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MFFY Blocks Parking Lot Entrance - Caught on Tape
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Scott in SoCal - 13 Nov 2007 04:50 GMT This one made the evening news. According to KCAL, the guy in the black car was blocking the entrance to the good doctor's parking lot. He came over to tell this MFFY a.shole to move his car. Apparently the MFFY was being uncooperative, so the doctor got into the MFFY's car in an attempt to move it himself. Things escalated from there.
Of course, the JLEDI media and cops have spun this incident so as to make Dr. Moody look like the bad guy because he got pissed off at this MFFY shithead. Moody ends up getting arrested, whereas the MFFY doesn't get so much as a traffic ticket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj8rEV7siu0
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Brent P - 13 Nov 2007 06:08 GMT > This one made the evening news. According to KCAL, the guy in the > black car was blocking the entrance to the good doctor's parking lot. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj8rEV7siu0 It's this insane idea that people without infinite tolerance are some how bad. Who knows how many MFFY a.sholes that guy had encountered that day.
We are in a society where the people who enjoy being a.sholes, enjoy trying to piss other people off, be it through outright assholishness or passive-aggressive assholishness are in the command seat. Then we are supposed to wonder why things suck so much now compared to decades ago. Because decades ago people weren't affraid to stand up to that crap and they weren't punished for it. So it got nipped in the bud. Now it's grown beyond bounds.
Scott in SoCal - 13 Nov 2007 06:32 GMT >> This one made the evening news. According to KCAL, the guy in the >> black car was blocking the entrance to the good doctor's parking lot. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >they weren't punished for it. So it got nipped in the bud. Now it's grown >beyond bounds. Did you see 60 Minutes last night? They ran a MUST-SEE piece on what I call the "Entitlement Generation" - kids born after 1985 who have always had social promotion ("no kid left behind"), were always told they are "special," got a trophy just for showing up, etc. etc. And these kids are now out there sharing the roads with us (if "sharing" is the right word - they have basically been trained since Kindergarten to be MFFYs, and they can't understand why other drivers keep giving them the finger when they're just doing what comes naturally).
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3486473n
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Brent P - 13 Nov 2007 06:48 GMT >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj8rEV7siu0
>>It's this insane idea that people without infinite tolerance are some how >>bad. Who knows how many MFFY a.sholes that guy had encountered that day.
>>We are in a society where the people who enjoy being a.sholes, enjoy >>trying to piss other people off, be it through outright assholishness or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>they weren't punished for it. So it got nipped in the bud. Now it's grown >>beyond bounds.
> Did you see 60 Minutes last night? They ran a MUST-SEE piece on what I > call the "Entitlement Generation" - kids born after 1985 who have [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3486473n This will just be another excuse to move everything to China.
The story is all about catering to these MFFY.... Well it's the result of the deliberate dumbing down of the nation. They should let this MFFY generation walk. They can walk all the way to China.
Scott in SoCal - 13 Nov 2007 14:46 GMT >> http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3486473n > >This will just be another excuse to move everything to China. > >The story is all about catering to these MFFY.... Well, mostly. There is once scene where they show these kids taking a crash course in how to have a work ethic. :)
>Well it's the result >of the deliberate dumbing down of the nation. They should let this MFFY >generation walk. They can walk all the way to China. No way will they walk that far - they're too lazy! They'll walk back home and move in with Mommy and Daddy (if, in fact, they ever left). When the P's kick the bucket, they'll go on welfare and other entitlement programs. Maybe they'll get out of the house once in a while to vote for more entitlements. It'll be rough going, however, as entitlement programs need productive people to support all the leeches; if everybody is a leech then there's no money coming in (which is why Social Security will be going bankrupt when all the Boomers retire).
Life is going to be tough for these kids. They're going to be angry, frustrated, and confused as to why they don't automatically win anymore. After 18 years of straight As, their first bad performance review at their first job is going to throw them into an emotional tizzy. etc. etc.
And they'll be pouring all those negative emotions through the gas pedal.
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Brent P - 13 Nov 2007 15:17 GMT > No way will they walk that far - they're too lazy! They'll walk back > home and move in with Mommy and Daddy (if, in fact, they ever left). [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > (which is why Social Security will be going bankrupt when all the > Boomers retire). I've long predicted that at some point I will stop working because it will no longer be worth working. Working simply won't be profitable any longer. With the current tax burden and falling dollar the ROI for working is already got me questioning it. I'll probably keep being productive so long as I have something left at the end of the day. But the hell if I am going to work if all get out of it is money to pay taxes and to buy gasoline to go to and from work.
