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Rush hour isn't pretty in Atlanta!

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Carl Rogers - 10 Dec 2007 06:17 GMT
Hi Viatologists,

Courtesy of the Tennessean, a Nashville-based newspaper, here's a look at
rush-hour traffic in Atlanta:

http://tinyurl.com/3ycy6m

I foresee many grimaces, teeth-grinding and stressed folk even though this
metro-area has expanded the expressway into multiple through lanes.
Widening on surrounding beltways and arterials may be the next step in
keeping traffic moving forward.

As many of you may know, and on a related note, Atlanta's Interstate 75/85
duplex is one of the most congested thoroughfares--per capita--in the United
States.

Cheers,

Carl Rogers
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necromancer - 10 Dec 2007 06:53 GMT
Carl Rogers

> Hi Viatologists,
>
> Courtesy of the Tennessean, a Nashville-based newspaper, here's a look at
> rush-hour traffic in Atlanta:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3ycy6m

Clicked the link and all I got was a picture of what I presume is
75/85 outside downtown ATL.
Went to http://tennessean.com, BNA's newspaper, found the headline
about the Chargers shocking the Titans to be more interesting. GO
JAGS!

> I foresee many grimaces, teeth-grinding and stressed folk even though this
> metro-area has expanded the expressway into multiple through lanes.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> duplex is one of the most congested thoroughfares--per capita--in the United
> States.

It is? I've driven both 75/85 through the city and 285 around the ATL.
I much prefer 75/85 through (I'm able to get throught the city like
shot through a barrel...), even with the congestion. Much the same as
I prefer to do 95 through JAX as opposed to 295 or 9A around it.

--
Rock Top, you'll always be....
A crappy place to me....
Sorry a.s Rocky Top....
Go to hell, Tennessee!
Comrade Monster Sound - 10 Dec 2007 12:35 GMT
> Carl Rogers
>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> Sorry a.s Rocky Top....
> Go to hell, Tennessee!

That doesn't look so bad. traffic appears to be moving fairly well,
actually. I'd trade that for the Cross-Bronx Expressway or the NJ
Holland Tunnel approach.

Comrade Mister Otto Yamamoto
http://mryamamoto.50megs.com
necromancer - 10 Dec 2007 23:46 GMT
Comrade Monster Sound:

> That doesn't look so bad. traffic appears to be moving fairly well,
> actually. I'd trade that for the Cross-Bronx Expressway or the NJ
> Holland Tunnel approach.

That's what I was thinking; that the traffic seems to be flowing
rather nicely. But then, that wouldn't be the first time that krl got
something wrong.....

--
"Two, what in the wide, wide world of sports is a viatologist?"
                                                  --Garth Almgren
JimKG@aol.com - 10 Dec 2007 18:15 GMT
> Carl Rogers
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Clicked the link and all I got was a picture of what I presume is
> 75/85 outside downtown ATL.

I can assure you that photo is NOT I-75/85 through Atlanta, I'm
guessing it's I-20 but honestly I'm not 100% certain that it's ATL at
all in the photo.

> Went tohttp://tennessean.com, BNA's newspaper, found the headline
> about the Chargers shocking the Titans to be more interesting. GO
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> > duplex is one of the most congested thoroughfares--per capita--in the United
> > States.

It's awful!

On I-85 South heading towards downtown traffic starts backing up at
the GA-400 Merge (about 4 miles NE of the I-75/85 Brookwood
Interchange) during late afternoon rush hour, go figure that one out.

Jim K. Georges
lkjlkjlkj - 10 Dec 2007 18:41 GMT
> I can assure you that photo is NOT I-75/85 through
> Atlanta, I'm
> guessing it's I-20 but honestly I'm not 100% certain
> that it's ATL at
> all in the photo.

i agree it's not anywhere along the connector.  I'm
thinking somewhere along I-20 from the east or possibly
I-285 a bit north of I-20... it is Atlanta, you can tell
by the 191 Peachtree St. building (has two parts on top),
the BoA building, etc.  Those outlines match perfectly.
JimKG@aol.com - 10 Dec 2007 20:01 GMT
On Dec 10, 1:41 pm, "lkjlkjlkj"
> > I can assure you that photo is NOT I-75/85 through
> > Atlanta, I'm
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> by the 191 Peachtree St. building (has two parts on top),
> the BoA building, etc.  Those outlines match perfectly.

Looking at the C/D lanes in the lower left of the pic I'm guessing
it's I-20 East of the city, facing NW.

