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Last Updated: 12:43 am | Monday, December 3, 2007 Train severs woman's foot BY WILLIAM A. WEATHERS http://news.enquirer.com ELMWOOD PLACE - A 49-year-old Elmwood Place woman's foot was severed this morning when she was struck by train at the dead end of Beech Street. ( 39.18786, -84.48537 ) The woman, who name has not been released pending notification of relatives, was transported to University Hospital where she was in stable condition before going into surgery, Police Chief William Peskins said this afternoon. The woman was crossing the tracks when she stumbled on the first rail and fell onto the second rail, Peskins said. The victim was not crossing at a designated railroad crossing, the police chief said. The Norfolk Southern train had just started up about a block away and was traveling about 6 mph before it struck the woman about 6:30 a.m., Peskins said. The engineer said he saw the woman fall onto the tracks and attempted to stop, he said. "He stopped right on top of her leg," Peskins said. The police chief said his department will be stepping up enforcement of people trespassing by not crossing the tracks at designated railroad crossings. In the past 18 months, nine people have been struck by trains in the village. Two people were killed, Peskins said. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20071203/NEWS01/312030045/ ----- - gpsman gpsman: > Last Updated: 12:43 am | Monday, December 3, 2007 > Train severs woman's foot > BY WILLIAM A. WEATHERS http://news.enquirer.com << snip article >> > http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20071203/NEWS0... I have a sure fire way of avoiding trains that has worked for years: Stay off the tracks. -- N exus of S tupid A ssholes In article <45b66315-22c7-4637-926f-14baa86c6104@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, > gpsman: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I have a sure fire way of avoiding trains that has worked for years: > Stay off the tracks. And what do you do if you have to get from one side of the tracks to the other and there is no other way than to cross them? I don't know anyone that flies, and I don't know of any communities that have elevated pedestrian crossings over a significant amount of tracks, do you? > > I have a sure fire way of avoiding trains that has worked for years: > > Stay off the tracks. > > And what do you do if you have to get from one side of the tracks to the > other and there is no other way than to cross them? Not crossing whewn there'sa train aaproaching sound like a sensible option ! 9 people hit in this one village in the last 18 months ? Bo they have a death wish or something ? Or maybe they're all just inbred. Graham >> > I have a sure fire way of avoiding trains that has worked for years: >> > Stay off the tracks. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >9 people hit in this one village in the last 18 months ? Bo they have a death >wish or something ? Or maybe they're all just inbred. Just preoccupied and/or in a hurry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCu7tvpPPIU >>> > I have a sure fire way of avoiding trains that has worked for years: >>> > Stay off the tracks. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCu7tvpPPIU Ouch. Musta been Carl's wife's brother. -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy On Dec 5, 8:56 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I have a sure fire way of avoiding trains that has worked for years: > > > Stay off the tracks. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 9 people hit in this one village in the last 18 months ? Bo they have a death > wish or something ? Or maybe they're all just inbred. Large objects can cause an optical illusion of how fast they are moving because of the size of the object itself. Throw that in with some other surroundings that could make the appearance of the train even slower, and you've got 9 people hit. > On Dec 5, 8:56 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > some other surroundings that could make the appearance of the train > even slower, and you've got 9 people hit. Wow, an optical illusion with a train coming at you at 6 mph? It's......getting......closer......and......closer... Actually, what you say makes perfect sense when talking about something like Amtrak's Acela. On a straight track, you can see it coming, coming and coming - like it's taking forever, but when it comes up to go by you - it's THERE. Yes, there's a definite illusion point there between the time it gets closer and it's gone by! John B. > > On Dec 5, 8:56 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Absolutely. Even more pronounced with even larger objects. I know a certain boater who once mistook a gigantic ship for East Boston until he realized he couldn't see the lights from Logan. He was motoring toward the ship in the dark. Um... new shorts please!!! >On Dec 5, 8:56 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >some other surroundings that could make the appearance of the train >even slower, and you've got 9 people hit. Regardless of the size of an object, you should *never* move in front of that object unless you're absolutely certain of it's velocity, and are confident in your ability to make the crossing. I think a lot of drivers have no clue as to the speed of approaching traffic, and merely look to make sure there's enough distance between themselves and the traffic for them to move in front of that traffic. Fortunately Darwin claims a fair number of those imbeciles. -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy >> > I have a sure fire way of avoiding trains that has worked for years: >> > Stay off the tracks. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >9 people hit in this one village in the last 18 months ? Bo they have a death >wish or something ? Or maybe they're all just inbred. I'll vote for inbreeding. For a number of years, there was at least one death each summer on a railroad trestle nearby. The trestle is several hundred feet above a very shallow rock filled creek, and is fairly lengthy. Seems the dumb a.s kids that lived near the bridge liked to use it to cross over to the other side of the river, so they kept lining up for Darwin awards. They *always* favor the shallow river with the rock bed to staying on the trestle, for some reason or another. I've recently taken a journey to the trestle, because I've always maintained that, with prudence, an idiot crossing the bridge might be able to lie down on the side of the bridge, away from the rails, to allow the trains to pass. There appears to be enough room to do this if one has their wits about 'em, but I think the inbreeding precludes that. If anything, there is sufficient signage on both sides of the trestle to indicate the danger, but knowing the neighborhood, I'm not sure the written word is of any value to it's inhabitants. I know one thing; if I *had* to cross the bridge, I would wait one side until a train passed through, then make across the bridge post-haste. -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy >In article ><45b66315-22c7-4637-926f-14baa86c6104@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, >> I have a sure fire way of avoiding trains that has worked for years: >> Stay off the tracks. > >And what do you do if you have to get from one side of the tracks to the >other and there is no other way than to cross them? Use the underpass. :) >In article ><45b66315-22c7-4637-926f-14baa86c6104@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >that flies, and I don't know of any communities that have elevated >pedestrian crossings over a significant amount of tracks, do you? It's called diligence. It's how I grew up and played around railroad switching yards without getting killed. -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy Shawn Hirn: > And what do you do if you have to get from one side of the tracks to the > other and there is no other way than to cross them? I don't know anyone > that flies, and I don't know of any communities that have elevated > pedestrian crossings over a significant amount of tracks, do you? I can count on one hand the number of times I have needed to cross RR tracks while on foot.  Signature"We act like crazy people talking to ourselves Crashing cars in conversation while that sh.t flies off the shelf The information superhighways locked up like a L.A. traffic jam." --Jimmy Buffett > Shawn Hirn: >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I can count on one hand the number of times I have needed to cross RR >tracks while on foot. I can count on both hands the number of years where I've spent at least one day out of the week playing beside or on the tracks. You take enough ballast and put it closely together on the rail, and when the train goes by it sounds like a machine gun. I don't need any hands to count the number of times I didn't move off the tracks when I heard the horn. -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy On Dec 5, 11:03 pm, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" > I can count on both hands the number of years where I've spent at > least one day out of the week playing beside or on the tracks. You > take enough ballast and put it closely together on the rail, and when > the train goes by it sounds like a machine gun. I live right by the traintracks, and walking the tracks is a very common way to get around in my area. I see more foot traffic walking down the tracks than I do walking down my street. Even with the Acela coming through, I've yet to hear of anyone getting clipped by the train, nor have I been hit. > I don't need any hands to count the number of times I didn't move off > the tracks when I heard the horn. This sentence sent my coffee into my schnoz. > Shawn Hirn: >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I can count on one hand the number of times I have needed to cross RR >tracks while on foot. When I was a kid, I would hang out by the train station in the afternoon and wait for my dad's train to arrive. I was all over the tracks of a triple-track mainline every weekday. Starting in the spring of 2000, I used to either cross or walk along RR tracks every day at lunchtime; My office was on the wrong side of the tracks from the sandwich place. Did that for 5 years. When I started commuting to work by train, I crossed RR tracks twice a day to get to/from the station. It was either that or WALK OVER A MILE to get to the "legal" entrance. It's all about situational awareness and keeping your wits about you. >gpsman: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >I have a sure fire way of avoiding trains that has worked for years: >Stay off the tracks. OMFG! But how ever can you do that without nanny gubment instructing you as to how? -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy In article <ef6a8e0e-0006-45be-b0a7-4406340be5ea@w40g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, > Last Updated: 12:43 am | Monday, December 3, 2007 > Train severs woman's foot [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > of people trespassing by not crossing the tracks at designated > railroad crossings. I guess you haven't spent much time around trains. They