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Hi All, The Worldwide Highway Library is known to screen its videos for what it considers the utmost in quality. You get the roads, some destinations along that road, and quite often a bit of micro-trivia surrounding it. What happens behind the scenes could take several takes in one given location, whereas in some locations, we can pull it off in just one take. You've probably seen out Santa Clara County Route G10 video ( http://tinyurl.com/344blr ) already. Well, that wasn't the route's only candidate for release... One conspicuous candidate did not make the chopping-block because the sun was descending, causing my handsome visage to be hidden: http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/tmp/scc-g10_outake1.wmv Had it not been for the sun's astute change in patterns, this would have been the G10 video you originally saw! And ladies, don't forget to feed your man before he does anything productive. Else, something like this may happen: http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/tmp/scc-g10-outake2.wmv When it officially posts content, the Worldwide Highway Library re-iterates its position as a clear *multimedia* leader in transportation enthusiasm. Its dedication to its quality standards have kept the hobby alive and well. With its ever-growing number of visitors from 97 countries, it's not surprising that competing sites have subsequently followed by creating their own road video--be it genuine or satirical! Bottom line: we lead, they follow. Stay tuned for more highway videos, photos and topic-relevant multimedia reviews. There's more around the bend! Cheers, Carl Rogers "Adding human experience to transportation enthusiasm" ******** Calrog.com, http://www.calrog.com : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ An integrated media arm in Turn-of-the-Century PC Development, International Transportation Research, and Interpersonal Psychology. Has served your home country and ninety-seven of its worldwide neighbours since 2000, through Internet downstream and published works. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/calrog ******** >When it officially posts content, the Worldwide Highway Library re-iterates >its position as a clear *multimedia* leader in transportation enthusiasm. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >follow. Stay tuned for more highway videos, photos and topic-relevant >multimedia reviews. There's more around the bend! Someone help me out here. When was it, exactly, that Alex Nitzman started videoing his road trips?  SignatureTo reply by e-mail, remove the "restrictor plate" >> When it officially posts content, the Worldwide Highway Library re-iterates >> its position as a clear *multimedia* leader in transportation enthusiasm. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > When was it, exactly, that Alex Nitzman started videoing his road trips? Dude, you're being vague... When you wrote "his", were you referring to Alex or myself? You certainly wouldn't want the reader to default to his or her perception of the third-person! :-) In the meantime, the Library has just recorded a visit from its ninety-eighth country... Libya! Cheers, Carl Rogers "Adding human experience to transportation enthusiasm" ******** Calrog.com, http://www.calrog.com : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ An integrated media arm in Turn-of-the-Century PC Development, International Transportation Research, and Interpersonal Psychology. Has served your home country and ninety-eight of its worldwide neighbours since 2000, through Internet downstream and published works. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/calrog ******** > On Jul 29, 2:08 am, Carl Rogers <postmas...@calrog.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Alex or myself? You certainly wouldn't want the reader to default to > his or her perception of the third-person! :-) Obviously if HBE referenced Alex Nitzman by name, "his" was referring to Alex Nitzman. It's comments like this, Carl, which are why you have such a poor online reputation. You may dispute that, but the "almighty webhit" isn't a measure of popularity, and it DEFINATELY isn't a measure of reputation. ------- Back to HBE's question, Sherman more or less answered it...I'm not sure the exact year myself, but I know it was pre-2001. 