's better that they live under tyrants? > Btw our government, both local and federal, have had us economically > enslaved for years now. Taxes, fee's, permits, licenses for just about > everything imaginable. These things used to have a legitimate purposes > but now many of them just seem like ways for the government to put > guns to our heads and make us pay up. That's because people keep voting for socialists. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), in a sure sign > that the Apocalypse is upon us, someone calling themself Anthropy said [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > enslave the citizens of their country: confiscate the guns. Gee, I > wonder why.... You're expecting your elected government to enslave you any moment? You aren't very good at picking representatives, are you??? > > Or what about the NASA arsehole today who shot his hostage and himself? > > And how many layers of security did he sneak that gun through to get it > into an area where guns were prohibited?? Zero. > A lot of good that gun bans do > to keep the guns from where they are not supposed to be. Such bans need to be enforced to be effective. You manage to enforce them on commercial aircraft - perhaps your government can enslave you planeload by planeload. > > How many more innocent people have to die in the US before you > > gunloons grow some balls and stop hiding behind your guns all the > > time. > > More people than than the 32 at VT are killed every day on US roads. I > suppose next that you will be wanting to take our cars... Perhaps taking those where the driver deliberately tries to kill pedestrians might be a good idea - otherwise you're going to end up like Sarah and spend all your time in your cars. > > Just what are so terrified of? > > Outsiders like you wanting to impose your will on us, that's what. Isn't threatening someone with a gun "imposing your will" on them? > BTW, > why do you care one way or the other *what* we do to each other?? We like to hear about you killing each other! Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), in a sure sign that the Apocalypse is upon us, someone calling themself Greg Procter said this in rec.autos.driving: << snip >> > You're expecting your elected government to enslave you any moment? You > aren't very good at picking representatives, are you??? ROTFLMAO!! You think those idiots represent us? The only time they give a damn about us is at election time. Excuse me, I have to step away and laugh some more. > > > Or what about the NASA arsehole today who shot his hostage and himself? > > > > And how many layers of security did he sneak that gun through to get it > > into an area where guns were prohibited?? > > Zero. You don't know much about NASA, do you? <<snip>> > Perhaps taking those where the driver deliberately tries to kill > pedestrians might be a good idea - otherwise you're going to end up like > Sarah and spend all your time in your cars. Perhaps something that resembles driver training and testing would do the trick, but that's not likely to happen here. Too many unlicensed drivers = fewer people to work and pay taxes. > > > Just what are so terrified of? > > > > Outsiders like you wanting to impose your will on us, that's what. > > Isn't threatening someone with a gun "imposing your will" on them? Not when you have a gun also and can shoot back. Had there been some armed students at VT, that guy's shooting spree would not have been so severe. > > BTW, > > why do you care one way or the other *what* we do to each other?? > > We like to hear about you killing each other! Glad we can provide the entertainment..... Signaturenecromancer Deadly Speeder. And PROUD of it, Man!!! > Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), in a sure sign > that the Apocalypse is upon us, someone calling themself Greg Procter [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > a damn about us is at election time. Excuse me, I have to step away and > laugh some more. Have you ever thought about replacing your form of government with a representative democracy? > > > > Or what about the NASA arsehole today who shot his hostage and himself? > > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > You don't know much about NASA, do you? Hmmm, not really, but they let me on board their Galaxy flying telescope and their U2 without checking me for weapons. > <<snip>> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the trick, but that's not likely to happen here. Too many unlicensed > drivers = fewer people to work and pay taxes. Well, if you're going to put tax collection before shooting victims ... BTW, you're supposed to be defending and I'm supposed to pick the holes in your system. > > > > Just what are so terrified of? > > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Not when you have a gun also and can shoot back. I'm not totally convinced: - the bod with the gun is already pointing it at me while I shuffle all the books in my satchel to find my gun, and then he has all that time while I'm slipping off the safety catch and aiming to shoot me - also I'm probably not that good a shot that I would hit him and not my classmates. (glad I wasn't there) > Had there been some > armed students at VT, that guy's shooting spree would not have been so > severe. Sure, but 600 would have died in the croissfire! > > > BTW, > > > why do you care one way or the other *what* we do to each other?? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Deadly Speeder. And PROUD of it, Man!!! Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), in a sure sign that the Apocalypse is upon us, someone calling themself Greg Procter said this in rec.autos.driving: > > ROTFLMAO!! You think those idiots represent us? The only time they give > > a damn about us is at election time. Excuse me, I have to step away and > > laugh some more. > > Have you ever thought about replacing your form of government with a > representative democracy? <hysterical laughing> A "representative democracy," here on planet Earth?? Surely you jest!!! </hysterical laughing> > > Had there been some > > armed students at VT, that guy's shooting spree would not have been so > > severe. > > Sure, but 600 would have died in the croissfire! Actually, I don't think that anyone would die in the "croissfire." <pure speculation> However, while a person or two may accidentally be killed in the crossfire from a shoot out, that's better than the 32 who were offed. </pure speculation> Signaturenecromancer Criminal Coddler. And Proud of it, Man!! > Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), in a sure sign > that the Apocalypse is upon us, someone calling themself Greg Procter [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > </hysterical laughing> Don't judge anyone or anything by the USA, that's not on our planet. > > > Had there been some > > > armed students at VT, that guy's shooting spree would not have been so [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > </pure speculation> Wouldn't it be better if no-one was offed? Yeah yeah, they were yanks, so 600 would have been a better score. > You don't care that 32 young American students got slaughtered by > some jerk because he could buy his guns legally? If guns had been [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > gunloons grow some balls and stop hiding behind your guns all the > time. Just what are so terrified of? OTOH, 110 americans are killed on our highways every single DAY and you don't give a damn about that, do you.? We could make the incredible highway carnage nearly vanish overnight if we stopped coddling speeders and drunk drivers with fines and instead gave them the jail time they deserve. But you say - "nah - i like crazy driving myself, so hell with it." >>> LOL, that's got to be one of the lamest justifications for gun >>> ownership yet. Give that boy a brain someone. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > gunloons grow some balls and stop hiding behind your guns all the > time. Just what are so terrified of? It's called contraband. (goods or merchandise whose manufacture, importation, exportation, or possession is forbidden; smuggled) Do some history research. Our government has banned things in it's past. (Prohibition comes to mind) It didn't work. The banned item was always obtainable by illegal means by those so inclined to acquire it. (Illegal drugs represents a current example). Some could argue that had one or two students had a concealed weapons permit (and were carrying their weapon), the fight would have been more fair. > Do some history research. Our government has banned things in it's > past. (Prohibition comes to mind) It didn't work. The banned item was > always obtainable by illegal means by those so inclined to acquire it. > (Illegal drugs represents a current example). Nevertheless some bans do work. You don't see people buying hand grenades on the streets though i'm sure a lot of crazies would love to have them. >> Do some history research. Our government has banned things in it's >> past. (Prohibition comes to mind) It didn't work. The banned item [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > grenades on the streets though i'm sure a lot of crazies would love to > have them. They do. They're called pipe bombs and vest bombs. And for those that want more impact, they're called truck bombs (i.e. Oklahoma City). All easily made with common/available materials. >>>LOL, that's got to be one of the lamest justifications for gun >>>ownership yet. Give that boy a brain someone. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >You don't care that 32 young American students got slaughtered by >some jerk because he could buy his guns legally? They didn't. They got slaughtered because the VT board voted to prohibit personal carry of weapon permit holders to carry their defensive weapons onto campus, thus creating a defenseless victim zone where such a nut could kill people without them having a chance of shooting back. If you don't believe this is significant, then show me a case where a nut-job such as this has killed 32 people by shooting up a police station, a bar where cops hang out, a hunting camp, or any other place where guns haven't been prohibited. You can't. All these mass killings - Luby's Cafeteria, Littleton, Long Island Railroad, the Amish school, etc. have been defenseless victim zones where defensive carry of weapon was prohibited. >If guns had been >illegal maybe he wouldn't have been able to purchase one so easily and >those 32 young students might still be alive today. No, he'd likely have chained the doors shut, knocked over maybe 50 gallons of prepositioned gasoline into the halls (at Littleton, the perpetrators had pre-positioned _many_ bombs) lit it, and burned the entire building to the ground with everyone in it. >Or what about the >NASA arsehole today who shot his hostage and himself? >How many more innocent people have to die in the US before you >gunloons grow some balls and stop hiding behind your guns all the >time. Just what are so terrified of? Criminals, including rogue governmental criminals as well as the common variety. Dave Head >>If guns had been >>illegal maybe