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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / August 2007MFFY Sloth and stop sign
I saw a driver in a small Honda be a Stop Sign Runner and an MFFY Sloth. I was going 75 when I noticed this Honda driver approaching the roadway from a side street on my right. I was about 150 m away from the Honda when the driver rolled through the stop sign and into the lane in front of me. The Sloth did have enough time to speed up before the collision, assuming that it was in a hurry and couldn't wait the few seconds for me to pass. I was surprised to notice that the Honda driver was still going about 60 when I entered the collision zone. I ended up swerving around the Honda because the Sloth then stepped on the brakes and tried to stop. Since there was no traffic behind me, why didn't the Sloth wait for me to pass instead of running the stop sign? MFFY! > I saw a driver in a small Honda be a Stop Sign Runner and an MFFY Sloth. > I was going 75 when I noticed this Honda driver approaching the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > and tried to stop. Since there was no traffic behind me, why didn't the > Sloth wait for me to pass instead of running the stop sign? MFFY! That's an age old move.... btw you should be a little more clear you are giving speeds in kph :) > I saw a driver in a small Honda be a Stop Sign Runner and an MFFY Sloth. > I was going 75 when I noticed this Honda driver approaching the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > and tried to stop. Since there was no traffic behind me, why didn't the > Sloth wait for me to pass instead of running the stop sign? MFFY! Perhaps your velocity didn't register, only your presence, if that? The excuse most offered for crashes is, "I didn't see the other vehicle"... just something to keep in mind. The maximum SL on most if not all highways that have intersecting roads is 55. Another consideration you should take into account is that if you had not been speeding you would not have encountered the other driver at that point in time and space. And if you are going to drive at excessive velocity -you- have to be more careful since, ultimately, if they manage to get square in the lane it will be most likely found in court that they had taken possession of the ROW and had superior position. Plus, you should probably have your eyeballs and attitude calibrated. 75mph = 110fps. 150m = 492ft. Rare is the stop sign running "sloth" who accelerates 5-60 in 4.5 seconds. ----- - gpsman > The maximum SL on most if not all highways that have intersecting > roads is 55. He's giving speeds in KPH, moron. 100KPH ~= 60mph. 75kph ~= 45mph. On Aug 23, 12:29 am, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote: > In article <1187845999.979685.124...@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, gpsman wrote: > > The maximum SL on most if not all highways that have intersecting > > roads is 55. > > He's giving speeds in KPH, moron. Perhaps, but since he didn't say you're really just concluding (as per your habit) that you -know-... something you have no method of actually -knowing-. I should have taken the reference to meters into account and extrapolated I suppose, but 11 years as an FO/FAC still have me in the habit of using the metric system solely to estimate distance these days. How do you know he doesn't too? You don't. ----- - gpsman > On Aug 23, 12:29 am, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > your habit) that you -know-... something you have no method of > actually -knowing-. He gave distances in -meters-. Since the numbers didn't make sense in mph, but made sense in kph it was fairly obvious except for morons like yourself. > I should have taken the reference to meters into account and > extrapolated I suppose, Or at least asked before you lashed out at him. > but 11 years as an FO/FAC still have me in the > habit of using the metric system solely to estimate distance these > days. > How do you know he doesn't too? You don't. Few people are as stupid as you. And I do know what he was doing because his speed numbers made sense in kph. Instead of doing a knee jerk post of yours demonstrating your overwhelming stupidity again, you could have done the conversion (well I guess you'd need a calculator where others just do it in their head) to make sure before hitting send. On Aug 23, 9:45 am, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote: > In article <1187876720.910735.199...@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com>, gpsman wrote: > > On Aug 23, 12:29 am, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > mph, but made sense in kph it was fairly obvious except for morons like > yourself. How do the numbers fail to "make sense"...? Can one not travel 150m at 75 mph? > > I should have taken the reference to meters into account and > > extrapolated I suppose, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > And I do know what he was doing because his speed numbers made sense in > kph. Again, how do they fail to "make sense"? Show your work. ----- - gpsman > On Aug 23, 9:45 am, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > How do the numbers fail to "make sense"...? Can one not travel 150m > at 75 mph? from the context of the post, moron. The same context that made you think 75mph was an unsafe speed. Of course 45mph (75kph) was a perfectally reasonable speed for the road as described, hence making sense. On Aug 24, 1:00 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote: > In article <1187976678.959757.183...@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, gpsman wrote: > > On Aug 23, 9:45 am, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > from the context of the post, moron. Spurious conclusion, a person may measure distance in meters and velocity in mph without not "making sense", easily, since a meter is merely 1.094 yards and the OP offered only an estimate... the difference in this instance would be none. > The same context that made you think 75mph was an unsafe speed. Spurious conclusion, nowhere did I say or intimate 75 mph is "unsafe". > Of course > 45mph (75kph) was a perfectally reasonable speed for the road as > described, hence making sense. Spurious conclusion, the OP offered no description of the road... or its locale or the conditions beyond there was no traffic behind him... yet you have managed to conclude the speed was "perfectally reasonable".<sic>. Don't you ever tire of thinking you know things you have no method of learning, and reading things that haven't been written, and posting the result here? ----- - gpsman > On Aug 24, 1:00 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > merely 1.094 yards and the OP offered only an estimate... the > difference in this instance would be none. See if you can find some examples of anyone actually doing this... > - gpsman  SignatureAlan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia "If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard." >> from the context of the post, moron. > Spurious conclusion, a person may measure distance in meters and > velocity in mph without not "making sense", easily, since a meter is > merely 1.094 yards and the OP offered only an estimate... the > difference in this instance would be none. Yet you concluded the units were mixed, I concluded they were consistant. You just make yourself look like more the moron with each post. > Spurious conclusion, the OP offered no description of the road... Yet you concluded he was speeding by a large margin. > Don't you ever tire of thinking you know things you have no method of > learning, and reading things that haven't been written, and posting > the result here? Nice project there, asshat. You're the one that lashed out at the guy for 'speeding'. So why didn't take the 'advice' you offer now for yourself? Oh that's right, you're moron. On Aug 24, 3:17 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote: > In article <1187981008.570541.108...