WRT social security, I think this is one of the reasons the dollar is being devalued and the inflation numbers being rigged. That way they can pay the social security benefits, just don't expect to buy a loaf of bread with the monthly check. It's a way of reducing benefits and increasing taxes without ever saying they are doing it.
> Life is going to be tough for these kids. They're going to be angry, > frustrated, and confused as to why they don't automatically win > anymore. After 18 years of straight As, their first bad performance > review at their first job is going to throw them into an emotional > tizzy. etc. etc. By that news story it seems that the corporate culture, run by the same generation that bullshited them, will continue to bullshit them.
> And they'll be pouring all those negative emotions through the gas > pedal. No need for that, they already believe they are special so they think other people have to just let them do whatever it is they want to do.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 14 Nov 2007 00:14 GMT >>> http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3486473n >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >review at their first job is going to throw them into an emotional >tizzy. etc. etc. Uh, as near as I can tell, they won't be receiving bad reviews because their bosses aren't much better, either. What they will be doing is sitting around wondering why all their jobs went to foreigners.
>And they'll be pouring all those negative emotions through the gas >pedal. --
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Scott in SoCal - 14 Nov 2007 04:24 GMT On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:14:07 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote:
>>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3486473n >>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >their bosses aren't much better, either. What they will be doing is >sitting around wondering why all their jobs went to foreigners. For the time being, the bosses will still be Baby Boomers and Gen Xers, and they'll still have to make a profit or go out of business. Which means the Entitlement Generation workers who don't figure out how to handle a real job real quick are going to be living with Mommy and Daddy for a LOOONG time.
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Matthew T. Russotto - 15 Nov 2007 18:36 GMT >For the time being, the bosses will still be Baby Boomers and Gen >Xers, and they'll still have to make a profit or go out of business. >Which means the Entitlement Generation workers who don't figure out >how to handle a real job real quick are going to be living with Mommy >and Daddy for a LOOONG time. The "Entitlement Generation" is as much a fiction as the "Slacker Generation" (a.k.a Generation X), or the generation of worthless hippies (a.k.a. the Baby Boomers). The complaint is at least as old as ancient Greece.
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Scott in SoCal - 15 Nov 2007 22:18 GMT >>For the time being, the bosses will still be Baby Boomers and Gen >>Xers, and they'll still have to make a profit or go out of business. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Generation" (a.k.a Generation X), or the generation of worthless >hippies (a.k.a. the Baby Boomers). Then I guess they'll all be coming over to work for you after I fire them. :)
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 14 Nov 2007 00:12 GMT >This one made the evening news. According to KCAL, the guy in the >black car was blocking the entrance to the good doctor's parking lot. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj8rEV7siu0 Of course, it's been yanked by now. :-(
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Scott in SoCal - 14 Nov 2007 04:25 GMT On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:12:35 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote:
>>This one made the evening news. According to KCAL, the guy in the >>black car was blocking the entrance to the good doctor's parking lot. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Of course, it's been yanked by now. :-( Do a search for "Moody Dentist" - there are quite a few copies still accessible.
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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 16 Nov 2007 02:08 GMT >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj8rEV7siu0 >> >>Of course, it's been yanked by now. :-( > >Do a search for "Moody Dentist" - there are quite a few copies still >accessible. Thanks; that was the ticket.
While I don't agree with the Dentists actions, I understand them.
Which is why I shed no tears for dumb a.ses who get killed due to "road rage."
MFFY to the max, huh?
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websurf1@cox.net - 14 Nov 2007 02:12 GMT Moody ends up getting arrested, whereas the MFFY
> doesn't get so much as a traffic ticket. Probably because you don't usually get tickets for blocking a parking space. However, attempting to move someone else's car without permission is car theft.
Sounds to me like two Type A personalities collided. Shoulda jailed 'em both, somehow.
MLOM - 14 Nov 2007 02:59 GMT On Nov 13, 8:12 pm, websu...@cox.net wrote:
> Moody ends up getting arrested, whereas the MFFY > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Sounds to me like two Type A personalities collided. Shoulda jailed > 'em both, somehow. I didn't watch the linked video (I know, lazy arse), but if it's the same news report I saw on TV earlier in the week, the incident included the driver who was blocked later shoving a female passenger (who had tried to intervene) to the ground. Likely he was arrested for assault.