2001 is when I started dabbling in videos myself (with limited results...gave up after 18 months to concentrate on photos). Froggie > Dude, you're being vague... When you wrote "his", were you referring to > Alex or myself? You certainly wouldn't want the reader to default to his > or her perception of the third-person! :-) I would assume he was referring to Alex, not you. I do not think he is being vague at all, CR. Why must everything be about YOU? >> Dude, you're being vague... When you wrote "his", were you referring to >> Alex or myself? You certainly wouldn't want the reader to default to his >> or her perception of the third-person! :-) > > I would assume he was referring to Alex, not you. I do not think he is > being vague at all, CR. Why must everything be about YOU? That's a loaded question, David... There is no evidence to cite what I was thinking. (Thanks for putting words in my mouth, though!) To prove your point, bring in someone who never contributes to MTR and have them read the same material. Ask them the same question w/o poisoning the well first... From there, you would find shreds of truth. Sleep well, and have a good one. Cheers, Carl Rogers "Adding human experience to transportation enthusiasm" ******** Calrog.com, http://www.calrog.com : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ An integrated media arm in Turn-of-the-Century PC Development, International Transportation Research, and Interpersonal Psychology. Has served your home country and ninety-eight of its worldwide neighbours since 2000, through Internet downstream and published works. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/calrog ******** > That's a loaded question, David... There is no evidence to cite what I > was thinking. (Thanks for putting words in my mouth, though!) "Dude, you're being vague... When you wrote "his", were you referring to Alex or myself?" This is not evidence? I am not putting words in your mouth... merely repeating what you said. As to my other assertion (that everything is about you), many of your posts sound very self-centered. If that is what, if you'll pardon the cliche, floats your boat then go ahead and continue to do it. However, many people here on MTR find it annoying, but perhaps that is your intention: to be annoying? Oh, I WILL sleep well. I have no reason to be afraid of you (besides "fear is an illusion"). I will not discuss this any further with you. Oh, one more thing: please ask for my permission before you borrow any of my photos from other web pages. >> That's a loaded question, David... There is no evidence to cite what I >> was thinking. (Thanks for putting words in my mouth, though!) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > This is not evidence? I am not putting words in your mouth... merely > repeating what you said. Nope. That was simply a statement of critical-thinking. If you wish to think deeper, that's your thing. Try going down the street to your local college and take a few courses in Critical Thinking. It'll change the way your perceive the world. > As to my other assertion (that everything is about you), many of your > posts sound very self-centered. If that is what, if you'll pardon the > cliche, floats your boat then go ahead and continue to do it. If you wish to judge and make the case, cite the evidence. Otherwise, you create claims that are simply based on face-value. However, many people > here on MTR find it annoying, but perhaps that is your intention: to be > annoying? You're getting off topic. But for your own satisfaction, let's delve a little deeper. It's my intention to provide information on world highways. If others wish to make personal-attributions for whatever reasons, I may or may not respond. It's a simple as that. > Oh, I WILL sleep well. I have no reason to be afraid of you (besides "fear > is an illusion"). > > I will not discuss this any further with you. That's fine. Take your ideology w/ you and keep it. It has nothing to w/ roads. I agree fear is an illusion, so we're in agreement there. I'm glad you're not afraid of me, because there was never any attempt from myself to solicit fear out of you. If your statement about "being afraid" helped liberate yourself (as an individual), I'm proud of you. > Oh, one more thing: please ask for my permission before you borrow any of > my photos from other web pages. I've only posted photos that you've submitted to me via e-mail. Do you remember the following e-mail you sent me? "Subject: More US Signs Date: 8/12/2006" If you'd like me to send a copy of the headers, that can help refresh your memory. I will never ask you for permission, because I do not, or never have asked people for their photographs. If someone wishes to submit photos to me personally, I post them out of good will and for their qualitative value. If your morals are part of your package-deal for to consider and publish your photos, please let me know and I will remove the photographs promptly. > I've only posted photos that you've submitted to me via e-mail. Do you > remember the following e-mail you sent me? If you say I have, then I will accept your word. I do not need the headers, but the date of the last submission and a listing of the contents would be appreciated so I can update my files. "US 71" <us71@cox.net> said to Cal-El in rec.autos.driving: Hmm... So despite all his protestations, Cal-EL hasn't really killfiled anyone, and is still reading all our replies. >However, many people >here on MTR find it annoying, but perhaps that is your intention: to be >annoying? What do you mean "perhaps?" >Oh, one more thing: please ask for my permission before you borrow any of my >photos