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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21758302/ They taught us in shop class: Use the right tool Wash. state man uses shotgun to loosen lug nut; effort does not go well updated 1:44 p.m. MT, Mon., Nov. 12, 2007 SOUTHWORTH, Wash. - A man trying to loosen a stubborn lug nut blasted the wheel with a 12-gauge shotgun, injuring himself badly in both legs, sheriff's deputies said. The 66-year-old man had been repairing a Lincoln Continental for two weeks at his home in Kitsap County northwest of Southworth, about 10 miles southwest of Seattle, and had gotten all but one of the lug nuts off the right rear wheel by Saturday afternoon, Kitsap County Deputy Scott Wilson said. "He's bound and determined to get that lug nut off," Wilson said. From about arm's length, the man fired the shotgun at the wheel and was "peppered" in both legs with buckshot and debris, with some injuries as high as his chin, according to a sheriff's office report. "Nobody else was there, and he wasn't intoxicated," Wilson said. The man was taken to Tacoma General Hospital with injuries Wilson described as severe but not life-threatening. ------------------ 66 years old and owns a lincoln continental. He's a moron republican all right. Prolly a toe tapper too. On Nov 13, 2:51 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > 66 years old and owns a lincoln continental. He's a moron republican all > right. Prolly a toe tapper too. I take it this means you have absolutely no information to prove this. My guess is that he is some southern Dimocrat union boss. Prolly your secret lover too! Pretty good match to your IQ, I'd say. Truth is that anyone this interested in winning the Darwin award prolly has NO interest in politics. Benj <bjacoby@iwaynet.net> wrote in news:1194941978.682910.45520 @d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com: > On Nov 13, 2:51 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" > <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > this. My guess is that he is some southern Dimocrat union boss. > Prolly your secret lover too! Pretty good match to your IQ, I'd say. Prove it??? I guarantee it!! On Nov 13, 12:38 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote in news:1194941978.682910.45520 > > I take it this means you have absolutely no information to prove > > this. My guess is that he is some southern Dimocrat union boss. > > Prolly your secret lover too! Pretty good match to your IQ, I'd say. > > Prove it??? I guarantee it!! And if I take time to prove it otherwise, you will do exactly what? Oh that's right nothing except call me a liar. How about YOU prove it and save me the bother since you brought it up. Hey, speaking of "I guarantee it!", have you noticed how integrity in the corporate world seems a thing of the past? I see all these ads on TV with some guy saying "I guarantee it!" and what does it mean? Nothing. No, not some real written guarantee or warranty. Just some hot air from the founder. HE determines what "I guarantee it" means! Every time I hear this it somehow reminds me of Janet Reno on TV saying, "I take full responsibility for the events at Waco Tx." Responsibility? What in hell does that mean? Certainly not any investigation of criminal wrongdoing let alone actual charges and convictions! Bottom line: It's just all bullshit. PURE BULLSHIT pure and simple. Sure it's easy to "guarantee" something or "take responsibility" for something if you already KNOW there won't be any real consequences. When real money gets involved or a real cell door with your name on it, THEN maybe these things start to mean something! >Hey, speaking of "I guarantee it!", have you noticed how integrity in >the corporate world seems a thing of the past? You're making the false assumption that it existed in the past. The phrase "I guarantee it!" has _always_ been a sign of a con. It's been around almost as long as "trust me".  SignatureThere's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. >Benj <bjacoby@iwaynet.net> wrote in news:1194941978.682910.45520 >@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Prove it??? I guarantee it!! You guarantee the idiot in the article is a good match for your IQ? Your guarantee is not required; it's already common knowledge you're an idiot. :-) By the way, have you ever driven a vehicle faster than the posted limit, hypocrite? -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy > On Nov 13, 2:51 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" > <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > this. My guess is that he is some southern Dimocrat union boss. > Prolly your secret lover too! Pretty good match to your IQ, I'd say. Southworth, Washington. GOP country. Probably lives in a single-wide mobile home with a few other project cars up on blocks in the front yard. If not, he'll stand out like a sore thumb in that town. SignaturePaul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ "Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be, or to be indistinguishable from