Scott in SoCal - 14 Nov 2007 04:34 GMT >On Nov 13, 8:12 pm, websu...@cox.net wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> Probably because you don't usually get tickets for blocking a parking >> space. Blocking a driveway is illegal just about everywhere. According to one report, the MFFY was blocking the driveway to a parking lot.
>> However, attempting to move someone else's car without permission is >> car theft. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >(who had tried to intervene) to the ground. Likely he was arrested >for assault. He was.
However, the video also shows the MFFY punching Dr. Moody in the head. Assault, battery, and blocking a driveway, yet none of the news reports mention anything about his crimes or any charges against him. As for the MFFY's sister who got pushed to the ground, SHE came up to Dr. Moody and SHOVED HIM FIRST; Dr. Moody just happened to be stronger than she was, and his response shove knocked her down. But neither the MFFY nor his sister get charged with anything? THAT is complete bullshit. Either charge them all or charge none of them.
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Brent P - 14 Nov 2007 05:17 GMT > MFFY nor his sister get charged with anything? THAT is complete > bullshit. Either charge them all or charge none of them. The whole point is to condition people to take abuse. Striking back is the offense. The 'victim' is supposed to remain level headed and just take it. This has been the direction things have been heading since I first noticed it in the 80s. I think it's part of a bigger manipulation of society, but I have no proof. It simply seems to fit in with other changes and it allows for ever more intrusive government 'solutions' to 'problems'.
MLOM - 15 Nov 2007 02:02 GMT On Nov 13, 11:17 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
> In article <haukj3doclo2l42idcd9b1gut7kp9gi...@4ax.com>, Scott in SoCal wrote: > > MFFY nor his sister get charged with anything? THAT is complete [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > changes and it allows for ever more intrusive government 'solutions' to > 'problems'. I pretty much noticed the same trend, at about the same time. When I was in high school, is a fight broke out the guy who lost the fight ended up suspended.
Matthew T. Russotto - 15 Nov 2007 18:43 GMT >The whole point is to condition people to take abuse. Striking back is >the offense. The 'victim' is supposed to remain level headed and just [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >changes and it allows for ever more intrusive government 'solutions' to >'problems'. There's no need for conspiracies. It's merely the tendency of people in authority to insist that people rely on them for satisfication.
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Larry Bud - 14 Nov 2007 04:02 GMT On Nov 13, 9:12 pm, websu...@cox.net wrote:
> Moody ends up getting arrested, whereas the MFFY > > > doesn't get so much as a traffic ticket. > > Probably because you don't usually get tickets for blocking a parking > space. He wasn't blocking a parking space, he was blocking a PARKING LOT.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 14 Nov 2007 23:52 GMT >On Nov 13, 9:12 pm, websu...@cox.net wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >He wasn't blocking a parking space, he was blocking a PARKING LOT. You think LEOs are smart enough to make the distinction?
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MLOM - 15 Nov 2007 00:43 GMT On Nov 14, 5:52 pm, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 13, 9:12 pm, websu...@cox.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. > - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy They wouldn't give a rat's a$$ about that given the emphasis on defending that white rectangular sign on the side of the road. Traffic blocking fines are not the lucrative revenue generator as $peed.
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Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 15 Nov 2007 01:15 GMT > Moody ends up getting arrested, whereas the MFFY > > doesn't get so much as a traffic ticket. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > However, attempting to move someone else's car without permission is > car theft. IANAL, but blocking someone into a parking lot could be considered unlawfully detaining them. Furthermore, the individual doing the blocking was not a police officer. Those being detained may reasonably have feared for their personal safety and might legally be able to take actions to defend themselves.
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Jim Yanik - 15 Nov 2007 01:44 GMT >> Moody ends up getting arrested, whereas the MFFY >> > doesn't get so much as a traffic ticket. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > IANAL, but blocking someone into a parking lot could be considered > unlawfully detaining them. Only if deliberate and overt(in-your-face),aimed at keeping you from leaving.
> Furthermore, the individual doing the > blocking was not a police officer. Those being detained may reasonably > have feared for their personal safety and might legally be able to take > actions to defend themselves. NONSENSE. Pure nonsense.
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Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 15 Nov 2007 05:31 GMT > >> Moody ends up getting arrested, whereas the MFFY > >> > doesn't get so much as a traffic ticket. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > NONSENSE. Pure nonsense. Take a defensive driving course for security personnel.