@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com>, gpsman wrote: > >> from the context of the post, moron. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Yet you concluded the units were mixed, I concluded they were consistant. > You just make yourself look like more the moron with each post. I concluded the speed units were "consistent" with the most common unit used in r.a.d. Consider: If he were going only 75kph he would cover the 150m at 20.8mps leaving the driver who pulled out to his front 7.2 seconds ahead, instead of 4.5. I tend to still believe his units were mixed... since 7.2 seconds would be pretty much a non-event. > > Spurious conclusion, the OP offered no description of the road... > > Yet you concluded he was speeding by a large margin. <spit take> Yes, and logically supported that conclusion, even if it is wrong. > > Don't you ever tire of thinking you know things you have no method of > > learning, and reading things that haven't been written, and posting [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 'speeding'. So why didn't take the 'advice' you offer now for yourself? > Oh that's right, you're moron. Perhaps... perhaps not. For you, it has become indisputable fact. ----- - gpsman > On Aug 24, 3:17 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I concluded the speed units were "consistent" with the most common > unit used in r.a.d. Why would you conclude that, when he posted distance in meters? Much more likely that he was posting with the units commonly used in his home area, and in consistent units. You really, really like to do all sorts of mental gymnastics just to get digs in at people you don't like, don't you? It doesn't help that in this instance you were flat wrong. nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel > > I concluded the speed units were "consistent" with the most common > > unit used in r.a.d. > > Why would you conclude that, when he posted distance in meters? Much > more likely that he was posting with the units commonly used in his home > area, and in consistent units. Maybe, maybe not. As I pointed out in the portion you snipped, someone pulling out to your front 7.2 seconds ahead while you are traveling 45mph would not be an extraordinary, or interesting, or reportable event. > You really, really like to do all sorts of mental gymnastics just to get > digs in at people you don't like, don't you? > It doesn't help that in > this instance you were flat wrong. Really? Maybe, but I don't think so. Do you have any "facts"... "cites"... you know, some evidence other than your opinion via assumption that the units are consistent, or are you just anxious to get at the smoke Brent has blown up my a.s? ----- - gpsman >>>I concluded the speed units were "consistent" with the most common >>>unit used in r.a.d. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > - gpsman Think about it logically for once. (you may want to have an ice pack handy in case your brain overheats.) Where can you safely drive 75 MPH where there are side streets with stop signs on them? Nowhere I've ever lived, although I'm willing to grant that there may be a few out in a desert somewhere. nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel > Where can you safely drive 75 MPH > where there are side streets with stop signs on them? What is... anywhere I feel it's safe...? I'll take "What The Hell Is Relevant To That" for 200, Alex. ----- - gpsman >>Where can you safely drive 75 MPH >>where there are side streets with stop signs on them? > > What is... anywhere I feel it's safe...? Which is where? > I'll take "What The Hell Is Relevant To That" for 200, Alex. I'm not aware of ANY roads with at-grade road crossings controlled by stop signs with speed limits over 55 MPH, that's what's relevant. There may be rare exceptions, but they would be just that. nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel > >>Where can you safely drive 75 MPH > >>where there are side streets with stop signs on them? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > -- > replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel I can think of a few examples for you, Nate (not to try to defend gpstroll; just some info). I'm in KC, and I only need to drive 45 minutes south to get on an expressway posted 70 with grade crossings (US 71). Most expressways in MO are posted 65, and some 2-lane roads are posted 60. In Kansas the 2-lane roads are posted 65 as practical (wider shoulders are a necessity). When I went to Brownsville, TX last winter I saw a couple of expressways posted 75 in remote areas and a 2-lane road (US 83) posted 70. A few TX farm roads are also posted 70. The SL usually depends on the frequency of the grade crossings. On older stretches of 2-lane roads the SL tends to be 55 due to terrain and lack of shoulders. >>>>Where can you safely drive 75 MPH >>>>where there are side streets with stop signs on them? [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > older stretches of 2-lane roads the SL tends to be 55 due to terrain > and lack of shoulders. but are the cross streets controlled by stop signs or lights? Granted, most of my driving experience is on the east coast, but I just don't see this very often. It does make sense that it might occasionally occur in the Midwest where things are flatter and less densely populated. nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel > >>Where can you safely drive 75 MPH > >>where there are side streets with stop signs on them? > > > What is... anywhere I feel it's safe...? > > Which is where? Duh. Wherever. It has been often postulated in r.a.d., and seconded and thirded with great vigor, that any velocity a driver might choose is safe, if they should happen to merely "feel" it is safe. Except the speed limit, of course. That is always unsafe. > > I'll take "What The Hell Is Relevant To That" for 200, Alex. > > I'm not aware of ANY roads with at-grade road crossings controlled by > stop signs with speed limits over 55 MPH, that's what's relevant. Pick any 2 lane highway in MT, they -all- have at-grade crossroads and a SL of 70, except US-93, where it is 65. http://www.doj.mt.gov/driving/drivingsafety.asp Now you're more aware, but the relevance of your awareness is moot to any point you might have, AFAICT. Do you mean to suggest the OP could not possibly be referring to 75- mph- because that would not have been safe due to at-grade crossroads, and such behavior is simply unimaginable? Impossible...? ----- - gpsman > It has been often postulated in r.a.d., and seconded and thirded with > great vigor, that any velocity a driver might choose is safe, if they > should happen to merely "feel" it is safe. You can't get anything right. Reading is fundamental. > I'm not aware of ANY roads with at-grade road crossings controlled by > stop signs with speed limits over 55 MPH, ARC routes with at-grade intersections (some with, and many without traffic signal control) have speed limits of 65 mph in WV. Of course, there aren't any stop signs for drivers on the ARC route. > > I'm not aware of ANY roads with at-grade road crossings controlled by > > stop signs with speed limits over 55 MPH, > > ARC routes with at-grade intersections (some with, and many without > traffic signal control) have speed limits of 65 mph in WV. Of course, > there aren't any stop signs for drivers on the ARC route. A few years ago US 50 in Lee's Summit, MO had a traffic light in a 65 zone. That has since been replaced with an interchange. US 63 in Columbia, MO has a railroad grade crossing in a 70 zone. There's about 2 miles' warning to watch for stopped vehicles (like school buses). Given the recent nature of that road (late '80s), I shook my head when I first saw that (Only MoDOT, only MoDOT). >> On Aug 24, 3:17 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >more likely that he was posting with the units commonly used in his home >area, and in consistent units. I'm thinking it's because he has