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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 29 Dec 2007 19:31 GMT Snapped this some time back:
http://i15.tinypic.com/85ypw9g.jpg
Four entrances to the store this guy's doing business in, and he has to completely block one of them off.
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Ashton Crusher - 29 Dec 2007 21:14 GMT On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:31:14 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote:
>Snapped this some time back: > >http://i15.tinypic.com/85ypw9g.jpg > >Four entrances to the store this guy's doing business in, and he has >to completely block one of them off. Maybe it stopped running as he was leaving?
Scott in SoCal - 29 Dec 2007 22:54 GMT >On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:31:14 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken >Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Maybe it stopped running as he was leaving? See what I mean, Hector? :)
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 30 Dec 2007 06:58 GMT >>On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:31:14 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken >>Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >See what I mean, Hector? :) I had no doubt. :-)
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Scott in SoCal - 29 Dec 2007 21:31 GMT On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:31:14 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote:
>Snapped this some time back: > >http://i15.tinypic.com/85ypw9g.jpg > >Four entrances to the store this guy's doing business in, and he has >to completely block one of them off. Get ready for the apologists!
When I posted a couple of similar pictures not too long ago,
http://i18.tinypic.com/4dwun42.jpg http://i18.tinypic.com/4cwcntf.jpg
I was offered all sorts of ridiculous excuses, such as "he must have had a mechanical breakdown" or "it's hard to park along the curved curb in a cul-de-sac" or "he's only blocking the sidewalk, part of the street, and that family's driveway, what's the big deal?"
BTW, I saw another MFFY parker at the mall last night:
http://i19.tinypic.com/6z523pw.jpg
Believe me, I was *sorely* tempted to park in that first space to the left of the hatched-out area, boxing this MFFY in, but I didn't want this a.shole to damage my car in his attempts to escape.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 30 Dec 2007 20:19 GMT >On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:31:14 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken >Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >curb in a cul-de-sac" or "he's only blocking the sidewalk, part of the >street, and that family's driveway, what's the big deal?" To a certain degree, I can side with them, if the MFFYers in question are blocking driveways where they are visiting. Otherwise, the cars should be impounded like the "ricers" seem to get from time to time.
>BTW, I saw another MFFY parker at the mall last night: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >left of the hatched-out area, boxing this MFFY in, but I didn't want >this a.shole to damage my car in his attempts to escape. I can imagine. That kind of crap makes me want to buy a mid-70's bronco. :-)
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Nate Nagel - 30 Dec 2007 20:46 GMT >>On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:31:14 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken >>Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > I can imagine. That kind of crap makes me want to buy a mid-70's > bronco. :-) International Harvester Scout II. Or, if you live in a rural area with lots of space, a Travelall.
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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 30 Dec 2007 20:56 GMT >>>On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:31:14 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken >>>Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >International Harvester Scout II. Or, if you live in a rural area with >lots of space, a Travelall. Excellent suggestions; thanks!
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necromancer - 30 Dec 2007 22:31 GMT Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein):
> >Believe me, I was *sorely* tempted to park in that first space to the > >left of the hatched-out area, boxing this MFFY in, but I didn't want > >this a.shole to damage my car in his attempts to escape. > > I can imagine. That kind of crap makes me want to buy a mid-70's > bronco. :-) I wouldn't mind having one of these to deal with idiot parkers. Though day to day operations may be difficult with it.
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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 31 Dec 2007 01:09 GMT > Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): >> >Believe me, I was *sorely* tempted to park in that first space to the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >http://tinyurl.com/2vq4n7 I think with time, I could learn to adjust (and enjoy). :-)
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necromancer - 31 Dec 2007 05:19 GMT Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein):
> > Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): > >> >Believe me, I was *sorely* tempted to park in that first space to the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I think with time, I could learn to adjust (and enjoy). :-) Oh, the enjoyment would start immediately: when I put those forks through the door/body of the idiot's truck and immediately transport and deposit it into the nearest river.
Then there would be the joy of all the fear that necro and his forklift would instill into the MFFY population.....
