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I predicted yesterday that the driver was breaking some law. I bet she was drunk too. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287299,00.html Teen Driver in Fatal Crash Had Junior License Friday, June 29, 2007 ROCHESTER, N.Y. — State records show the driver in the crash that killed her and four teenage friends in western New York had only a junior driver's license, which made it illegal for her to be driving at that hour or carrying so many young passengers in her vehicle. Bailey Goodman, 17, had a Class DJ license, which places added restrictions on the privileges for New York drivers under 18, authorities told the Rochester Democrat & Chronicle. Goodman and four other recent graduates of Fairport High School in suburban Rochester, all 17 or 18, died when the sport utility vehicle she was driving collided head-on with a tractor-trailer in the Finger Lakes region of New York on Tuesday at about 10 p.m. That was an hour later than state law permitted her to drive. According to the state Department of Motor Vehicles, junior drivers cannot drive after 9 p.m. without a parent, guardian or someone performing parental duties, unless they're going to work or school. They also cannot carry more than two passengers under 21 unless they're members of the immediate family. (snip) > I predicted yesterday that the driver was breaking some law. I bet she > was drunk too. Let's give her the death penalty for it. >> I predicted yesterday that the driver was breaking some law. I bet >> she was drunk too. > > Let's give her the death penalty for it. Looks like she already gave it to herself ... Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS: > I predicted yesterday that the driver was breaking some law. I bet she > was drunk too. <YAWN> Who cares? </YAWN>  Signature"Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS," indicates that it is regularly involved in hit and run accidents: "It just makes it easier for someone to see and remember your plate if you're involved in a hit-and-run" --"Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS," 4/12/07 Ref: http://snipurl.com/1gjtg Msg ID: 61CTh.229$j63.50@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS: > >> I predicted yesterday that the driver was breaking some law. I bet she >> was drunk too. > > <YAWN> Who cares? </YAWN> Law-abiding citizens like myself care. Criminal coddlers like you don't. Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS: > > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS: > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Law-abiding citizens like myself care. Criminal coddlers like you don't. <YAWN> That's right, because nothing of importance happened and nobody of any significance was removed from the planet. Much the same will happen when you are finally offed: nobody will care. </YAWN> SignatureLoco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend admits - yet again - to being a deadly speeder (spelling and gramatical errors (and hissy fit) left intact): "How many times do i have to explain that? It was an experiment not a crime, you morn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/laurs bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE, 6/4/06 Ref: http://tinyurl.com/rue7x Message ID: 5n0682p1t9ohhdauh4mcpkeumqh0o0g7ue@4ax.com > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS: >>> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > of any significance was removed from the planet. Much the same will > happen when you are finally offed: nobody will care. </YAWN> Will anyone care when you die, and what difference will it make? On Jun 29, 12:07 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Law-abiding citizens like myself care. Criminal coddlers like you don't. do you support the death penalty? bob z. > On Jun 29, 12:07 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS > <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > bob z. Depends who we're killing. ;-) John SignatureVon Herzen, moge es wieder zu Herzen gehen. --Beethoven > On Jun 29, 12:07 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS > <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > do you support the death penalty? What makes you think that Death is a Penalty ? > bob z. > What makes you think that Death is a Penalty ? what makes me think... well, i think because i can't stop myself from thinking. i asked the question about the death penalty to see how S&DDAM felt about capital punishment. criminal coddler *not* and all... now, back to the question that was probably just worded incorrectly - what makes me think that death is a penalty(?). i believe death is a penalty for some that enjoy life. i, myself, am not sure if it would be a penalty /for me/ or not. i know there isn't a god or gods. there is no afterlife. if i like living, death is, indeed, a penalty. i am sure there are others that want to be alive (of course, how else could most religions have been invented?!?!?), so death would be a penaly for them. hmm, brings me to the thought that if someone took a life, they probably don't believe in any of the gods so they are pretty sure they aren't going to heaven or hell anyway, so death is not much of a penalty. they are going to die anyway, so they might as well make the most of their time here. bob z. >> What makes you think that Death is a Penalty ? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > what makes me think that death is a penalty(?). i believe death is a > penalty for some that enjoy life. <break> And how enjoyable is life for someone who is locked in a 10x8 steel cage for the rest of their natural life? > > now, back to the question that was probably just worded incorrectly - > > what makes me think that death is a penalty(?). i believe death is a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > And how enjoyable is life for someone who is locked in a 10x8 steel > cage for the rest of their natural life? i am assuming it isn't very enjoyable at all. bob z. >>> What makes you think that Death is a Penalty ? >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > And how enjoyable is life for someone who is locked in a 10x8 steel > cage for the rest of their natural life? And if you gave the convicted the choice between being locked in the cage (often *smaller* than 10x8, BTW) or being executed, what do you think the vast majority would choose? Which, ipso facto, proves that death is a punishment. This is *not* an endorsement of the death penalty, just an answer to your question as to what makes me think that Death is a penalty: most people think it is a penalty, even if you don't. Bo Raxo >>>> What makes you think that Death is a Penalty ? >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > cage (often *smaller* than 10x8, BTW) or being executed, what do you > think the vast majority would choose? Has anyone ever surveyed the Life without Parole populace that also is in 23 hr lockdown in Ad Seg ? Some have opted for, or requested, death. > Which, ipso facto, proves that death is a punishment. So is Broccoli a punishment ? > This is *not* an endorsement of the death penalty, just an answer to > your question > as to what makes me think that Death is a penalty: most people think > it is