Jim
necromancer - 10 Dec 2007 23:49 GMT
Freewayjim:

> > >http://tinyurl.com/3ycy6m
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> guessing it's I-20 but honestly I'm not 100% certain that it's ATL at
> all in the photo.

Shows how much I know about the ATL, I guess. My experience with the
place being either passing through on 75/85 or in the concourses of
Hartsfield (in the days when I flew DL).

<< snip >>

> It's awful!
>
> On I-85 South heading towards downtown traffic starts backing up at
> the GA-400 Merge (about 4 miles NE of the I-75/85 Brookwood
> Interchange) during late afternoon rush hour, go figure that one out.

--
"Two, what in the wide, wide world of sports is a viatologist?
                                      --Garth Almgren
lkjlkjlkj - 11 Dec 2007 01:52 GMT
> Shows how much I know about the ATL, I guess. My
> experience with the
> place being either passing through on 75/85

here's some shots of the downtown connector (75/85
duplex):

http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2005/05/09/image693935x.jpg
http://bp3.blogger.com/_d9q1ZhPUK6s/RpikNg1_LHI/AAAAAAAAAiM/egRdWYZdjqI/s1600-h/
traffic_10.jpg


both those shots are headed south.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 10 Dec 2007 12:53 GMT
>Hi Viatologists,
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Widening on surrounding beltways and arterials may be the next step in
>keeping traffic moving forward.

Teaching people how to drive would keep traffic moving forward. Since
the average individual can't be bothered with such trivial processes,
though, let's just add more freakin' lanes.

>As many of you may know, and on a related note, Atlanta's Interstate 75/85
>duplex is one of the most congested thoroughfares--per capita--in the United
>States.

NFS, Sherlock?

--

Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.
- Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy
necromancer - 11 Dec 2007 00:41 GMT
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver:

> >Hi Viatologists,
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> NFS, Sherlock?

Is it just me, or does anyone else envision a high squeeky voice (much
like Mickey Mouse's) when they read the words, "Hi viatologists?"

--
necromancer

Official Overseer Of Kooks And Trolls In rec.autos.driving
MLOM - 11 Dec 2007 00:49 GMT
> Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver:
>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yer not alone nec....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d33gDhiBGe4

---

Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are Murderers (SADDAM) admits to being a
pedophile coddler:

"The biggest threat to your kids is not pedophiles, but speeders and
drunk drivers."

Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are Murderers (SADDAM), 28 October 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/4e220f0f9eb0c3bf
necromancer - 11 Dec 2007 00:59 GMT
MLOM:

> > Is it just me, or does anyone else envision a high squeeky voice (much
> > like Mickey Mouse's) when they read the words, "Hi viatologists?"
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Yer not alone nec....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d33gDhiBGe4

Good. Its nice to know that I'm not going any crazier than I already
am.... ;)

BTW, I hear you guys got a little weather up that way.

Here's a little something to keep warm by:
http://www.weatherunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=kbqk

--
F ools
E gomaniacs &
M orons
A ssociation
MLOM - 11 Dec 2007 01:34 GMT
> MLOM:
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Good. Its nice to know that I'm not going any crazier than I already
> am.... ;)

Or anyone else.

> BTW, I hear you guys got a little weather up that way.

Mostly south; we in KC just got the appetizer over the weekend.  We're
due for the full meal tonight through tomorrow (though not expected to
be as bad as in ought-deuce).  Guess I better get some Pepto-Bismol,
as that kind of weather can cause indigestion.  It did provide me a
chance to perform a successful function check of the transfer case on
my Jeep.

>  Here's a little something to keep warm by:http://www.weatherunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?que...

OK, rub it in.  ;)

I'm not worried about getting around, as far as handling the
conditions per se.  However, it's the other drivers that concern
me...their IQ and sanity level is somewhere between that of S&DDAM and
that of GPSTroll.  I know, not a wide range there.

In about 3 weeks I'll be taking a 5-day break from the mess by
escaping to Texas (D/FW & SA).

--

C an
H ardly
I nitiate
E xpert
F ootball
S uccessfully
Rich Piehl - 11 Dec 2007 01:48 GMT
>> MLOM:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> chance to perform a successful function check of the transfer case on
> my Jeep.