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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 01 Jan 2008 17:03 GMT > Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): >> > Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >Then there would be the joy of all the fear that necro and his forklift >would instill into the MFFY population..... Well, I was thinking, if necro was going to pull a "falling down", then perhaps hector could do one as well. You get yers going northbound, er, westbound on I26, and I'll get mine going southbound, er, eastbound on I26, and we'll lay waste to Columbia when we meet in the middle.
After that rampage, we can trek north/west/whatever on I26 until we get to the I85 corridor, at which point we'll flip for who gets charlotte and who gets atlanta.
If we've still got time, we can make inroads into Floriduh. :-)
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Bill - 30 Dec 2007 21:14 GMT > On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:31:14 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken > Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > left of the hatched-out area, boxing this MFFY in, but I didn't want > this a.shole to damage my car in his attempts to escape. So in what way was that car or it's driver in any way interfering with you or your life? Or was it just the fact that the driver was thinking outside of the box, so to speak, that annoyed you? He's not taking up two spaces (heck, he's not taking up any spaces), he's no blocking anyone, and the parking lot seems far from full. All I can gather from your post is that you're a self-righteous, fascist prick who wakes up each day thinking "stay within the line, stay within the lines...."
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Scott in SoCal - 31 Dec 2007 00:24 GMT >> BTW, I saw another MFFY parker at the mall last night: >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >So in what way was that car or it's driver in any way interfering with you >or your life? I never said he was interfering with my life. I said he was a MFFY.
>Or was it just the fact that the driver was thinking outside >of the box, so to speak, that annoyed you? We live in a society governed by rules and laws. When we allow people to violate those rules and laws then the social order breaks down and chaos ensues.
>He's not taking up two spaces >(heck, he's not taking up any spaces), That area was crosshatched off for a reason - probably because any dumbass who parks there runs the risk of being blocked in if the two adjacent legitimate spaces are occupied by large vehicles.
>he's no blocking anyone, and the parking lot seems far from full. Indeed - which makes him even more of an a.s for parking in a non-space when there are so many legitimate spaces available.
>All I can gather from your post is that >you're a self-righteous, fascist prick who wakes up each day thinking "stay >within the line, stay within the lines...." What I gather from your post is that is your car in the picture. Either that, or you regularly park like the folks on this page:
http://www.geocities.com/scottenaztlan/mffy.html
Brent P - 31 Dec 2007 01:22 GMT > We live in a society governed by rules and laws. When we allow people > to violate those rules and laws then the social order breaks down and > chaos ensues. A law may or may not prevent chaos, a law could be the cause of it. Laws that don't make a lick of sense like grossly underposted speed limits cause a breakdown of respect for all laws. In fact a reliance on government is where I think this MFFYism comes from. People feel no problem treating other people like crap because 'only a cop' can stop them or tell them what to do. Also, since we live in a society where there are so many laws, everyone is breaking some sort of law the law also becomes meaningless. Instead of treating people like they would like to be treated, they feel free to do whatever won't get a cop to come down on them. Or they use ticky tacky laws as a justification for their actions.
Scott in SoCal - 31 Dec 2007 03:26 GMT >> We live in a society governed by rules and laws. When we allow people >> to violate those rules and laws then the social order breaks down and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >that don't make a lick of sense like grossly underposted speed limits >cause a breakdown of respect for all laws. So is that your explanation for why this MFFY parked his car in an obvious non-parking-spot?
Brent P - 31 Dec 2007 06:19 GMT >>> We live in a society governed by rules and laws. When we allow people >>> to violate those rules and laws then the social order breaks down and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > So is that your explanation for why this MFFY parked his car in an > obvious non-parking-spot? 1) The government makes all sorts of idiotic no parking areas just to collect revenue, much like speed limits. This erodes respect for legimate no parking areas. Also people begin to think of it as just a tax as well.
