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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / July 2007Public Transportation - You Don't Want To Go There
News Item: "The Manhattan borough president wants more police in the subways to fend off perverts who attack straphangers. Scott Stringer's office asked commuters how often someone sexually attacked or harassed them in the subway, and found frightening results. More than 60 percent of those who responded to the online study said they were sexually harassed and 10 percent said they'd been sexually assaulted." Funny, I've never been sexually harrassed or assaulted in my car. Sure, take public transportation and stand on some train platform all vulnerable because places that build lots of public transport also, likely as not, have laws against effective self defense by prohibiting the concealed carry of personal firearms. Build roads. Lots more roads. Dave Head Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> said in rec.autos.driving: >Scott Stringer's office asked commuters how often someone sexually attacked or >harassed them in the subway, and found frightening results. More than 60 >percent of those who responded to the online study said they were sexually >harassed and 10 percent said they'd been sexually assaulted." > >Funny, I've never been sexually harrassed or assaulted in my car. Thousands of teenaged girls get sexually harrassed in cars every day - it's called DATING. OBTW, have you never heard of carjacking? Do you not think it could happen to you? I ride public transit every day, and I've never been sexually harrassed, nor do I know of anyone who has been. My anecdotes trump your anecdote. >Sure, take public transportation and stand on some train platform all >vulnerable because places that build lots of public transport also, likely as >not, have laws against effective self defense by prohibiting the concealed >carry of personal firearms. > >Build roads. Lots more roads. The 210 extension that opened in SoCal last Tuesday is 7 miles long, took 4 years to build, DECADES to plan, and cost $33 MILLION per MILE. It wouold be cheaper (and faster) to station an entire squad of police in every commuter railcar.  SignatureMFFYCam Videos Galore: http://www.geocities.com/mffycam/ http://slothkills.blip.tv/ >Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >The 210 extension that opened in SoCal last Tuesday is 7 miles long, >took 4 years to build, DECADES to plan, and cost $33 MILLION per MILE. Stop goldplating and enviroplating them. >It wouold be cheaper (and faster) to station an entire squad of police >in every commuter railcar. Except then there'd be little room for riders. And there'd still be harassment, mostly by the cops. SignatureThere's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. >Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Thousands of teenaged girls get sexually harrassed in cars every day - >it's called DATING. Well, at least it wasn't by a stranger, eh? > OBTW, have you never heard of carjacking? That's not sexual... >Do you >not think it could happen to you? I think it's real unlikely. >I ride public transit every day, and I've never been sexually >harrassed, nor do I know of anyone who has been. My anecdotes trump >your anecdote. Mine's not an anecdote, its a study. >>Sure, take public transportation and stand on some train platform all >>vulnerable because places that build lots of public transport also, likely as [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >The 210 extension that opened in SoCal last Tuesday is 7 miles long, >took 4 years to build, DECADES to plan, and cost $33 MILLION per MILE. So, after centuries of roadbuilding, this country is suddenly too poor to build roads? >It wouold be cheaper (and faster) to station an entire squad of police >in every commuter railcar. But you and I both know that's not going to happen. > >Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> said in rec.autos.driving: > > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Mine's not an anecdote, its a study. Where's the study from? Please provide a cite. Although I don't live in NYC, I have ridden the subway there many times. No problem. I even carry a Metrocard in my wallet and I expect to use it again next week. A dear friend of mine who has lived in Manhattan for decades who doesn't own a car has also never had a problem on the subway. >> >Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> said in rec.autos.driving: >> > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >Where's the study from? Please provide a cite. My mistake - its not a study, but a survey: http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/am-harr0726,0,5618839.story?coll=ny-ny news-print > Although I don't live in >NYC, I have ridden the subway there many times. No problem. I even carry >a Metrocard in my wallet and I expect to use it again next week. A dear >friend of mine who has lived in Manhattan for decades who doesn't own a >car has also never had a problem on the subway. Apparently a lot of people are having problems with it. Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> said in rec.autos.driving: >>Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> said in rec.autos.driving: >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >That's not sexual... It can be. Many women have been carjacked, told to drive to some remote location, where they were then raped. Then the perp either kills her or dumps her out and drives away in her car. >>Do you >>not think it could happen to you? > >I think it's real unlikely. So is being sexually assaulted on a train (except, apparently, in NYC). >>>Build roads. Lots more roads. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >So, after centuries of roadbuilding, this country is suddenly too poor to build >roads? Too poor to build ENOUGH roads to meet current (much less future) demand at current levels of (in)efficiency. >>It would be cheaper (and faster) to station an entire squad of police >>in every commuter railcar. > >But you and I both know that's not going to happen. We also know that getting all the roads we "need" built isn't going to happen, either. SignatureMFFYCam Videos Galore: http://www.geocities.com/mffycam/ http://slothkills.blip.tv/ |
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