he wouldn't have been able to purchase one so easily and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > pre-positioned _many_ bombs) lit it, and burned the entire building to the > ground with everyone in it. The worst school masacare in the USA occured in the 1920s. 45 dead, mostly children. The school building was blown up using dynamite. >>>If guns had been >>>illegal maybe he wouldn't have been able to purchase one so easily and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >The worst school masacare in the USA occured in the 1920s. 45 dead, >mostly children. The school building was blown up using dynamite. Yep - U _don't_ need a gun for this sort of terrorism, but everyone wants to wig-out that we have too much freedom in this country. Dave Head >>>>If guns had been >>>>illegal maybe he wouldn't have been able to purchase one so easily and [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Yep - U _don't_ need a gun for this sort of terrorism, but everyone wants to > wig-out that we have too much freedom in this country. And nobody would stage, provoke, run, or exagerate an event to cause terror and reduce the amount of freedom.... I mean to believe that those who benefit from the tighting of control over the people wouldn't make these events happen is just the realm of loonies, right? > >>>>If guns had been > >>>>illegal maybe he wouldn't have been able to purchase one so easily and [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > those who benefit from the tighting of control over the people wouldn't > make these events happen is just the realm of loonies, right? Well, that'd be a conspiracy theory, and a fairly far-fetched one at that. Its probably only a couple rungs down the ladder from the one that says that GWB staged 9/11, which is an obvious crock. I just no longer entertain conspiracy theories. I need conspiracy proofs. For every legitimate conspiracy, there are about a million other baseless theories for everything under the sun. Just can't be bothered to worry about 'em. Dave Head >> >>>>If guns had been >> >>>>illegal maybe he wouldn't have been able to purchase one so easily and [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> > Yep - U _don't_ need a gun for this sort of terrorism, but everyone wants to >> > wig-out that we have too much freedom in this country. >> And nobody would stage, provoke, run, or exagerate an event to cause >> terror and reduce the amount of freedom.... I mean to believe that >> those who benefit from the tighting of control over the people wouldn't >> make these events happen is just the realm of loonies, right? > Well, that'd be a conspiracy theory, and a fairly far-fetched one at > that. Its probably only a couple rungs down the ladder from the one > that says that GWB staged 9/11, which is an obvious crock. GWB is a trained monkey, a front man, he didn't do a thing. Anyway I was speaking in general. But the more I learn of admitted and caught red handed actions, the less far fetched it becomes. > I just no longer entertain conspiracy theories. I need conspiracy > proofs. For every legitimate conspiracy, there are about a million > other baseless theories for everything under the sun. Just can't be > bothered to worry about 'em. All I know is that what we get as offical stories is usually a lie and government and others are always quick to use events to their advantage. I am already hearing over and over again how this highway collaspe in Oakland is proof of the government story of the WTC 1,2, and 7 failures. Geebus... they are totally different kinds of structures, they aren't comparable in any sense. >>> >>>>If guns had been >>> >>>>illegal maybe he wouldn't have been able to purchase one so easily and [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >Geebus... they are totally different kinds of structures, they aren't >comparable in any sense. The "inside job" conspiracy theory of the 9/11 events is my pet candidate for nutty theory of the millenium. To think that the government could approach just the right people, out of a very small pool of capable explosives demolition experts, and get them into such a conspiracy to collapse these buildings while they also got some suicidal middle easterners who were not really terrorists to die on 4 different airplanes just to perpetrate a huge terrorism hoax is sooooooo looney it is just beyond bizarre. It didn't happen, period. End of story. The odds for pulling such a thing off are just so astronomical, I'd rather believe in space aliens doing it. Its just nuts, nuts, nuts. Dave Head You have all the rights that you're willing to fight for. > The "inside job" conspiracy theory of the 9/11 events is my pet candidate for > nutty theory of the millenium. There is far too much to blame incompetence. > To think that the government could approach > just the right people, out of a very small pool of capable explosives > demolition experts, and get them into such a conspiracy to collapse these > buildings As if there aren't any demolitions experts in the military or intelligence agencies... And it wasn't perfect, didn't need to be. WTC 7's failure is a complete anomoly and was left out of the commission report. It only suffered light damage and had small fires. 