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dacconverter - 29 Dec 2007 08:04 GMT
I never knew that you don't get jail time for killing someone in an
accident.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/28/brandy.fatalcrash.ap/index.html?iref
=mpstoryview


Brandy won't be charged in fatal crash

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- The Los Angeles city attorney's office
said Friday it will not charge Brandy in a deadly December 2006
freeway crash.

Brandy was involved in a fatal accident in December 2006.

Spokesman Nick Velasquez said there is "insufficient evidence" for a
jury to find the 28-year-old actress-singer guilty of misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter beyond a reasonable doubt.

The decision runs counter to a recommendation from the California
Highway Patrol that Brandy, whose real name is Brandy Norwood, be
charged in the December 30, 2006, crash.

Brandy was driving on a Los Angeles freeway when traffic slowed and
her Land Rover smashed into the back of a Honda.

That car was involved in several other collisions. The driver, 38-year-
old Awatef Aboudihaj, died in the accident
Eeyore - 29 Dec 2007 15:10 GMT
> I never knew that you don't get jail time for killing someone in an
> accident.

That's why they're called accidents rather than murders.

Graham
dacconverter - 29 Dec 2007 15:58 GMT
On Dec 29, 10:10 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> > I never knew that you don't get jail time for killing someone in an
> > accident.
>
> That's why they're called accidents rather than murders.
>
> Graham

Studies have shown that motorists driving larger, expensive cars tend
to be less careful when driving. When you have the mentality that you
feel more protected, you're more willing to toss the dice.

Brandy was doing just that. And it has been said that she was text-
message on her cell before she rear-ended the poor sap.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 29 Dec 2007 16:00 GMT
>Brandy was doing just that. And it has been said that she was text-
>message on her cell before she rear-ended the poor sap.

I have a feeling she's going to get her clock cleaned in those
wrongful death suits. I'm certain the attorneys for the family are
going to have a field day with her texting and driving, and hopefully
that will be a wake up call to the rest of the population.

But, they're americans, which means the majority won't learn.

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Eeyore - 29 Dec 2007 17:10 GMT
> > > I never knew that you don't get jail time for killing someone in an
> > > accident.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> to be less careful when driving. When you have the mentality that you
> feel more protected, you're more willing to toss the dice.

News to me. The most careless drivers on the roads are typically young
males (testosterone and all that). Next after them are the owners of
'beaters' who have little to lose financially in the event of a crash.

Fot the most part anyone who can afford an expensive car tends to drive it
with a view to avoiding accidents but even so, certain brands seem to
attract pushy, risk-taking drivers, notably BMW in the UK.

> Brandy was doing just that. And it has been said that she was text-
> message on her cell before she rear-ended the poor sap.

That would certainly (if a provable fact) count very much against anyone in
such a case in the UK as the charge would likely become death by dangerous
driving.

Graham
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 29 Dec 2007 18:15 GMT
>Next after them are the owners of
>'beaters' who have little to lose financially in the event of a crash.

Most of those driving beaters that I've encountered over the years
have been drunks, stoners, or both. That "financial loss" attribute is
casually linked to the motivation and competency characteristics of
the individual involved, as demonstrated by SADDAM.

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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 29 Dec 2007 18:19 GMT
>casually

Oops, meant "causally"; I always get them mixed up.

Although given the context......

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Eeyore - 29 Dec 2007 18:41 GMT
> >casually
>
> Oops, meant "causally"; I always get them mixed up.
>
> Although given the context......

It made perfect sense the other way too !

Graham
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 29 Dec 2007 15:58 GMT
>I never knew that you don't get jail time for killing someone in an
>accident.

It really depends on the circumstances, although if your a senator
from massachusetts, you can get away with murder scott-free.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gsd-t1twGTJHRenBPW5reS5tTmHA

Former Yankees hero charged with manslaughter
16 hours ago

MIAMI (AFP) — Jim Leyritz, a 10-year Major League Baseball veteran who
sparked the New York Yankees to a 1996 World Series victory, faces
manslaughter driving while intoxicated charges after a fatal crash
Friday.

