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SURPRISE - Minneapolis in effect has a 7 death bridge collapse EVERY WEEK

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 03 Aug 2007 03:55 GMT
The metro area has a liitle over 3 million people which is 1% of
america's population and since america has around 800 highway deaths
every week that means minneapolis must have 8 or so. And the city could
easily put a stop to these murders   by cracking down on highway
criminals such as speeders and DUIs. And unlike upgrading bridges, it
wouldn't cost a thing. But people are psychopaths and say hell with it.
MLOM - 03 Aug 2007 04:15 GMT
On Aug 2, 9:55 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The metro area has a liitle over 3 million people which is 1% of
> america's population and since america has around 800 highway deaths
> every week that means minneapolis must have 8 or so. And the city could
> easily put a stop to these murders   by cracking down on highway
> criminals such as speeders and DUIs. And unlike upgrading bridges, it
> wouldn't cost a thing. But people are psychopaths and say hell with it.

And this coming from one who claimed that the bridge was at fault in
the Teddy incident.  Go figure.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 03 Aug 2007 04:59 GMT
> And this coming from one who claimed that the bridge was at fault in
> the Teddy incident.  Go figure.

WTF does teddy have to do with this, you illogical hatefilled loony.?
MLOM - 03 Aug 2007 23:42 GMT
On Aug 2, 10:59 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
<beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > And this coming from one who claimed that the bridge was at fault in
> > the Teddy incident.  Go figure.
>
> WTF does teddy have to do with this, you illogical hatefilled loony.?

About as much a laura bush.  Next question, goofball.
Alan Baker - 03 Aug 2007 05:27 GMT
> The metro area has a liitle over 3 million people which is 1% of
> america's population and since america has around 800 highway deaths
> every week that means minneapolis must have 8 or so. And the city could
> easily put a stop to these murders   by cracking down on highway
> criminals such as speeders and DUIs. And unlike upgrading bridges, it
> wouldn't cost a thing. But people are psychopaths and say hell with it.

Sorry, but you're simply wrong.

Even if every driver started obeying the speed limit people would still
die.

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Larry Bud - 04 Aug 2007 19:46 GMT
> In article <13b568fpnima...@corp.supernews.com>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Even if every driver started obeying the speed limit people would still
> die.

Not only that, but cities would continue to lower speed limits to
ridiculous results as their revenues dried up.  Therefore, we'll
always have "criminal" speeders.
Jerry Okamura - 03 Aug 2007 05:42 GMT
How do you stop people from speeding and drinking under the influence of
alcohol or drugs?  How do you do that without spending any money?

> The metro area has a liitle over 3 million people which is 1% of america's
> population and since america has around 800 highway deaths every week that
> means minneapolis must have 8 or so. And the city could easily put a stop
> to these murders   by cracking down on highway criminals such as speeders
> and DUIs. And unlike upgrading bridges, it wouldn't cost a thing. But
> people are psychopaths and say hell with it.
necromancer - 03 Aug 2007 23:25 GMT
Jerry Okamura:
> How do you stop people from speeding and drinking under the influence of
> alcohol or drugs?  How do you do that without spending any money?

That is SFB's version of "VooDoo Economics."



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MLOM - 03 Aug 2007 23:42 GMT
On Aug 3, 5:25 pm, necromancer
>  Jerry Okamura:
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Ref:http://snipurl.com/1gjtg
> Msg ID: 61CTh.229$j63...@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net

Voodoo economics, or doodoo economics?
necromancer - 04 Aug 2007 05:19 GMT
MLOM:

<< reply limited to m.t.r and r.a.d >>

> On Aug 3, 5:25 pm, necromancer
> >  Jerry Okamura:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Voodoo economics, or doodoo economics?

Either one is highly appropriate when referring to SFB S&DDAM....