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Jim Yanik - 15 Nov 2007 14:26 GMT >> >> On Nov 12, 9:50 pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...@yahoo.com> >> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Take a defensive driving course for security personnel. take a concealed carry permit course,and learn what's legal and what's not in lethal self-defense. I have. Even Florida's new very lenient "stand your ground" law doesn't allow what you suggest.
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Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 16 Nov 2007 02:44 GMT > >> >> On Nov 12, 9:50 pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...@yahoo.com> > >> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Even Florida's new very lenient "stand your ground" law doesn't allow what > you suggest. What does ramming someone's car have to do with a concealed weapons permit?
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Jim Yanik - 16 Nov 2007 04:45 GMT >> >> >> On Nov 12, 9:50 pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...@yahoo.com> >> >> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > What does ramming someone's car have to do with a concealed weapons > permit? Nothing;the original post was about BLOCKING a parking lot/space,and some nonsense about alleged "unlawful detaining". YOU even used the term "blocking" in your replies.I saw no mention of any "ramming".
With a CCW course,you would learn when it's legal to use lethal force in self-defense,as you seem to be deficient in that regard. "blocking" by itself is not included in that category.
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Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 16 Nov 2007 21:35 GMT [snip]
> Nothing;the original post was about BLOCKING a parking lot/space, Read the subject line again.
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Jim Yanik - 17 Nov 2007 00:35 GMT > [snip] >> > >> Nothing;the original post was about BLOCKING a parking lot/space, > > Read the subject line again. "MFFY blocks parking lot entrance".
Maybe YOU should READ it again. it says "blocks" entrance. definitely no mention of "ramming",and definitely NOT any grounds for lethal "self-defense".
You -really- need to take a concealed carry class and LEARN what constitutes legal,legitimate use of lethal force in "self-defense". Or just keep on speaking from ignorance.
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Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 18 Nov 2007 20:29 GMT > > [snip] > >> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > definitely no mention of "ramming",and definitely NOT any grounds for > lethal "self-defense". Since when is pushing or even ramming a vehicle lethal?
I was talking to one of the people who does security work for Microsoft execs. If you block a parking lot entrance and their client cannot otherwise exit, they WILL move your car. With whatever force it takes.
Each state has different laws, so some of the more liberal friendly ones may not tolerate this kind of behavior. Here in Washington State, we just had a case where an individual was shot and killed for pounding on someone's car window (with his fists) in a parking lot. The prosecutor declined to file charges.
Now I know you are one of those bleeding heart liberals who despises any sort of violence. But in this country, we have the right to defend ourselves and our property. If you don't like that, you are going to have trouble finding a more left leaning state than Washington.
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Jim Yanik - 18 Nov 2007 22:23 GMT >> > [snip] >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Since when is pushing or even ramming a vehicle lethal? WHERE did that even come up? you just made some wildass claim about thinking your were "detained illegally" and thus OK to shoot the MFFY blocking you in the lot.
> I was talking to one of the people who does security work for Microsoft > execs. If you block a parking lot entrance and their client cannot > otherwise exit, they WILL move your car. With whatever force it takes. Yeah,they will call a towing company and have the car towed. If any violence erupts,the tow operator may then choose to defend themselves.Or he may flee and call police.
> Each state has different laws, so some of the more liberal friendly ones > may not tolerate this kind of behavior. Here in Washington State, we > just had a case where an individual was shot and killed for pounding on > someone's car window (with his fists) in a parking lot. The prosecutor > declined to file charges. Probably not enough info to make a clear case.
> Now I know you are one of those bleeding heart liberals who despises any > sort of violence. But in this country, we have the right to defend > ourselves and our property. If you don't like that, you are going to > have trouble finding a more left leaning state than Washington. Now I KNOW you can't read;if you had read any of my MANY posts on this NG about the RKBA,you'd know I'm not a "liberal","bleeding heart" or not.
For an engineer,you sure miss a lot of pertinent details.
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Matthew T. Russotto - 15 Nov 2007 16:38 GMT > Moody ends up getting arrested, whereas the MFFY >> doesn't get so much as a traffic ticket. > >Probably because you don't usually get tickets for blocking a parking >space. You should, and there are offenses on the books in most states for it if the parking space is public.
>However, attempting to move someone else's car without permission is >car theft. Car theft would require the intent to permanently deprive the owner of the car. At worst it would be joyriding.
