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U.S. Traffic Deaths Fall to Five Year Low
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 24 Jul 2007 04:47 GMT And the credit for this goes to internet users like myself who have made americans realize that reckless drivers are killers and maimers and should not be coddled.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290480,00.html
U.S. Traffic Deaths Fall to Five Year Low
Monday, July 23, 2007
ST. LOUIS — Traffic deaths in the United States fell to their lowest level in five years in 2006, and a federal agency credited strong law enforcement and vehicle safety features as important factors in the decline.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said 42,642 people were killed in highway crashes last year, a drop from the 43,510 in 2005.
"To me, that is 868 families that didn't get the terrible call that a loved one was killed in a motor vehicle accident," said the agency's administrator, Nicole Nason. She released the annual findings at the 33rd International Forum on Traffic Records and Highway Safety Systems in St. Louis.
Her announcement was met with applause from the audience members from around the country, who record traffic data.
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Notan - 24 Jul 2007 05:23 GMT > And the credit for this goes to internet users like myself who have made > americans realize that reckless drivers are killers and maimers and > should not be coddled. <snip>
Do you *really* think you had anything to do with it.
You're nothing more than an obsessed irritant.
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 24 Jul 2007 07:10 GMT >> And the credit for this goes to internet users like myself who have >> made americans realize that reckless drivers are killers and maimers [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Do you *really* think you had anything to do with it. There's lots of us out there saying that criminal drivers like you are killers. I predict within a few years speeders will be equated with child molesters, as they should be. How many kids have you crippled, psycho-boy?
Scott en Aztlán - 24 Jul 2007 15:00 GMT Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2001@yahoo.com> said in rec.autos.driving:
>>> And the credit for this goes to internet users like myself who have >>> made americans realize that reckless drivers are killers and maimers [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >killers. I predict within a few years speeders will be equated with >child molesters, as they should be. What's abundantly clear is that the death rates went down WITHOUT any reductions in speed limits. In fact, the speed limit actually went UP in places like Texas.
I'm actually shocked that you would draw attention to the fact that you were DEAD WRONG - *again*!
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
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John Mayson - 05 Sep 2007 03:47 GMT >> And the credit for this goes to internet users like myself who have made >> americans realize that reckless drivers are killers and maimers and should [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Do you *really* think you had anything to do with it. Who knows, but I agree with him 100%.
- -- John Mayson <john@mayson.us> Austin, Texas, USA
necromancer - 24 Jul 2007 05:44 GMT Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS:
> And the credit for this goes to internet users like myself who have made > americans realize that reckless drivers are killers and maimers and > should not be coddled. BWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! That's just too danm funny, you and your delusions of grandeur!! To think that you would have anything to do with anything good happening in this country is too damn rich! I'm laughing at you so f.cking hard right not that I don't think I'm going to be able to post anymore the rest of the night tonight!! ROTFLMAO!!!
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290480,00.html They make about as much sense as you do, loser.
BWWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!
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Arif Khokar - 24 Jul 2007 13:28 GMT > And the credit for this goes to internet users like myself FAIL
Larry Bud - 24 Jul 2007 14:19 GMT On Jul 23, 11:47 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> And the credit for this goes to internet users like myself who have made > americans realize that reckless drivers are killers and maimers and > should not be coddled. LOL!
And this with speed limits continuing to rise!!! Blows every theory you've had out of the water!
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 24 Jul 2007 16:15 GMT > And this with speed limits continuing to rise!!! Blows every theory > you've had out of the water! Speed limits are NOT rising, you moron. And even if they were, the important thing is people are driving slower because they know speeders are kid-killers. Have a perfect day, psycho-boy.
k_flynn@lycos.com - 24 Jul 2007 16:53 GMT On Jul 24, 9:15 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > And this with speed limits continuing to rise!!! Blows every theory > > you've had out of the water! > > Speed limits are NOT rising, you moron. And even if they were, the > important thing is people are driving slower because they know speeders > are kid-killers. Have a perfect day, psycho-boy. Actually, he's right. Speed limits have risen and average traffic speeds have risen as well, and nothing that you've been calling for has actually occurred (IOW, not only are there not tough jail sentences for speeders, there are NO jail sentences for speeders, so your campaign has accomplished nothing), therefore not only can you *not* claim credit for lower fatalities since your platform hasn't been put into practice, but the opposite of what you call for has occurred, yet fatalities have fallen. It seems that doing the opposite of what you advicate would actually cut fatalities.
firelock_ny@hotmail.com - 24 Jul 2007 18:09 GMT On Jul 24, 11:53 am, "k_fl...@lycos.com" <k_fl...@lycos.com> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 9:15 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > occurred, yet fatalities have fallen. It seems that doing the opposite > of what you advicate would actually cut fatalities. The cuts in fatalities are, from what I've read, almost completely unrelated to speed limits (up or down). They're more a matter of improving automobile crash survival technology, better highway design and improvements in emergency trauma care technology.
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k_flynn@lycos.com - 24 Jul 2007 18:24 GMT On Jul 24, 11:09 am, firelock...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 24, 11:53 am, "k_fl...@lycos.com" <k_fl...@lycos.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > survival technology, better highway design and > improvements in emergency trauma care technology. Thank you! Exactly as I pointed out, the OP's claim that his call for jailing of speeders had nothing at all to do with it. Speeds and speed limits are up, not down.
Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) - 25 Jul 2007 06:29 GMT > On Jul 24, 11:53 am, "k_fl...@lycos.com" <k_fl...@lycos.com> wrote: > > On Jul 24, 9:15 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > survival technology, better highway design and > improvements in emergency trauma care technology. There's also the benefit next year that Lindsay Lohan will likely do some serious time behind bars. That should save a few thousand more innocents.