2) There is no social correction. A cop or at least an agent of the property owner has to see it for there to be any consquences to the car's driver. It's just like these asshats who shoulder pass. They do it and feel entitled to it because without a cop, there will be no consquences. Someone will always let the shoulder passer back in and nobody was willing to block this MFFY parker into the corner.
I suppose if the police actually worked for the people then things might be different. But they don't work for us and haven't for a long time. They work for government and government doesn't care if people are a.sholes to each other. Actually it would prefer that because it is an excuse for taking power and makes the people weaker. Anyway, the MFFY parker is unlikely to be ticketed in an area that doesn't represent enough money for government to waste its manpower on, nobody is going to offer resistance, there are no social consquences, so he does it.
gpsman - 31 Dec 2007 04:34 GMT > >> BTW, I saw another MFFY parker at the mall last night: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I never said he was interfering with my life. I said he was a MFFY. Obviously had some impact on your life, you seem to practically insist upon it.
> >Or was it just the fact that the driver was thinking outside > >of the box, so to speak, that annoyed you? > > We live in a society governed by rules and laws. When we allow people > to violate those rules and laws then the social order breaks down and > chaos ensues. You seem to be implying the car is parked in violation of some rule or law, without saying so, and without citing which rule or law.
> >He's not taking up two spaces > >(heck, he's not taking up any spaces), > > That area was crosshatched off for a reason - probably because any > dumbass who parks there runs the risk of being blocked in if the two > adjacent legitimate spaces are occupied by large vehicles. Occam's Razor; there isn't adequate area for another perpendicular space.
> >he's no blocking anyone, and the parking lot seems far from full. > > Indeed - which makes him even more of an a.s for parking in a > non-space when there are so many legitimate spaces available. Maybe, but you don't know if it's been parked there for a minute, or a week.
> >All I can gather from your post is that > >you're a self-righteous, fascist prick who wakes up each day thinking "stay [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.geocities.com/scottenaztlan/mffy.html Of course. Anyone who might point out you don't know what the f.ck you're talking about and that you assume all manner of facts you have no method of learning must be "evil".
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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 02 Jan 2008 02:30 GMT >Of course. Anyone who might point out you don't know what the f.ck >you're talking about and that you assume all manner of facts you have >no method of learning must be "evil". Last I checked, he wasn't claiming to be a professional driving instructor, telling people they had to stop their vehicles for parked school buses.
>Yer an idiot. Deal with it. Advice you would be well served to take. :-)
I see you've already blown your resolution not to be a retard. Ah well.
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Matthew T. Russotto - 31 Dec 2007 20:06 GMT >We live in a society governed by rules and laws. When we allow people >to violate those rules and laws then the social order breaks down and >chaos ensues. The cry of every authoritarian from Draco on forward.
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Scott in SoCal - 01 Jan 2008 01:19 GMT >>We live in a society governed by rules and laws. When we allow people >>to violate those rules and laws then the social order breaks down and >>chaos ensues. > >The cry of every authoritarian from Draco on forward. Much to the chagrin of you Anarchists.
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Brent P - 01 Jan 2008 01:40 GMT >>>We live in a society governed by rules and laws. When we allow people >>>to violate those rules and laws then the social order breaks down and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Much to the chagrin of you Anarchists. (the state) "applies itself to loading everybody's brain with prejudices, and everybody's heart with sentiments favorable to the spirit of disorder, war, and hatred; so that, when a doctrine of order, peace, and comity presents itself, it is in vain that it has clearness and truth on its side; it cannot gain admittance." -Frederic Bastiat
Matthew T. Russotto - 01 Jan 2008 18:57 GMT >>>We live in a society governed by rules and laws. When we allow people >>>to violate those rules and laws then the social order breaks down and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Much to the chagrin of you Anarchists. Please, make that "anarchists", to capitalize "Anarchists" suggests far more organization than is present.
(and I'm not one anyway)
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Scott in SoCal - 01 Jan 2008 19:30 GMT >>>>We live in a society governed by rules and laws. When we allow people >>>>to violate those rules and laws then the social order breaks down and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >(and I'm not one anyway) Sure sounds like it. Surely you wouldn't characterize those who obey the law as "authoritarian Dracos" if you were one of them.