>Sounds to me like two Type A personalities collided. Shoulda jailed >'em both, somehow. So what exactly IS one supposed to do when someone else is deliberately blocking the entrance to one's parking area? The cops won't do anything, unless you try to help yourself in which case they'll arrest you.
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Scott in SoCal - 15 Nov 2007 22:20 GMT >So what exactly IS one supposed to do when someone else is >deliberately blocking the entrance to one's parking area? According to one TV commercial I saw, you should hook up a towing chain to the tow hitch of your Dodge Ram pickup truck and simply pull the offending vehicle out of the way. :)
Matthew T. Russotto - 16 Nov 2007 18:00 GMT >>So what exactly IS one supposed to do when someone else is >>deliberately blocking the entrance to one's parking area? > >According to one TV commercial I saw, you should hook up a towing >chain to the tow hitch of your Dodge Ram pickup truck and simply pull >the offending vehicle out of the way. :) I don't personally have a problem with that, but I think the cops would object to that too.
Also I'd never buy a Dodge.
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Garth Almgren - 16 Nov 2007 00:42 GMT On Nov 15, 8:38 am, russo...@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew T. Russotto) wrote:
> So what exactly IS one supposed to do when someone else is > deliberately blocking the entrance to one's parking area? There's a reason my Jeep has a winch, not to mention really stout bumpers... :)
> The cops > won't do anything, unless you try to help yourself in which case > they'll arrest you. Hmm, there is that little snag. They'd probably nab you for destruction/vandalism of private property, or something along those lines.
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223rem - 15 Nov 2007 07:31 GMT > This one made the evening news. According to KCAL, the guy in the > black car was blocking the entrance to the good doctor's parking lot. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj8rEV7siu0 The bottom line: a short guy should not try to punch a tall guy in the face, because he has no leverage. He should go for the body instead. A hook to the liver would have calmed Mr Dentist right away.
Jim Yanik - 15 Nov 2007 14:29 GMT 223rem <223rem@gmail.com> wrote in news:- KSdncgJ4I2MaKbanZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@comcast.com:
>> This one made the evening news. According to KCAL, the guy in the >> black car was blocking the entrance to the good doctor's parking lot. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > face, because he has no leverage. He should go for the body instead. A > hook to the liver would have calmed Mr Dentist right away. striking anyone is assault,even if they are blocking your parking lot or space. you also have no right to try and move their vehicle without their consent. Now,THAT -can- get you shot,for carjacking.
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223rem - 15 Nov 2007 17:54 GMT > striking anyone is assault,even if they are blocking your parking lot or > space. The advantage of a liver shot is that it leaves no marks, so there is no evidence of assault. As opposed to a face shot.
Matthew T. Russotto - 18 Nov 2007 00:35 GMT >striking anyone is assault,even if they are blocking your parking lot or >space. >you also have no right to try and move their vehicle without their consent. >Now,THAT -can- get you shot,for carjacking. So, you now have a situation where someone can do you wrong, the state will do nothing about it, and the state will further demand that YOU do nothing aout it. See a problem yet?
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Scott in SoCal - 15 Nov 2007 14:30 GMT >> This one made the evening news. According to KCAL, the guy in the >> black car was blocking the entrance to the good doctor's parking lot. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >face, because he has no leverage. He should go for the body instead. A >hook to the liver would have calmed Mr Dentist right away. The real bottom line: if he hadn't been blocking the f.cking driveway like a MFFY a.shole, there would have been no need for either punching or calming.
223rem - 15 Nov 2007 17:54 GMT > The real bottom line: if he hadn't been blocking the f.cking driveway > like a MFFY a.shole, there would have been no need for either punching > or calming. True, but I was amused by his fighting tactics. Very typical. Most people will neglect the body and go for the head.
Matthew T. Russotto - 15 Nov 2007 16:23 GMT >Of course, the JLEDI media and cops have spun this incident so as to >make Dr. Moody look like the bad guy because he got pissed off at this >MFFY shithead. Moody ends up getting arrested, whereas the MFFY >doesn't get so much as a traffic ticket. Dr. Moody's biggest mistake was attacking the camera.
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Scott in SoCal - 15 Nov 2007 22:21 GMT >>Of course, the JLEDI media and cops have spun this incident so as to >>make Dr. Moody look like the bad guy because he got pissed off at this >>MFFY shithead. Moody ends up getting arrested, whereas the MFFY >>doesn't get so much as a traffic ticket. > >Dr. Moody's biggest mistake was attacking the camera. Yep, but knocking the woman to the ground was a close second.
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