from other web pages. Theft and plagiarism: two the the things that make calrog.com the worldwide leader at what it does(*)!!! (*) Piss people off. SignatureMFFYCam Videos Galore: http://www.geocities.com/mffycam/ http://slothkills.blip.tv/ > "US 71" <us71@cox.net> said to Cal-El in rec.autos.driving: > > Hmm... So despite all his protestations, Cal-EL hasn't really > killfiled anyone, and is still reading all our replies. No sir, that is not my quote. "US 71" <us71@cox.net> said in rec.autos.driving: >> "US 71" <us71@cox.net> said to Cal-El in rec.autos.driving: >> >> Hmm... So despite all his protestations, Cal-EL hasn't really >> killfiled anyone, and is still reading all our replies. > >No sir, that is not my quote. ??? Who ever said that it was? SignatureMFFYCam Videos Galore: http://www.geocities.com/mffycam/ http://slothkills.blip.tv/ > That's a loaded question, David... There is no evidence to cite what I > was thinking. (Thanks for putting words in my mouth, though!) Think of it as an improvement. SignatureComrade Otto Yamamoto http://mryamamoto.50megs.com decreasing the signal, increasing the NOISE! >I would assume he was referring to Alex, not you. I do not think he is being >vague at all, CR. Why must everything be about YOU? When I'm being vague, I'll let you know -- or maybe I won't, it depends. ;-) SignatureTo reply by e-mail, remove the "restrictor plate" >Dude, you're being vague... When you wrote "his", were you referring to >Alex or myself? You certainly wouldn't want the reader to default to >his or her perception of the third-person! :-) I was referring to Mr. Nitzman. He and Andy Field presented the bulk of their initial AAroads.com photo offerings as "vidcaps" or stills extracted from videos. I tried my hand at trying to capture video stills from a VHS-C camcorder fed through an old PowerMac 6500 with a video card years ago but didn't have any luck stopping the tape at just the right moment. Somewhere on tapes I have a very unusual IND 111 sign with an odd font, and the last Kentucky button copy guide sign (a sign for KY 236/Erlanger overhead-mounted to one of the I-275 flyover ramps crossing the southbound lanes of I-71 & I-75 in Northern Kentucky. I also videotaped my first long-distance overnight road trip in 2000, to West Virginia and Virginia to check out the proposed alignment of Corridor H back when it ended west of Elkins, WV. SignatureTo reply by e-mail, remove the "restrictor plate" >>Dude, you're being vague... When you wrote "his", were you referring to >>Alex or myself? You certainly wouldn't want the reader to default to [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > West Virginia and Virginia to check out the proposed alignment of Corridor > H back when it ended west of Elkins, WV. Do you have a video card on your current box? If so, you may be able to capture stills using your video player. I can do that with MPlayer. Or you could bang the vids to DVD with a dual well recorder, and capture the stills from DVD. SignatureComrade Otto Yamamoto http://mryamamoto.50megs.com decreasing the signal, increasing the NOISE! >>Dude, you're being vague... When you wrote "his", were you referring to >>Alex or myself? You certainly wouldn't want the reader to default to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > initial AAroads.com photo offerings as "vidcaps" or stills extracted from > videos. Thanks for the clarification; you're a stand-up guy. That's cool to know; Andy and Alex have done a lot for this hobby. (You have too!) Those vidcaps probably made the subsequent screencaps a lot easier to select what was best for their website. I remember struggling w/ road photographs several years ago, because single still-shots were taken from a moving vehicle. My camera at the time was a Sony CD Mavica, whose latency any between shows was less than stellar because of those dang CD-writes after each shot. :| > I tried my hand at trying to capture video stills from a VHS-C camcorder > fed [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > flyover ramps crossing the southbound lanes of I-71 & I-75 in Northern > Kentucky. Very, very cool! Take care, Carl Rogers "Adding human experience to transportation enthusiasm" ******** Calrog.com, http://www.calrog.com : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ An integrated media arm in Turn-of-the-Century PC Development, International Transportation Research, and Interpersonal Psychology. Has served your home country and ninety-eight of its worldwide neighbours since 2000, through Internet downstream and published works. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/calrog ******** On Jul 29, 1:55 am, H.B. Elkins <hbelk...@mis.net.restrictorplate> wrote: > >When it officially posts content, the Worldwide Highway Library re-iterates > >its position as a clear *multimedia* leader in transportation enthusiasm. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > When was it, exactly, that Alex Nitzman started videoing his road trips? IIRC, 1997. > On Jul 29, 1:55 am, H.B. Elkins <hbelk...