Former major league catcher Leyritz, who turned 44 on Thursday, posted
11,000 dollars bond and was released from jail after being arrested
following the early morning incident in a bar district at nearby Fort
Lauderdale.

The Miami Herald and Miami TV stations reported that Leyritz refused a
drunk driving test and that a passenger in the car struck by Leyritz's
vehicle, a 30-year-old woman, was knocked out of the car and died at
the scene.

"Officers on scene observed Leyritz to have red, watery eyes, a
flushed face and an odor of an alcoholic beverage coming from his
person," Fort Lauderdale police detective Kathy Collins said.

Leyritz, who also faces a property damage charge, faces up to 15 years
in prison and a 10,000-dollar fine if convicted of vehicular homicide,
a second degree felony in Florida. He would also lose his driver's
license for life.

Leyritz played for the Yankees, Anaheim, Boston, San Diego and Los
Angeles in his decade among baseball's elite, his most celebrated
moment coming in 1996 when he smashed a three-run home run off Atlanta
relief pitcher Mark Wohlers in game four of the World Series.

The Yankees lost the first two games of that Series but after
Leyritz's homer managed to level the best-of-seven showdown with a
game-four triumph and went on to capture the crown in six games.

He has since worked as a television commentator.

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necromancer - 29 Dec 2007 16:42 GMT
dacconverter:
> I never knew that you don't get jail time for killing someone in an
> accident.
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/28/brandy.fatalcrash.ap/index.html?iref
=mpstoryview

>
> Brandy won't be charged in fatal crash

<< snip article >>

That's why they are called accidents. Right, Sen. Kennedy?

Though, by the time the lawyers get through with, "Brandy," or whatever
the hell her name is, she won't have a pot to piss in which might be a
worse punishment.

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under law? Or is there one system for the average
citizen and another for the high and mighty?"
               --Senator Ted Kennedy

Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 29 Dec 2007 17:04 GMT
> dacconverter:
>> I never knew that you don't get jail time for killing someone in an
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>the hell her name is, she won't have a pot to piss in which might be a
>worse punishment.

I dunno; I still think both OJ and MJ should be incarcerated.

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necromancer - 29 Dec 2007 17:38 GMT
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein):
> > dacconverter:
> >> I never knew that you don't get jail time for killing someone in an
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> I dunno; I still think both OJ and MJ should be incarcerated.

They both should have been executed. Orenthal for murdering his wife and
MJ for being a freak.

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"Well - that's what our highway terrorists, the speeders and drunk
drivers and red light runners and other criminal drivers do. Over 3000
americans killed every month"

--Speeders  & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS,  1/29/07
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/2rfqhp
Message ID: <Xns98C7BC0AA36FDriemann1850yahoocom@207.217.125.201>

"Another 43,000 americans were killed on our highways=3F"

--Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are DEADLY PSHCHOPATHS, 1/20/07
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/2utsnx
Message ID: <1169317176.400941.294860@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

(And we know they are both YOU, so don't even try to deny it!)

Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 29 Dec 2007 18:33 GMT
>> I dunno; I still think both OJ and MJ should be incarcerated.
>
>They both should have been executed. Orenthal for murdering his wife and
>MJ for being a freak.

So is OJ still looking for Nicole's killer on the golf courses?

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Scott in SoCal - 29 Dec 2007 21:13 GMT
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:33:09 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken
Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)"
<drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote:

>>> I dunno; I still think both OJ and MJ should be incarcerated.
>>
>>They both should have been executed. Orenthal for murdering his wife and
>>MJ for being a freak.
>
>So is OJ still looking for Nicole's killer on the golf courses?

Lately he's been looking for the killer in Las Vegas hotel rooms...
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 29 Dec 2007 22:20 GMT
>On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:33:09 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken
>Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)"
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Lately he's been looking for the killer in Las Vegas hotel rooms...

Bwahahaha. Thanks for bringing me back up to speed. :-)

--

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Harry K - 30 Dec 2007 03:40 GMT
> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:33:09 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken
> Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)"
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Lately he's been looking for the killer in Las Vegas hotel rooms...

I heard he did see the real killer once.  Of course it was on a golf
course and he was bent over trying to see his ball in a water trap...