self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time." - Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_ > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21758302/ > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > right rear wheel by Saturday afternoon, Kitsap County Deputy Scott Wilson > said. He spent two weeks just trying to get the lug nuts off? ========== "The sin of nearly all left-wingers from 1933 onwards is that they have wanted to be anti-Fascist without being anti-totalitarian." - George Orwell Mr. Orwell was and continues to be correct in this assessment. ========== >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21758302/ >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > He spent two weeks just trying to get the lug nuts off? He must have originated from Greeley, Colorado. -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy On Nov 13, 2:51 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21758302/ > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > The man was taken to Tacoma General Hospital with injuries Wilson described > as severe but not life-threatening. Well????? Did he get the lug nut off or not? > Well????? Did he get the lug nut off or not? >From the story: "It was not immediately clear whether the shotgun blast loosened the lug nut." I would guess this to be an ineffectual tool as well as a dangerous one. Hard to imagine even the nontoxic steel pellets used nowadays for waterfowl hunting doing anything to it (except maybe chewing up the threads toward the end so it's even harder to get off). You can shoot relatively soft lead buckshot at a steel lug bolt and nut for a long time without hurting anything except your brake lines, fender, and legs. (If you shoot anything into anything at very close range, you have to expect at the very least some backsplash from the target material, or, if it's a hard target, a risk of riccochets. This tends to make your day worse, as he learned. A car wheel, with its concave shape as well as hard materials, would be the very picture of something *not* to do this to.) Without invoking adult beverages, can only explain it as a very ill- considered gesture of frustration. Working on cars can do that (especially if the wheel had been put on by somebody a little too proud of the fact that his impact wrench goes all the way up to 11, or rust has made an appearance, or both). Hopefully if his friends stop laughing in time for Christmas, they will show up with one of those truly thoughtful all-occasion unisex gifts: a cross-shaped lug wrench of generous proportions (applying a "coupled torque" makes it far less likely that you'll shear off the lug) one of whose business ends is the right size. And perhaps as a little stocking stuffer, a can of WD-40 to keep in the trunk. These are the weapons of choice for mounting an assault on uncooperative lug nuts when an impact wrench is not available. The foot-long, L- shaped tinkertoy provided with most cars these days is better than gunfire, certainly -- and the sharp end is good for prying off hubcaps -- but leaves a lot to be desired for lug nut removal. Safety first, --Joe On Nov 14, 12:02 pm, Ad absurdum per aspera <jtc...@california.com> wrote: > Without invoking adult beverages, can only explain it as a very ill- > considered gesture of frustration. Working on cars can do that > (especially if the wheel had been put on by somebody a little too > proud of the fact that his impact wrench goes all the way up to 11, or > rust has made an appearance, or both). This is my assessment as well. He simply got frustrated trying to loosen the nut and then totally pissed off grabbed a shotgun to "kill" the offending nut. Dumb for sure, but not as moronic as thinking you could loosen a nut with a shotgun. Since guns are involved liberals have to play the "dumb" part up, but usually they would prefer emotion over reason. "If only one tire is saved" Yadda Yadda! The subject line in this post says more about the current state of media journalism in the country (whether or not it was written by a journalist) than anything else. The media never worries about truth or facts. The goal is always a "good story". This was true even back in the days before they became a propaganda arm of those in power (or wishing to be). However, the leftist media NEVER misses a chance to "sell the product" when the story involves guns. A study by Media Research Center's Culture and Media Institute found that of the big three TV networks in the first 7 months of 2007 aired 650 on gun homicides, but only ran 2 stories on the positive uses of firearms. They stacked the deck 325 to 1 in favor of an anti-gun agenda. Here, we see fallout from such media bias where anyone with a political agenda (such as speeder and drunk driver) use the same political prevarications as the media when discussing any firearm subject. In this case the man is characterized as "insane" or at minimum "retarded" by use of word "idiot" and then that claim is supported by the statement that he used a shotgun "to loosen Lug Nut on car". The article hints at that but certainly doesn't make that claim. It's all about poltical "spin" (meaning careful