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Carl Rogers - 04 Aug 2007 03:10 GMT
> The metro area has a liitle over 3 million people which is 1% of
> america's population and since america has around 800 highway deaths
> every week that means minneapolis must have 8 or so. And the city could
> easily put a stop to these murders   by cracking down on highway
> criminals such as speeders and DUIs. And unlike upgrading bridges, it
> wouldn't cost a thing. But people are psychopaths and say hell with it.

Hi,

I like you, and I'll tell you why.  Your heart's in the right place!  So
it would out of place to logically debate the arguments you've made,
when your intent is to protect the life of a would-be (innocent) victim
from an inebriated driver.

Be that as it may, there is a correlation between increased
police-coverage on the road, and the subsequent decrease in
drunk-driving accidents.  Many drunk-driving accidents can lead to
death.  Based on these merits, it may further contribute to the
protection of innocent life by pulling officers off the Main Street
patrols, who in other words would be capriciously assigning parking
tickets to increase city revenue, and onto high-volume roads to find
suspected drunk motorists.

One life saved is one death avoided.  This holds true in Minneapolis,
Calgary, Graz, or Ulan Bator.  It doesn't matter where you are.

Putting this all into consideration, let me know if I ever pass through
your region!  We could head to the local pub and grab a couple litres of
Spaten.  A designated driver would be assigned to each of us afterwards,
of course.

Cheers,

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necromancer - 04 Aug 2007 04:26 GMT
Carl Rogers:
> Putting this all into consideration, let me know if I ever pass through
> your region!  

Yeah. The rest of would like confirmation of where S&DDAM's region is.
Generally accepted to be the Littleton, CO area.

> We could head to the local pub and grab a couple litres of
> Spaten.  A designated driver would be assigned to each of us afterwards,
> of course.

<sarcasm> I can't wait to see S&DDAM's reaction to this.... </sarcasm>

BTW, I'm sure that S&DDAM just *loves* the notion of you driving while
holding a video camera.....

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"All the paranoids out there like to claim that RLCs are
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true, i should have been caught but never have been!!"

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John Mayson - 06 Aug 2007 17:05 GMT
> Be that as it may, there is a correlation between increased police-coverage
> on the road, and the subsequent decrease in drunk-driving accidents.  Many
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> parking tickets to increase city revenue, and onto high-volume roads to find
> suspected drunk motorists.

There is.  When police have high profile crackdowns, highway deaths go
down.

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Austin, Texas, USA

John Mayson - 06 Aug 2007 17:04 GMT
> The metro area has a liitle over 3 million people which is 1% of america's
> population and since america has around 800 highway deaths every week that
> means minneapolis must have 8 or so. And the city could easily put a stop to
> these murders   by cracking down on highway criminals such as speeders and
> DUIs. And unlike upgrading bridges, it wouldn't cost a thing. But people are
> psychopaths and say hell with it.

I've long believed we should treat DUI deaths as murders.  As far as I'm
concerned if you get behind the wheel of a car drunk, you have intent to
kill.

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Austin, Texas, USA

Matthew T. Russotto - 08 Aug 2007 22:42 GMT
>I've long believed we should treat DUI deaths as murders.  As far as I'm
>concerned if you get behind the wheel of a car drunk, you have intent to
>kill.

Fortunately for both the legal system and the English language, your
concerns haven't been made law just yet.

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John S. - 06 Aug 2007 20:50 GMT
On Aug 2, 10:55 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The metro area has a liitle over 3 million people which is 1% of
> america's population and since america has around 800 highway deaths
> every week that means minneapolis must have 8 or so. And the city could
> easily put a stop to these murders   by cracking down on highway
> criminals such as speeders and DUIs. And unlike upgrading bridges, it
> wouldn't cost a thing. But people are psychopaths and say hell with it.

In no way does that support the statement that: " Minneapolis in
effect has a 7 death bridge collapse EVERY WEEK".

Go restart your math schooling and let me know when you finish basic
statistics.

Good gawd.....
 
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