Sounds like tonight is going to be your turn.  We've been getting it
since Saturday, and this afternoon it finally warmed enough to give us a
bit of a break.  The worst is from Wentzville west and north.  Wright
City, Warrenton, Moscow Mills and Troy are all basically without power.
 I-70 was shut down in Montgomery County for a while on Sunday because
of power lines down across the highway.

The Spfld, MO, Tulsa and OKC folks have been getting hammered pretty
good, too

Take care,
Rich

God bless the USA

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The nuts don't know they're nuts.

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US 71 - 11 Dec 2007 02:39 GMT
> The Spfld, MO, Tulsa and OKC folks have been getting hammered pretty good,
> too

Last report out of Springfield was the worst was north of I-44
My Land of Misery - 11 Dec 2007 03:21 GMT
> > The Spfld, MO, Tulsa and OKC folks have been getting hammered pretty good,
> > too
>
> Last report out of Springfield was the worst was north of I-44

We're getting hammered right now in Kansas City.  The freezing rain
started about an hour ago and is expected to last through tomorrow
with up to 2" ice accumulation, and possible snow tomorrow night of up
to 1" on top of that.  Just entering a vehicle may not be a viable
option, let alone operating it to get to work.
Scott in SoCal - 11 Dec 2007 04:38 GMT
>> > The Spfld, MO, Tulsa and OKC folks have been getting hammered pretty good,
>> > too
>>
>> Last report out of Springfield was the worst was north of I-44
>
>We're getting hammered right now in Kansas City.  

Hector's getting hammered right now, too. :)
MLOM - 12 Dec 2007 00:59 GMT
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:21:10 -0800 (PST), My Land of Misery
>
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>
> Hector's getting hammered right now, too. :)

Big difference...Hector's used to it. :)
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 12 Dec 2007 01:51 GMT
>>> > The Spfld, MO, Tulsa and OKC folks have been getting hammered pretty good,
>>> > too
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Hector's getting hammered right now, too. :)

Always! I'll drink to that (or anything else, for that matter!)

--

Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.
- Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy
MLOM - 12 Dec 2007 02:23 GMT
On Dec 11, 7:51 pm, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver
(Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote:

> >>> "Rich Piehl" <rpiehl5REMOVETHIS...@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

One for you, Hector: it's impossible to spike Everclear.  :)
Premier Bush - 16 Dec 2007 06:30 GMT
>>> BTW, I hear you guys got a little weather up that way.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> The Spfld, MO, Tulsa and OKC folks have been getting hammered pretty
> good, too

Tulsa looks like a war zone.  Power is still out for thousands of homes
(mine just came on this afternoon).  Trees have limbs ripped from them, and
some trees are completely knocked over.  There are large limbs lying in the
roads.  Some of the traffic lights are still not working.  Fun times.
Scott in SoCal - 16 Dec 2007 16:03 GMT
>Tulsa looks like a war zone.  Power is still out for thousands of homes
>(mine just came on this afternoon).  Trees have limbs ripped from them, and
>some trees are completely knocked over.  There are large limbs lying in the
>roads.  Some of the traffic lights are still not working.  Fun times.

Post some snaps!
Premier Bush - 17 Dec 2007 02:22 GMT
>> Tulsa looks like a war zone.  Power is still out for thousands of
>> homes (mine just came on this afternoon).  Trees have limbs ripped
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Post some snaps!

My camera is broken, but here are a bunch of good pictures:

http://flickr.com/search/?q=tulsa%20december%202007%20ice%20storm&w=all
necromancer - 11 Dec 2007 02:25 GMT
MLOM:

> I'm not worried about getting around, as far as handling the
> conditions per se.  However, it's the other drivers that concern
> me...their IQ and sanity level is somewhere between that of S&DDAM and
> that of GPSTroll.  I know, not a wide range there.

I've oft wondered how SFB can handle that beater in the CO winters -
especially with the bald tires....

> In about 3 weeks I'll be taking a 5-day break from the mess by
> escaping to Texas (D/FW & SA).

Drive safely make sure to post some pics.....

> --
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> F ootball
> S uccessfully

--
C orny
A lmanac of
L eftcoast
R oads
O btuse &
G rainy
MLOM - 11 Dec 2007 03:05 GMT
> MLOM:
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I've oft wondered how SFB can handle that beater in the CO winters -
> especially with the bald tires....

I doubt that the sandpaper treadwork helps traction much if at all.

> > In about 3 weeks I'll be taking a 5-day break from the mess by
> > escaping to Texas (D/FW & SA).
>
> Drive safely make sure to post some pics.....