about as much education and intellect as the high-school flunkies he's trained in the past. You know, the ones who are so stupid the only thing they can do for a living is drive trucks? >You really, really like to do all sorts of mental gymnastics just to get >digs in at people you don't like, don't you? It doesn't help that in >this instance you were flat wrong. He's wrong in most instances, but that doesn't stop him from posting. Nor does it stop SADDAM. SignatureWe're all here because we're not all there. > On Aug 24, 3:17 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I concluded the speed units were "consistent" with the most common > unit used in r.a.d. So you're a hypocrite and wrong. > Consider: If he were going only 75kph he would cover the 150m at > 20.8mps leaving the driver who pulled out to his front 7.2 seconds > ahead, instead of 4.5. > I tend to still believe his units were mixed... since 7.2 seconds > would be pretty much a non-event. And there goes the gpsturd spin job. >> > Spurious conclusion, the OP offered no description of the road... >> Yet you concluded he was speeding by a large margin. ><spit take> Yes, and logically supported that conclusion, even if it > is wrong. gpsturd shows how he's a hypocrite again. It's 'logic' when he assumes inconstancy but declares it spurious conclusion when consistancy is assumed. >> > Don't you ever tire of thinking you know things you have no method of >> > learning, and reading things that haven't been written, and posting >> > the result here? >> Nice project there, asshat. You're the one that lashed out at the guy for >> 'speeding'. So why didn't take the 'advice' you offer now for yourself? >> Oh that's right, you're moron. > > Perhaps... perhaps not. For you, it has become indisputable fact. Keep up that projection, troll. > On Aug 24, 3:17 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I concluded the speed units were "consistent" with the most common > unit used in r.a.d. Produce a posting r.a.d. that uses mixed units... > Consider: If he were going only 75kph he would cover the 150m at > 20.8mps leaving the driver who pulled out to his front 7.2 seconds [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > - gpsman SignatureAlan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia "If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard." >On Aug 24, 3:17 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >I concluded the speed units were "consistent" with the most common >unit used in r.a.d. That's what you call a "spurious conclusion", retard. Too f.cking stupid to know what one is? Bwahahahaha! >Consider: If he were going only 75kph he would cover the 150m at >20.8mps leaving the driver who pulled out to his front 7.2 seconds >ahead, instead of 4.5. > >I tend to still believe his units were mixed... since 7.2 seconds >would be pretty much a non-event. Again, spurious conclusion. Considering how stupid you are, you'll pardon us if we dismiss your conclusions as what they are: the rants of a loser. >> > Spurious conclusion, the OP offered no description of the road... >> >> Yet you concluded he was speeding by a large margin. > ><spit take> Yes, and logically supported that conclusion, even if it >is wrong. Maybe you oughta get mommie to empty your drool cup, loser. >> > Don't you ever tire of thinking you know things you have no method of >> > learning, and reading things that haven't been written, and posting [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Perhaps... perhaps not. For you, it has become indisputable fact. Yet you're the only one who seems to think that. Wonder why that is? ROTFLMAO. SignatureWe're all here because we're not all there. >On Aug 23, 9:45 am, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >How do the numbers fail to "make sense"...? Can one not travel 150m >at 75 mph? Only a retard would mix measurement systems like that needlessly. Oops, I forgot, you are a retard. >> > I should have taken the reference to meters into account and >> > extrapolated I suppose, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Again, how do they fail to "make sense"? Show your work. Aw, look, the retard got caught up in his own stupidity yet again, and is trying to shift the attention. That might have worked with your retarded high-school flunkie "students", but it doesn't float here. > ----- > >- gpsman SignatureWe're all here because we're not all there. >On Aug 23, 12:29 am, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >your habit) that you -know-... something you have no method of >actually -knowing-. ROTFLMAO. You do otherwise? pkb! >I should have taken the reference to meters into account and >extrapolated I suppose, but 11 years as an FO/FAC still have me in the >habit of using the metric system solely to estimate distance these >days. It's not your 11 years as an FO/FAC that's the problem, but your lifetime state of being a retard that's holding you back. >How do you know he doesn't too? You don't. You do? LMAO. SignatureWe're all here because we're not all there. >Another consideration you should take into account is that if you had >not been speeding you would not have encountered the other driver at >that point in time and space. You're a dumb a.s. Had he been left 30 seconds earlier or later, or modified his velocity by a few MPH (in either direction) he would have avoided the driver. So what's your point, sh.t for brains? The honda driver didn't yield right of way. People pull this kind of stupidity all the time around here. Fortunately about 110 of those idiots have their driver's licenses permanently revoked on a daily basis. SignatureWe're all here because we're not all there. On Aug 24, 6:05 am, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk@the_wheel.com> wrote: > The honda driver didn't yield > right of way. The driver took the ROW, then it was theirs. Too bad, that's the way it works and nothing can, or need be done about it. ----- - gpsman > On Aug 24, 6:05 am, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver > (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk@the_wheel.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Too bad, that's the way it works and nothing can, or need be done > about it. You're not only wrong, you're an a.s, you know that? nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel > > On Aug 24, 6:05 am, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver > > (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk@the_wheel.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > You're not only wrong, you're an a.s, you know that? I'm "wrong"... ... ... ... Hmmm... well, I guess that clinches it. I couldn't possibly refute that overwhelming and persuasive argument... ----- - gpsman >>>On Aug 24, 6:05 am, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver >>>(Hector Goldstein)" <drunk@the_wheel.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Hmmm... well, I guess that clinches it. I couldn't possibly refute > that overwhelming and persuasive argument... Yes, you're wrong. There's no argument possible, because you're wrong again, as usual. Don't you get tired of being wrong? Don't you ever just have an overwhelming urge to SHUT THE f.ck UP ABOUT THINGS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT? Why are you here in a DRIVING group anyway when you clearly know nothing about driving, have no interest in driving, and are apparently only here to troll and spew nonsense? Just go get a room with SADDAM and LEAVE US ALONE! Either that, or douse yourself in gasoline and set yourself on fire. Yes, the latter would definitely make me happier. nate (really, REALLY low tolerance for self-important morons today) Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel > >>>On Aug 24, 6:05 am, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver > >>>(Hector Goldstein)" <drunk@the_wheel.