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Matthew T. Russotto - 01 Jan 2008 23:51 GMT >>>>>We live in a society governed by rules and laws. When we allow people >>>>>to violate those rules and laws then the social order breaks down and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Sure sounds like it. Surely you wouldn't characterize those who obey >the law as "authoritarian Dracos" if you were one of them. It's a false dilemma, Scott. The choices are not between authoritarianism and anarchy. To oppose -- or even to violate, or advocate violating -- a particular law is not to oppose rule of law.
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Scott in SoCal - 02 Jan 2008 14:33 GMT >It's a false dilemma, Scott. The choices are not between >authoritarianism and anarchy. To oppose -- or even to violate, or >advocate violating -- a particular law is not to oppose rule of law. So what is your rationale for violating the particular rule in question (no parking zones)?
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Matthew T. Russotto - 02 Jan 2008 21:25 GMT >>It's a false dilemma, Scott. The choices are not between >>authoritarianism and anarchy. To oppose -- or even to violate, or >>advocate violating -- a particular law is not to oppose rule of law. > >So what is your rationale for violating the particular rule in >question (no parking zones)? If I park in a no parking zone, it's because there's no practical and legal place to park. Of course, you likely consider it "practical" to carry a 60" x 40" piece of framed (with glass) artwork 3-4 blocks down a poorly-maintained sidewalk across several cross streets. I don't.
In order to ensure a lack of parking, the city has had several streets marked "temporary no parking zones" for several decades, and many of the legal spots are typically filled with construction dumpsters and the like.
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Brent P - 02 Jan 2008 22:12 GMT > In order to ensure a lack of parking, the city has had several streets marked > "temporary no parking zones" for several decades, and many of the legal > spots are typically filled with construction dumpsters and the like. King Richard II has made at least one if not more temporary parking zones become perm. no parking zones. At least the signage was changed. The idea is to 'encourage transit use'. It's the usual try to make driving suck more so it's sucks more than transit. Encouraging transit use would be better and more useful transit service.
Under Richard II's reign, the local permit parking has blossomed. So now when you find that space 3 blocks away, it will be by permit parking only. (except for dumpsters)
necromancer - 03 Jan 2008 00:59 GMT Brent P:
> > In order to ensure a lack of parking, the city has had several streets marked > > "temporary no parking zones" for several decades, and many of the legal [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > when you find that space 3 blocks away, it will be by permit parking > only. (except for dumpsters) How can you stand living in Chicago?
For all my rants about living in the sticks, I'll take what I have over an urban cesspool any day.
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Scott in SoCal - 03 Jan 2008 02:21 GMT > Brent P: >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >How can you stand living in Chicago? I would love to live there if it weren't so goddamn COLD. Having all sorts of things within easy walking distance is worth a LOT.
>For all my rants about living in the sticks, I'll take what I have over >an urban cesspool any day. I would rather live in Chicago that be utterly dependent on a persnoal automobile for EVERY aspect of my life - especially now that oil has topped $100/barrel.
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Matthew T. Russotto - 03 Jan 2008 02:30 GMT >I would rather live in Chicago that be utterly dependent on a persnoal >automobile for EVERY aspect of my life - especially now that oil has >topped $100/barrel. Better to be dependent on an automobile than subject to Mayor Daley.
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Brent P - 03 Jan 2008 06:19 GMT >> Brent P: >>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > automobile for EVERY aspect of my life - especially now that oil has > topped $100/barrel. You mean that the dollar has fallen to $100/bbl.
Gold passed $850/oz, silver is over $15/oz today. the dollar is falling, not oil rising.
Brent P - 03 Jan 2008 06:18 GMT > Brent P: >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > How can you stand living in Chicago? I haven't lived in Daley's kingdom for over 10 years. Still go there occasionally, like on NYE. (usually I just go through chicago) At least they can keep the streets clear during a snow storm. I wish there was a way to get suburban political office holders just as scared as the reigme in chicago is of people on this topic.
