As I (mis-?)understand the technology, the voice data goes directly from one
phone to the other (within range), and can do so even in areas without cell
towers or cellular service.  Of course, not ever having used push-to-talk,
let alone in the remote areas I've visited lately, I can't vouch for that.

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Oscar Voss - oscar.voss@comcast.net - Arlington VA

my Hot Springs and Highways pages:  http://home.comcast.net/~oscar.voss/
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Do you know every law? There must be millions of pages of
city,county,state, and federal law. Even the so-called elected
legislators don't read or know what's in the bills they put into law. Nobody
besides those that wrote it read the few hundred pages of the patriot
act before it was made law. That's why titles like 'Patriot Act' are
chosen, because that's as far as many legislators go. The summaries are
also often rather misleading too.

I'll make up an example, call it the 'child health assurance act of 2012'
The summary is 'An act to protect children from disease using
vaccinations'. Now who could vote against that? Well deeper in the law it
will make it so people harmed by the vaccines cannot sue the drug
companies, it will mandate Hg in the vaccines, it will force local schools
to get 100% of the kids to take them or lose federal funding, etc and so
forth. That's how legislation works in this country. The devil is down in
the details. Anyone voting against this fictional example of a bill would
be labeled as 'hating children' or some such.

My personal experience shows that judges and cops don't even know the law.
When confronted on their ignorance they will use power with statements
like 'I know the law' or 'you can't tell me what the law is' or 'how dare
you ask me to read the law'. They will refuse to even look at the law as
written and go about their jobs doing what they are told.

The US is a nation of ticky-tacky laws that are selectively enforced and
enforcement of what some people think is the law. Few actually read the
laws and legislation. Those who do are typically called 'kooks' and worse
because of what they find is unbelievable by the masses who think the law
is what they are told it is and are too lazy to read it.

IMO It would probably only take a third of the people to know 10% of what
has been going on to have public hangings by morning as mobs with
pitchforks and torches storm the offices of elected office holders.

Don't they? I thought they did.

Merry Christmas to you too.

So how is someone from out of state to know that using a cell phone is
illegal on the roads of Chicago?

St. Louis City does it.  Even to the point of doing truck inspections
including portable scales.  And I see lots of small municipalities do
speed enforcement in the metro area.  Happens all the time.  Sometimes
they'll even do a joint operation with Missouri Highway Patrol.  I've
seen Highway Patrol, locals and county guys all sitting lined up on an
on ramp just waiting for the next one.

Take care,
Rich

God bless the USA

Take care,
Rich

God bless the USA

Philadelphia always handled its own enforcement.  Recently the state
police were supposed to take it over to free up city cops for other
work, but that may have not gone through.

Here I go again where I, the only person who remembers the news some
years back has go digging for it. I'm just that kooky guy who has a
memory longer than ten minutes.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_20010208/ai_n13896528

Local police join forces with troopers
Chicago Sun-Times,  Feb 8, 2001  by FRAN SPIELMAN

Chicago police officers have written 82 tickets for speeding, driving on
the shoulder and following too closely since Monday, when they joined the
State Police in patrolling 53 miles of city expressways.

Police Supt. Terry Hillard quietly negotiated the change in response to
complaints that speeding was rampant because State Police patrols were
not visible enough.
<...>
"The agreement was made in 1985 under (former Mayor) Harold Washington.
I wanted to change it under (former Police Supt. Matt) Rodriguez, and
Rodriguez said it would cost too much money. Rodriguez didn't understand
that the saving of lives is not about a price."

Over time, Beavers predicted, Chicago police officers would write "five
times as many tickets" as the State Police.
<...>

Then why did city of chicago need an agreement with the state to do it?
Daley, who rips up airports in the middle of the night could have just
sent the cops out there if what you say were at all true.

Suburban cops are quite obviously not allowed to set up their
speed traps on the interstates. Sorry. Otherwise every suburb would have
it's revenue gathering cops on the interstates where the big money is.
Instead they limit themselves to where interstates become state routes
and US hwys. IL394, IL53, etc. There's got to be a reason one doesn't see
the local yokels out the expressways running radar. I vaguely remember the
town I grew up in getting smacked down because they started running
speed traps on the interstates that go through it.

You won't see a local cop or a c(r)ook county mounty on the I290/IL53
section running a speed trap. You will see them in the plain IL53 part.
Same with 41, where it is I94, no local cops, north of the edens spur,
local PD. The local PDs do not set up south of the split IME. I've never
seen a suburban cop running a speed trap on I294, I90/94, I55, I57, I355,
or I290. Ever. When I see a local cop on an expressway, he isn't even in
the same town that's on the side of his cruiser and generally diving
about 80-85 mph.

It's the ISP's turf either by agreement or by law. I don't know which,
but I know the suburban towns aren't fishing on the expressway out of the
goodness of their hearts. Without an agreement from the state, they
aren't out there.

You seem to be refering to the 1985 agreement... from the same
article:

"State Police have had exclusive control over Chicago area expressways
since 1985. That's when 12 months of negotiations between Washington and
Gov. James R. Thompson produced an agreement that transferred
responsibility to the state in exchange for the right to sell lottery
tickets at O'Hare Airport."

Another piece of two+ decades out of date information no doubt.

It's a private toll road 'leased' to sintra, represented by Rudy Guiliani
in the USA.