Harry K
Scott in SoCal - 30 Dec 2007 04:30 GMT
>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:33:09 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken
>> Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)"
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>I heard he did see the real killer once.

In a mirror?
Harry K - 30 Dec 2007 15:17 GMT
> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:40:16 -0800 (PST), Harry K
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

His reflection in the water ;)

Harry K
Scott in SoCal - 29 Dec 2007 18:34 GMT
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:04:18 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken
Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)"
<drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote:

>I dunno; I still think both OJ and MJ should be incarcerated.

OJ will be - just not for his original crime.

There's at least some satisfaction in that.

MJ, OTOH, is broke, and his k00ky lifestyle is about to come to a
screeching halt. When a spoiled rich guy's financial empire crumbles
down around him, it's almost as good as throwing him in prison.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 29 Dec 2007 18:58 GMT
>On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:04:18 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken
>Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)"
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>OJ will be - just not for his original crime.

I had forgotten about his latest "adventure" until I google newsed for
him. I'm not certain if it's a good thing that google news returns
results from thespoof.com in their "news" hits. =))

>There's at least some satisfaction in that.

Yeah, he appears to be fairly hosed. :-)

Maybe he shoulda just been happy with the glove.

>MJ, OTOH, is broke, and his k00ky lifestyle is about to come to a
>screeching halt. When a spoiled rich guy's financial empire crumbles
>down around him, it's almost as good as throwing him in prison.

See prior reference to glove. =))

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necromancer - 30 Dec 2007 05:09 GMT
Scott in SoCal:
> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:04:18 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken
> Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)"
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> There's at least some satisfaction in that.

Would be nice if they could get him into the Tookster's cell, but alas,
he beat that rap....

> MJ, OTOH, is broke, and his k00ky lifestyle is about to come to a
> screeching halt. When a spoiled rich guy's financial empire crumbles
> down around him, it's almost as good as throwing him in prison.

Maybe S&DDAM could get MJ a room at the bathhouse? They do seem to have
similar interests.

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There ain't a hell of alot I can promise to you
But if you want to see Heavens Door
Make out a check for $500 or more!"
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Scott in SoCal - 30 Dec 2007 18:18 GMT
>Maybe S&DDAM could get MJ a room at the bathhouse? They do seem to have
>similar interests.

SADDAM is too old for Michael.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 30 Dec 2007 18:47 GMT
>>Maybe S&DDAM could get MJ a room at the bathhouse? They do seem to have
>>similar interests.
>
>SADDAM is too old for Michael.

You would have never gathered that based on the tone of it's posts.
:-)

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Shawn Hirn - 30 Dec 2007 13:06 GMT
>  dacconverter:
> > I never knew that you don't get jail time for killing someone in an
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> the hell her name is, she won't have a pot to piss in which might be a
> worse punishment.

Why? Does she not have insurance?
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 29 Dec 2007 16:46 GMT
> I never knew that you don't get jail time for killing someone in an
> accident.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> jury to find the 28-year-old actress-singer guilty of misdemeanor
> vehicular manslaughter beyond a reasonable doubt.

How can manslaughter ever be a misdemeanor anyway??
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 29 Dec 2007 17:04 GMT
>> I never knew that you don't get jail time for killing someone in an
>> accident.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>How can manslaughter ever be a misdemeanor anyway??

I *believe* that legislation was sponsored by the dishonorable Ted
Kennedy.

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"Do we operate under a system of equal justice under law? Or is there one system for the average citizen and another for the high and mighty?" ~ Senator Ted Kennedy, 1973

---

When asked if Sentator Kennedy would consider a Presidential Nomination for the next election, Ted responded by stating "I'll drive off that bridge when I come to it."

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Kennedy to Search Iraqi Rivers for WMD
by Scott Ott

(2003-01-21) -- Senator Edward "Ted" Kennedy, D-MA, offered to help the U.N. weapons inspectors by personally searching the bottoms of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers for canisters of gas or biological agents.

The Senator, who had some experience diving on a submerged metal object in 1969, said, "Each citizen must do what he can to support the effort to disarm Saddam. I'm going to see if I can get to the bottom of this thing...as it were. I'm hoping to come up with something...uh...again, as it were."

