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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / August 2007Another Geezer Driver Plows Into Crowd - 6 dead 19 injured - Killer RELEASED of course
Another legacy of the infamous Russell Weller case. Geezer drivers know nothing will be done to them no matter how many they kill with their vehicle. http://www.miamiherald.com/news/world/AP/story/215278.html 6 in wedding party dead in truck crash Posted on Sun, Aug. 26, 2007 VANCOUVER, British Columbia -- A pickup truck plowed through a crowd leaving a pre-wedding celebration in western Canada, killing six people and injuring 19, police said Saturday. The 71-year-old driver of a truck lost control and ran into 25 to 30 people who were walking along a rural road toward him, police in Abbotsford, British Columbia, said. The victims had been at the bride's parents' house and were heading to another home, making their way along an unlit road lined with parked cars, according to police and a neighbor. Jagdish Gill, whose daughter is a friend of the bride, said the group was taking part in a traditional Indian procession. "They had drums in the front," Gill said. "They were going to have a van in the front, a blinking van, but it got there a little late." Neither the bride nor the groom was injured, she said, and the wedding will go ahead on Sunday as scheduled, though on a smaller scale. The driver, who is in shock, was questioned and released, Constable Casey Vinet said. He said neither alcohol nor drugs were factors. The truck was taken for a mechanical inspection. That's what you get when you allow incompetent people to drive. By the way, I didn't bother to read your post, as they are usually reasonably stupid, but I'm curious what type of driving history this individual had before the incident. >Another legacy of the infamous Russell Weller case. Geezer drivers know >nothing will be done to them no matter how many they kill with their [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >Casey Vinet said. He said neither alcohol nor drugs were factors. The >truck was taken for a mechanical inspection.  SignatureWe're all here because we're not all there. > That's what you get when you allow incompetent people to drive. > > By the way, I didn't bother to read your post, as they are usually > reasonably stupid, but I'm curious what type of driving history this > individual had before the incident. The article didn't talk about his history but i don't care anyway. If the law determines he was at fault for the death of 6 people, he should be locked up forever period. I'm no coddler. >> That's what you get when you allow incompetent people to drive. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >the law determines he was at fault for the death of 6 people, he should >be locked up forever period. I'm no coddler. Wow. Has anyone ever told you that you're an idiot? An intelligent individual would be concerned about preventing incidents like these from occurring. Only a moron would believe that strict prison sentences would have a positive impact in the prevention of such incidents. It is truly a sad state of affairs for Americans that you are a representative of the educational system. No wonder the anglosphere is deteriorating. SignatureWe're all here because we're not all there. >>> That's what you get when you allow incompetent people to drive. >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > representative of the educational system. No wonder the anglosphere is > deteriorating. There's a big difference in working in the educational system and being "a representative of the educational system." SignatureNotan >>>> That's what you get when you allow incompetent people to drive. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >There's a big difference in working in the educational system and being >"a representative of the educational system." I never implied that SADDAM was working in the educational system, only that it was a very sad example of what the system produces. When I see the "quality" of said product, it makes it easier for me to deal with the probably that the anglo's days, and more appropriately, the "American's" days, are numbered. SignatureWe're all here because we're not all there. > An intelligent individual would be concerned about preventing > incidents like these from occurring. Only a moron would believe that > strict prison sentences would have a positive impact in the prevention > of such incidents. Only an idiot and a criminal coddler like you thinks prison time does NOT deter geezers from driving recklessly. Get help, please. Geezers with impeccable LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC credentials will be allowed to motor around, anywhere they like. Geezers with conservative voting records, and, believe me, they know who and when to the ultimate degree, will be denied access to the nations roadways as soon as HRH Hillary takes over. On Aug 26, 10:01 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > An intelligent individual would be concerned about preventing > > incidents like these from occurring. Only a moron would believe that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Only