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Yes, you're wrong. There's no argument possible, because you're wrong > again, as usual. There's no argument p o s s i b l e ... -because- I'm w r o n g . . . > Don't you get tired of being wrong? Hmmm... lemme think... ... Nope, I reckon not. I retired at 50 because I'm so often wrong. > Gee whiz... > Don't you ever > just have an overwhelming urge to SHUT THE f.ck UP ABOUT THINGS YOU KNOW > NOTHING ABOUT? Why are you here in a DRIVING group anyway when you > clearly know nothing about driving, have no interest in driving, and are > apparently only here to troll and spew nonsense? What business is it of yours? If you don't like my "nonsense", ignore it or killfile it, but don't expect -me- to have the slightest interest in your "problem". It's a fuckin' NG, genius, who cares? Whaddya want, everybody to agree with you? Yeah, that'd be a lotta fun. > Either that, or douse yourself in gasoline and set yourself on fire. > Yes, the latter would definitely make me happier. Pull your panties out of your crack and man up. ----- - gpsman >>>>>On Aug 24, 6:05 am, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver >>>>>(Hector Goldstein)" <drunk@the_wheel.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > - gpsman OK, you win. yes, you really got me annoyed with you. Good troll, you win. Now just f.ck off. and I don't use a killfile because someone has to call you on all your bullshit, otherwise a newless cluebie might actually take you seriously. nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel > >>>>>On Aug 24, 6:05 am, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver > >>>>>(Hector Goldstein)" <drunk@the_wheel.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > and I don't use a killfile because someone has to call you on all your > bullshit, otherwise a newless cluebie might actually take you seriously. <spit take> Yeah, pointing out that anyone operating at the speed limit will be run over and that one should never let anyone merge to their front is a real community service. I think you should point out to the judge the services you've already provided if you're ever sentenced to perform them. You'll probably get a medal! ----- - gpsman >>>>>>>On Aug 24, 6:05 am, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver >>>>>>>(Hector Goldstein)" <drunk@the_wheel.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > <spit take> Yeah, pointing out that anyone operating at the speed > limit will be run over Case in point, I-295 in DC. > and that one should never let anyone merge to > their front is a real community service. You shouldn't *have* to let anyone merge into your front. They should simply take the space without interfering to you. > I think you should point out to the judge the services you've already > provided if you're ever sentenced to perform them. You'll probably > get a medal! What are the charges? posting nasty messages to Usenet regarding a known idiot and troll? Guilty as charged, your honor! As for you, you might want to consider nym-shifting again, nobody's taking you seriously under this one. Maybe if you stopped acting like a crotchety old man with long-held yet incorrect opinions and a grudge against everyone that's ever disagreed with him (no matter how right they may be) you might get a different response. nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel > > <spit take> Yeah, pointing out that anyone operating at the speed > > limit will be run over > > Case in point, I-295 in DC. Oh... that's quite the case! I stand corrected! > > and that one should never let anyone merge to > > their front is a real community service. > > You shouldn't *have* to let anyone merge into your front. They should > simply take the space without interfering to you. Sure, in Perfectworld, but we don't live on that planet that exists only in the imagination of driving 'tards. > > I think you should point out to the judge the services you've already > > provided if you're ever sentenced to perform them. You'll probably [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > As for you, you might want to consider nym-shifting again, nobody's > taking you seriously under this one. Spurious conclusion, I've never used any other nym. Have you been led to suspect that by all the posts in support of mine? > Maybe if you stopped acting like a > crotchety old man with long-held yet incorrect opinions and a grudge > against everyone that's ever disagreed with him (no matter how right > they may be) you might get a different response. I've forgotten more about driving than you'll ever know. Any competent driving instructor knows that reaction times and performance skills are secondary to attitude and judgment, and yours are greatly flawed. Attitude and judgment are the most basic of foundations upon which the remainder of driving skills rest. If yours are bad, and yours are, it doesn't matter how much else you know about driving, traffic, crash statistics or vehicle control, you're an "inferior driver". Insisting drivers merge according to your specifications, and refusing to assist them in the safest possible manner is stupid. Identifying a merge impaired and presumably poorly skilled driver and not maneuvering to keep them to your front, where you can keep an eye on them and prevent them from running into you until you can pass them in a safe and reasonable manner if desired, is stupid. A good driver will obtain and maintain as much space as practical from such a driver, and never consider accomplishing that by reducing velocity for a few moments would be of any inconvenience to the drivers to their rear. What's the alternative? The driver is coming onto the highway anyway, and where...?! To your rear, and to the front of the drivers behind you, so your saving them from the incomprehensible inconvenience of your reduction of velocity has gone for naught, and you have managed to force a driver you consider inferior to your rear, and probably too close to your rear, where any driver of good judgment would never want them. The mere suggestion that variance of velocity is not a common occurrence on any highway is preposterous on its face, a blind person who has only been a passenger in a vehicle could tell you that. The best drivers make allowances for the not-so-good drivers, and allow them to merge to their front, because that's the smart thing to do. Becoming involved in a petty contest over the ROW is a stupid thing to do, and the only participants are the worst of drivers. ----- - gpsman >>><spit take> Yeah, pointing out that anyone operating at the speed >>>limit will be run over >> >>Case in point, I-295 in DC. > > Oh... that's quite the case! I stand corrected! One of many. just the most severe one local to me. Drive the speed limit there and you may very well get rear-ended, and traffic is so heavy that a quick lane-change is near impossible. This is true of many highways all across the country. >>>and that one should never let anyone merge to >>>their front is a real community service. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Sure, in Perfectworld, but we don't live on that planet that exists > only in the imagination of driving 'tards. And your problem with trying to encourage the arrival of Perfectworld is...? >>>I think you should point out to the judge the services you've already >>>provided if you're ever sentenced to perform them. You'll probably [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Spurious conclusion, I've never used any other nym. Have you been led > to suspect that by all the posts in support of mine? Actually several posters (not I) have mentioned that you used to post under a different nym. >>Maybe if you stopped acting like a >>crotchety old man with long-held yet incorrect opinions and a grudge >>against everyone that's ever disagreed with him (no matter how right >>they may be) you might get a different response. > > I've forgotten more about driving than you'll ever know. You've certainly forgotten quite a bit, if you ever knew any. > Any competent driving instructor knows that reaction times and > performance skills are secondary to attitude and judgment, and yours > are greatly flawed. > > Attitude and judgment are the most basic of foundations upon which the > remainder of driving skills rest. Good so far. > If yours are bad, and yours are, it > doesn't matter how much else you know about driving, traffic, crash > statistics or vehicle control, you're an "inferior driver". But it is YOUR attitude that sucks, and you that suck at driving. > Insisting drivers merge according to your specifications, and refusing > to assist them in the safest possible manner is stupid. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > on them and prevent them from running into you until you can pass them > in a safe and reasonable manner if desired, is stupid. No, YOUR method is stupid. I do not want merge impaired drivers in front of me. I do not want them beside me. I don't want them on the road at all, but since they're going to use it anyway, I want them BEHIND me where they aren't interfering with my traffic flow. Hopefully if enough drivers take that attitude, those of the merge-impaired persuasion will either get with the program or else give up driving. > A good driver will obtain and maintain as much space as practical from > such a driver, and never consider accomplishing that by reducing > velocity for a few moments would be of any inconvenience to the > drivers to their rear. A good driver will DEFINITELY take into account the effects of his actions on those around them. A poor driver, such as yourself, doesn't care about the effects of his actions on other drivers, and thus justly receives the name "a.shole." > What's the alternative? The driver is coming onto the highway anyway, > and where...?! Exactly. > To your rear, and to the front of the drivers behind you, so your > saving them from the incomprehensible inconvenience of your reduction > of velocity has gone for naught, and you have managed to force a > driver you consider inferior to your rear, and probably too close to > your rear, where any driver of good judgment would never want them. No, since they are traveling slower, I'd RATHER have them to my rear. Or perhaps they will finally decide to accelerate once they realize that others aren't going to accomodate their poor, selfish driving. > The mere suggestion that variance of velocity is not a common > occurrence on any highway is preposterous on its face, a blind person > who has only been a passenger in a vehicle could tell you that. Hmm, guess I should have bothered to pop for that cruise control then, seeing as I'm never able to use it. > The best drivers make allowances for the not-so-good drivers, and > allow them to merge to their front, because that's the smart thing to > do. Wrong. > Becoming involved in a petty contest over the ROW is a stupid > thing to do, and the only participants are the worst of drivers. It's not a contest at all. I have the legal right of way, and I'm not yielding it because not yielding is the right thing to do. There is no "contest" whatsoever. I have right of way, merging driver does not. Period, end of sentence. If everyone drove like you recommend, eventually the right lane of the highway would become utterly unusable, thus rendering up to 50% of any highway useless. What a waste of resources! Then you add more lanes to a highway and the problem only increases. Yet again, you prove yourself unwilling to learn anything by reading what is posted on this newsgroup, so why the f.ck are you here? nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel > >>><spit take> Yeah, pointing out that anyone operating at the speed > >>>limit will be run over [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > One of many. just the most severe one local to me. Drive the speed > limit there and you may very well get rear-ended Duh. Cite one rear-end collision that occurred when both vehicles were traveling at or near highway velocity in relatively free flowing traffic, from any reputable source, from anytime, anywhere. > , and traffic is so > heavy that a quick lane-change is near impossible. Duh-uh. Good judgment and practice makes quick lanes changes unnecessary barring rare extraordinary circumstances. I know you probably have to make them all the time, but that's the result of poor judgment and practice. One need not make a quick lane change to permit a merger to their front, a minor lift off the throttle will do it, and that is always the preferable technique to making quick lanes changes... to good drivers anyway. > This is true of many > highways all across the country. Duh. That is due to the great number of poor drivers like yourself who follow too closely as a matter of habit. In contrast is the space to my front which is always available for mergers and quick lane changers of any size vehicle, without any judgment of their technique on my part. The space is there, use it if you want it, makes no difference to me. > >>>and that one should never let anyone merge to > >>>their front is a real community service. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > And your problem with trying to encourage the arrival of Perfectworld is...? It's less safe and more logical than encouraging it. > >>>I think you should point out to the judge the services you've already > >>>provided if you're ever sentenced to perform them. You'll probably [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Actually several posters (not I) have mentioned that you used to post > under a different nym. That's quite the evidence... but it is as untrue as can possibly be. > >>Maybe if you stopped acting like a > >>crotchety old man with long-held yet incorrect opinions and a grudge [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > But it is YOUR attitude that sucks But how so? You might notice that when -I- tell someone that they are stupid, or have poor attitude or judgment, I say why, in more or less some detail. > and you that suck at driving. Why? Because I'm going to let you merge to my front? Because that space to my front I make available to all, merge impaired or speediot alike? > > Insisting drivers merge according to your specifications, and refusing > > to assist them in the safest possible manner is stupid. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > road at all, but since they're going to use it anyway, I want them > BEHIND me where they aren't interfering with my traffic flow. Ahhh... and there's the rub. You're a MFFY. > Hopefully if enough drivers take that attitude, those of the > merge-impaired persuasion will either get with the program or else give > up driving. Yeah, that's a realistic perspective. > > A good driver will obtain and maintain as much space as practical from > > such a driver, and never consider accomplishing that by reducing [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > care about the effects of his actions on other drivers, and thus justly > receives the name "a.shole." Perhaps, but I think all those who utilize the space I leave to my front would disagree, and the drivers to your rear where you force mergers in order to further your own travel (to no real advantage) might have a little "what an a.shole" perspective of you. > > What's the alternative? The driver is coming onto the highway anyway, > > and where...?! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Or perhaps they will finally decide to accelerate once they realize that > others aren't going to accomodate their poor, selfish driving. <ahem> > > The mere suggestion that variance of velocity is not a common > > occurrence on any highway is preposterous on its face, a blind person > > who has only been a passenger in a vehicle could tell you that. > > Hmm, guess I should have bothered to pop for that cruise control then, > seeing as I'm never able to use it. I have a feeling you use it when it is inadvisable and are reluctant to disengage it. > > The best drivers make allowances for the not-so-good drivers, and > > allow them to merge to their front, because that's the smart thing to > > do. > > Wrong. Wrong...?! That's quite the refutation. > > Becoming involved in a petty contest over the ROW is a stupid > > thing to do, and the only participants are the worst of drivers. > > It's not a contest at all. I have the legal right of way, and I'm not > yielding it because not yielding is the right thing to do. Gotta cite...? Or is that the opinion derived of your good and MFFY attitude and judgment? > There is no > "contest" whatsoever. I have right of way, merging driver does not. > Period, end of sentence. Poor attitude and judgment. > If everyone drove like you recommend, > eventually the right lane of the highway would become utterly unusable, > thus rendering up to 50% of any highway useless. What a waste of > resources! Then you add more lanes to a highway and the problem only > increases. Actually, if everyone drove like me there would be plenty of room for you to safely weave your way through us. > Yet again, you prove yourself unwilling to learn anything by reading > what is posted on this newsgroup, so why the f.ck are you here? <spit take> There isn't much posted on this group that isn't incorrect and/or derived of MFFY attitude and poor judgment. You ever see me posting about my trials and tribulations of negotiating the highways, in a semi, from border to border and sea to sea? That's because I don't have any. And that's not the result of ignorance or poor attitude or judgment. I was just over in DC and MD and VA and had no problems whatsoever operating a 4-wheeler at the SL in the right lane. What do you suppose you are doing wrong? ----- - gpsman > Cite one rear-end collision that occurred when both vehicles were > traveling at or near highway velocity in relatively free flowing > traffic, from any reputable source, from anytime, anywhere. Last night all I would have needed to do was brake and the trucker riding my a.s in the far right lane of the dan ryan (construction zone BTW) would have hit me. Are you so dumb as to think that there wouldn't be a need for the leading vehicle to brake? I couldn't stomach reading any more of your stupidity. On Aug 25, 3:48 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote: > In article <1188072273.797104.239...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, gpsman wrote: > > Cite one rear-end collision that occurred when both vehicles were [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > my a.s in the far right lane of the dan ryan (construction zone BTW) > would have hit me. Still haven't learned how to deal with a tailgating vehicle, huh? And still you have no crash to report. Thanks! > Are you so dumb as to think that there wouldn't be a > need for the leading vehicle to brake? If there is a need for the leading vehicle to brake, what else can they do?! > I couldn't stomach reading any more of your stupidity. Then why read any of it...? ----- - gpsman > On Aug 25, 3:48 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Still haven't learned how to deal with a tailgating vehicle, huh? I did the same thing I planned to last time... I slowed and then punched it back up to my previous leaving the trucker behind. > And still you have no crash to report. Thanks! I'm sorry, I won't sacrifice myself to prove a point to you. However, I have personally seen the carnage on the roads when others have been rear ended. >> Are you so dumb as to think that there wouldn't be a >> need for the leading vehicle to brake? > If there is a need for the leading vehicle to brake, what else can > they do?! Get hit. >> I couldn't stomach reading any more of your stupidity. > > Then why read any of it...? Good question. I should start the kill file again. >On Aug 24, 6:05 am, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver >(Hector Goldstein)" <drunk@the_wheel.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Too bad, that's the way it works and nothing can, or need be done >about it. Why do anything about it? I enjoy the fact that 110 morons die on US roads on a daily basis. You see, Mr. Darwin takes care of morons who do that kind of stupid stuff. While I think he's doing a good job, I wouldn't be bothered in the least if his efficiency increased. SignatureWe're all here because we're not all there. "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk@the_wheel.com> said in rec.autos.driving: >>On Aug 24, 6:05 am, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver >>(Hector Goldstein)" <drunk@the_wheel.com> wrote: >>> The honda driver didn't yield >>> right of way. >> >>The driver took the ROW, then it was theirs. Wow, GPSTroll is a complete MFFY and is advocating total anarchy on the roads. "If you want the ROW, just take it! f.ck everyone else, I am the most important driver on the road! Trucks deliver all the important goods in the entire country - without Truckers, the entire economy would COLLAPSE! So we deserve priority on the roads, and anytime we want the ROW it should immediately be given to us - we deserve it!" So GPSTroll trains Truckers, eh? You know, I think I have encountered some of his students. :) >>Too bad, that's the way it works and nothing can, or need be done >>about it. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >do that kind of stupid stuff. While I think he's doing a good job, I >wouldn't be bothered in the least if his efficiency increased. The only downside is the collateral damage to intelligent people who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I don't care how smart you are; if you're stuck at a red light and some Trucker comes barreling up behind you and smashes into your car, there's NOTHING you can reasonably do to avoid getting killed. Signature"It's little sh*ts like you that take my time away from my fiancee and loved ones. F*CK YOU." - Carl Rogers, 12/30/2006 Message-ID: <1167515577.811497.149300@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Scott in SoCal: > "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" > <drunk@the_wheel.com> said in rec.autos.driving: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Wow, GPSTroll is a complete MFFY and is advocating total anarchy on > the roads. Whoda thunk it??? ;) > "If you want the ROW, just take it! f.ck everyone else, I am the most > important driver on the road! Trucks deliver all the important goods > in the entire country - without Truckers, the entire economy would > COLLAPSE! So we deserve priority on the roads, and anytime we want the > ROW it should immediately be given to us - we deserve it!" Yep, got to get all those lead laced chinese made toys into the hands of the dullards of america (sic) and the anti-freeze laced food to the pets. > So GPSTroll trains Truckers, eh? You know, I think I have encountered > some of his students. :) I think we *all* have encountered a student or two of his. I think I saw one the other day tooling down I-95 with the brakes on his trailer locked up. Needless to say, I wound it up to as fast as the car would go to get around the stinking cloud of burned brake linings in post and in haste. > >>Too bad, that's the way it works and nothing can, or need be done > >>about it. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > comes barreling up behind you and smashes into your car, there's > NOTHING you can reasonably do to avoid getting killed. Keep an eye on the rear view mirror while stopped. If you see such a thing about to happen, either run the light to get out of the way (I'll admit that a ticket for RLR would be better than getting pancaked) or if no escape for the car, abandon ship - and then call the lawyer immediately. SignatureN ever S eeing A nything necromancer <55_sux@worldofnecromancer_nospam_noway.org> said in rec.autos.driving: >> The only downside is the collateral damage to intelligent people who >> just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I don't care [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >no escape for the car, abandon ship - and then call the lawyer >immediately. There are cars in front of you, so you can't just drive out of the way. How quickly can you unbuckle your seat belt, throw the transmission into neutral, set the parking brake, open the door, step outside, open the back door, unbuckle your infant from her safety seat, and run with her to safety? Signature"It's little sh*ts like you that take my time away from my fiancee and loved ones. F*CK YOU." - Carl Rogers, 12/30/2006 Message-ID: <1167515577.811497.149300@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> > necromancer <55_sux@worldofnecromancer_nospam_noway.org> said in > rec.autos.driving: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > There are cars in front of you, so you can't just drive out of the > way. Leave enough space so that you can see where the tires of the vehicle to your immediate front meet the pavement. That would probably only add 30-60 minutes to your commute, but it seems like it might possibly be worth it. > How quickly can you unbuckle your seat belt, throw the > transmission into neutral, set the parking brake, open the door, step > outside, open the back door, unbuckle your infant from her safety > seat, and run with her to safety? Evidently you have never found it of enough importance to establish your best or average times in that event, or you would have mentioned them. I wonder why they don't include it in the Olympics... ----- - gpsman > necromancer <55_sux@worldofnecromancer_nospam_noway.org> said in > rec.autos.driving: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > - Carl Rogers, 12/30/2006 > Message-ID: <1167515577.811497.149300@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> So rather than doing something, no matter how remote success may be, you will just sit there singing "que sera, sera"? :) Harry K Harry K <turnkey4099@hotmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: >> There are cars in front of you, so you can't just drive out of the >> way. How quickly can you unbuckle your seat belt, throw the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >So rather than doing something, no matter how remote success may be, >you will just sit there singing "que sera, sera"? :) Better to be inside the safety cage of the vehicle than to be half way out and get your leg chopped off or something. Signature"It's little sh*ts like you that take my time away from my fiancee and loved ones. F*CK YOU." - Carl Rogers, 12/30/2006 Message-ID: <1167515577.811497.149300@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> > Harry K <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > - Carl Rogers, 12/30/2006 > Message-ID: <1167515577.811497.149300@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Good point. In the scenario you posted, that stuff happens too fast to do much more than scream anyhow. ;) Harry K > "If you want the ROW, just take it! f.ck everyone else, I am the most > important driver on the road! Trucks deliver all the important goods [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > So GPSTroll trains Truckers, eh? You know, I think I have encountered > some of his students. :) I think I encountered one the other day. He was trying to make a forced lane change (he called it merge, but the lane that comes off the ramp keeps going) yelling threats at me that he was going to hit my car if I didn't give in to him. Yeah... like his unsignaled MFFYism plus threats are going to anything but strengthen my resolve. So dickhead moves his truck with in a couple inches of my sheet metal and then goes behind me. Of course riding my a.s... well until I hit daylight. a.shole then picks up a load at my employer. I really should talk to the director of distribution and see if his carrier can be done away with. On Aug 26, 8:18 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote: > I think I encountered one the other day. He was trying to make a forced > lane change (he called it merge, but the lane that comes off the ramp > keeps going) yelling threats at me that he was going to hit my car if I > didn't give in to him. Occam's Razor suggests you have exceptional hearing... but quite a bit after it first suggests that you're full of sh.t. > Yeah... like his unsignaled MFFYism plus threats > are going to anything but strengthen my resolve. You -are- quite the man. > a.shole then picks > up a load at my employer. How convenient. What's a engineer doing on the dock? > I really should talk to the director of > distribution and see if his carrier can be done away with. I think your employer is as imaginary as your event. ----- - gpsman > On Aug 26, 8:18 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > I think your employer is as imaginary as your event. Occam's razor would suggest that perhaps Brent works for a company much like the one I used to work for, where the number of employees was only two digits and the distance from the engineering department to the loading dock was rather small. The loading dock also doubled as the smoking/coffee break/BS with coworkers away from your desk area. nate > > On Aug 26, 8:18 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Occam's razor would suggest that perhaps Brent works for a company > much like the one I used to work for, That's why I call you two "twins"... It's almost as if... > where the number of employees > was only two digits and the distance from the engineering department > to the loading dock was rather small. The loading dock also doubled > as the smoking/coffee break/BS with coworkers away from your desk > area. Well sure. Your Razor would suggest Brent forgot all about these somewhat remarkable events and he wouldn't practically break a finger reporting them immediately. The only thing that lends any credibility to Brent's story is that it's missing the part where he tells the truck driver off and sends him away quivering in fear, tears and urine. Occam's Razor suggests that's just because Brent is too lazy and unimaginative to make his stories interesting, although the super- hearing power was a nice touch. ----- - gpsman >>>On Aug 26, 8:18 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) >>>wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > That's why I call you two "twins"... It's almost as if... We're the only two people in the country with engineering degrees that have worked for small companies? um, sure. >>where the number of employees >>was only two digits and the distance from the engineering department [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > it's missing the part where he tells the truck driver off and sends > him away quivering in fear, tears and urine. Why would one do that? Far better to simply call his employer and ask that that particular driver no longer service your company. Almost guaranteed to cause issues for the driver, while you don't actually have to ask them to discipline him in any way, simply relate the story when they ask why and let them take it from there. > Occam's Razor suggests that's just because Brent is too lazy and > unimaginative to make his stories interesting, although the super- > hearing power was a nice touch. > ----- > > - gpsman If you drive with your windows down, it doesn't require superhuman powers to hear what's going on in the car next to you, esp. at low speed. If another driver is *yelling* at you, it's pretty hard not to notice. But, of course, you knew that, and, as usual, you just can't help but get a dig in at Brent because you don't like him. Never mind that the ratio of the number of his posts presenting factual information to the number of your posts presenting same varies day to day between "a shitload" and "asymptotically approaching infinity." nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel Nate Nagel <njnagel@roosters.net> said in rec.autos.driving: >> That's why I call you two "twins"... It's almost as if... > >We're the only two people in the country with engineering