Certainly.  Possibly YouTube additions as well.

> > --
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> O btuse &
> G rainy

V ery
I rritating
A ddition
T o
O nline
L and-travel
O pinion
G roups
I ncluding
S ome
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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 11 Dec 2007 04:25 GMT
>> C orny
>> A lmanac of
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>S ome
>T rolling

/me bows to the creativity of MLOM & necromancer.

--

Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.
- Admiral Hyman Rickover, U.S. Navy
Scott in SoCal - 11 Dec 2007 04:41 GMT
>> C orny
>> A lmanac of
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>S ome
>T rolling

Loser
Of
Zero-IQ
And
Gay
Accusations
MLOM - 11 Dec 2007 22:58 GMT
> >> C orny
> >> A lmanac of
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yep...that's a keeper.

S outhern
C alifornia's
O wn
T roll
T racker

:)
Arif Khokar - 11 Dec 2007 03:35 GMT
>  Here's a little something to keep warm by:
> http://www.weatherunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=kbqk

It's pretty much the same here :)

http://www.weatherunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Bluefiel
d%2C+VA
.
 In fact, it's supposed to get up to 70F tomorrow, so I'm going to get
some riding in :)
l canoe - 11 Dec 2007 04:35 GMT
> Hi Viatologists,
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ********
Tain't nothing pretty about Atlanta Freeway any time of day, or Atlanta,
at all. The place always looks like it needs a good scrubbing then
demolition, just like most Big Cities.
JimKG@aol.com - 11 Dec 2007 05:53 GMT
> > Hi Viatologists,
>
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

I greatly beg to differ. I've seen and photographed almost every city
east of the Mississippi and a few west to boot. Philly, Buffalo,
Newark & Detroit are god-awful places and Baltimore (aside from the
inner harbor) defines "in need of a good scrubbing" and New Orleans is
in a class by itself. Aside from it's overall greatness most of New
York City is pretty much in need of a bath too.

Yes, most big cities have issues and Atlanta is not perfect but it's
newer and cleaner than most other places, especially those on the East
Coast so I'd be interested in what exactly your criteria is and what
you've seen to compare it against.

Jim K. Georges
l canoe - 12 Dec 2007 02:55 GMT
>>> Hi Viatologists,
>>> Courtesy of the Tennessean, a Nashville-based newspaper, here's a look
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> Jim K. Georges
Your point well taken Jim.
I just don't like an ant colony. It's just not me.
Yes, there are way dirtier places like any number in any corner of the
Country.
I wish the best for those that choose to live there. Not many do. Most
commute to work there. That is partially the reason most cities are
dirty. The people don't live there, and have no interest in keep it
clean, maybe. The Business Interest that own the city don't figure
appearance and maintenance help their bottom line, with exceptions, of
course.
One of the things not addressed by most cities is cleanliness. They may
make you mow your lawn but perish the thought of the city scape and
buildings being required to keep clean.
brink - 12 Dec 2007 23:06 GMT
>> Hi Viatologists,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> at all. The place always looks like it needs a good scrubbing then
> demolition, just like most Big Cities.

That seems terribly wasteful.  Why scrubbing and then demolition?  That's
like hanging someone and then burning them at the stake.

Why don't you rethink your assertion and choose only one.

brink
Alexander Rogge - 11 Dec 2007 07:25 GMT
> Courtesy of the Tennessean, a Nashville-based newspaper, here's a look
> at rush-hour traffic in Atlanta:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I foresee many grimaces, teeth-grinding and stressed folk even though
> this metro-area has expanded the expressway into multiple through lanes.

That roadway looks dangerous with those excess lanes.  Maybe there
wouldn't be so many traffic jams if all drivers kept right except to
pass, yielded on the entrance lanes, and accelerated evenly with the
traffic in front of them.
brink - 12 Dec 2007 23:08 GMT
>> Courtesy of the Tennessean, a Nashville-based newspaper, here's a look at
>> rush-hour traffic in Atlanta:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> yielded on the entrance lanes, and accelerated evenly with the traffic in
> front of them.

Life would be so much simpler for parents if children always obeyed them...
also, people should not smoke, eat sensibly, exercise regularly, and always
practice good oral hygeine.

brink
Alexander Rogge - 13 Dec 2007 03:03 GMT
> Life would be so much simpler for parents if children always obeyed
> them...

Those "parent" drivers with their bad driving skills shouldn't be
obeyed.  MSMD!
 
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