an idiot and a criminal coddler like you thinks prison time does > NOT deter geezers from driving recklessly. Get help, please. Yeah, those old geezers are clearly thinking about their actions when they're behind the wheel, weighing the consequences. Must be thinking about those aspects so much they have no cognitive capacity left over to handle the actual task of driving. You really think people with judgment too poor to realize they aren't fit to drive will have the judgment to think they'll face consequences for an outcome they are in denial will ever occur? Wake up and smell the blue hair, these geezers are in denial that they can't drive. The whole problem is that their brains are a few french fries short of a Happy Meal, a condition with which you should be intimately familiar. Bo Raxo >> An intelligent individual would be concerned about preventing >> incidents like these from occurring. Only a moron would believe that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Only an idiot and a criminal coddler like you thinks prison time does >NOT deter geezers from driving recklessly. Get help, please. If they aren't cognitive to understand they shouldn't be driving, what makes your dumb a.s think they'll be aware of the "penalties" they'll receive for their failures? You really should try to think about this stuff before you post; you won't look so retarded that way. SignatureWe're all here because we're not all there. >Another legacy of the infamous Russell Weller case. Geezer drivers know >nothing will be done to them no matter how many they kill with their [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >people who were walking along a rural road toward him, police in >Abbotsford, British Columbia, said. Those old geezers VOTE, reliably, and they now are and will remain a rather LARGE segment of the population. NO politician will DARE take away their big white Lincolns and Caddys. I note that you got the article from the Miami Herald. The political and economic clout of geezers is much stronger in Florida than in Canada or the rest of the USA. Geezers make up a very large proportion of the population, cast a VERY large percentage of votes, contribute a VERY large amount of money to political candates they like and spend a HUGE amount of money on homes, property and "services". In short, someone who's pretty much blind and silly with Altzheimers can STILL get their licence renewed. Eye test ? Nevermind ... you just have to bring a note from an "eye doctor" certifying that you can see. No doubt an industry has developed around providing such notes to geezers. "Se ! I, doctor Flye By Knight, certify that Sally Centarian meets the state guidelines for visual and auditory acuity" ... In short, if you drive into Florida, watch yer a.s ... because the residents won't, and likely CAN'T. >>Another legacy of the infamous Russell Weller case. Geezer drivers know >>nothing will be done to them no matter how many they kill with their [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > In short, if you drive into Florida, watch yer a.s ... > because the residents won't, and likely CAN'T. That's representative of my few driving experiences in the state, and your wisdom is very well delivered. Fortunately that wisdom will be lost on the retards in the group. =)) SignatureWe're all here because we're not all there. Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): << reply limited to r.a.d >> > That's representative of my few driving experiences in the state, and > your wisdom is very well delivered. Agreed. Driving in FL is an adventure, to say the least. If you think Orlando is bad, try Tampa.... > Fortunately that wisdom will be lost on the retards in the group. =)) Oh, well, maybe the retards will drive merily into FL and become another statistic in Darwin's trophy case. I can see the headline now in the Tampa newspapers: "Idiot from Colorado drives off pier that was once part of the Sunshine Skyway Bridge! Maniacal driver said to be heard screaming, 'you can never drive too slow!' as car plunges into bay." SignatureN exus of S tupid A ssholes >>>Another legacy of the infamous Russell Weller case. Geezer drivers know >>>nothing will be done to them no matter how many they kill with their [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >That's representative of my few driving experiences in the state, and >your wisdom is very well delivered. Stop signs/lights ... those kinds of things, mere "suggestions" in Florida - assuming the 99-year-old behind the wheel can even SEE the things, or isn't so buzzed on 19 different meds that they put the average OzFest attendee to shame. >Fortunately that wisdom will be lost on the retards in the group. =)) As the proportion of VERY elderly increase in ALL states, a rapid trend at this point, even the "retards" WILL eventually get the point - likely in the form of a big white Cadillac driving up their tailpipe. I've got nothing against 104-year-olds driving - BUT they've got to be CAPABLE. A centarian of my aquaintence was commonly seen buzzing around town in his little red sports car right up until he finally croaked at age 104. Thing is, HE was SHARP - good eyes, good hearing, good reflexes few meds, no senility. I also know 60-year-olds who are already such physical and mental wrecks that they shouldn't come NEAR the wheel. Luck of the genetic lottery insofar as the individuals go - but it's the STATES job to sort 'em out and deal with the ones who've become unfit to drive. Dealing with the political and economic clout of that age group IS difficult however. In the nearer term, we're probably gonna see a lot more "Old Folks Mass Transit" - small busses & trams - so the non-drivers can still get where they need to go. Longer term, self-driving cars are not THAT far off anymore ... <snip> >>That's representative of my few driving experiences in the state, and >>your wisdom is very well delivered. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > SEE the things, or isn't so buzzed on 19 different meds that they > put the average OzFest attendee to shame. I like the analogy. :-) >>Fortunately that wisdom will be lost on the retards in the group. =)) > > As the proportion of VERY elderly increase in ALL states, > a rapid trend at this point, even the "retards" WILL > eventually get the point - likely in the form of a big white > Cadillac driving up their tailpipe. We've got that here, too. Seems like a large number of retirees like the cooler weather experience in the foothills of this region. > I've got nothing against 104-year-olds driving - BUT they've > got to be CAPABLE. A centarian of my aquaintence was commonly [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > physical and mental wrecks that they shouldn't come NEAR > the wheel. Hell, I know 40 year olds that shouldn't come near the wheel. I also know a particular 85 year old who is probably one of the best drivers I've met. She's never had an accident, and there's been times when I've tried to keep up with her as she zips along at 20-30mph over the limit. :-) > Luck of the genetic lottery insofar as the individuals go - > but it's the STATES job to sort 'em out and deal with the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > non-drivers can still get where they need to go. Longer > term, self-driving cars are not THAT far off anymore ... If the populace were truly interested in reducing traffic fatalities, they'd offer written and driven exams at EVERY license renewal. That they don't just shows how little the government is concerned about traffic safety. SignatureWe're all here because we're not all there. ><snip> >>>That's representative of my few driving experiences in the state, and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >I like the analogy. :-) Alas, it's true. Todays elderly are hyper-medicated. Many spend their days going from doctor to doctor ... none of which pay attention to what the OTHER doctors have prescribed. At the end of the week, granny Pillhead has a huge stash of uppers, downers, tranqs, in-betweens, psychoactives and stuff the old amerindian shamans wished they'd had. Then granny forgets how much of which ones to take when - and what ones not to mix them with. THEN she goes out for a nice drive. Maybe she'll wind up in Vancouver, maybe she and her Caddy will wind up in your front seat. Luck of the draw. This is the same generation that despised and persecuted the Deadhead stoners with their psychedelic VW micro-busses. Frankly, the Deadheads were much better drivers .... at least they KNEW they were stoned out of their minds. It would be a lot cheaper to follow Huxleys advice ... just hand out "Soma" at thirty-nine cents a pill :-) >>>Fortunately that wisdom will be lost on the retards in the group. =)) >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >We've got that here, too. Seems like a large number of retirees like >the cooler weather experience in the foothills of this region. Everywhere from southern Tennessee down has experienced a huge migration of elderly yankees. Arizona, Nevada and Florida still absorb the bulk, but Georgia and Arkansas aren't far behind. That corner where TN/NC/SC/GA come together is getting a double-dose now - retiring yankees AND retirees coming up from Florida looking for a touch of "real winter". Find some demographics on Blairsville GA. Thing is, the NATIONAL demographic is skewing strongly towards an elderly population. It not only threatens to topple the Social Security pyramid scheme but also clogs hospitals and doctors offices and makes the roads far more dangerous. "Mexican" babies may eventually even things out again ... but are they gonna be willing to give half their salaries to support old gringos ? >> I've got nothing against 104-year-olds driving - BUT they've >> got to be CAPABLE. A centarian of my aquaintence was commonly [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Hell, I know 40 year olds that shouldn't come near the wheel. Well ... that's usually self-inflicted. Or inflicted by doctors. The modern trend towards "happy pills" - anti-depressants and anti-anxiety drugs of every kind so you'll be as happy as those people on TV - has messed-up a LOT of folks, mostly women. The drugs can leave them confused, aggressive, sleepy, wired, disoriented, distracted, delusional or spaced-out depending on how they react