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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / January 2008Beijing's Third Ring Road
Hi Viatologists, It comes w/ deep sadness that former Pakistani Prime Minster Bhutto has passed. As a symbol of progressive thought in a country w/ vocal and active extremists, Ms Bhutto helped modernise the perception and belongingness of women in the government. Her assassination is a step backwards for a promising country that has shown great signs of stability since the partition took place. From Karachi to Lahore to Islamabad to the Northern Areas, the country will undergo solace and reflection over the next three days. The Worldwide Highway Library offers its condolences to anyone of Pakistani descent who is affected by the tragedy--this horrendous act does not reflect Pakistan's people as a whole. The wheels of motion must move forward, and in doing so, so will progress. The Worldwide Highway Library continues its venture into Beijing, the capital of the PRC. The past couple days, we took a look at some radial roads in the Northern City: the Badaling Expressway and the Airport Expressway. Today, we begin a venture into the ring roads that support the radii. There are five ring roads today in Beijing, with the sixth being planned today! The Third Ring Road is the secondmost one of the five. http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/beijing-third-ring-road.html (If you're scratching your head, dón't be surprised. The "First Ring Road"--a symbolic afterthought for city-centre--doesn't exist.) The Third Ring Road is the "road-centric" liaison between old town and new. #3 offers a connection to all radial expressways, and in doing so, is the busiest ring road in the municipality. It helps deter traffic from the Second Ring Road, which forms a more intimate snuggle around old town. !پھر ملینگے Carl Rogers "Adding human experience to transportology" ******** Calrog.com, Worldwide Highway Library: http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ An integrated media arm in International Transportation Research. Has served your home country and ninety-nine of its worldwide neighbours since 2000, through Internet downstream and published works. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ******** >Hi Viatologists, Hi, Sciontologist! >(If you're scratching your head, dón't be surprised. I'm scratching my head, all right. WTF does the assassination of Benazir Bhutto have to do with the price of roads in China? > On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:45:59 GMT, "Carl Rogers" > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'm scratching my head, all right. WTF does the assassination of > Benazir Bhutto have to do with the price of roads in China? Yeah that was a stretch even for him. >> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:45:59 GMT, "Carl Rogers" >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Yeah that was a stretch even for him. Not really, it's pretty classic CalQaeda. Exploit an unrelated tragedy so as he can show us all how 'progressive' he is. Purely a self-serving action on his part.  SignatureComrade Mister Otto the Duke of Yamamoto http://mryamamoto.50megs.com 'Giving Viatology a bad name since 1898!' > On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:45:59 GMT, "Carl Rogers" > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'm scratching my head, all right. WTF does the assassination of > Benazir Bhutto have to do with the price of roads in China? Has Carl gone bonkers? Go into his Google Groups history and click on any of the posts in a group that doesn't belong (rec.ponds.moderated; rec.music.christian; alt.non.racism; sci.chem, etc). I'm guessing it's more likely Google Groups crapping out than anything else, but that's still strange. >Has Carl gone bonkers? Go into his Google Groups history and click on >any of the posts in a group that doesn't belong (rec.ponds.moderated; >rec.music.christian; alt.non.racism; sci.chem, etc). > >I'm guessing it's more likely Google Groups crapping out than anything >else, but that's still strange. Those appear to be forgeries - the NNTP-Posting-Host is located in Seoul, South Korea. Who could be trying to besmirch CalQaeda's good name? Has Carl managed to piss off the entire continent of Asia with his mindless pabulum? >> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:45:59 GMT, "Carl Rogers" >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I'm guessing it's more likely Google Groups crapping out than anything > else, but that's still strange. Looks like it might be system wide. I've got a few stray ones attributed to me and a few other people I checked have ones also. Looks like GG finally lost its marbles. Signature--Andy > Hi Viatologists, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the Northern Areas, the country will undergo solace and reflection over > the next three days. Yea, rioting is a sign of great solace. The Worldwide Highway Library offers its condolences to anyone of > Pakistani descent who is affected by the tragedy--this horrendous act does > not reflect Pakistan's people as a whole. The wheels of motion must move > forward, and in doing so, so will progress. A library can not offer condolences. A physical