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They Don't Even TRY to Pretend Anymore

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Scott in SoCal - 03 Nov 2007 04:00 GMT
It's all about the revenue. If there were even a SMIDGEN of safety in
there, they would be in favor of suspending the driver's licenses of
chronic red light runners. But NO, we can't take people's licesnes
away! If they can't drive to work, they can't keep our coffers full
with traffic fines!!

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/632378,CST-NWS-redlight02.article

Red-light runners may lose licenses
FINES RAISED | Daley wants city to have power to suspend licenses of
chronic offenders

November 2, 2007
BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter fspielman@suntimes.com

Chicago motorists caught on camera running red lights may face even
higher fines -- $100 or more -- to ease the pressure to raise property
taxes.

But that extra $10 or so pales in comparison to the penalty Mayor
Daley has in mind: suspending driver's licenses.

At Wednesday's City Council meeting, Daley introduced a sweeping
"organization and management" ordinance tied to his 2008 budget that,
among other things, would empower the city to suspend the driver's
licenses of motorists with five or more red-light camera violations.

Last year, the General Assembly gave cities the right to suspend
licenses for red-light running. Daley is simply moving to take
advantage of the power, said Wendy Abrams, a spokeswoman for the
city's Budget and Management Office.

"Its intended purpose is to punish the most egregious red-light
offenders -- those who have demonstrated a pattern of behavior that is
dangerous to both motorists and pedestrians," Abrams said.

Chicago aldermen have suggested raising the $90 ticket to $100 or more
to roll back Daley's proposed $108 million property tax increase.

But they were divided on the idea of suspending driver's licenses --
particularly when 39 CTA bus routes are on the chopping block.

"Some people may have no choice but to drive. In the environment we're
in right now, it doesn't make sense to suspend someone's license. For
what? So they can't get to work to make money and pay their tickets?

[...]
MLOM - 03 Nov 2007 04:19 GMT
> It's all about the revenue. If there were even a SMIDGEN of safety in
> there, they would be in favor of suspending the driver's licenses of
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
> [...]

I'm sure Brent and Nate would agree...it's part of the ongoing scam
that's intended to keep the government rich and everyone else broke.
And that despite the fact that the value of the dollar isn't based on
a damn thing (hasn't been in over 40 years).

"Few men have the virtue to withstand the highest bidder."
   -- George Washington
Brent P - 03 Nov 2007 07:07 GMT
> I'm sure Brent and Nate would agree...it's part of the ongoing scam
> that's intended to keep the government rich and everyone else broke.
> And that despite the fact that the value of the dollar isn't based on
> a damn thing (hasn't been in over 40 years).

Last vestiages of the gold standard died in the early 70s. Thanks to the
money manipulators at the federal reserve (not to mention the over
spending of government) serving the bankers and wall street, the dollar
has fallen to new lows today. Of course the news media doesn't cover the
real reason that oil is pushing towards a $100/bbl. It's not that oil is
high, but dollars are low. Iran has stopped taking dollars for oil. (and
the media tells us its nukes...) The Saudi's are breaking from the
dollar central bank wise but they still take it for oil.

Anyway, I'll just say: Ron Paul 2008!

"The Refusal of King George III to allow the colonies to operate an honest
money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money
manipulators was probably the prime cause of the revolution." -Benjamin
Franklin
Brent P - 03 Nov 2007 07:01 GMT
> It's all about the revenue. If there were even a SMIDGEN of safety in
> there, they would be in favor of suspending the driver's licenses of
> chronic red light runners. But NO, we can't take people's licesnes
> away! If they can't drive to work, they can't keep our coffers full
> with traffic fines!!

Ya shoulda cross-posted it.
Anyway, now the rear end collisions can really go up. It's one
calculation to pay $90 to avoid the hassle of being rear-ended and quite
another to avoid it but get one's license suspended.

> http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/632378,CST-NWS-redlight02.article
Scott in SoCal - 03 Nov 2007 17:33 GMT
>Ya shoulda cross-posted it.

Kenji and Tusshar always yell at me when I do that.
necromancer - 03 Nov 2007 13:14 GMT
Scott in SoCal:
> It's all about the revenue. If there were even a SMIDGEN of safety in
> there, they would be in favor of suspending the driver's licenses of
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> FINES RAISED | Daley wants city to have power to suspend licenses of
> chronic offenders

Hell, the sheriff in j-ville is practically drooling all over himself at
the prospect of all that revenue from the scameras he want to put in.

ref: http://tinyurl.com/2sjycb

The local editorial cartoonist hit the nail right on the head on this
issue: http://tinyurl.com/3cxzua

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under law? Or is there one system for the average
citizen and another for the high and mighty?"
               --Senator Ted Kennedy

Arif Khokar - 05 Nov 2007 01:14 GMT
[adding chi.general]

I'll x-post it since I don't care what certain regular posters in
chi.general think :)

> It's all about the revenue. If there were even a SMIDGEN of safety in
> there, they would be in favor of suspending the driver's licenses of
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
> [...]
Scott in SoCal - 05 Nov 2007 01:51 GMT
>[adding chi.general]
>
>I'll x-post it since I don't care what certain regular posters in
>chi.general think :)

Now you've gone and created a dupe. :)
Arif Khokar - 05 Nov 2007 03:10 GMT
> Now you've gone and created a dupe. :)

Yeah, I should have subscribed to that group and checked first :)
Adam H. Kerman - 05 Nov 2007 05:52 GMT
>[adding chi.general]

>I'll x-post it since I don't care what certain regular posters in
>chi.general think :)

He had already posted the article to chi.general, you blithering idiot.

>> It's all about the revenue. If there were even a SMIDGEN of safety in
>> there, they would be in favor of suspending the driver's licenses of
>> chronic red light runners. But NO, we can't take people's licesnes
>> away! If they can't drive to work, they can't keep our coffers full
>> with traffic fines!!

>> http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/632378,CST-NWS-redlight02.article

>> Red-light runners may lose licenses
>> FINES RAISED | Daley wants city to have power to suspend licenses of
>> chronic offenders
Arif Khokar - 05 Nov 2007 05:56 GMT
> He had already posted the article to chi.general, you blithering idiot.

Why don't you call the waaaahmbulance then, you whiny buffoon.
Adam H. Kerman - 05 Nov 2007 13:06 GMT
>>He had already posted the article to chi.general, you blithering idiot.

>Why don't you call the waaaahmbulance then, you whiny buffoon.

Oooh, followup-to games.

You were the one who said he didn't care what chi.general readers think
of your pathetic stunts. Odd; it seems that you do.

Next time you post to Usenet, post something you yourself have written,
not a quote of someone quoting a newspaper or magazine article.

Doofus.
Scott in SoCal - 05 Nov 2007 14:26 GMT
>>>He had already posted the article to chi.general, you blithering idiot.
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Doofus.

Ys aee, Arif? I told you those chi.general denizens were a feisty
lot... :)
Chicago Paddling-Fishing - 05 Nov 2007 18:25 GMT
In chi.general Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

: >[adding chi.general]

: >I'll x-post it since I don't care what certain regular posters in
: >chi.general think :)

: He had already posted the article to chi.general, you blithering idiot.

There's that b word again... "blithering"... has it suddenly become a "in" word
that your grandpa wouldn't use when refering to his neighbor?

Why has it suddenly become so pervasive in chi.splat?

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