Sen. Kennedy declined to discuss the specifics of his previous diving experience.

---

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana --- Ted Kennedy announced today that he will lead a team of SCUBA divers to search for any survivors who might be left from the Katrina aftermath.
"I have unique experience in this area," said Kennedy. "We will try and try to dive down and find survivors beneath the flood waters. We will do everything possible. We cannot fail. We must not."
A reporter mentioned to Kennedy that surely there would be no survivors under the flood waters at this point in time. "It wasn't safe," said Kennedy. "How could we dive to find survivors when it wasn't safe? The important thing is that I tried. I did everything I could to dive down and find survivors."

Harry K - 29 Dec 2007 19:56 GMT
> I never knew that you don't get jail time for killing someone in an
> accident.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> That car was involved in several other collisions. The driver, 38-year-
> old Awatef Aboudihaj, died in the accident

You apparently missed the "insufficient evidence" bit.  It happens all
the time, even in outright murders by violence.  If the PA doesn't
have a reasonable chance to prove the case, he won't prosecute.

As for getting jail time for being involved in a fatal accident.  Do
you really advocate going to jail for a fatal accident where you
weren't at fault?  Note that that does not relate to the Brandy case
but it is a direct read off your first sentence.

Harry K
Scott in SoCal - 29 Dec 2007 21:16 GMT
>You apparently missed the "insufficient evidence" bit.  It happens all
>the time, even in outright murders by violence.  If the PA doesn't
>have a reasonable chance to prove the case, he won't prosecute.

Brandy rear-ends another car on the freeway, forcing it into several
other cars and killing the driver. Just how much more evidence does he
need to get a conviction?
Harry K - 30 Dec 2007 03:41 GMT
> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:56:55 -0800 (PST), Harry K
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> other cars and killing the driver. Just how much more evidence does he
> need to get a conviction?

You'll have to ask the PA.  It is his decision.  He says "insufficient
evidence".

Harry K
necromancer - 30 Dec 2007 05:08 GMT
Harry K:
> > On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:56:55 -0800 (PST), Harry K
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> You'll have to ask the PA.  It is his decision.  He says "insufficient
> evidence".

Is that how they say, "bribe," these days?

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Harry K - 30 Dec 2007 15:18 GMT
On Dec 29, 9:08 pm, necromancer
>  Harry K:
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> If Charles Manson was eating Froot Loops on your front porch...."
>                                          --Suicidal Tendencies

I would suspect so.  Also how they can avoid the 'too important to
touch', etc.

Harry K
necromancer - 30 Dec 2007 16:09 GMT
Harry K:
> On Dec 29, 9:08 pm, necromancer
> >  Harry K:
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> I would suspect so.  Also how they can avoid the 'too important to
> touch', etc.

I guess that Good 'Old Sen. Kennedy was being rather the prophet when he
said these words in the .sig:

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under law? Or is there one system for the average
citizen and another for the high and mighty?"
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Shawn Hirn - 30 Dec 2007 13:05 GMT
> >You apparently missed the "insufficient evidence" bit.  It happens all
> >the time, even in outright murders by violence.  If the PA doesn't
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> other cars and killing the driver. Just how much more evidence does he
> need to get a conviction?

Gross negligence. Accidents are not a criminal issue if there is no DUI
or other criminal violation involved.
So_Boya@yahoo.com - 30 Dec 2007 19:15 GMT
> In article <n7edn3h4akltdlkbv1mq1tv05dnvb8c...@4ax.com>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Gross negligence. Accidents are not a criminal issue if there is no DUI
> or other criminal violation involved.

Troll Shame Him...
why do you not see it that way if careless smoking caused a fire?
Now an accident is an accident and someone died...
There seems to be a double standard there.

OP' s reaseach before you talk to this troll.
see links
http://tinyurl.com/yuzruw
http://tinyurl.com/2ow4mm

This a.shole knows everything...
or just lies that he does.
'xcept respect.

Ply the boots if you find him in here.