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hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 05 Sep 2007 20:43 GMT On Jul 24, 1:09 pm, firelock...@hotmail.com wrote:
> The cuts in fatalities are, from what I've read, almost > completely unrelated to speed limits (up or down). > They're more a matter of improving automobile crash > survival technology, better highway design and > improvements in emergency trauma care technology. True.
Older cars without air bags are replaced with cars with air bags.
More motorists wear their seat belts.
More aggressive enforcement and education against bad driving, including DWI.
Roads are always being upgraded with various crash prevention and crash survival technology. For instance, on I-95 a cable barrier was added to a wide grassy median strip. Already stopped a few cars from crossing over. An old 1950s overcrowded expressway is rebuilt with decent merge ramps and the like.
pigsty1953@yahoo.com - 25 Jul 2007 20:56 GMT On Jul 24, 11:53 am, "k_fl...@lycos.com" <k_fl...@lycos.com> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 9:15 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > occurred, yet fatalities have fallen. It seems that doing the opposite > of what you advicate would actually cut fatalities. Kevin,
There are still too many deaths and serious injuries.
Randy
Larry Bud - 26 Jul 2007 13:21 GMT On Jul 25, 3:56 pm, "pigsty1...@yahoo.com" <rshe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 11:53 am, "k_fl...@lycos.com" <k_fl...@lycos.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > There are still too many deaths and serious injuries. How many deaths would satisfy you?
pigsty1953@yahoo.com - 26 Jul 2007 21:03 GMT > On Jul 25, 3:56 pm, "pigsty1...@yahoo.com" <rshe...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > - Show quoted text - How many would satisfy you???
Randy
Larry Bud - 05 Sep 2007 21:20 GMT On Jul 26, 4:03 pm, "pigsty1...@yahoo.com" <rshe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 25, 3:56 pm, "pigsty1...@yahoo.com" <rshe...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > How many would satisfy you??? You're the one claiming there's too many. How many is NOT too many?
Larry Bud - 24 Jul 2007 18:13 GMT On Jul 24, 11:15 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > And this with speed limits continuing to rise!!! Blows every theory > > you've had out of the water! > > Speed limits are NOT rising, you moron. LOL! Only in your delusional mind are they not rising.
EAST COAST HIVE MIND - 25 Jul 2007 06:36 GMT >> And this with speed limits continuing to rise!!! Blows every theory >> you've had out of the water! > > Speed limits are NOT rising, you moron. And even if they were, the > important thing is people are driving slower because they know speeders > are kid-killers. Have a perfect day, psycho-boy. Right. CT Pre-NMSL(Nixon Memorial Speed Limit)limit: 60 MPH; post NMSL-65 MPH, NJ likewise. TX statutory limit pre-NMSL was 70 statewide. There are now 75 and 80MPH zones.
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John Mayson - 05 Sep 2007 03:52 GMT >>> And this with speed limits continuing to rise!!! Blows every theory >>> you've had out of the water! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > MPH, NJ likewise. TX statutory limit pre-NMSL was 70 statewide. There are > now 75 and 80MPH zones. Today cars are much safer and we have better tools (cell phones) and better and quicker medical care than we did during the Nixon years.
I too am tired of how we coddle people who maim and kill with their cars. If I stand by the side of the road and fire a rifle indiscriminantly and I kill, I'll be charged with murder. However I get liquored up and drive and same highway, kill the same person, it's a "whoopsies", I get a slap on the wrist and my license back.
- -- John Mayson <john@mayson.us> Austin, Texas, USA
Scott en Aztlán - 24 Jul 2007 14:57 GMT Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2001@yahoo.com> said in rec.autos.driving:
>And the credit for this goes to internet users like myself who have made >americans realize that reckless drivers are killers and maimers and >should not be coddled. Thanks for the laugh - you really jump-started my morning!
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Rich Piehl - 24 Jul 2007 16:13 GMT > And the credit for this goes to internet users like myself who have made > americans realize that reckless drivers are killers and maimers and > should not be coddled. Did you have the doorways in your widened so that your overly inflated self image fits through?
Take care, Rich
God bless the USA
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Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) - 25 Jul 2007 06:31 GMT > > And the credit for this goes to internet users like myself who have made > > americans realize that reckless drivers are killers and maimers and > > should not be coddled. > > Did you have the doorways in your widened so that your overly inflated > self image fits through? We'll have to start calling him Mr Toad.
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David Johnston - 24 Jul 2007 17:56 GMT >And the credit for this goes to internet users like myself who have made >americans realize that reckless drivers are killers and maimers and >should not be coddled. Are you really dumb enough to think your rantings influence anyone?
Greg Brown - 24 Jul 2007 19:06 GMT <Judy's BS snipped>
You are truly a pathetic troll!
Patriot Games - 24 Jul 2007 19:37 GMT > And the credit for this goes to internet users like myself who have made > americans realize that reckless drivers are killers and maimers and should > not be coddled. > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290480,00.html > U.S. Traffic Deaths Fall to Five Year Low One-third of American households don't even have internet access...
You actually did nothing, but I'm glad you had fun doing it.
bob zee - 24 Jul 2007 20:20 GMT On Jul 23, 11:47 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> U.S. Traffic Deaths Fall to Five Year Low AND speed limits are up and cell phone usage while driving is up.
bob z.
Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) - 25 Jul 2007 06:25 GMT > And the credit for this goes to internet users like myself who have made > americans realize that reckless drivers are killers and maimers and > should not be coddled. I guess you should take a bow.
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Alan Baker - 26 Jul 2007 07:24 GMT > And the credit for this goes to internet users like myself who have made > americans realize that reckless drivers are killers and maimers and [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > (snip) Funny.
Speed limits have stay higher and traffic fatalities have dropped...
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