3,4,5,6 were pummeled and some burned as ranging infernos, yet all were standing at the end of the day. Take a look at the book "Aftermath" in the photography section of your local bookstore. Who knows, maybe the building had a self-destruct in it given it was full of CIA spooks :) > while they also got some suicidal middle easterners who were not > really terrorists to die on 4 different airplanes just to perpetrate a huge > terrorism hoax is sooooooo looney it is just beyond bizarre. Just because the government says the middle easterners took over the planes and flew them into the buildings doesn't make it so. remember, the black boxes were not recovered. The government released it's story the day of and stuck to it. News releases that WTC7 were read over the air before the building actually did. I know the government is bullshiting us, the only question is to what extent? > It didn't happen, > period. End of story. The odds for pulling such a thing off are just so > astronomical, I'd rather believe in space aliens doing it. Its just nuts, > nuts, nuts. Because the people that carried out operations (some which could be described as terrorist) in foreign nations to their benefit would never carry them out here at home to their benefit.... >>In article <1177950590.370923.218610@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, >>Dave Head wrote: [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > pool of capable explosives demolition experts, and get them into such > a conspiracy to collapse these buildings while while nobody noticed them placing explosives in a humongous busy building,and nobody in the conspiracy leaking details or getting second thoughts...... > they also got some > suicidal middle easterners who were not really terrorists to die on 4 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > astronomical, I'd rather believe in space aliens doing it. Its just > nuts, nuts, nuts. Well,that's who believes this sort of crap;NUTS,psychos. > Dave Head > > You have all the rights that you're willing to fight for. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > while nobody noticed them placing explosives in a humongous busy > building,and nobody in the conspiracy leaking details or getting second > thoughts...... Actually there have been witness reports of odd goings on. So to say that actions go un-noticed is entirely wrong. They are noticed, widely reported is another thing entirely. Are they indications of sinster acts? maybe, maybe not. But to say out of hand that nobody noticed anything is flatly wrong. The specific odd goings on I've read reports of were unusal evacuation drills and power shutdowns in the weeks before the attack. Also strange men doing some sort maintaince work in the building during odd hours doing 're-cabling'. If you are interested google "Scott Forbes" and "Ben Fountain" along with "WTC" and it should pull up something for you. One was in people, the other an interview somewhere. Then again, there's what George W. Bush said: "For example, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed described the design of planned attacks of buildings inside the U.S. and how operatives were directed to carry them out. <...> That is valuable information for those of us who have the responsibility to protect the American people. He told us the operatives had been instructed to ensure that the explosives went off at a high -- a point that was high enough to prevent people trapped above from escaping." -President George W. Bush go figure.. >>>In article <1177950590.370923.218610@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, >>>Dave Head wrote: [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >building,and nobody in the conspiracy leaking details or getting second >thoughts...... Yeah, like you can find 50 or so real human monsters that are all OK with killing thousands of people without breathing a word to anyone about it to go wire up those buildings explosives. Yeah, right... tell me about the little green men doing it - more believable. >> they also got some >> suicidal middle easterners who were not really terrorists to die on 4 [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Well,that's who believes this sort of crap;NUTS,psychos. 10-4 good buddy. DPH >> Dave Head >> >> You have all the rights that you're willing to fight for. You have all the rights that you're willing to fight for. >> In article <2rm4339cepcugtckj8oc2kcc9h8beu9gof@4ax.com>, Dave Head >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Dave Head If a guy wants a gun,all he has to do is break into a police car during the off-duty time. Several police departments and the FBI have had their cruisers burglarized and weapons taken,some were full-auto machine guns. If they are gutsy,they can blindside a cop and take the gun right off the body.Maybe get TWO guns,including the hidden backup.Or get the keys to the cruiser,where he might find a M-16 or semi-auto AR-15,or a shotgun. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net >>> In article <2rm4339cepcugtckj8oc2kcc9h8beu9gof@4ax.com>, Dave Head >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >body.Maybe get TWO guns,including the hidden backup.Or get the keys to the >cruiser,where he might find a M-16 or semi-auto AR-15,or a shotgun. Yeah, there are sooooo many different ways to come up with a gun if you want one in a country that has about 250 million of them in its society. Dave Head You have all the rights that you're willing to fight for. > Guns are very easy to manufacture with common tools and materials. It > isn't possible to "ban" them. Someone will still make them for the > "underground" gun traders. You are an idiot. Guns are very difficult to make unless you're a skilled machinist with a lot of time and equipment. It's not hard to make a single shot "zip gun" for the puny 22LR cartridge but any real gun is another story. Knives are another story. They truly are easy to make