If you don't like it...
So Boya
Al Bundy - 30 Dec 2007 21:56 GMT
On Dec 30, 2:15 pm, So_B...@yahoo.com wrote:

> > In article <n7edn3h4akltdlkbv1mq1tv05dnvb8c...@4ax.com>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> If you don't like it...
> So Boya

So you got a bug up your a.s. Who the hell else cares?
So_Boya@yahoo.com - 31 Dec 2007 13:43 GMT
> On Dec 30, 2:15 pm, So_B...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

With 817 post to the cheapskates division you must be a
real friend of the fiend.

Bundy

http://tinyurl.com/2o95d8

Boya
http://tinyurl.com/36opq9

Hirn
http://tinyurl.com/2kdgqg

As you can see..If you spend a little time in the
records this anti social person Hirn, need the boots
plied to em.

As I have many friends and fam in Mi,
I'd  like to have your help stomp this out.

Which list do you choose Bundy?
Shawn Hirn - 31 Dec 2007 14:58 GMT
In article
<c841d205-74ec-461b-acc1-197b33c1d25f@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,

> > In article <n7edn3h4akltdlkbv1mq1tv05dnvb8c...@4ax.com>,
> >
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Now an accident is an accident and someone died...
> There seems to be a double standard there.

Where did I say anything about accusing the person in this story of
criminal conduct? I agree that accidents happen all the time and locking
up someone because of an accident is foolish, especially when that
person became a corpse due to the accident.
So_Boya@yahoo.com - 31 Dec 2007 16:09 GMT
> In article
> <c841d205-74ec-461b-acc1-197b33c1d...@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Troll Shame Him..
My post involved more than in this story,
You play dumbo all the time to cover your a.s.
Here's what you post don't play dumb.

accidential fires
smoker can't have accidents?
They should be arrested...huh

http://tinyurl.com/yukaez

http://tinyurl.com/2f8vv6

You ever had an accident??
http://tinyurl.com/ysp7dj

You' ve had so many I going to have to put
in a watch alert to clue.

Your Insurance should be 16K per yr.
Otherwise any company insuring you
has an elevated risk factor.
Guarenteed to lose money.

Just like the smokers health insurance rates.. Eh?

Even at 16 k 1 good lawsuit for 500K
(the avg today ) would break the bank.

Me 1 minor fender bender 20 yrs.
total damage 350.00

Nobody has that many accidents that is
not criminal. Yet you troll to tout.

So Boya

sr. robert, nizo and others that want to
rid us of the troll...
e me it works....Just what the header says.

let's get a letter together and get comcast
a UDP for this guy.

Maybe we can do all 4 trolls
Huge Wad Of Spit - 31 Dec 2007 16:56 GMT
Nice job, BOYA

Are you really sure????

http://tinyurl.com/ypfrfa
http://tinyurl.com/3bjh65

These are better indicators...of the truth
More hypocricy

Open Your Mouth Shame Him
(:>[0} <========= Pahauuktouui
Nah Swaller.....
see your own bullshit will choke ya.
Enjoy some of my chew.

On Dec 31, 9:58 am, Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
> In article
> <c841d205-74ec-461b-acc1-197b33c1d...@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Troll Shame Him..
My post involved more than in this story,
You play dumbo all the time to cover your a.s.
Here's what you post don't play dumb.

accidential fires
smoker can't have accidents?
They should be arrested...huh

http://tinyurl.com/yukaez

http://tinyurl.com/2f8vv6

You ever had an accident??
http://tinyurl.com/ysp7dj

You' ve had so many I going to have to put
in a watch alert to clue.

Your Insurance should be 16K per yr.
Otherwise any company insuring you
has an elevated risk factor.
Guarenteed to lose money.

Just like the smokers health insurance rates.. Eh?

Even at 16 k 1 good lawsuit for 500K
(the avg today ) would break the bank.

Me 1 minor fender bender 20 yrs.
total damage 350.00

Nobody has that many accidents that is
not criminal. Yet you troll to tout.

So Boya

sr. robert, nizo and others that want to
rid us of the troll...
e me it works....Just what the header says.

let's get a letter together and get comcast
a UDP for this guy.

Maybe we can do all 4 trolls
Shawn Hirn - 30 Dec 2007 13:03 GMT
In article
<c842a9ba-366e-4ff8-9303-ee8a532e6d2c@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

> I never knew that you don't get jail time for killing someone in an
> accident.

