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greg3347 - 28 Dec 2007 03:26 GMT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8&feature=related

Citizens are being butchered while Congress refuses money to build
border fence.

greg
Timberwoof - 28 Dec 2007 04:10 GMT
In article
<1060ab74-f2db-4ed6-8714-c7c99068a429@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8&feature=related
>
> Citizens are being butchered while Congress refuses money to build
> border fence.

How would you pay for it? Would you work on it? On the southern border
of Arizona? Maybe Congress could make a law to round up all the
illegals, make them build it, then pitch them over it. :/

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Roughrider50 - 28 Dec 2007 06:14 GMT
>In article
><1060ab74-f2db-4ed6-8714-c7c99068a429@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>of Arizona? Maybe Congress could make a law to round up all the
>illegals, make them build it, then pitch them over it. :/

That's a start.

.
"To take from one, because it is thought that his
own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much,
in order to spare others, who, or whose fathers have not
exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate
arbitrarily the first principle of association,
'the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his
industry, and the fruits acquired by it.'"
-- Thomas Jefferson

Many of you are well enough off that the
tax cuts may have helped you.
We're saying that for America to get back on track,
we're probably going to cut that short and not give it
to you. We're going to take things away from you on
behalf of the common good.
Hillary Clinton
Timberwoof - 28 Dec 2007 07:25 GMT
> >In article
> ><1060ab74-f2db-4ed6-8714-c7c99068a429@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
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>
> That's a start.

You're too serious for your own good: your irony meter is broken.

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P. Roehling - 28 Dec 2007 07:58 GMT
> You're too serious for your own good: your irony meter is broken.

What ever became of that pegged irony meter url, anyhow?
Timberwoof - 28 Dec 2007 20:14 GMT
> > You're too serious for your own good: your irony meter is broken.
>
> What ever became of that pegged irony meter url, anyhow?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/tomdynia/Ironymeter.jpg

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richard - 28 Dec 2007 04:27 GMT
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8&feature=related
>
>Citizens are being butchered while Congress refuses money to build
>border fence.
>
>greg

Not a chain link fence. A "China wall". Turn it into a tourist
attraction and sell tickets.
Seth Hammond - 28 Dec 2007 04:32 GMT
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8&feature=related
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> Not a chain link fence. A "China wall". Turn it into a tourist
> attraction and sell tickets.

It's not a true barrier unless it completely encircles the USA.  Anything
less is mere deterrent - at best.  One hundred thousand miles should do it.
Harbors, beaches, wheat fields, desert - the works.  Mexicans will be glad
to build it.
gringo - 28 Dec 2007 05:24 GMT
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>
>  

they will also be glad to cut it to pieces.  Show me a 50' fence, I'll
show you a 50' ladder.

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Twaing Mutagowing - 28 Dec 2007 12:41 GMT
> Not a chain link fence. A "China wall". Turn it into a tourist
> attraction and sell tickets.

If you want safety and security for the US, the new Great Wall needs
to encircle Washington.  Cut all communications wires going in or
out, flood the local airspace with high power noise.  Add few
strategically placed surface-2-air missiles to deny all aircraft.

TaDa!  The terrorists are safe in their own little shithole and the US
is safe from them!  :-)
Matthew T. Russotto - 28 Dec 2007 15:43 GMT
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8&feature=related
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>Not a chain link fence. A "China wall". Turn it into a tourist
>attraction and sell tickets.

How about 2 14-foot concrete walls, topped with concrete pipe, with
guard towers every few hundred feet and automated machine gun
emplacements between the walls? It's the East Ger^W^WAmerican Way.
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Tim - 30 Dec 2007 08:27 GMT
> Not a chain link fence. A "China wall". Turn it into a tourist
> attraction and sell tickets.

That's all it would be good for. China's wall never kept any invaders
out.