word choice to give an impression the opposite of the truth). Thus the political message is quite clear: This guy was some goober who thought he could get that nut off by shooting it with a shotgun. There is no evidence that this view of the incident is correct anymore than there is proof that the man as alleged by some of the posters here was a republican. You know, I'm old enough to remember the old days when all of us in America used to laugh at the propaganda sheet "PRAVDA" (means truth) that the USSR used to put out. Now we've got to get a subscription to it to have ANY idea what is going on in the world. Oh how the mighty hath fallen! PS: Good firearm safety lesson here too! "ALWAYS keep your firearm pointed in a safe direction!" And it's important to remember that a "safe direction" is NOT where projectiles can bounce back. I cringe when I see people choosing "toward a cement floor" as a safe direction! One misfire and EVERYBODY gets to enjoy the round! Question;would a 9mm FMJ or JHP penetrate an aluminum wheel rim or a steel wheel rim? (From a moderate distance,not close range,10's of yards) Not the center disc,the rim. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > Question;would a 9mm FMJ or JHP penetrate an aluminum wheel rim or a steel > wheel rim? (From a moderate distance,not close range,10's of yards) I'm guessing it might have a chance, with a square hit, especially toward the closer end of that range. If memory serves, 9mm NATO FMJ ball is considered "combat effective" out to 50 yards. That's a formal definition based on penetration of a specified plate roughly equivalent to an old-fashioned fender; of course the bullet remains potentially deadly to humans much further away. A rim is however such a complicated three-dimensional shape (including some drastic changes on the size scale of a bullet) that the odds of a glancing hit and ricocchet are considerably greater than when shooting at a flat plate. --Joe >Hopefully if his friends stop laughing in time for Christmas, they >will show up with one of those truly thoughtful all-occasion unisex [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >are the weapons of choice for mounting an assault on uncooperative >lug nuts when an impact wrench is not available. A propane torch makes a decent weapon for such as well, but probably not the best thing to be carrying around in your car. SignatureThere's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. [snip] > Well????? Did he get the lug nut off or not? I don't know. I think its the left barrel to loosen and the right barrel to tighten a lug nut. SignaturePaul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ If God is perfect then why did He create discontinuous functions? >[snip] >> >> Well????? Did he get the lug nut off or not? > >I don't know. I think its the left barrel to loosen and the right barrel >to tighten a lug nut. And the butt to open the window? :-) -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy On Nov 15, 9:22 pm, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote: > >[snip] > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -- ROTFL. Don't you remember; that's the purpose of hand grenades? :-) >On Nov 15, 9:22 pm, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver >(Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >ROTFL. Don't you remember; that's the purpose of hand grenades? :-) Don't tell me I've gone and gotten too drunk *AGAIN*. :-/ Ok, so what's the pistol for? And the RPG? I'm really going to have to bone up on my driver's manual.... -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy > >On Nov 15, 9:22 pm, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver > >(Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Ok, so what's the pistol for? And the RPG? I'm really going to have to > bone up on my driver's manual.... Making an opening in traffic when merging. SignaturePaul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ Bumper sticker: You're too close for missiles. Switching to guns. >> >ROTFL. Don't you remember; that's the purpose of hand grenades? :-) >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Making an opening in traffic when merging. Good idea. Excellent sig. The owner of the company I was previously employed by had the following were among bumper stickers plastered on his office door: Driver carries less than $20 worth of ammunition. Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again. -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy >>> >ROTFL. Don't you remember; that's the purpose of hand grenades? >>> >:-) [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again. One of my favorites showed a picture of a 1911 on one side of the sticker and the head of JC complete with blood and thorns on the other. In the middle it said "Honk, if you wish to meet Jesus." SignatureRD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse >>>> >ROTFL. Don't you remember; that's the purpose of hand grenades? >>>> >:-) [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >and the head of JC complete with blood and thorns on the other. In the >middle it said "Honk, if you wish to meet Jesus." Those are good. Or: Pardon my driving; I'm reloading. If you don't like my driving, stay off the sidewalk. We're all here, because we're not all there. -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy > >>>> >ROTFL. Don't you remember; that's the purpose of hand grenades? > >>>> >:-) [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > We're all here, because we're not all there. One of those yellow caution signs people put in their rear windows: "Yield right-of-way to vehicles with no brakes". SignaturePaul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. >> >>>> >ROTFL. Don't you remember; that's the purpose of hand grenades? >> >>>> >:-) [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >One of those yellow caution signs people put in their rear windows: >"Yield right-of-way to vehicles with no brakes". Nice. A local vehicle repair shop used to have "If you can't stop for a brake job, wave as you go by!" out front of their store :-) -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy >>"Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" >>wrote: [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds > discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy One on a dry cleaners in Denver....."Drive carefully, bloodstains are hard to remove" SignatureRD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse SFB spewed: << ECP removed >> > 66 years old and owns a lincoln continental. He's a moron republican all > right. Prolly a toe tapper too. What's the matter, SFB? You jealous that you didn't think of it first? SignatureLoco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend foams like a Bartlo (and spelling or gramatical errors are left as is): "Hey - necromancer is a criminal coddler. BTW the article says 4X and then it says the BAC was .187 which doesn't make much sense. Not that it matters. Drunk drivers who kill should get life wo parole." Ref: http://tinyurl.com/rqvtg Message ID:i2k082lf3gv2p6h1sosge2bqma6uvce2ft@4ax.com On Nov 13, 9:26 am, necromancer > SFB spewed: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -- Of which: the shotgun to the lug nuts or the toe-tapping? Perhaps SFB uses a shotgun to remove the worn-out sandpaper from the *tars*. The vile and infidel toe tapping swine, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS," left this affront to Allah and all that is Righetous and Holy in rec.autos.driving: > 66 years old and owns a lincoln continental. He's a moron republican all > right. Prolly a toe tapper too. Have you ever driven a car faster than the posted speed limit, infidel? Imam Widdershins > The vile and infidel toe tapping swine, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are > MURDERERS," left this affront to Allah and all that is Righetous and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Imam Widdershins Just a minute there, dood. I notice you called me a toe-tapper and i am not gonna stand for that. I hate republicans as much as i hate democrats. SFB spewed: > Just a minute there, dood. I notice you called me a toe-tapper and i am > not gonna stand for that. I hate republicans as much as i hate democrats. What are you going to do? Follow the Imam to Mecca, you toe tapper? -- necromancer Official Overseer Of Kooks And Trolls In rec.autos.driving > SFB spewed: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Official Overseer Of Kooks And Trolls In rec.autos.driving That would be its plan B, after following Hector to the beer stash and attempting to toe-tap a keg. MLOM: > > SFB spewed: > > > > Just a minute there, dood. I notice you called me a toe-tapper and i am > > > not gonna stand for that. I hate republicans as much as i hate democrats. > > > What are you going to do? Follow the Imam to Mecca, you toe tapper? > That would be its plan B, after following Hector to the beer stash and > attempting to toe-tap a keg. And then getting liquored up and behind the wheel of its beater for that ride to Saudi Arabia...... -- D umber O ver T ime >> The vile and infidel toe tapping swine, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are >> MURDERERS," left this affront to Allah and all that is Righetous and [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Just a minute there, dood. I notice you called me a toe-tapper and i am >not gonna stand for that. I hate republicans as much as i hate democrats. What is your bizarre fascination with toe tapping, fruit loop? By the way, have you ever driven a vehicle faster than the posted speed limit? -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): << reply limited to r.a.d >> > What is your bizarre fascination with toe tapping, fruit loop? I heartell that SFB likes to hang out in the mens rooms at MSP. Sources say that it got kicked out of the bathhouses. > By the way, have you ever driven a vehicle faster than the posted > speed limit? Thinking of SFB, did you catch Mythbusters tonight? They drove (maybe pulled would be a better word) a Lincoln Towncar behind a 747 that had its engines at full throttle. Sounds like a fitting end for SFB and its beater.... ;-P SignatureSpeeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS shows us what an idiot it is yet again: "Idiot. District attorneys are considered part of the police force." --Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS, 7/30/07 Ref: http://tinyurl.com/24a2f5 Msg ID: jaqri.12509$tj6.3395@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net > Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I heartell that SFB likes to hang out in the mens rooms at MSP. Sources >say that it got kicked out of the bathhouses. Probably wasn't tapping it's toes fast enough in the bath houses. :-) >> By the way, have you ever driven a vehicle faster than the posted >> speed limit? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >its engines at full throttle. Sounds like a fitting end for SFB and its >beater.... ;-P Missed that, but it would be a fitting end. But knowing SADDAM, it would "experiment" by passing the jet, then pulling a LLB maneuver. -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): > But knowing SADDAM, it would "experiment" by passing the jet, then > pulling a LLB maneuver. Cool. IIRC, 747s weigh about 450 tons at take off. SFB would be nothing but a small stain on the runway if it tried to pass. That is ASSuming, of course, that it and its beater don't get drawn into one of the engines first (another fitting end for SFB, but a horrible waste of a jet engine). ;-P SignatureAunt Judy demonstrates its lack of understanding of the concept of "</killfile>," and "<killfile>," and what a "thread," is: "Now that takes nerve. You claim to killfile me TWICE in the same thread and you expect people to take you seriously???" Ref: http://tinyurl.com/r5qp9 > Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): >> But knowing SADDAM, it would "experiment" by passing the jet, then [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >engines first (another fitting end for SFB, but a horrible waste of a >jet engine). ;-P I dunno; there's some things even a jet engine won't suck. :-) -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): > > Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): > >> But knowing SADDAM, it would "experiment" by passing the jet, then [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I dunno; there's some things even a jet engine won't suck. :-) As fast as those planes go, the engine might not have the time to recognise the poisons it is ingesting. I do have to revise my previous posts desiring that SFB get run over by a 747, though. I was remiss in one point: the choice of aircraft. The Airbus A380 weighs about 617 tons at takeoff. As such would do a more efficient job of flattening SFB's beater.... ;-P Signature"Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS," admits to being a Red Light Runner on a regular basis: "All the paranoids out there like to claim that RLCs are set up to catch even law-abiding drivers. If that was true, i should have been caught but never have been!!" --Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS (a.k.a, LBMHB/lb-VH, POA, aunt millie ad nauseum) 2/22/07 Ref: http://tinyurl.com/2rwacl Message ID: Xns98DFD82CC5A39riemann1850yahoocom@207.217.125.201 | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21758302/ | [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] | 66 years old and owns a lincoln continental. He's a moron republican all | right. Prolly a toe tapper too. %%%% The moron was definately a Democrat. No self respecting Republican would have been working on the car for 2 weeks much less trying to change a tire. That's what road service is for! Democrats do not use AAA. Can't you feel them circling, honey? Can't you feel 'em schooling around? You've got fins to the left, fins to the right, and you're the only bait in town. -- Fins, Jimmy Buffett >| 66 years old and owns a lincoln continental. He's a moron republican >| all right. Prolly a toe tapper too. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > trying to change a tire. That's what road service is for! Democrats do > not use AAA. HUH? Are you so dumb and helpless you call road service to change a tire? | >| 66 years old and owns a lincoln continental. He's a moron republican | >| all right. Prolly a toe tapper too. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | | HUH? Are you so dumb and helpless you call road service to change a tire? %%%% Sure I'm capable but why have AAA if you are going to change your own flat tire? Changing flat tires is for the poor liberals. Can't you feel them circling, honey? Can't you feel 'em schooling around? You've got fins to the left, fins to the right, and you're the only bait in town. -- Fins, Jimmy Buffett > Changing flat tires is for the poor liberals. Whereas conservatives have their chauffeurs do it for them...... >> Changing flat tires is for the poor liberals. > > Whereas conservatives have their chauffeurs do it for them...... ...And Libertarians use run-flats... Signature"Carl sleeps in his own bed [with] his yappy stupid a.s dog I want to punt out the balcony and into the dumpster." - Erika Lozaga Message-ID: <1194318485.287974.126750@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> "I