degrees that >have worked for small companies? um, sure. My company is so small it doesn't even HAVE a loading dock. I guess that makes us triplets. :) Signature"It's little sh*ts like you that take my time away from my fiancee and loved ones. F*CK YOU." - Carl Rogers, 12/30/2006 Message-ID: <1167515577.811497.149300@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> > Occam's razor would suggest that perhaps Brent works for a company > much like the one I used to work for, where the number of employees > was only two digits and the distance from the engineering department > to the loading dock was rather small. The loading dock also doubled > as the smoking/coffee break/BS with coworkers away from your desk > area. It is a rather small distance between engineering and distribution as the crow flies. However the company isn't that small. It is just the habbit of companies that put engineering out back. There's a nice view of the distribution dock from the window. At one employer I sat in what *used* to be the distribution wearhouse area. It had been converted to office space. The remaining dock was so close the sound of the idling trucks was annoying. At another the machine shop was next to the dock area with the window looking out on to that area. The door between the two was usually left open. The drill press and the shipping and recieving desk were about 5 feet apart. Now that was a company in the double digits.... On Aug 29, 6:47 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote: > In article <1188421456.177787.323...@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>, N8N wrote: > > Occam's razor would suggest that perhaps Brent works for a company [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > as the smoking/coffee break/BS with coworkers away from your desk > > area. People familiar with docks do not refer to them as "loading" docks. It's just "the dock". Esp. at small companies where the dock must serve both shipping and receiving. > There's a nice view > of the distribution dock from the window. People familiar with docks do not refer to them as "distribution" docks. It's just "the dock". Esp. at small companies where the docks must serve both shipping and receiving. > At one employer I sat in what *used* to be the distribution wearhouse > area. People familiar with a warehouse do not refer to it as the "distribution" warehouse. It's just "the warehouse". Esp. at small companies where the warehouse must serve both shipping and receiving. This has all been "scientifically proven"... <snicker> ----- - gpsman >gpsman wrote: > >>On Aug 24, 6:05 am, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Wow, GPSTroll is a complete MFFY and is advocating total anarchy on > the roads. That is sooo cute... but the identification of a condition is not advocacy. > "If you want the ROW, just take it! f.ck everyone else, I am the most > important driver on the road! Trucks deliver all the important goods > in the entire country - without Truckers, the entire economy would > COLLAPSE! So we deserve priority on the roads, and anytime we want the > ROW it should immediately be given to us - we deserve it!" That's quite the extrapolation as well. > So GPSTroll trains Truckers, eh? You know, I think I have encountered > some of his students. :) Graduates, possibly; students, no. > if you're stuck at a red light and some Trucker > comes barreling up behind you and smashes into your car, there's > NOTHING you can reasonably do to avoid getting killed. That would be quite the challenge after the smash, wouldn't it, Captain Obvious...? Has anybody ever told you that you are just -adorable- when you try to think? ----- - gpsman Alexander Rogge <a_rogge@yahoo.com> said in rec.autos.driving: > I was going 75 when I noticed this Honda driver approaching the >roadway from a side street on my right. I ended up >swerving around the Honda because the Sloth then stepped on the brakes >and tried to stop. Hold on a minute! You mean you were speeding, and suddenly a vehicle pulled out in front of you from a side street, and YOU DIDN'T CRASH?!?!?! Carl Troller says that's impossible!! >Since there was no traffic behind me, why didn't the >Sloth wait for me to pass instead of running the stop sign? MFFY! I would love to understand why people do this. What are they thinking? Do they not see you coming? Do the see you coming but misjudge your speed, assuming everyone is a pathetic Sloth likem they are? Or are they simply arrogant MFFYs, expecting you to slow down for them and let them in anytime they want? One time a MFFY c.nt pulled out of a shopping center driveway directly in front of me. It was dark out, so I briefly lit her up with my flash-to-pass high beams (much more effective than a horn at night time) so that she would be aware of my presence and (hopefully) not change lanes in front of me as I was in the process of swerving around her Sloth a.s. So what does this arrogant c.nt do the moment I am past her? SHE TURNS ON HER BRIGHTS! It's this kind of behavior that makes people want to pull over and beat the sh.t out of somebody with a tire iron. Signature"It's little sh*ts like you that take my time away from my fiancee and loved ones. F*CK YOU." - Carl Rogers, 12/30/2006 Message-ID: <1167515577.811497.149300@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> >Alexander Rogge <a_rogge@yahoo.com> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >It's this kind of behavior that makes people want to pull over and >beat the sh.t out of somebody with a tire iron. Fortunately, every so often someone pulls a "falling down", and we get to read about another road rage 'victim'. Bwahahaha! SignatureWe're all here because we're not all there. Scott in SoCal: > Alexander Rogge <a_rogge@yahoo.com> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Carl Troller says that's impossible!! Carl "Wifey," Troller also thinks it is impossible for us to identify him when he spews from those anonymous (sic) re-mailers that he is inclined to use. > >Since there was no traffic behind me, why didn't the > >Sloth wait for me to pass instead of running the stop sign? MFFY! > > I would love to understand why people do this. What are they thinking? More like what are they thinking *with?* > Do they not see you coming? Do the see you coming but misjudge your > speed, assuming everyone is a pathetic Sloth likem they are? Or are You are like one of those invisible trucks that lurk on the roads.... > they simply arrogant MFFYs, expecting you to slow down for them and > let them in anytime they want? Or that. ;) > One time a MFFY c.nt pulled out of a shopping center driveway directly > in front of me. It was dark out, so I briefly lit her up with my [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > her Sloth a.s. So what does this arrogant c.nt do the moment I am past > her? SHE TURNS ON HER BRIGHTS! Need I say it: LADY DRIVEN!!! > It's this kind of behavior that makes people want to pull over and > beat the sh.t out of somebody with a tire iron. Tire irons are nice, but something like the Easton Stealth Comp CNT 2008 BCN16 (-10) (see: http://tinyurl.com/yqdk5l) is much, much more effective.... SignatureI diots N umbskulls & S hitheads > One time a MFFY c.nt pulled out of a shopping center driveway directly > in front of me. OMG! > It was dark out, so I briefly lit her up with my > flash-to-pass high beams (much more effective than a horn at night > time) so that she would be aware of my presence and (hopefully) not > change lanes in front of me as I was in the process of swerving around > her Sloth a.s. So what does this arrogant c.nt do the moment I am past > her? SHE TURNS ON HER BRIGHTS! O M G ! ! ! > It's this kind of behavior that makes people want to pull over and > beat the sh.t out of somebody with a tire iron. Then you'll understand when a stranger pulls over and comes at you as you're walking to lunch, I suppose... ----- - gpsman |
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