> For all my rants about living in the sticks, I'll take what I have over > an urban cesspool any day. Scott in SoCal - 03 Jan 2008 02:18 GMT >>>It's a false dilemma, Scott. The choices are not between >>>authoritarianism and anarchy. To oppose -- or even to violate, or [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >If I park in a no parking zone, it's because there's no practical and >legal place to park. Not the case here. There are plenty of empty *legal* spaces plainly visible in the photograph.
So once again I ask you: on what basis can you defend what this MFFY did?
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Matthew T. Russotto - 03 Jan 2008 02:29 GMT >>>>It's a false dilemma, Scott. The choices are not between >>>>authoritarianism and anarchy. To oppose -- or even to violate, or [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >So once again I ask you: on what basis can you defend what this MFFY >did? If you're referring to the guy blocking half the entrance to a parking lot when there's several spots visible right behind him, I'm not defending him; he's a moron, unless gpstroll is right and his truck just happened to break down right there (fat chance). I am, however, opposing the principle that following the law is always the right thing to do.
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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 04 Jan 2008 04:09 GMT >I am, however, >opposing the principle that following the law is always the right thing to do. Not meaning to sound like an smart-a.s, but that SHOULD be common sense, in my opinion. "Legal" and "right" are not synonyms, and for that matter, neither is "safety," but I digress. That people believe otherwise, to me, is indicative of a problem with the educational system. Whether that problem is the teachers or the pupils I'm unsure, but the evidence of the problem is there.
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Matthew T. Russotto - 06 Jan 2008 22:09 GMT >>I am, however, >>opposing the principle that following the law is always the right thing to do. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >system. Whether that problem is the teachers or the pupils I'm unsure, >but the evidence of the problem is there. Control freaks have been with us always, both the type who want to control everything and the more common type who just want everything to be controlled. It's a problem that these people are in charge of the "educational system", but I don't think the educational system causes these people to exist.
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Scott in SoCal - 07 Jan 2008 01:54 GMT >>>I am, however, >>>opposing the principle that following the law is always the right thing to do. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >control everything and the more common type who just want >everything to be controlled. What's wrong with expecting people to control themselves and act like civilized human beings instead of MFFY animals? The reason we have laws in the first place is because not everyone is willing to do that.
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Brent P - 07 Jan 2008 02:06 GMT >>>>I am, however, >>>>opposing the principle that following the law is always the right thing to do. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > civilized human beings instead of MFFY animals? The reason we have > laws in the first place is because not everyone is willing to do that. All these controlling laws are counter productive. People behaved more civilized before all the laws and the reliance on government enforcement.
The problem is a lack of social correction. It's so bad that the person who objects to the rude behavior is now considered to be the bigger problem.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 31 Dec 2007 01:11 GMT >> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:31:14 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken >> Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >or your life? Or was it just the fact that the driver was thinking outside >of the box, so to speak, that annoyed you? He's not taking up two spaces There's "thinking outside the box", and then there's just plain "stupid." Do you think parking a vehicle illegally, in such a manner that you could easily be blocked in, is an intelligent thought process? Thank God I'm not a member of your family tree.
>(heck, he's not taking up any spaces), he's no blocking anyone, and the >parking lot seems far from full. All I can gather from your post is that >you're a self-righteous, fascist prick who wakes up each day thinking "stay >within the line, stay within the lines...." You should try doing a little more reading before making yourself look like an idiot.
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gpsman - 31 Dec 2007 05:19 GMT On Dec 30, 8:11 pm, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:31:14 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken > >> Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > that you could easily be blocked in, is an intelligent thought > process? Which law is being violated?
> >(heck, he's not taking up any spaces), he's no blocking anyone, and the > >parking lot seems far from full. All I can gather from your post is that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You should try doing a little more reading before making yourself look > like an idiot. You seem to assume (surprise!), incorrectly, that that has assisted you. -----
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Larry Bud - 31 Dec 2007 13:21 GMT > Which law is being violated? So you think that anything that you can do with a car, as long as it's legal, is OK to do?
