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Nissan develops super-sophisticated system to stop drunk drivers

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 05 Aug 2007 04:50 GMT
This is all part of a scam to add a multi-thousand dollar gadget to the
cost ofall cars. The solution to drunk drivers is to throw them in
prison for a few years and permanently revoke their license. Stop
coddling these killers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=4730
40&in_page_id=1770


The car that stops you drink-driving
By RAY MASSEY  » Last updated at 00:38am on 4th August 2007

A car that can tell when a drink-driver gets behind the wheel - and stop
him or her moving off - has been developed by Nissan.

It uses a combination of electronic 'noses' to sniff the air and cameras
and behavioural detectors to decide if a driver is inebriated. If the
answer is yes, the car is immobilised.

The system can even differentiate between the driver's breath and that
of passengers who may have had a drink.

Some cars are already being fitted with 'alco-locks', which require the
driver to blow into a tube to give a breath sample before he is allowed
to start off.

But the Nissan technology is different because it does not need any
action by the driver.

Instead, motorists are monitored from the moment they get behind the
wheel. An alcohol odour sensor checks the breath while another tests for
alcohol in the sweat of a palm touching the gear stick.

A tiny dashboard-mounted camera monitors the driver's face and eye
movements and detects whether they are fit to drive.

It measures the rate of blinking - an indicator of drowsiness - and
examines features such as the droopiness of the mouth to check for yawning.

When the detected alcohol level is above a preset threshold - which can
be at or below the legal limit - the system locks the transmission,
immobilising the car.

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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 05 Aug 2007 17:16 GMT
>This is all part of a scam to add a multi-thousand dollar gadget to the
>cost ofall cars. The solution to drunk drivers is to throw them in
>prison for a few years and permanently revoke their license. Stop
>coddling these killers.

Why isn't Ted Kennedy pushing for such strict legislature?

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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 05 Aug 2007 17:19 GMT
>legislature

Grr. Er, legislation...

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Fred G. Mackey - 05 Aug 2007 17:39 GMT
> This is all part of a scam to add a multi-thousand dollar gadget to the
> cost ofall cars. The solution to drunk drivers is to throw them in
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and behavioural detectors to decide if a driver is inebriated. If the
> answer is yes, the car is immobilised.

Who the hell would buy a car like that?
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 05 Aug 2007 19:34 GMT
On Aug 5, 10:39 am, "Fred G. Mackey"

> Who the hell would buy a car like that?

The goal is to eventually make it a standard feature on all cars.
necromancer - 06 Aug 2007 12:57 GMT
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS:
> On Aug 5, 10:39 am, "Fred G. Mackey"
> >
> > Who the hell would buy a car like that?
>
> The goal is to eventually make it a standard feature on all cars.

Yeah, we all know that you would rather that the drunks get out on the
road and kill someone.

I hope either that happens to you or this does:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvJ1hLS4Dfc

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Aunt Judy defends a known *drunk driver*:

"Almost all  vehicle 'accidents' are due to driver
recklessness but the Chappaquidick incident is one
instance where it may really have been no ones
fault except the idiot who built the bridge."
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Scott en Aztlán - 06 Aug 2007 00:54 GMT
"Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam> said in rec.autos.driving:

>> A car that can tell when a drink-driver gets behind the wheel - and stop
>> him or her moving off - has been developed by Nissan.
>
>Who the hell would buy a car like that?

Frances Willard.
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Bo Raxo - 06 Aug 2007 00:36 GMT
On Aug 4, 8:50 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This is all part of a scam to add a multi-thousand dollar gadget to the
> cost ofall cars. The solution to drunk drivers is to throw them in
> prison for a few years and permanently revoke their license. Stop
> coddling these killers.

So your answer is to do something after they get caught.  And how many
times do they drive drunk before they get caught - ten?  Twenty?  A
hundred?