object can to convey human expression. It's not even proper personification. > The Worldwide Highway Library continues its venture into Beijing, the > capital of the PRC. The past couple days, we took a look at some radial [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > the busiest ring road in the municipality. It helps deter traffic from > the Second Ring Road, which forms a more intimate snuggle around old town. Since you made up your own names for the roads in Japan are these made up, too? Could you let us know when you're making names up and when you're using widely utilized naming conventions please. Thanks. !??? ?????? That's cute. Who do you think is reading this? All the Urdu speaking members of MTR are in morning. SignatureDon't forget to have your troll spayed or neutered >Since you made up your own names for the roads in Japan are these made up, >too? Could you let us know when you're making names up and when you're >using widely utilized naming conventions please. > >Thanks. See the map in http://www.chinaodysseytours.com/maps/photo/beijing-map-overview.gif Google for other maps. The road rectangle that defines the perimeter of the Forbidden City is the First Ring Road but normally not called that. The southern leg of this 1RR is the Changan Avenue at Tienanmen Square. In the low resolution map the Second and the Third Ring Roads are quite obvious. Larger maps will display similar RR landmarks. These Ring Roads monikers are commonly used to describe them. The Chinese names are hard to remember (for non residents). RRs so described provide a very convenient reference point for it describes the major thoroughfares, of at least three lanes and as much as six lanes one way. Each RR is approximately three(?) miles apart. China's street maps are notoriously devoid of distance scales, a hangover from the Cold War. The RRs have distinctly identifiable north, east, south and west legs. So its very easy to describe where you are and where you want to go accurately in location and in distance. And for the person on the ground it is also very easy to observe the change in road width, roadside ancillary structures, in traffic characteristics to easily count the RRs from your point of origin (as in riding a bus or taxi or driving) and get to your destination with the least mistakes. >>Since you made up your own names for the roads in Japan are these made up, >>too? Could you let us know when you're making names up and when you're [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > monikers are commonly used to describe them. The Chinese names are > hard to remember (for non residents). Okay, so this time he did use them properly. But since, in the past, he has chosen to call roads by names of choosing rather than their given names. Hence my desire to have Carl clarify the situation. You do understand the source of the problem, don't you? SignatureDon't forget to have your troll spayed or neutered >You do understand the source of the problem, don't you? Dunno. Carl is new to <soc.culture.china >. I would think a post on roads should be pretty uncontroversial. > On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:24:46 -0600, "Luxury Yacht" > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Dunno. Carl is new to <soc.culture.china >. I would think a post on > roads should be pretty uncontroversial. Usually not, but the poster in question has often made "posts on roads" where the information was clearly wrong. Nevermind that his posts read like something out of a bad commercial... Froggie >> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:24:46 -0600, "Luxury Yacht" >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Froggie I was going to write some more on interesting sights and inferences one can observe about Beijing from just that one pretty nondescript photo Carl posted. Before I do that can I have an idea what is the agenda of the newsgroups I am cross posting to? > On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:54:44 -0800 (PST), Froggie > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > photo Carl posted. Before I do that can I have an idea what is the > agenda of the newsgroups I am cross posting to? Don;'t worry about RAD, and I think most of us in MTR would like to read it. Go ahead. Is anyone else surprised Krl didn't post in Chinese? Steve A.: > Don;'t worry about RAD, While I can only speak for myself, I do believe some of us RAD'ers would also be interested. > and I think most of us in MTR would like to > read it. So would I. > Go ahead. Don't forget RAD.... ;) > Is anyone else surprised Krl didn't post in Chinese? You mean in bad Chinese? Signature'And then we wonder why the UFO's won't stop by and say hello..." --George Carlin PaPaPeng: > I was going to write some more on interesting sights and inferences > one can observe about Beijing from just that one pretty nondescript > photo Carl posted. Yeah, that's Carl for you. He can post up one picture of a road sign on a 2000 mile long road and that's supposed to tell the whole story of the road. On of of my recently published pages, I posted over 50 pictures of a road that is all of 9 miles long and still feel as if I left something out. But I digress. Please do some writing on the sights in and around Beijing (and post pics if you can do so legally). > Before I do that can I have an idea what is the > agenda of the newsgroups I am cross posting to? IMO, both groups are about autos, highways and driving on those highways. MTR seems geared more toward the infrastructure and RAD is more towards the cars and the laws governing their operation. Signature"What do you call someone who has been in a coma for 6 years? Mr. President" --Jay Leno, 8/3/07 > PaPaPeng: >> I was going to write some more on interesting sights and inferences [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >But I digress. Please do some writing on the sights in and around >Beijing (and post pics if you can do so legally). Yep. I took some pics. How do I post them to the website? >> Before I do that can I have an idea what is the >> agenda of the newsgroups I am cross posting to? > >IMO, both groups are about autos, highways and driving on those >highways. MTR seems geared more toward the infrastructure and RAD is >more towards the cars and the laws governing their operation. >>But I digress. Please do some writing on the sights in and around >>Beijing (and post pics if you can do so legally). > >Yep. I took some pics. How do I post them to the website? www.flickr.com is but one of countless ways. SignatureHalf drunk is a waste of money. >Yep. I took some pics. How do I post them to the website? Another possibility is www.tinypic.com, which doesn't require a user account. I'm not sure about the persistence of uploaded content to either service, though. SignatureHalf drunk is a waste of money. On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:19:36 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote: >>Yep. I took some pics. How do I post them to the website? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I'm not sure about the persistence of uploaded content to either >service, though. I have noticed some of the pictures I uploaded to tinypic a while ago have mysteriously disappeared. Dunno about Flickr, as I don't use it. >On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:19:36 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken >Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >I have noticed some of the pictures I uploaded to tinypic a while ago >have mysteriously disappeared. Dunno about Flickr, as I don't use it. I wonder if they die off due to age, size, or hit frequency. Perhaps I should read the TOS. :-) -- Sarcasm is my sword Apathy is my shield PaPaPeng: > > PaPaPeng: > >> I was going to write some more on interesting sights and inferences [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Yep. I took some pics. How do I post them to the website? www.photobucket.com is the site I use to host images for my webpages (you will need to register, though). And as Hector mentioned, www.flickr.com is a good site also. Signature"If a woman tells you she's 20 and looks 16.. she's 12 If she tells you she's 26, and LOOKS 26... she's damn near 40" --Chris Rock >>> Dunno. Carl is new to <soc.culture.china >. I would think a post on >>> roads should be pretty uncontroversial. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >>Froggie Now be charitible, English is CalQaeda's second language. What his first is is the mystery. > I was going to write some more on interesting sights and inferences > one can observe about Beijing from just that one pretty nondescript > photo Carl posted. Before I do that can I have an idea what is the > agenda of the newsgroups I am cross posting to? Well you got agenda downstream, but if you want an ugly, vicious, dissection of CalQaeda, might I suggest http://theexperience1.ottoyamamoto.net/ It's fantastic. I should know, since I wrote it. I'm also open for guest contributors in the photography department, as well as discounting everything that remains, every day from noon til noon. Thank you. SignatureComrade Mister Otto the Duke of Yamamoto http://mryamamoto.50megs.com 'Yr One Stop Shop for Culture Shock' > On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:24:46 -0600, "Luxury Yacht" > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Dunno. Carl is new to <soc.culture.china >. I would think a post on > roads should be pretty uncontroversial. True, but Carl has a strong tendency to post incorrect information, and when called out for a citation or clarification, he goes on a bent rampage. The real thanks should go out to you (PaPaPeng) for providing us a glimpse into China's roadways through photographs and text, not Carl. Please continue sharing on misc.transport.road, we would be willing to hear more! >>Since you made up your own names for the roads in Japan are these made up, >>too? Could you let us know when you're making names up and when you're [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > monikers are commonly used to describe them. The Chinese names are > hard to remember (for non residents). Okay, so this time he did use them properly. But since, in the past, he has chosen to call roads by names of choosing rather than their given names. Hence my desire to have Carl clarify the situation. You do understand the source of the problem, don't you? SignatureDon't forget to have your troll spayed or neutered |
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