@mis.net.restrictorplate> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > IIRC, 1997. Even earlier than that, I think ... ISTR seeing some pictures on aaroads.com derived from vidcaps with dates as early as 1992. SignatureLarry Harvilla e-mail: larry AT phatpage DOT org blog-aliciousness: http://www.phatpage.org/news/ Highways section still in progress at http://www.phatpage.org/highways.html > Even earlier than that, I think ... ISTR seeing some pictures on > aaroads.com derived from vidcaps with dates as early as 1992. http://mryamamoto.50megs.com/alex/index.html http://mryamamoto.50megs.com/alex/cops.html Alex claims an early date of 1991 on the accidents video, the earliest vidcap there is 1993. Leave us not forget http://mryamamoto.topcities.com/vidcaps1/vidcap1.htm and http://mryamamoto.topcities.com/vidcaps2/vidcap2.htm which range from 1987-1991 and are chock full of things that no longer exist. And of course, It ain't video, but it's teh old fer sure and there's LOTS of it: http://mryamamoto.topcities.com/pictmissionindex/summa-index.htm Michael's snaps are scattered among the HIVE MIND sites: Alps Roads and Gribblenation have their share. SignatureComrade Otto Yamamoto http://mryamamoto.50megs.com decreasing the signal, increasing the NOISE! >> On Jul 29, 1:55 am, H.B. Elkins <hbelk...@mis.net.restrictorplate> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Even earlier than that, I think ... ISTR seeing some pictures on >aaroads.com derived from vidcaps with dates as early as 1992. Here's a thead from 1999: Road Videographer Count http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/browse_thread/thread/d2f620a4 ef9bfc4f My first road video was taken in 1994, but not posted until I put the rest of my video page up in 2001: http://members.cox.net/mkpl3/video/video.html Carl Rogers: > http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/tmp/scc-g10_outake1.wmv > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/tmp/scc-g10-outake2.wmv The only thing missing in these videos is a banana. Signature"I didn't want to hurt them, I only wanted to kill them." - David Berkowitz necromancer <55_sux@worldofnecromancer_nospam_noway.org> said in misc.transport.road: > Carl Rogers: >> http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/tmp/scc-g10_outake1.wmv [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >The only thing missing in these videos is a banana. http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=66l2c84 SignatureTake the pledge. Don't feed the troll. Scott en Aztl�n wrote: >>The only thing missing in these videos is a banana. > > http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=66l2c84 The Howard Dean Screem at the end is perfect. SignatureComrade Otto Yamamoto http://mryamamoto.50megs.com decreasing the signal, increasing the NOISE! On Jul 29, 5:24 pm, EAST COAST HIVE MIND <res...@nce-is-futi.le> wrote: > Scott en Aztl?n wrote: > >>The only thing missing in these videos is a banana. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > decreasing the signal, > increasing the NOISE! I had a great chuckle at that. "Sherman L. Cahal" <shermancahal@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: >> >>The only thing missing in these videos is a banana. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I had a great chuckle at that. Thanks, guys; Even though Howard can't be President, he can still make Cal-El's videos interesting. :) SignatureMFFYCam Videos Galore: http://www.geocities.com/mffycam/ http://slothkills.blip.tv/ Scott en Aztlán: > necromancer <55_sux@worldofnecromancer_nospam_noway.org> said in > misc.transport.road: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=66l2c84 ROTFL!! That was a good one. Especially the Dean Scream at the end..... SignatureCarl Troller melts down in another victory for sensible driving over the rabid "slow = safe," nanny-nazis: "I didn't realize this was some teenage head-butting contest. You just made me sick enough to leave for good." --"Brad," (a.k.a. Carl Troller), 12/08/2006 Ref: http://tinyurl.com/ylf955 Message ID: 1165563989.317954.88270@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com > You've probably seen out Santa Clara County Route G10 video (http://tinyurl.com/344blr) already. Well, that wasn't the route's only > candidate for release... One conspicuous candidate did not make the > chopping-block because the sun was descending, causing my handsome visage to > be hidden: Handsome? I've seen your MySpace page: you look like an ugly, lonely, geeky, little boy. And standing nude with a highway sign? That's tr?s gauche, dude. > Hi All, > > The Worldwide Highway Library is known to screen its videos for what it > considers the utmost in quality. Since when? You get the roads, some destinations along > that road, and quite often a bit of micro-trivia surrounding it. What > happens behind the scenes could take several takes in one given location, > whereas in some locations, we can pull it