Why are you against preventing the crime in the first place?  Is it
because you like to drive drunk, or is it just because you're a
criminal coddler?  You're probably coddling five or six criminals
right now, no doubt, feeding them snickerdoodles and telling them
there's nothing wrong with their lawbreaking ways.

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_arti...
necromancer - 06 Aug 2007 12:45 GMT
Bo Raxo:
> On Aug 4, 8:50 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

<< S&DDAM's crap flushed >>

> So your answer is to do something after they get caught.  And how many
> times do they drive drunk before they get caught - ten?  Twenty?  A
> hundred?

And how many people are killed before the cops finally nab the drunk
driver. Since SFB is against this technology, then it is a logical
conclusion that SFB is a liar when it claims that it wants to save lives
and prevent "kid-krippling."

> Why are you against preventing the crime in the first place?  Is it
> because you like to drive drunk, or is it just because you're a
> criminal coddler?  

Probablly both. We already have an admission of drunkenness on its part,
to also dring and drive is not that big of a stretch. (see .sig)

> You're probably coddling five or six criminals
> right now, no doubt, feeding them snickerdoodles and telling them
> there's nothing wrong with their lawbreaking ways.

I'm not going to touch this one. BTW, which group are you reading these
from so I know which ones I can snip in my future replies?

<< snip link >>

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S&DDAM admits to being drunk and to possible drunk driving by way of
a sentence with the poor grammar of the double negative:

"I ain't not never been drunk none in my life. "

--Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS," a.k.a. LBMHB, lb-VH,
Pride of America, aunt millie, Judy Diariya etc...
    May 1, 2007, 1331 hrs EDT

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Bo Raxo - 07 Aug 2007 00:44 GMT
On Aug 6, 4:45 am, necromancer
>  Bo Raxo:
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> conclusion that SFB is a liar when it claims that it wants to save lives
> and prevent "kid-krippling."

Yes, although applying rules of logic to S&DDAMS thinking...heck, even
applying the word "thinking" to what it spews out is, at best,
prolematic

> > Why are you against preventing the crime in the first place?  Is it
> > because you like to drive drunk, or is it just because you're a
> > criminal coddler?  
>
> Probablly both. We already have an admission of drunkenness on its part,
> to also dring and drive is not that big of a stretch. (see .sig)

Great double negative quote in the sig (or was that a triple negative?
Only S&DDAM can get that wacky)

> > You're probably coddling five or six criminals
> > right now, no doubt, feeding them snickerdoodles and telling them
> > there's nothing wrong with their lawbreaking ways.
>
> I'm not going to touch this one. BTW, which group are you reading these
> from so I know which ones I can snip in my future replies?

alt.true-crime   It's a fun place, you should visit.  Lots of murder
and mayhem with dollops of frivolity and the occaisonal group troll
beatdown.

Bo Raxo
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 08 Aug 2007 00:13 GMT
>Lots of murder
>and mayhem with dollops of frivolity and the occaisonal group troll
>beatdown.

Sounds like my kinda place. :-)

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Joseph Houk - 06 Aug 2007 07:01 GMT
Ever occur to you to add your editorial to the END of the article?

On 08/04/2007 10:50 PM, in article 13bai7h8481mjc5@corp.supernews.com,

> This is all part of a scam to add a multi-thousand dollar gadget to the
> cost ofall cars. The solution to drunk drivers is to throw them in
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>
> (snip)
Scott en Aztlán - 07 Aug 2007 02:38 GMT
Joseph Houk <jhouk1@wi.rr.com> said in misc.transport.road:

>Ever occur to you to add your editorial to the END of the article?

Physician, heal thyself.
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loved ones.  F*CK YOU."
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Larry Bud - 06 Aug 2007 16:32 GMT
On Aug 4, 11:50 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This is all part of a scam to add a multi-thousand dollar gadget to the
> cost ofall cars. The solution to drunk drivers is to throw them in
> prison for a few years and permanently revoke their license. Stop
> coddling these killers.

How do you plan on stopping them from driving drunk the FIRST time?
 
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