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Carl Rogers - 10 Sep 2007 02:23 GMT
Hi All,

Apparently, there have been too many pseudonyms attacking me recently.  Fact
is, my style of road-enthusiasm is proprietary and unnerves some.  Others
enjoy the Worldwide Highway Library.  Thanks to that group!

These days, I'm often defending what is written against those whose
point-of-view are what I consider too stubborn.  Some have decided to attack
my personal life.  I no longer find MTR and RAD a useful medium, and if one
don't follow the consensus of active posters you dig yourself into a hole
that just gets worse.  And personal.

I'm the type of my person who writes on roads in skillsets I possess, using
viewpoints that come naturally in this study.  I don't attack unless
provoked.  It's not my intent to harm others; it appears the culture here
though is not conducive to the success of the Worldwide Highway Library.
Thing is, I'm provoked way too much in MTR and RAD.  It's not fulfilling.
You cannot rationalise w/ irrational people.  I've tried.

It's been great to hear and read information from people like the Scott
Kozels, Ryan Ws, Mukades Freeway Jims.  But this is balanced w/ absolute
nutcases like Sherman Cahals, Charles Slaters, Rich Piehls, etc. who insist
that one's contributions follow what they perceive as correct. Scott en
Aztlán has been personally cyber-stalking me for months, uncovering
information about my education and reference.  All this because I wouldn't
tape m camera to a dashboard.  He later uses these finding to make unfounded
personal attacks.  Charles Slater has set up a blog completely to demean my
personal character (
http://theexperience1.ottoyamamoto.net/index.php?cat=7 ).  Sherman abused
Wikipedia because by calling me a "spammer" and use vague criteria to back
it up.  These are people who are just f.cking lunatics.  Screw them.

I won't change for them, nor will the site.  At the same time, picture
yourself in my situation and having people harangue you almost every other
post you do.  They find pseudonyms to carry out their personal motives.  It
gets downright creepy after awhile.  It really affects psyche, and is not
healthy.  Thing is, those creeps enjoy doing it.

For those who have stuck around, and contribute to the 50,000+ hits per
month, thank you!  I'll be moving the remainder of the China and Japan
photos to the RSS photo and video feeds of the Worldwide Highway Library:

http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/vwwh-rss.xml (Videos)
http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/pwwh-rss.xml (Photos)

I understand part of my issue here is that I won't change my site based on
input.  This is a public venue, and feedback is public.  When this turns
into personal attacks that involve cyber-stalking and personally-defaming
blogs, this is the vitaology I want no part of.

I do welcome feedback (postmaster at calrog dot com) at anytime.  The creep
filter is turned on, however.

Cheers,

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Sherman L. Cahal - 10 Sep 2007 02:35 GMT
Sherman abused
> Wikipedia because by calling me a "spammer" and use vague criteria to back
> it up.  These are people who are just f.cking lunatics.  Screw them.

Actually, an entire group was reverting your edits, since you spammed
Wikipedia with your links at every opportunity --

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-09-27_External
_Link_Discrimination


The fact that you were using Wikipedia as a platform to spam your
site, and using multiple aliases and IP addresses, only heightened the
fact that you were there not to contribute, but to spam your web-site.
You had several accounts blocked, which does not come to anyone's
surprise.
Richard - 10 Sep 2007 02:41 GMT
Interesting reading there.
Scott in SoCal - 10 Sep 2007 07:49 GMT
"Sherman L. Cahal" <shermancahal@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving:

>Sherman abused
>> Wikipedia because by calling me a "spammer" and use vague criteria to back
>> it up.  These are people who are just f.cking lunatics.  Screw them.

Actually, they are simply a private web site acting according to their
policies. Funny how Carl can't handle "parallel perceptions" very well
when he's the one on the receiving end. ;)

>Actually, an entire group was reverting your edits, since you spammed
>Wikipedia with your links at every opportunity --
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>site, and using multiple aliases and IP addresses, only heightened the
>fact that you were there not to contribute, but to spam your web-site.

Kinda like how he treats USENET. :)
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My Land of Misery - 10 Sep 2007 03:35 GMT
> Hi All,
>
[quoted text clipped - 61 lines]
> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/calrog
> ********

Hmmm...my absence in your list above makes me wonder whether I dodged
a bullet or ate one. ;)  Probably dodged since I can still view the
site.

Terminology arguments aside (you've seen a bit of my feedback at
times), the site does provide a lot of choices for viewing.  Some of
the places you show in the photos most of us can only dream of
budgeting $ and time to visit.

That said, I've also found the Slaters and Piehls helpful in getting
my site off the ground with helpful tips and contributions.  For
example, a Piehl contribution (through a decent deal) has made my
digital photography on the road much less a crapshoot than before.
<duck>  Good thing you can't view the Inbox for my e-mail
provider...it would tempt you to move Mukade to the other list. ;)

I for one can't realistically expect you to change your site...the
size of it alone would make make the suggested changes a major
undertaking.  I found your photo of I-70 in the Glenwood Canyon area
with the term "elevation tier."  Catchy!