and a knife ban wouldn't work worth a damn. >> Guns are very easy to manufacture with common tools and materials. It >> isn't possible to "ban" them. Someone will still make them for the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Knives are another story. They truly are easy to make and a knife ban > wouldn't work worth a damn. Difficult for you, I have no doubt. >>> Guns are very easy to manufacture with common tools and materials. >>> It isn't possible to "ban" them. Someone will still make them for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> make a single shot "zip gun" for the puny 22LR cartridge but any real >> gun is another story. > Difficult for you, I have no doubt. I am not a machinist and yes it would be difficult for me. And that's true of 99.9999% of americans. THINK >>>> Guns are very easy to manufacture with common tools and materials. >>>> It isn't possible to "ban" them. Someone will still make them for [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I am not a machinist and yes it would be difficult for me. And that's > true of 99.9999% of americans. THINK There are more machinists in the population than your estimate. In any event, what wouldn't be made here would be smuggled in from elsewhere. jcr <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in news:3JGdnXdN- 8PLHLbbnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@comcast.com: >>>>> Guns are very easy to manufacture with common tools and materials. >>>>> It isn't possible to "ban" them. Someone will still make them for [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > There are more machinists in the population than your estimate. In any > event, what wouldn't be made here would be smuggled in from elsewhere. the Unibomber made a handgun using simple hand tools,in a shed out in Idaho. the Pathans of Pakistan made AKs with simple tools. I understand they can copy many guns. Sten machine guns are easier to make than semi-auto guns. One guy in Australia was making handguns in his home shop by the 100s,and sold 100s of them before the police caught him. One of the businesses of the Yakuza is gunrunning. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > jcr <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in news:3JGdnXdN- > 8PLHLbbnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@comcast.com: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > One of the businesses of the Yakuza is gunrunning. Yes, of course. Judy is as clueless as always. > > Guns are very easy to manufacture with common tools and materials. It > > isn't possible to "ban" them. Someone will still make them for the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Knives are another story. They truly are easy to make and a knife ban > wouldn't work worth a damn. Here in New Zealand we have a knife ban of sorts - sure people break the ban, but they know that if they are caught (for other or associated offences) they will be charged and will face an appreciably greater sentence. It does work worth a damn here. One can carry a new knife home from the shop wrapped, or keep one's hunting/fishing knife in the car boot but one kept accessably under the drivers seat might get you in trouble. A pocket knife of up to specific size is ok, a locking flick knife not. Regards, Greg.P. >Guns are very easy to manufacture with common tools and materials. It >isn't possible to "ban" them. Someone will still make them for the >"underground" gun traders. Here is an idea. You may not be able to ban guns but you can make them difficult to use. Ban all ammunition and ammunition supplies. Now all the illegal guns you can not get off the streets become quite useless after the ammo runs out. At the very least they woud become too expensive fo use.. ------------------------------------------------- Instead of wasting your free time on the Internet. Make a little free cash while your at it. http://www.topgetpaid.com/ >> Guns are very easy to manufacture with common tools and materials. It >> isn't possible to "ban" them. Someone will still make them for the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > after the ammo runs out. At the very least they woud become too > expensive fo use.. It's impossible to "ban" things. There will always be an "underground" supply that goes with an underground economy. >>Guns are very easy to manufacture with common tools and materials. It >>isn't possible to "ban" them. Someone will still make them for the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > after the ammo runs out. At the very least they woud become too > expensive fo use.. Utopian dreamer. "if only..." BTW,police and government often have their guns stolen.They also have ammo. I recall when the DC police discovered that in one year,40% of recovered crime guns in the District were fron the DC police evidence lockers. Some cop(s?) was selling guns from the lockers,that were recorded as "destroyed". SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:28:18 -0400, Drunken Driver > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > More guns means more gun crime. Yeah, The Gun ban seems to be working very well in Britain! Firearms were used in 9,974 recorded crimes in the 12 months to last April across the country, up from 7,362 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2769569.stm Ironically article Title "Police 'winning London gun crime battle'" Yet the last 2 paragraphs of the article Official Home Office figures released last month showed that gun crime in England and Wales soared by 35% last year, the fourth consecutive year to see