respect [Erika's] opinion though--not yours!" - Carl Rogers Message-ID: <1194332588.257951.197540@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com> | > Changing flat tires is for the poor liberals. | | Whereas conservatives have their chauffeurs do it for them...... %%%% I use AAA. Can't you feel them circling, honey? Can't you feel 'em schooling around? You've got fins to the left, fins to the right, and you're the only bait in town. -- Fins, Jimmy Buffett MIAMI -- A Florida man police said was breaking into cars at Miccosukee Resort and Gaming was attacked and killed by a 9-foot alligator while trying to run from police. Investigators said officers responded to reports of car break-ins at a Miccosukee Indian Reservation parking lot located at 500 S.W. 177th Ave. in Miami. One of the men was quickly captured by officers during the incident last week but the other robbery suspect tried to elude officer by jumping into a large pond behind the facility, according to a WJXT-TV report. During the swim, police said, an alligator attacked and killed the man. He was apparently bitten on the head several times. The victim's body was recovered at the bottom of the pond about a day after the reported break-ins. The men were not identified in the report. Meanwhile, an alligator believed responsible for attacking and then killing the man was captured and transported to All American Gator in Pembroke Park. "Some alligators just have a nasty disposition and he was just a nasty gator," owner of All American Gator Brian Woods said. "He seemed to have no fear of people." >>| 66 years old and owns a lincoln continental. He's a moron republican >>| all right. Prolly a toe tapper too. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > HUH? Are you so dumb and helpless you call road service to change a > tire? If the alternative is take two weeks trying to get a lug nut off, yes. What would you do.....keep trying for another two weeks or so? ;) SignatureRD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse >> HUH? Are you so dumb and helpless you call road service to change a >> tire? > >If the alternative is take two weeks trying to get a lug nut off, yes. >What would you do.....keep trying for another two weeks or so? ;) If you're too damned stupid to be able to change a tire, you certainly aren't intelligent enough to operate a motor vehicle. The moron that's the subject of this story is merely providing proof that Darwin was correct. We've got another 110 idiots in the U.S.A. that also provide similar proof on a daily basis. -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy >>> HUH? Are you so dumb and helpless you call road service to change a >>> tire? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > If you're too damned stupid to be able to change a tire, you certainly > aren't intelligent enough to operate a motor vehicle. He couldn't get one lug nut off. Could be stupidity, could be rust, could be the opposite thread. Lots of reasons other that stupidity. Now, the fact that he kept trying for two weeks may be a clue. > The moron that's > the subject of this story is merely providing proof that Darwin was > correct. We've got another 110 idiots in the U.S.A. that also provide > similar proof on a daily basis. 110 out of 300 million. Not bad. How's life on your planet? SignatureRD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse >>>> HUH? Are you so dumb and helpless you call road service to change a >>>> tire? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >He couldn't get one lug nut off. Could be stupidity, could be rust, >could be the opposite thread. Lots of reasons other that stupidity. Agreed. >Now, the fact that he kept trying for two weeks may be a clue. That's the clincher for me. >> The moron that's >> the subject of this story is merely providing proof that Darwin was >> correct. We've got another 110 idiots in the U.S.A. that also provide >> similar proof on a daily basis. > >110 out of 300 million. Not bad. How's life on your planet? Getting better, at the rate of 110 per day. :-) -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy >>>>> HUH? Are you so dumb and helpless you call road service to change >>>>> a tire? [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Getting better, at the rate of 110 per day. :-) LOL! SignatureRD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse >>>| 66 years old and owns a lincoln continental. He's a moron republican >>>| all right. Prolly a toe tapper too. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > If the alternative is take two weeks trying to get a lug nut off, yes. > What would you do.....keep trying for another two weeks or so? ;) I just carry a 18" 1/2" drive breaker bar and socket;it removes the tightest wheel nut.And lifting UP to unscrew allows you to use your leg muscles,more power than your body weight trying to push down.More torque than a 4-way X-style lug wrench,too. Harbor Freight even carries a 25" 1/2 drive breaker bar;even more torque. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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