If they couldn't go around it, they bribed their way past the guards.
Alan Moore - 29 Dec 2007 00:20 GMT
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8&feature=related
>
>Citizens are being butchered while Congress refuses money to build
>border fence.

Do you think a fence would do any good? And if so, why? It sounds like
a waste of money to me, unless the fence builders are critical to the
national economy...

Al Moore
DoD 734
Polarhound - 29 Dec 2007 00:34 GMT
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8&feature=related
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> a waste of money to me, unless the fence builders are critical to the
> national economy...

Here's a start:

1.  Make submission of I-9 forms mandatory.  No match?  No job.

2.  Pull business licenses of companies repeatedly caught hiring illegals.

3.  Begin enforcing Title 18, Part I, Chapter 115, Section 2384 of the
US code:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sup_01_18_10_I_20_115.html

"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place
subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire... ...or by
force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the
United States... ...they shall each be fined under this title or
imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."
Studemania - 29 Dec 2007 00:53 GMT
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8&feature=related
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> United States... ...they shall each be fined under this title or
> imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."

I don't carry my ID or citizenship around - I don't even know
what one is. Soon only a passport will let me back in the
country from Canada or Mexico. My DL or retired military ID
won't do it.
(I think that I'll ask the man behind the PO desk for his
Birth Certificate the next time I buy stamps.)

Do you carry your passport at work to show that you're OK?
Polarhound - 29 Dec 2007 01:13 GMT
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8&feature=related
>>>> Citizens are being butchered while Congress refuses money to build
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>
> Do you carry your passport at work to show that you're OK?

Nice try at shifting the argument to some completely irrelevant point.

Why don't you try again, this time keeping to the specific topic at hand?
Studemania - 29 Dec 2007 02:00 GMT
> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8&feature=related
> >>>> Citizens are being butchered while Congress refuses money to build
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>
> - Show quoted text -

The whole topic is irrelevant to the problems this nation
faces. Spit in the ocean.
Illegal immigrants taking jobs that the normal residents of
the US decline to take is piffle. Falling for the foolishness
of needing a passport is a dead sunk drawn across the track
of the prey.
Counting angels on the head of a pin is as worthy as what
you are spending your time on.
I visit for fun - you're doing as the puppetmaster desires.
P. Roehling - 29 Dec 2007 05:39 GMT
> I visit for fun - you're doing as the puppetmaster desires.

Oh boy; what a maroon.
Studemania - 29 Dec 2007 05:53 GMT
> > I visit for fun - you're doing as the puppetmaster desires.
>
> Oh boy; what a maroon.

Sometimes, I'll look at a title and if it looks like it was put there
by a mouth-breather, and I have time to kill, I'll toss out some bait
and see what sucker grabs it.
P. Roehling - 29 Dec 2007 06:19 GMT
> Sometimes, I'll look at a title and if it looks like it was put there
by a mouth-breather, and I have time to kill, I'll toss out some bait
and see what sucker grabs it.

Sure.
Studemania - 29 Dec 2007 20:18 GMT
> > Sometimes, I'll look at a title and if it looks like it was put there
>
> by a mouth-breather, and I have time to kill, I'll toss out some bait
> and see what sucker grabs it.
>
> Sure.

One of my favorites is along the line of auto safety is, "A non-
speeder can pass a speeder."
Alan Moore - 30 Dec 2007 02:43 GMT
>I don't carry my ID or citizenship around

Neither do I, when here in the states. In order to get my present job,
however, I had to identify myself very thoroughly indeed, as a
security clearance was also necessary. They told me what to bring in,
and I brought it. It was no problem.

>- I don't even know
>what one is. Soon only a passport will let me back in the
>country from Canada or Mexico. My DL or retired military ID
>won't do it.
>(I think that I'll ask the man behind the PO desk for his
>Birth Certificate the next time I buy stamps.)

You'd be in violation of anti-discrimination laws if you did. Now if
you were going to hire him, you could reasonably ask him to bring
proof that he can legally work here, and his birth certificate,
together with some proof of identity would do that.