can be virtually silent, even in quiet areas sometimes. No one is free from making mistakes. Obviously, this woman simply forgot to look before she crossed those tracks or she underestimated how long it would take her to cross, which is certainly a possibility because her foot got stuck on a rail. >I guess you haven't spent much time around trains. They can be virtually >silent, even in quiet areas sometimes. No one is free from making >mistakes. Obviously, this woman simply forgot to look before she crossed >those tracks or she underestimated how long it would take her to cross, >which is certainly a possibility because her foot got stuck on a rail. I've spent a fair amount of time around trains. As of yet, I've yet to encounter a train in motion that wasn't blaring it's horn as a warning, and that's above the noise those large diesel engines make just moving the thing! Another thing I've never been able to understand about accidents involving trains: How the hell can you not realize there is increased danger in their proximity? How the hell do you not see a set of tracks and say to yourself: "It's possible that one of those trains, with it's 60 ton locomotive(s) and who knows how many cars, will come along at a reasonable velocity, so I better be even more alert in this location." Sounds like Darwin's doing his job. -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:43:03 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote: >I've spent a fair amount of time around trains. As of yet, I've yet to >encounter a train in motion that wasn't blaring it's horn as a >warning, and that's above the noise those large diesel engines make >just moving the thing! Not to mention the noise the tracks make as the train approaches. Quite often I can hear the "singing" of the rails long before I hear a horn or the sound of a diesel prime mover. >On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:43:03 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken >Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Quite often I can hear the "singing" of the rails long before I hear a >horn or the sound of a diesel prime mover. I have never paid that much attention to the rails, but I'll do so at the next opportunity. -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy > The victim was not crossing at a designated railroad crossing 'Nuff said. Graham >> The victim was not crossing at a designated railroad crossing > > 'Nuff said. So what? I've ridden numerous through-the-woods bicycle paths where one just crosses the track. No 'designation' at many of them even if the trail is government built and (supposedly) maintained (I like the ones that aren't improved or maintained much because that keeps the idiots/trail hogs away), just lift the bicycle and cross the tracks. > >> The victim was not crossing at a designated railroad crossing > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that aren't improved or maintained much because that keeps the > idiots/trail hogs away), just lift the bicycle and cross the tracks. Taking care ! Graham > Last Updated: 12:43 am | Monday, December 3, 2007 > Train severs woman's foot [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > The woman, who name has not been released pending notification of > relatives, Like hell. More likely they won't release the name cause she's another drunken illegal. >> Last Updated: 12:43 am | Monday, December 3, 2007 >> Train severs woman's foot [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Like hell. More likely they won't release the name cause she's > another drunken illegal. And what, in the information released so far, causes you to make that assumption? Bugalugs: << snip SFB's crapola >> > And what, in the information released so far, causes you to make that > assumption? God old fashoned all american (sci) xenophobia. Signature-- "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Benjamin Franklin >>> Last Updated: 12:43 am | Monday, December 3, 2007 >>> Train severs woman's foot [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >And what, in the information released so far, causes you to make that >assumption? There's actually two things that lead SADDAM into making that assumption: 1: SADDAM's retarded. 2: SADDAM's delusional. -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy >Last Updated: 12:43 am | Monday, December 3, 2007 >Train severs woman's foot Damned; Darwin was robbed again. -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:23:51 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote: >>Last Updated: 12:43 am | Monday, December 3, 2007 >>Train severs woman's foot > >Damned; Darwin was robbed again. He's working up to it slowly. Now that she's crippled, she'll be too slow to get out of the way next time. :) >On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:23:51 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken >Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >He's working up to it slowly. Now that she's crippled, she'll be too >slow to get out of the way next time. :) You're right, and I'm betting she hasn't learned to be more diligent about her situation. You think she'll file a lawsuit against the railroad or engineer? =)) -- Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. - Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): > You're right, and I'm betting she hasn't learned to be more diligent > about her situation. You think she'll file a lawsuit against the > railroad or engineer? =)) Seriously, probablly both. Signaturenecromancer Deadly Speeder. And PROUD of it, Man!!! |
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