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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / October 2007Saw something scary on the road this morning
Driving to work I saw a dolly (two wheeled push cart thing) fly off the back of a Pepsi delivery truck, lucky for us we were a couple of lanes over and didn't hit it but it could have went right through someones windshield if they were right behind the truck. The driver had no clue that they lost it and where it landed is a major traffic hazard just over a hill so that someone coming in the lane where the dolly is would be about right on top of it before they knew it and it could cause a major accident. We managed to catch up to the Pepsi driver at a light about a mile up the road and tell him about it, hopefully he was able to get back to retrieve it before there was an accident. >Driving to work I saw a dolly (two wheeled push cart thing) fly off >the back of a Pepsi delivery >truck, lucky for us we were a couple of lanes over and didn't hit it >but it could have went right >through someones windshield if they were right behind the truck. You mean if they were tailgating the truck, right? >where it landed is a major traffic hazard just over a >hill so that someone >coming in the lane where the dolly is would be about right on top of >it before they knew it >and it could cause a major accident. You mean if they were overdriving their sight lines, right? Note that I'm not defending the carelessness of the Trucker, but if someone runs into that dolly they share a significant portion of the responsibility. > >Driving to work I saw a dolly (two wheeled push cart thing) fly off > >the back of a Pepsi delivery [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > someone runs into that dolly they share a significant portion of the > responsibility. I was in a large group of cars on a 4-lane (each way)freeway. I spiotted a random use of brakes far ahead and backed off a little, not being able to figre out what's going on. Suddnly, the car in the lane one away from the center barrier swwerved left to avoid a dog on the freeway, moving the car alongside into the barrier. Was the one pushed into the barrier at fault? (He had laft a good gap in front of himself.) > > >Driving to work I saw a dolly (two wheeled push cart thing) fly off > > >the back of a Pepsi delivery [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - ??? How is that the same as what Scott posted? I can't even fit it into the same area. Scott pointed out that running into something 'in your lane' is rather dumb. A few years ago, I was headed up canyon in the right lane, saw a concrete block laying in the lane. Pulled left into the passing lane and heard the car behind me hit the block. Lots of scraping while the car was stopping. Perfect example of not paying attention. He was plenty far behind me to either stop or pull left like I did. I still wonder what the bottom of his car looked like - hit it at about 55. Must have wiped his tranny at a minimum. Harry K >A few years ago, I was headed up canyon in the right lane, saw a >concrete block laying in the lane. Pulled left into the passing lane >and heard the car behind me hit the block. Lots of scraping while the >car was stopping. Perfect example of not paying attention. He was >plenty far behind me to either stop or pull left like I did. There's a recent movie - I think it's called "Disturbia" - where starts off with a pretty hellacious car crash. This teenage kid is driving his dad back home from a fishing trip. The kid is following too close behind an SUV. Suddenly, the SUV swerves to the left, revealing a broken down car in the lane immediately ahead. The kid hits the car and goes airborne, flipping his Volvo which comes to rest on its roof. Then a pickup truck coming from the other direction plows into the Volvo. This is a classic case of people not paying attention to what's going on in front of them - especially the driver of the pickup truck, who had no SUV in front of him obstructing his view. >> >Driving to work I saw a dolly (two wheeled push cart thing) fly off >> >the back of a Pepsi delivery [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >Was the one pushed into the barrier at fault? (He had laft a good gap >in front of himself.) He, as well as the driver that collided with him, were equally at fault due to the act of pacing. Proper lane discipline would have prevented such an occurrence.  Signature"Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS" brags of it's homosexuallity: the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie. : http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en "Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS" brags of it's ability to operate a vehicle: I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash. : http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/a376114ee8a61824?hl=en On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:08:48 -0400, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote: >>I was in a large group of cars on a 4-lane (each way)freeway. I >>spiotted a random use of brakes far ahead and backed off a little, not [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >fault due to the act of pacing. Proper lane discipline would have >prevented such an occurrence. Yes, LLBing is wrong, but so is making an unsafe lane change into an occupied lane. The LLB deserves some blame, but not a full 50%. The dumbshit who rammed the LLB into the K-rail deserves the lion's share of the blame. > > >Driving to work I saw a dolly (two wheeled push cart thing) fly off > > >the back of a Pepsi delivery [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I forgot the punch line. When the hittee and I cought up with the hitter, we heard, "I didn't think that I had to stop - This is a rental car and I'm one my way to the airport! I left my card with both and left, shaking my head. Studemania: > I forgot the punch line. When the hittee and I cought up with the > hitter, we heard, "I didn't think that I had to stop - This is a > rental car and I'm one my way to the airport! What part of, "leaving the scene of an accident," does that driver fail to understand? > I left my card with both and left, shaking my head. Signature-- "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Benjamin Franklin > Studemania: >> I forgot the punch line. When the hittee and I cought up with the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >What part of, "leaving the scene of an accident," does that driver fail >to understand? What part of "I'm going to miss my flight if I stop!" do YOU fail to understand? :) >>Driving to work I saw a dolly (two wheeled push cart thing) fly off >>the back of a Pepsi delivery [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >You mean if they were tailgating the truck, right? I've seen stuff come out of the back of open ended trucks before. In most cases, you've got ample warning (if you're paying attention) and can take appropriate measures to prevent such a "gift." Usually stuff bounces around for a bit (which should really get your attention) before deciding to go walk about. >>where it landed is a major traffic hazard just over a >>hill so that someone [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >someone runs into that dolly they share a significant portion of the >responsibility. Signature"Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS" brags of it's homosexuallity: the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie. : http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en "Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS" brags of it's ability to operate a vehicle: I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash. : http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/a376114ee8a61824?hl=en On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:07:25 -0400, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote: >>>Driving to work I saw a dolly (two wheeled push cart thing) fly off >>>the back of a Pepsi delivery [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >most cases, you've got ample warning (if you're paying attention) and >can take appropriate measures to prevent such a "gift." Not if your front bumper is 2" behind the rear bumper of the truck. In that case, the dolly never hits the ground, but instead falls right off the truck and onto your car. >On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:07:25 -0400, "Murderous Speeding Drunken >Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >that case, the dolly never hits the ground, but instead falls right >off the truck and onto your car. What I am referring to by "ample warning" is the dolly rolling around lose in the back of the truck, before coming out, not something that's had an opportunity to bounce on the road a few times. As many drivers as we have hauling unsecured loads around here, it's wise to pay attention to their loads since they are not themselves. Signature"Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS" brags of it's homosexuallity: the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie. : http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en "Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS" brags of it's ability to operate a vehicle: I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash. : http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/a376114ee8a61824?hl=en Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): > I've seen stuff come out of the back of open ended trucks before. In > most cases, you've got ample warning (if you're paying attention) and > can take appropriate measures to prevent such a "gift." Usually stuff > bounces around for a bit (which should really get your attention) > before deciding to go walk about. See it all the time around here. I have come to the conclusion that its best to give all trucks a wide berth. Brain dead redencks in their 4x4 picuups are the worst offenders. Signature"Here comes another con hiding behind a collar His only God is the all mighty Dollar He ain't no prophet, He ain't no healer He's just a two bit, goddamn money stealer!" --Suicidal Tendencies > Note that I'm not defending the carelessness of the trucker, but if > someone runs into that dolly they share a significant portion of the > responsibility. Maybe. I can imagine something like that taking a bad bounce and traveling quite a ways in an unpredictable direction. I can also imagine being in a position in traffic where you see it but there's nothing to do in the time available but take your lickin' -- rare, if you drive heads-up, but it happens. My (mis)understanding is that it's principally the trucker's responsibility to secure his load, and violations that get somebody hurt or cause large damage are a big deal even for private citizens but especially for commercial drivers. Cheers, --Joe On Oct 25, 8:38 pm, Ad absurdum per aspera <jtc...@california.com> wrote: > > Note that I'm not defending the carelessness of the trucker, but if > > someone runs into that dolly they share a significant portion of the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Cheers, > --Joe It is legally the truckers resposibility IFAIK, in all US states and EU. >Driving to work I saw a dolly (two wheeled push cart thing) fly off >the back of a Pepsi delivery [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >it, hopefully he was able to get back to retrieve it >before there was an accident. How long did you observe it being loose in the back of the truck before it finally gained freedom? Signature"Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS" brags of it's homosexuallity: the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie. : http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en "Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS" brags of it's ability to operate a vehicle: I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash. : http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/a376114ee8a61824?hl=en |
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