BTW...the average Joe would consider anyone involved in our type of
hobby (roads) a f***ing lunatic.

Regards...GR Van of My Land of Misery
Scott in SoCal - 10 Sep 2007 15:17 GMT
My Land of Misery <grvan@netzero.net> said in misc.transport.road:

>> Hi All,
>>
>> Apparently, there have been too many pseudonyms attacking me recently.

Now this is classic Cal-El.

He posts some of his innacurate inanities, a couple of new people
slice him to ribbons on his mistakes, and in his "parallel perception"
those posters MUST be his existing "enemies" using new pseudonyms. The
fact that the group of people whom he irritates might actually be
expanding is beyond the realm of possibility, I guess.

>> Scott en
>> Aztlán has been personally cyber-stalking me for months, uncovering
>> information about my education and reference.  

Your memory is faulty, Cal-El. It was another poster who discovered
your hilarious quote while you were a summer intern attending Cal
State East Bay. Also, it didn't take "months" to find out everything I
know about you - only a few minutes with Google, WHOIS, and MySpace.

And WTF does "uncovering information about my [...] reference" mean?
See what I mean about you being semi-literate?

>> All this because I wouldn't tape m camera to a dashboard.  

Um, no. It's because you're a semi-literate, arrogant, clueless jerk.
There's something about your smug refusal to accept anything outside
of your delusional little fantasy world that makes people want to
knock you down a peg or two. And the weirdest part is, you seem to
ENJOY it.

>> He later uses these finding to make unfounded personal attacks.  

Name one of my personal attacks that was unfounded. :)

>> I won't change for them, nor will the site.  At the same time, picture
>> yourself in my situation and having people harangue you almost every other
>> post you do.  

It wouldn't happen if you weren't so unreasonable and stubborn.

>> They find pseudonyms to carry out their personal motives.  

LOL!!! Yeah, everyone who posts negative things about you is really
just one person using multiple nyms.

>> It gets downright creepy after awhile.  It really affects psyche, and is not
>> healthy.  Thing is, those creeps enjoy doing it.

Apparently you enjoy it, too. If you doidn't, you'd go away. For real,
not just a Drama Queen Exit while you still hang around breathlessly
reading every post.

>Hmmm...my absence in your list above makes me wonder whether I dodged
>a bullet or ate one. ;)  Probably dodged since I can still view the
>site.

Little does he know that you are the ONE REAL person behind all the
pseudonyms. :)
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EAST COAST HIVE MIND - 10 Sep 2007 21:59 GMT
>>> They find pseudonyms to carry out their personal motives.
>
> LOL!!! Yeah, everyone who posts negative things about you is really
> just one person using multiple nyms.

Well ya know, 'Dave'(*if* that's your 'real' name), you have to realise that
for many years now, nearly everyone on MTR is rilly *me*.

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Luxury Yacht - 10 Sep 2007 03:37 GMT
You asked for suggestions for improvement.  But when offered everyone else
was wrong.  When out and out factual errors are pointed out you refuse to
change them.   Your use of the English language is questioable at best, but
you refuse to change.  People have asked you not to post to their newsgroups
and you, haughtily, say you know better than they do.  Even though you are
only an occasional poster to their group and they are regulars.  And you
wonder why people ostracize you?

Perhaps you need to consider a viewpoint other than your own.

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> Hi All,
>
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> MySpace:  http://www.myspace.com/calrog
> ********
EAST COAST HIVE MIND - 10 Sep 2007 04:10 GMT
> You asked for suggestions for improvement.  But when offered everyone else
> was wrong.  When out and out factual errors are pointed out you refuse to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Perhaps you need to consider a viewpoint other than your own.

Don't hold yr breath. I told krl on many occasions not to refer to me
as 'Charles'. My own *mother* doesn't even call me 'Charles'; nor does
anyone else that I know, I told him that, but since he's krl rgrz and
therefore *always* right, he can tell me what name I am to be callded by
with no regard to my personal preferences. Rilly there's nothing wrong with
the boy that a size 11 Doc Marten wouldn't cure or at least ameliorate.

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Justin Rhodes - 10 Sep 2007 04:00 GMT
> Hi All,

(snip)
>  Charles Slater has set up a blog completely to demean my
> personal character (http://theexperience1.ottoyamamoto.net/index.php?cat=7).  
(snip)

On that note, you've got mail! A blog entry by the comrade in response
to your post here:

http://theexperience1.ottoyamamoto.net/
Scott in SoCal - 10 Sep 2007 08:13 GMT
Justin Rhodes <JustinKRhodes@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving:

>> Hi All,
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>http://theexperience1.ottoyamamoto.net/