with the individuals biochemistry. Luckily Edgar Allen Poe didn't have that junk - or we'd have gotten "The Cheerful Little Bluebird" instead of "The Raven". Picasso would never have had a "blue period", Rodin would have sculpted "Staring Out The Window" instead of "The Thinker" and "Ahab" would have made friends with the whale :-) >I also know a particular 85 year old who is probably one of the best >drivers I've met. She's never had an accident, and there's been times [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >they don't just shows how little the government is concerned about >traffic safety. A written mini-exam ... something that can be done in a minute or two ... wouldn't be a terrible thing. It can be disguised as a refresher on traffic signs and very basic rules, but it would REALLY be a test for "senility" (natural or drug-induced). I don't think a physical driving test at each renewal is practical. It would require hiring a LOT of inspectors and, truthfully, a lot of people freeze-up when someone is evaluating their driving ability. SOME sort of brief test starting at age 65 and repeated every three to five years wouldn't be a terrible burden though. Just have 'em drive a generous circle of cones or loop through parking-lot lanes and then stop at a stop sign. If they can't - they ought not be on the highway. Just go to your local supermarket or mall and WATCH the people navigate the parking lot. A suprising number can't. They'll go north on the southbound section, stop randomly or almost (or not 'almost') hit parked cars, people ... and that's all at five miles an hour. Scary ! With luck, in ten or twelve years you'll be able to get in your car and say "Drive me to the Quick-e-Mart" and it will do so flawlessly. THAT will solve a LOT of sticky problems ! > Luckily Edgar Allen Poe didn't have that junk - or we'd > have gotten "The Cheerful Little Bluebird" instead of > "The Raven". Picasso would never have had a "blue period", > Rodin would have sculpted "Staring Out The Window" instead > of "The Thinker" and "Ahab" would have made friends with > the whale :-) That gets a standing ovation!!! > A written mini-exam ... something that can be done > in a minute or two ... wouldn't be a terrible thing. > It can be disguised as a refresher on traffic signs > and very basic rules, but it would REALLY be a test > for "senility" (natural or drug-induced). Eh, not a bad start, but I see so many geezers who physically just can't drive - they can't even turn their heads to the side to see what's there. The mind might be find, but they move at the speed of a glacier. > I don't think a physical driving test at each renewal > is practical. It would require hiring a LOT of inspectors [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > parking-lot lanes and then stop at a stop sign. If they > can't - they ought not be on the highway. We had those driving simulators in high school - sit in the chair, 20 or 30 at a time, watch the screen, operate the controls as needed. The computer spit out a score. What would it cost to put one of those in the parking lot of every DMV, a couple of hundred thou? And another couple of hundred thou a year to staff it? Schedule at least the geezers, if not all drivers, to go through the thing at renewal. If you flunk, then you put then in a real car with a real inspector. You could run them through in groups of 25 each, three sets an hour, 8 hours a day, that's 600 people per day per DMV office. The savings to society in reduced accidents would make it pay for itself in the big picture, and I can think of worse uses for my tax dollars. > Just go to your local supermarket or mall and WATCH the > people navigate the parking lot. A suprising number can't. > They'll go north on the southbound section, stop randomly > or almost (or not 'almost') hit parked cars, people ... > and that's all at five miles an hour. Scary ! Try riding a motorcycle through that supermarket lot. The geezers - it's always geezers - randomly pull out of parking spots or drive through a paired set of empty spots from one side to the other, with the theory that if they don't look, they won't see you, and if they don't see you, then it's not their fault if they hit you. It's a crazy theory. I can't tell you how many times some tiny gnome in a large, old, very clean large American car has almost run me down, and they say - every time - "I didn't see you." I ask them if their mirrors are defective. No? I ask them if I'm invisible. No? Then, you mean, you didn't see me because you didn't look? Oh, well, maybe then the answer is - you should have been looking where you were going. > With luck, in ten or twelve years you'll be able to get > in your car and say "Drive me to the Quick-e-Mart" and > it will do so flawlessly. THAT will solve a LOT of > sticky problems ! You know the lawyers will screw that up - imagine the lawsuits when you ask it to go to the Qwik-E-Mart, it takes you to the Qwik-E-Lube, and some fool ends up ingesting a Squishy full of 5W-40. Bo Raxo >> Luckily Edgar Allen Poe didn't have that junk - or we'd >> have gotten "The Cheerful Little Bluebird" instead of [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >to society in reduced accidents would make it pay for itself in the big >picture, and I can think of worse uses for my tax dollars. Two problems : Firstly, the current crop of geezers aren't tech savvy. A simulator would confuse them horribly. Secondly, simulators - affordable ones - STILL aren't enough like real driving to be a fair test. >> Just go to your local supermarket or mall and WATCH the >> people navigate the parking lot. A suprising number can't. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Oh, well, maybe then the answer is - you should have been looking where you >were going. I *do* ride motorcycles, they're my primary transportation, so I know all about parking lots - more dangerous than the interstates. However, I also know that people see what they're LOOKING FOR. They're looking for a big box with wheels on it, not a little motorcycle. Consequently, they look but they don't see. Human vision is "perception", filtered through zillions of neural nets, not a security camera. If the nets aren't primed to see anything but big rolling boxes then they ain't gonna SEE anything but big rolling boxes (unless YOU make an effort). Stage magicians rely on these peculiarities of perception so they can do one thing while the audience is looking at or for something else. Good for them, bad for riders, peds and bicyclists. >> With luck, in ten or twelve years you'll be able to get >> in your car and say "Drive me to the Quick-e-Mart" and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >it to go to the Qwik-E-Mart, it takes you to the Qwik-E-Lube, and some fool >ends up ingesting a Squishy full of 5W-40. Shakespears suggestion about lawyers comes to mind ... long overdue :-) Still, based on the last two DARPA competitions for autonomous vehicles, expect self-driving cars within a 10-15 year window. Some of the newer cars already have auto-braking, but the e-IQ to navigate a pothole & 18-wheeler-infested highway is only now emerging. >That corner where TN/NC/SC/GA come > together is getting a double-dose now - retiring yankees > AND retirees coming up from Florida looking for a touch > of "real winter". Wow, you guessed where I live. =)) SignatureBeauty is in the eye of the beer holder. B1ackwater: > Everywhere from southern Tennessee down has experienced a > huge migration of elderly yankees. Arizona, Nevada and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > AND retirees coming up from Florida looking for a touch > of "real winter". Find some demographics on Blairsville GA. Don't I know it. I'm 30 miles north of the FL line on IH95 and you should see the housing development that is going up along the corridor in the last couple of years (that coupled with IH95 being widened from the FL line to the SC line). The only reason I can fugure for it is retirees either fleeing FL or coming here instead of going to FL to retire, because there sure as hell isn't any industry (or an infulx of non-service related jobs) moving in around here (except for maybe the Port of Brunswick). > B1ackwater: >> Everywhere from southern Tennessee down has experienced a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >non-service related jobs) moving in around here (except for maybe the >Port of Brunswick). Earlier tonight I was speaking with a developer who's main areas are the corners B1ackwater wrote about. He's knocking down million$$$ off those guys, and he said he can't keep up with the demand. :-/ Indeed, my father bought an acre and a half in the area at $15,000 about 10 years ago. The two adjacent lots, of roughly the same size, just sold for $100,000+ each, and that's undeveloped property. At least his lot is the best of the three, as his looks down on the others. =)) SignatureBeauty is in the eye of the beer holder. Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): << reply limited to r.a.d >> > > B1ackwater: > >> Everywhere from southern Tennessee down has experienced a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > the corners B1ackwater wrote about. He's knocking down million$$$ off > those guys, and he said he can't keep up with the demand. :-/ I can believe it. Even out in the swamps in Sterling, along GA99, there are housing developments going up in the middle of nowhere. Some farmers are really cashing in..... > Indeed, my father bought an acre and a half in the area at $15,000 > about 10 years ago. The two adjacent lots, of roughly the same size, > just sold for $100,000+ each, and that's undeveloped property. At > least his lot is the best of the three, as his looks down on the > others. =)) Your father is sitting on a gold mine. ;-P Every so often, I'll see and advertisement for lots or acerage in places like Waynesville or Thallmann or Nahunta that seem cheap (like $5000 or so an acre) and I keep asking myself if I should buy a plot or two...... SignatureC onsortium of I mbeciles & A ssholes >Your father is sitting on a gold mine. ;-P Every so often, I'll see and >advertisement for lots or acerage in places like Waynesville or >Thallmann or Nahunta that seem cheap (like $5000 or so an acre) and I >keep asking myself if I should buy a plot or two...... If I were into speculations of that nature, I