Of course this a.shole is blocking the entrance. The way he's parked, two cars can't enter and exit at the same time as they normally would do.
Bill - 31 Dec 2007 18:57 GMT >> Which law is being violated? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > two cars can't enter and exit at the same time as they normally would > do. You're looking at the wrong picture. We're discussing http://i19.tinypic.com/6z523pw.jpg
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 01 Jan 2008 16:49 GMT >On Dec 30, 8:11 pm, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver >(Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > >Which law is being violated? I dunno; perhaps the one about passing a parked school bus, o masterful driving instructor? lmao.
>> >(heck, he's not taking up any spaces), he's no blocking anyone, and the >> >parking lot seems far from full. All I can gather from your post is that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >You seem to assume (surprise!), incorrectly, that that has assisted >you. That comment might bother me, if it came from someone who had proven they weren't a moron.
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Scott in SoCal - 01 Jan 2008 19:46 GMT On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 11:49:46 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote:
>GPSTroll's tired refrain:
>>Which law is being violated? > >I dunno; perhaps the one about passing a parked school bus, o >masterful driving instructor? lmao. So by now we know that GPSTroll thinks that any behavior is OK as long as it doesn't violate any laws. Want to park in the middle of the aisle in a parking lot? No problem - after all, in most states, the vehicle code does not apply on private property, so feel free to do whatever you want!
Here's another case where great harm was done but no actual laws were broken. No doubt GPSTroll fully supports what this woman did. And, since it's pretty likely that GPSTroll has children of his own (his previous nym was MidnightDad), it would be true poetic justice if some similar *legal* fate befalls one of HIS kids.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/28/us/28hoax.html
A Hoax Turned Fatal Draws Anger but No Charges
By CHRISTOPHER MAAG Published: November 28, 2007
DARDENNE PRAIRIE, Mo., Nov. 21 Megan Meier died believing that somewhere in this world lived a boy named Josh Evans who hated her. He was 16, owned a pet snake, and she thought he was the cutest boyfriend she ever had.
Josh contacted Megan through her page on MySpace.com, the social networking Web site, said Megans mother, Tina Meier. They flirted for weeks, but only online Josh said his family had no phone. On Oct. 15, 2006, Josh suddenly turned mean. He called Megan names, and later they traded insults for an hour.
The next day, in his final message, said Megans father, Ron Meier, Josh wrote, The world would be a better place without you.
Sobbing, Megan ran into her bedroom closet. Her mother found her there, hanging from a belt. She was 13.
Six weeks after Megans death, her parents learned that Josh Evans never existed. He was an online character created by Lori Drew, then 47, who lived four houses down the street in this rapidly growing community 35 miles northwest of St. Louis.
That an adult would plot such a cruel hoax against a 13-year-old girl has drawn outraged phone calls, e-mail messages and blog posts from around the world. Many people expressed anger because St. Charles County officials did not charge Ms. Drew with a crime.
But a St. Charles County Sheriffs Department spokesman, Lt. Craig McGuire, said that what Ms. Drew did mightve been rude, it mightve been immature, but it wasnt illegal.
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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 01 Jan 2008 23:23 GMT >>I dunno; perhaps the one about passing a parked school bus, o >>masterful driving instructor? lmao. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >previous nym was MidnightDad), it would be true poetic justice if some >similar *legal* fate befalls one of HIS kids. I dunno, "MidnightDad" sounds fitting for some loser who's picked up the role of "father" for some else's little squirt. It's difficult to believe someone would be desperate enough to consummate a relationship with gpstard, much less procreate with him. That's got to be one hideously ugly, er, woman.
>http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/28/us/28hoax.html > >A Hoax Turned Fatal Draws Anger but No Charges Caught that earlier; that's fouled.
Why people like that are allowed to breath U.S. oxygen is beyond me.