"Swan Song" my a.s! Cal-El has made other Drama Queen Exits from MTR
in the past, most notably the one where he was going to abandon USENET
and his web site so he could spend more time with his finacee'. He was
back to both a few weeks later, leading to the theory that she wised
up and kicked his sorry a.s to the curb, giving him lots of free time
to work on his web site. I expect this "departure" will be equally
brief. And, of course, he will continue to READ every post, because
he's dying to know what we're saying about him. :)

Cal-El may be abandoning MTR and RAD for the moment, but what about
misc.transport.rail.americas, a new newsgroup that he has expanded his
SPAMming into (along with his "Worldwide Railway Library" page on his
web site)? I guess he figures he can keep his site in the top
2,000,000 solely from hits by unsuspecting railfans who don't yet know
what a k00k he is... :)

Mark my words, we have not seen the last of SuperTroll Cal-El.
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EAST COAST HIVE MIND - 10 Sep 2007 21:54 GMT
> Mark my words, we have not seen the last of SuperTroll Cal-El.

Of course not. If it goes a month, I'd be truly surprised.

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Mark Roberts - 10 Sep 2007 04:04 GMT
Carl Rogers <postmaster@calrog.com> had written:

|  For those who have stuck around, and contribute to the 50,000+ hits per
|  month, thank you!  I'll be moving the remainder of the China and Japan
|  photos to the RSS photo and video feeds of the Worldwide Highway Library:

To be candid about it, that's the better course anyway,
since RSS or Atom or whatever else is designed for syndication.

I've quit posting notices of site additions to MTR for the most
part. I figure that anyone who is interested has already been
subscribing to the feed that I provide from the journal ("blog" if
you must) that is adjunct to the site. It is slightly more work for
me, but it also means not cluttering up the newsgroup with
announcements.

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US 71 - 10 Sep 2007 05:17 GMT
> I've quit posting notices of site additions to MTR for the most
> part. I figure that anyone who is interested has already been
> subscribing to the feed that I provide from the journal ("blog" if
> you must) that is adjunct to the site. It is slightly more work for
> me, but it also means not cluttering up the newsgroup with
> announcements.

Ah, but your announcements are interesting.

But what do I know? I'm just a 2bit photgrapher. ;)
Mark Roberts - 10 Sep 2007 06:00 GMT
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US 71 <us71@cox.net> had written:

| > I've quit posting notices of site additions to MTR for the most
| > part. I figure that anyone who is interested has already been
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
|
|  Ah, but your announcements are interesting.

There's only so much that can be said after a while. You all have
been paying so much attention to Carl, neglecting those of us who
put up sites back in the days of wood-burning servers. Sniff. Choke.
Maybe I should start making up some terms. What would happen if I
replaced each occurrence of the word "highway" with "tarantula"?
Changed every third "e" to an "i"? Or better yet, ran the Missouri
home page into Dutch and back:

Onthaal to the ways of Missouri, where you can examine one of the
largest systems of the staatsweg in the United States! The dates of
the system from Missouri up to 1922, additives and modifications
since that time, vast with. To be possible come more concerning
provisions gone, checks the interactive route unwieldly book! If
you are aroused curiosity how the numbering system (type of) works,
you can find a declaration here, also! There also are pictures of
all concerning the state in a gallery of the side of the signs and
faces of Missouri. And faces of California and other states check
my galleries of the signs and the faces of the ways of the V.S.,
ookevenals signs. The system of Missouri is distinctive because it
weigh a system of supplementaire from both numbered state ways and
compound is. The supplementaire to weigh by letters on
provincie-door-provincie a basis is designated, but they its
province no ways. They are had and by the ministry of Missouri of
transport maintained, the state ways numbered such as is. The route
aa in here the shown province of jasper, is an example of
supplementaire route. In this case, it happens to run at the same
time as Missouri 249, which is in Missouri uncommon.
[snip]

I guess I'd better not use that with the in-laws anytime soon.

|  But what do I know? I'm just a 2bit photgrapher. ;)
 
Would that be U.S. cents or Euro cents?

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Sherman L. Cahal - 11 Sep 2007 02:05 GMT
> Hi All,

September 10 update. I wonder why?

"David Backlin's photos have been removed from the Worldwide Highway
Library. I wish him the best in his future endeavours. Today's action
will make us both stronger in the long-run."
US 71 - 11 Sep 2007 02:57 GMT
> September 10 update. I wonder why?
>
> "David Backlin's photos have been removed from the Worldwide Highway
> Library. I wish him the best in his future endeavours. Today's action
> will make us both stronger in the long-run."

It wasn't an easy decision. While I appreciated the exposure, I came to the
realization I was contributing to too many different sites and was having a
hard time tracking which photos I had shared with which site. So, I decided
to consolidate things a little bit.

Plus, with my new camera I intend to reshoot some of the older photos
ensuring better quality.
Scott in SoCal - 11 Sep 2007 05:08 GMT
"Sherman L. Cahal" <shermancahal@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving:

>> Hi All,
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Library. I wish him the best in his future endeavours. Today's action
>will make us both stronger in the long-run."

David is obviously a man of good character and high quality standards.
:)
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