>Do you carry your passport at work to show that you're OK?

I sure do in those circumstances when it might be required, as, for
example, when travelling abroad.

Al Moore
DoD 734
Alan Moore - 30 Dec 2007 02:39 GMT
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8&feature=related
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>United States... ...they shall each be fined under this title or
>imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."

I'm pretty much in favor of all that. I note that fences are
completely absent from your list, and that the presence or absence of
a fence would make no difference to the effect of those policies.

Al Moore
DoD 734
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 29 Dec 2007 16:51 GMT
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8&feature=related
>
> Citizens are being butchered while Congress refuses money to build
> border fence.
>
> greg

The border fence won't do any good.  It's just another moneymaking
boondoggle for the contractors.  What we need is for each state to
announce there will be no prosecution for crimes against illegals. The
muds would then have no choice but to self-deport.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 29 Dec 2007 17:09 GMT
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8&feature=related
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>announce there will be no prosecution for crimes against illegals. The
>muds would then have no choice but to self-deport.

Heard recently they are self-deporting; seems the economy here has
turned into such a pile of sh.t that they're finding more reasons to
return home. LMAO.

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Matthew T. Russotto - 30 Dec 2007 01:45 GMT
>Heard recently they are self-deporting; seems the economy here has
>turned into such a pile of sh.t that they're finding more reasons to
>return home. LMAO.

Doubt it will amount to much.  The Mexican government has a talent for
screwing up its economy unsurpassed further north, even by Jimmy Carter.
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necromancer - 01 Jan 2008 13:14 GMT
Matthew T. Russotto:

<< reply limited to r.a.d >>

> Doubt it will amount to much.  The Mexican government has a talent for
> screwing up its economy unsurpassed further north, even by Jimmy Carter.

Carter is nothing compared to the current occupant of the whitehouse.
Matthew T. Russotto - 01 Jan 2008 19:25 GMT
> Matthew T. Russotto:
>
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>
>Carter is nothing compared to the current occupant of the whitehouse.

Unemployment, interest rate, and inflation figures say otherwise.

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necromancer - 01 Jan 2008 13:15 GMT
Matthew T. Russotto:

<< reply limited to r.a.d >>

> Doubt it will amount to much.  The Mexican government has a talent for
> screwing up its economy unsurpassed further north, even by Jimmy Carter.

Carter is nothing compared to the current occupant of the whitehouse.

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necromancer - 29 Dec 2007 17:34 GMT
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> The border fence won't do any good.  It's just another moneymaking
> boondoggle for the contractors.  What we need is for each state to
> announce there will be no prosecution for crimes against illegals. The
> muds would then have no choice but to self-deport.

Just like we are waiting for you to self destruct, though I would be
willing to settle for self incarceration, you toe tapping hypocrite.

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Yes, but never deliberately.  In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
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Alan Moore - 30 Dec 2007 02:44 GMT
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8&feature=related
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>announce there will be no prosecution for crimes against illegals. The
>muds would then have no choice but to self-deport.

And just how do you tell the legal from the illegal immigrants?

Al Moore
DoD 734
johnny@. - 30 Dec 2007 03:14 GMT
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8&feature=related
>>>
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> Al Moore
> DoD 734

Why don't you ask ICE, or the Border Patrol that question, they do it
everyday?
Alan Moore - 31 Dec 2007 00:50 GMT
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8&feature=related
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>Why don't you ask ICE, or the Border Patrol that question, they do it
>everyday?

Yeah, but they aren't trying to commit crimes against illegals only.

"Escuse, me, Sir, I'm wanting to kill someone, but am not interested
iun being punished for it. Are you an illegal alien?"

Al Moore
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Don Gabacho - 30 Dec 2007 03:32 GMT
> And just how do you tell the legal from the illegal immigrants?

Guess what. They all don't look alike.
 
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