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Red light camera catches Darwin at work

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necromancer - 19 Nov 2007 05:45 GMT
http://www.whiotv.com/video/index.html

Click on, "search," and use the term, "red light camera," and it should
show a link to the video.

Sorry for no direct link, bu I couldn't find a way to estract a direct
link to the video.

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S&DDAM indicating that it runs red lights:

"You're making a left turn right behind some semi or fedex or ups truck
and you can't see the light but you follow the truck anyway while he
slowly makes the left and when the light is finally visible to you it's
red."

--Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS, 8/8/07
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/26x4o2
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Brent P - 19 Nov 2007 06:16 GMT
> http://www.whiotv.com/video/index.html
>
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> Sorry for no direct link, bu I couldn't find a way to estract a direct
> link to the video.

So much for the effectiveness of the red light camera preventing this
sort of thing. Got a nice clear picture of what happened though.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 19 Nov 2007 13:38 GMT
>> http://www.whiotv.com/video/index.html
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>So much for the effectiveness of the red light camera preventing this
>sort of thing. Got a nice clear picture of what happened though.

: http://mfile.akamai.com/12937/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2007/1113/14583834.200k.asx

Wow, looks like one of gpstard's students was on his way to class!

--

Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.
- Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy
Larry Bud - 19 Nov 2007 14:06 GMT
On Nov 19, 8:38 am, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver
(Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote:
> >In article <MPG.21aaecfc6982355298a...@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, necromancer wrote:
> >>http://www.whiotv.com/video/index.html
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Wow, looks like one of gpstard's students was on his way to class!

WHAT??? Neither SPEED NOR ALCOHOL were the cause of the accident?  How
can that be?
Scott in SoCal - 19 Nov 2007 15:10 GMT
>WHAT??? Neither SPEED NOR ALCOHOL were the cause of the accident?  How
>can that be?

Even the cops know not to take their bullshit too far. :)
Scott in SoCal - 19 Nov 2007 15:09 GMT
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:38:40 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken
Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)"
<drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote:

>>> http://www.whiotv.com/video/index.html
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Wow, looks like one of gpstard's students was on his way to class!

Hey now, you can't blame the Trucker in this instance. The 4-wheeler
clearly ran the red light.

Let's not do what GPSTroll does and tell flagrant lies simply to
impugn someone else.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 19 Nov 2007 15:33 GMT
>On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:38:40 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken
>Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)"
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>Let's not do what GPSTroll does and tell flagrant lies simply to
>impugn someone else.

No, I'm not blaming the trucker. The guy was driving his car to one of
gpstard's classes when the event occurred. Anyone dumb enough to be
one of gpstard's students is dumb enough to drive under a trailer.

--

Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.
- Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy
Scott in SoCal - 19 Nov 2007 16:05 GMT
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:33:48 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken
Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)"
<drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote:

>No, I'm not blaming the trucker. The guy was driving his car to one of
>gpstard's classes when the event occurred. Anyone dumb enough to be
>one of gpstard's students is dumb enough to drive under a trailer.

Oh, OK, I get it now. :)
Scott in SoCal - 19 Nov 2007 15:05 GMT
>http://www.whiotv.com/video/index.html
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Sorry for no direct link, bu I couldn't find a way to estract a direct
>link to the video.

That video made the news all over the country. Still a great watch. :)
Sir Lex - 20 Nov 2007 08:16 GMT
> http://www.whiotv.com/video/index.html
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Sorry for no direct link, bu I couldn't find a way to estract a direct
> link to the video.

Why didn't the truck have a side barrier to prevent such an "under run"
accident occurring?  Surely this would be a requirement in the most
litigious country on the planet!!
necromancer - 20 Nov 2007 12:42 GMT
Sir Lex:
> > http://www.whiotv.com/video/index.html
> >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> accident occurring?  Surely this would be a requirement in the most
> litigious country on the planet!!

Nope. No truck I've seen has such a thing. As poorly as some RR
crossings are in the US (i.e. the grade crossing is up to a foot or more
higher than the highway), sidebarriers would cause a lot of trucks to
get hung up on the tracks.

Overall, though, IMO, if someone is stupid enough to drive up under a
truck like that, they deserve what they get.

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Brent P - 20 Nov 2007 14:18 GMT
>  Sir Lex:

>> Why didn't the truck have a side barrier to prevent such an "under run"
>> accident occurring?  Surely this would be a requirement in the most
>> litigious country on the planet!!

> Nope. No truck I've seen has such a thing. As poorly as some RR
> crossings are in the US (i.e. the grade crossing is up to a foot or more
> higher than the highway), sidebarriers would cause a lot of trucks to
> get hung up on the tracks.

They are not that close to the ground in my memory, but it has been some
years sinve I've been overseas or even looked at picture of a truck so
equiped. Guess I'll go a googling...

http://www.underridenetwork.org/Portals/0/bestCrash_1.jpg
http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/May06/11DetailsOftheMercedesBenzSafetyTruck/
102501006b1925.jpg


> Overall, though, IMO, if someone is stupid enough to drive up under a
> truck like that, they deserve what they get.

Well I think they should be there because it's not always some idiot in
the car that is the problem, but the trucker or a collision punts the car
of someone entirely innocent under the semi.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 20 Nov 2007 15:48 GMT
>>  Sir Lex:
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>years sinve I've been overseas or even looked at picture of a truck so
>equiped. Guess I'll go a googling...

It's not that they are necessarily close to the ground; it's just that
in some locations the grade itself was either designed or fabricated
by morons. Over the past 10 years or so, as time permits, they've been
doing some clean up of the mess in this area, but as it is, we're not
to the point where trucks can clear all our local crossings.

>http://www.underridenetwork.org/Portals/0/bestCrash_1.jpg
>http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/May06/11DetailsOftheMercedesBenzSafetyTruck/
102501006b1925.jpg

[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>the car that is the problem, but the trucker or a collision punts the car
>of someone entirely innocent under the semi.

--

Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.
- Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy
Scott in SoCal - 20 Nov 2007 14:35 GMT
>> http://www.whiotv.com/video/index.html
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>accident occurring?  Surely this would be a requirement in the most
>litigious country on the planet!!

Or how about side curtain airbags that go all the way around the
perimeter of the trailer?
John B. - 20 Nov 2007 16:15 GMT
> Or how about side curtain airbags that go all the way around the
> perimeter of the trailer?

...Or why not make the whole truck out of RUBBER so clowns like this will
simply BOUNCE OFF instead?

The cops are saying "driver inattention".  Uhm, ya think??  If this mope
ever drives again, I'm SURE he'll be looking out for red lights AND large
trucks - as he should've been doing in the frickin' FIRST place.

John B.
 
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