a rise. Firearms were used in 9,974 recorded crimes in the 12 months to last April across the country, up from 7,362. >> On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:28:18 -0400, Drunken Driver >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Firearms were used in 9,974 recorded crimes in the 12 months to last > April across the country, up from 7,362 Hey,all it takes is ONE guy,ONE gun and the INTENT to commit another Dunblaine.Or Port Arthur,or Virginia Tech..... > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2769569.stm > Ironically article Title "Police 'winning London gun crime battle'" [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Firearms were used in 9,974 recorded crimes in the 12 months to last > April across the country, up from 7,362. UK also had to ban replica guns and blank-firing pistols,as crooks were converting them to fire real ammo. Now they have banned some knives,pointy ones. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in news:Xns991BC661946CDjyanikkuanet@ 64.209.0.87: > > > UK also had to ban replica guns and blank-firing pistols,as crooks were > converting them to fire real ammo. > > Now they have banned some knives,pointy ones. Right! I will now teach you how to defend yourself against a man with a banana. What if he's got a pointy stick? Shut up. Doug > Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in news:Xns991BC661946CDjyanikkuanet@ > 64.209.0.87: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > What if he's got a pointy stick? A spear,or arrow(or "shank");definitely a dangerous weapon. An icepick will penetrate a policeman's soft body armor. > Shut up. > > Doug typical liberal AH;censoring others;"shut up". They want free speech for themselves,but opposing opinions are to be stifled. You never see conservatives making pie assaults on speakers. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net >> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in >> news:Xns991BC661946CDjyanikkuanet@ 64.209.0.87: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > You never see conservatives making pie assaults on speakers. Um, Monty Python. And he shot the man with the banana. Doug >But it is very easy for a felon to acquire a gun legal or otherwise >because there are so many of them (guns) circulating in US society. If >guns were banned then Cho may have wanted to kill 31 of his classmates >but the chances are he would not have been able to acquire a gun to do >so. So he would have gotten a can of gasoline and a few matches, chained the doors shut, and set the place afire. SignatureThere's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. Waiving the right to remain silent, russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew T. Russotto) said: >>But it is very easy for a felon to acquire a gun legal or otherwise >>because there are so many of them (guns) circulating in US society. If [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > So he would have gotten a can of gasoline and a few matches, chained > the doors shut, and set the place afire. The largest school massacre in US history happened about 80 years ago. It was a bomb. Three years ago, a school killer with a gun was stopped by two students with guns before he could kill more than a couple of people. If he had had a bomb... Assthrobby is an engle pussy who isn't allowed to own a gun. Like a lot of his cowering countrymen, they try to pretend they like it that way because there's nothing they can do about it. Signature"And idiots begat fools, and fools begat morons, and morons begat imbeciles, and imbeciles begat dufuses. And then Yurpeons realized they could do this with people outside their immediate families..." Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), in a sure sign that the Apocalypse is upon us, someone calling themself Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - the total and complete resource on all that is GAY KID PORN, spewed forth this crap all over the landscape in rec.autos.driving: > Start with the MILLIONS of convicted drunk drivers. Start with the people who have been doped up on ritalin, prozac and so on who have been chemically altering their brains. > By driving drunk > they have announced to the world "Hell with all of you - I don't care > if i kill you or your kids". Likewise with extreme speeders. Not > someone who did 70 in a 60. CRIMINAL CODDLER!!!!!!! > But anyone convicted of doing 30+ over the > speed limit has proven himself a sociopath with no concern for others. Better yet, why don't we set the limit to 16 over??? You're not a coddler, now are you??? > Guns are for law-abiding citizens, not violent criminal sociopaths.!! Like you. Signature-- Loco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend (a.k.a. SADDAM) admits to being a deadly speeder, psychopath and criminal coddler: "> Have you ever driven a car faster than the legal speed limit? Yes, but never deliberately. In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5 years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in cause i was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open stretch could be 25, i thought." Pride of America (c.k.a. Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/ laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE/Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are Murderers (SADDAM)), 10/3/2002 Message-ID: <3c1753f7.0210030916.7b6f5dff@posting.google.com> http://tinyurl.com/5u4wg Proof that POA is LBMHB/lbVH/SADDAM: See the following: http://tinyurl.com/ahphj |
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