It happens all the time. If its a first accident and there's no
negligence involved, chances are, no legal prosecution will happen at
all to the driver. Accidents happen, and sometime they are fatal. That's
just the reality of life.

In this particular story that you cited, it clearly says ...

 "Spokesman Nick Velasquez said there is "insufficient evidence" for a
  jury to find the 28-year-old actress-singer guilty of misdemeanor
  vehicular manslaughter beyond a reasonable doubt."

So unless Brandy was drunk, using a cell phone, or something like that
and there was proof of her negligence, she wouldn't be found guilty in
court, so it makes no sense to spend tens of thousands dollars of tax
payers' money on a trial that would not result in a conviction when
there are murderers, robbers, and rapists running around who should be
caught, tried, convicted, and locked up.
Sir Lex - 30 Dec 2007 13:38 GMT
> I never knew that you don't get jail time for killing someone in an
> accident.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Brandy was driving on a Los Angeles freeway when traffic slowed and
> her Land Rover smashed into the back of a Honda.

Got to love that line.  Apparently it's the Land Rover's fault... it had
a mind of it's own and nothing could stop it after it decided it was
going to hit the Honda.  Also love the fact that apparently we're all on
a first name basis with "Brandy".

The line should have read: "Ms Norwood was driving on a Los Angeles
freeway when traffic in front of her slowed.  Ms Norwood failed to slow
her Land Rover, and collided with a Honda driven by 38 year old Awatef
Aboudihaj.  Mr Aboudihaj died from injuries sustained in the collision."

> That car was involved in several other collisions. The driver, 38-year-
> old Awatef Aboudihaj, died in the accident

What are they trying to say here?  Mr Aboudihaj had recently had several
other unrelated collisions and was a bad driver?  Or after being hit
from behind Mr Aboudihaj's vehicle was forced into other vehicles?

Why was Mr Aboudihaj's vehicle involved in "collisions", yet Ms Norwood
had an "accident"?

Very poor journalism.
necromancer - 30 Dec 2007 16:23 GMT
Sir Lex:

> > I never knew that you don't get jail time for killing someone in an
> > accident.
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> > That car was involved in several other collisions. The driver, 38-year-
> > old Awatef Aboudihaj, died in the accident

OK, so the car was involved in several other accidents. Where is the
reporter's (sic) proof that Mr. Aboudihaj was driving the car at the
times?

Very biased yellow journalism.

> What are they trying to say here?  Mr Aboudihaj had recently had several
> other unrelated collisions and was a bad driver?  Or after being hit
> from behind Mr Aboudihaj's vehicle was forced into other vehicles?

They are trying to say, "We know that our african-american (sic) hero,
the exaulted Brandy, is a piss poor driver and is totally reaponsible
for killing this mud-person so we have to twist and spin the facts to
make it out to be the dead guy's fault since he is no longer alive to
defend himself."

> Why was Mr Aboudihaj's vehicle involved in "collisions", yet Ms Norwood
> had an "accident"?
>
> Very poor journalism.

Very biased yellow journalism.

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Scott in SoCal - 30 Dec 2007 18:23 GMT
>> Brandy was driving on a Los Angeles freeway when traffic slowed and
>> her Land Rover smashed into the back of a Honda.
>
>Got to love that line.  Apparently it's the Land Rover's fault... it had
>a mind of it's own and nothing could stop it after it decided it was
>going to hit the Honda.  

Standard liberal-media-speak.

>Also love the fact that apparently we're all on
>a first name basis with "Brandy".

I believe that's her professional name - like "Madonna" she chose to
be known solely by her first name.

>> That car was involved in several other collisions. The driver, 38-year-
>> old Awatef Aboudihaj, died in the accident
>
>What are they trying to say here?  Mr Aboudihaj had recently had several
>other unrelated collisions and was a bad driver?  Or after being hit
>from behind Mr Aboudihaj's vehicle was forced into other vehicles?

The latter. Why they can't just SAY that defies rational explanation,
however.

>Very poor journalism.

s/poor/liberal
 
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