off in just one take. So you're saying what you post is the BEST you can do? > You've probably seen out Santa Clara County Route G10 video ( > http://tinyurl.com/344blr ) already. Well, that wasn't the route's only [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/tmp/scc-g10_outake1.wmv > Had it not been for the sun's astute change in patterns, this would have > been the G10 video you originally saw! And ladies, don't forget to feed > your man before he does anything productive. Else, something like this > may happen: > > http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/tmp/scc-g10-outake2.wmv And now you're putting them on your web site, which means they weren't rejected. Which means you'll post whatever you shoot, no matter what it looks like. SignatureDon't forget to have your troll spayed or neutered > When it officially posts content, the Worldwide Highway Library > re-iterates its position as a clear multimedia leader in transportation [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > photos and topic-relevant multimedia reviews. There's more around the > bend! Piss off. I follow no one. SignatureComrade Otto Yamamoto http://mryamamoto.50megs.com decreasing the signal, increasing the NOISE! On Jul 29, 7:23 pm, EAST COAST HIVE MIND <res...@nce-is-futi.le> wrote: > > When it officially posts content, the Worldwide Highway Library > > re-iterates its position as a clear multimedia leader in transportation [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Piss off. I follow no one. And I have you to thank, actually, for my videos - your I-587 vid sparked me to start recording my own on short highways and crossings. > it's not > surprising that competing sites have subsequently followed by creating their > own road video--be it genuine or satirical! Well, I can't say I'm competing(nor do I have a website), so much as I am trying to contribute local road coverage to the greater good of the roadgeek community. And If anyone's been an inspiration for my work, it's Jim. As you can see, my editing style is heavily influenced by his. Take care- Justin >> it's not >> surprising that competing sites have subsequently followed by creating [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Justin I, for one, am glad to see the proliferation of videos on the web. Just incidentally, krl rgrz never even came to mind when I decided to start posting-I was actually inspired by Steve Williams-the Georgia Roadgeek. SignatureComrade Otto Yamamoto http://mryamamoto.50megs.com decreasing the signal, increasing the NOISE! On Jul 29, 7:01 pm, EAST COAST HIVE MIND <res...@nce-is-futi.le> wrote: > >> it's not > >> surprising that competing sites have subsequently followed by creating [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > incidentally, krl rgrz never even came to mind when I decided to start > posting-I was actually inspired by Steve Williams-the Georgia Roadgeek. Me too. Especially the videos of Dallas, Texas. I don't drive out there too often, but when I do it brings back memories of past road trips. Alan Hamilton was my inspiration to start posting. When I read his US 70 end-to-end story, that's how i found about usenet. It wasn't long before I figured out how to use my newsreader(at the time) and start posting. Seeing as how Richard Moeur and Alan Hamilton don't post here anymore, and Jason moved to Nevada, I feel it's my duty... ok, maybe not so much my duty, but it gives me an opportunity to step in and help keep the roadgeek community informed on Metro Phoenix happenings. One might say that at the moment, I'm the Phoenix Roadgeek pro tem :-) On Jul 29, 7:01 pm, EAST COAST HIVE MIND <res...@nce-is-futi.le> wrote: > >> it's not > >> surprising that competing sites have subsequently followed by creating [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > incidentally, krl rgrz never even came to mind when I decided to start > posting-I was actually inspired by Steve Williams-the Georgia Roadgeek. I was inspired to start reading/posting to MTR by Alan Hamilton's US 70 end-to-end story, whose website I found in Richard Moeur's links, whose website had a link on ADOT's website at the time, whose website I found out about after seeing a news story on TV about an upcoming road project. . . For some reason, I feel the need to mention Kevin Bacon. :-) Well, Alan doesn't post here anymore. Nor does Richard Moeur. Jason moved to Nevada, so I feel it's my duty... ok, maybe not so much duty, but a good opportunity to step in and help keep the Phoenix related discussions going. Of course, Chuck and Jason still contribute Phx material on a regular basis, but at the moment I think I'm the only MTR regular who resides in Phoenix.. > On Jul 29, 7:01 pm, EAST COAST HIVE MIND <res...@nce-is-futi.le> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > material on a regular basis, but at the moment I think I'm the only > MTR regular who resides in Phoenix..- Hide quoted text - Oops... 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