would strongly consider it, particularly if you can sit on it for 10 years or so. Signature"Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS" brags of it's homosexuallity: the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie. : http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en "Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS" brags of it's ability to operate a vehicle: I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash. : http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/a376114ee8a61824?hl=en On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 00:18:37 -0400, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote: >> B1ackwater: >>> Everywhere from southern Tennessee down has experienced a [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >least his lot is the best of the three, as his looks down on the >others. =)) Yep, that "five-corners" area is HOT. No real-estate slump around there. Where Alabama, Georgia, Tenn, NC & SC sort-of come together is Retirement Heaven, or WAS anyhow ... > Yep, that "five-corners" area is HOT. No real-estate > slump around there. > > Where Alabama, Georgia, Tenn, NC & SC sort-of come together > is Retirement Heaven, or WAS anyhow ... It still is a retirement haven. :-/ Signature"Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS" brags of it's homosexuallity: the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie. : http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en "Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS" brags of it's ability to operate a vehicle: I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash. : http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/a376114ee8a61824?hl=en > B1ackwater: >> Everywhere from southern Tennessee down has experienced a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >non-service related jobs) moving in around here (except for maybe the >Port of Brunswick). I get down that corridor fairly often. I think the issue is the terrible property taxes and "impact fees" in Florida. The new governor SAID he'd fix it ... but didn't. Local governments still waste money by the oceanfulls on kickback projects and lining the pockets of the already-rich and show no inclination to change their ways. Won't be long before the peasants show up at city hall with torches and farm implements ... :-) So, Georgia, MS, 'Bama, Arkansas and such are a LOT easier on the retirement fund. East Texas ought to be kind of nice too but seems to get overlooked - low rolling grassy landscape, OK temperatures. Wouldn't want to live within 30 miles of Brunswick though, the *STINK* from the papermills - YIKES !!!!! > Those old geezers VOTE, reliably, and they now are and > will remain a rather LARGE segment of the population. > NO politician will DARE take away their big white > Lincolns and Caddys. I didn't say geezers should automatically lose their license when they hit a certain age. But they should be held to the same standard as young people and that means there should be severe consequences if their bad driving kills someone. But as i said earlier, the Russell Weller case proves that is not so. >> Those old geezers VOTE, reliably, and they now are and >> will remain a rather LARGE segment of the population. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >driving kills someone. But as i said earlier, the Russell Weller case >proves that is not so. One of these days you'll learn the meaning of the term "intent." Until then, rant on, loser! =)) SignatureWe're all here because we're not all there. >> Those old geezers VOTE, reliably, and they now are and >> will remain a rather LARGE segment of the population. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >driving kills someone. But as i said earlier, the Russell Weller case >proves that is not so. They should be held to *A* standard ... one that's deemed "adequate". Almost all young people can meet such a standard, it just starts to get harder once you're 65 or so. The driving experience (and greater conservatism) of older folks are positives and allow "The Standard" to be set a bit lower overall. 16-year- olds only know one throttle position - wide open - but their superior reflexes mostly compensate for their driving habits. The problem is in states like Florida where the new tighter standard came WITH a loophole the mostly-blind could use to circumvent the rules. On Aug 26, 8:27 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Another legacy of the infamous Russell Weller case. Geezer drivers know > nothing will be done to them no matter how many they kill with their [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Casey Vinet said. He said neither alcohol nor drugs were factors. The > truck was taken for a mechanical inspection. Maybe there's some small fault to be found in putting a crowd of thirty people - including infants - in the middle of an unlit road, at night. Traditions are nice and all, but common sense should prevail. Seldom does, but it should. Bo Raxo -- "The course of true love never did run smooth." Shakespeare, A Midsummer's Night Dream, Act I Scene I |
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