a penalty, even if you don't. So what with "euthanasia" both for humans and as historically practiced for animals? If death put them "out of their misery" then death must be, ipso facto, a reward. > Bo Raxo "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra@man.jp> said in rec.autos.driving: >> Which, ipso facto, proves that death is a punishment. > >So is Broccoli a punishment ? It is for George H. W. Bush. SignatureMFFYCam Videos Galore: http://www.geocities.com/mffycam/ >If death put them "out of their misery" then death must be, >ipso facto, a reward. Try it out and get back to us. SignatureWe're all here because we're not all there. In article <b7ahi.2018$rR.938@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"... > > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS: > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Law-abiding citizens like myself care. Criminal coddlers like you don't. And she's still dead. Signaturetrippy mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30 sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM NP: "Wild Hearted Son" -- The Cult "What did I tell the kid. It's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward. It's about how much you can take, and keep moving forward. Get up." -- Sylvester Stallone "Rocky Balboa" On Jun 29, 11:00 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I predicted yesterday that the driver was breaking some law. I bet she > was drunk too. I bet she ran over some small animals and barreled through an old folks home first, too. f.ck. On Jun 29, 8:00 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I predicted yesterday that the driver was breaking some law. I bet she > was drunk too. Kids get their license too young. Oftentimes, the rule not carry other passengers is ignored when kids get their licenses. It's not about drinking at all. It's about kids pointing a two ton missile down the road at 65 miles an hour and not having life's experiences to take it seriously. When other kids are in the car, they're apt to take chances, show off, be daring. The rule not to carry passengers for teenagers who are newly licensed is a good one. I don't know why good parents don't make their kids follow this rule. I sure did. But, my sister doesn't with her 16 year old. She almost makes me feel silly when I remind of this rule. Makes me furious when the kids go out on dates and ride around after school in these cars. I'm certainly in the minority when it comes to not letting new teenage drivers carry passengers. I'm the stick in the mud. This horrible accident should be on every parent's list of reasons what to tell their kid when they ask to borrow the car and drive with someone somewhere just this once. Karen > On Jun 29, 8:00 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS > <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > When other kids are in the car, they're apt to take chances, show off, > be daring. Or just be more distracted: chatting, joking, making faces, goofing with the car radio or the MP3 player... SignatureVon Herzen, moge es wieder zu Herzen gehen. --Beethoven > On Jun 29, 8:00 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS > <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Karen The driving age should be higher, 18 maybe 21. Or maybe insist on a HS diploma for any applicant under 20. If kids are still in school and living at home, they don't need a car. >> On Jun 29, 8:00 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS >> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > diploma for any applicant under 20. If kids are still in school and living > at home, they don't need a car. Yeah, it's not like kids need to start saving to put themselves through college. Or would want to buy clothes or food or other "luxuries". Or live in places without decent public transit opportunities. Or ever move out of their parents home before 18, or 21. Or get thrown out by their parents. Sheeeeesh. >> On Jun 29, 8:00 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS >> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > HS diploma for any applicant under 20. If kids are still in school and > living at home, they don't need a car. You don't need a car either, jackass. > I predicted yesterday that the driver was breaking some law. I bet > she was drunk too. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > (snip) On Jun 29, 8:00 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I predicted yesterday that the driver was breaking some law. I bet she > was drunk too. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > (snip) And so what...??? What can we do to fix things up? Get into our 'way-back' machine with quantities of foam pads, tie- downs and duct tape and journey into the past to make it well-padded ? Your thinking process is very strange. > On Jun 29, 8:00 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS > <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > And so what...??? > What can we do to fix things up? Enforce the law to protect future morons? > Get into our 'way-back' machine with quantities of foam pads, tie- > downs and duct tape and journey into the past to make it well-padded ? Or jail her parents for allowing her to commit a crime that cost the lives of innocent parties, eh? > Your thinking process is very strange. > And so what...??? > What can we do to fix things up? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Your thinking process is very strange. GFY, you criminal coddler. If people knew they would go to prison for at least 20 years if found at fault in a fatal crash, they wouldn't drive recklessly. >> And so what...??? >> What can we do to fix things up? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >at least 20 years if found at fault in a fatal crash, they wouldn't >drive recklessly. Of course they would. But you can bet that if they happened to kill someone with their car, they'd sure as hell hit and run. >>> And so what...??? >>> What can we do to fix things up? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Of course they would. But you can bet that if they happened to kill > someone with their car, they'd sure as hell hit and run. And make sure any witnesses were "dead" also ... >>>> And so what...??? >>>> What can we do to fix things up? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >And make sure any witnesses were "dead" also ... How did we get on the subject of Ted Kennedy again? SignatureWe're all here because we're not all there. >I predicted yesterday that the driver was breaking some law. I bet she was >drunk too. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > driver's license, which made it illegal for her to be driving at that hour > or carrying so many young passengers in her vehicle. This is devastating. Everyone is trying to make sense of the tragedy. Around 6/29/2007 8:00 AM, Aunt Judy (AKA Pride of Diarrhea, AKA "Saddam") <http://tinyurl.com/65nqz> wrote: > I predicted yesterday that the driver was breaking some law. Liar. You posted two items 6/28, and neither contained any prediction. Signature~/Garth "I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it." - Edith Sitwell (Ventis secundis, tene cursum.) |
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