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Scott in SoCal - 02 Jan 2008 15:04 GMT On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 18:23:46 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" <drunk_and_distracted@the_wheel.com> wrote:
>I dunno, "MidnightDad" sounds fitting for some loser who's picked up >the role of "father" for some else's little squirt. It's difficult to >believe someone would be desperate enough to consummate a relationship >with gpstard, much less procreate with him. That's got to be one >hideously ugly, er, woman. As the local Harley-Davidson dealer likes to say, "There's an a.s for every seat."
>>http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/28/us/28hoax.html >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Why people like that are allowed to breath U.S. oxygen is beyond me. You were wondering what kind of woman who would coupulate with GPSTard? I think you might have your answer...
gpsman - 02 Jan 2008 05:45 GMT > On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 11:49:46 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken > Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > vehicle code does not apply on private property, so feel free to do > whatever you want! <spit take> You have no support for your assertion, as usual, so let's just change the subject to gpsman and pretend asking for it was unreasonable, and extrapolate from that that gpsman is unreasonable.
Why not just address the question?
> Here's another case where great harm was done but no actual laws were > broken. No doubt GPSTroll fully supports what this woman did. Wow, twice in the same post. I guess that allows me an additional question:
Which rule or law was being violated?
How did you determine the vehicle did not belong to the property owner?
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Bill - 31 Dec 2007 18:55 GMT >>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:31:14 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken >>> Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > that you could easily be blocked in, is an intelligent thought > process? Thank God I'm not a member of your family tree. How is the car parked illegally? It appears to be on private property, and I don't see it parked in a designated fire lane. Perhaps the laws in your area are different, but I don't see any laws being broken.
Please provide the statute that us being broken here.
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Garth Almgren - 01 Jan 2008 01:02 GMT > > There's "thinking outside the box", and then there's just plain > > "stupid." Do you think parking a vehicle illegally, in such a manner [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > don't see it parked in a designated fire lane. Perhaps the laws in your area > are different, but I don't see any laws being broken. Does it matter if any laws are being broken? Is "legal or illegal" your sole gauge of right and wrong?
It *may* not be parked illegally, depending on local laws, but it is parked improperly and (IMNSHO) very rudely.
As you mention, it appears to be private property. The property owner has clearly indicated that they do not want anyone parking in that space, and thus has every right to have the offending vehicle towed. I would not be surprised to see signs to that effect posted.
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Scott in SoCal - 01 Jan 2008 01:20 GMT >> > There's "thinking outside the box", and then there's just plain >> > "stupid." Do you think parking a vehicle illegally, in such a manner [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Does it matter if any laws are being broken? Is "legal or illegal" >your sole gauge of right and wrong? Has GPSTroll nymshifted again?
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Garth Almgren - 01 Jan 2008 05:31 GMT >>>> There's "thinking outside the box", and then there's just plain >>>> "stupid." Do you think parking a vehicle illegally, in such a manner [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Has GPSTroll nymshifted again? If not, Bill is doing a great gpstroll impression...
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gpsman - 01 Jan 2008 04:05 GMT > > > There's "thinking outside the box", and then there's just plain > > > "stupid." Do you think parking a vehicle illegally, in such a manner [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Does it matter if any laws are being broken? Is "legal or illegal" > your sole gauge of right and wrong? The premise of it being "wrong" due to a violation of rule or law was forwarded by another. After that point the question of which law was being violated was raised... but has not yet been answered by the person who forwarded it.
The question has met with some ridiculous extrapolations regarding the senses of "right or wrong" of the enquirers, but those who have so extrapolated seem to have little if any interest in the actual facts of the matter.
> It *may* not be parked illegally, depending on local laws, but it is > parked improperly and (IMNSHO) very rudely. Take it up over at alt.missmanners.parking and report back.
> As you mention, it appears to be private property. The property owner > has clearly indicated that they do not want anyone parking in that > space, and thus has every right to have the offending vehicle towed. Uh huh. And you determined the vehicle does not belong to the property owner... or his family member... or his authorized agent.... how, exactly...?
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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 01 Jan 2008 16:49 GMT >>>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:31:14 -0500, "Murderous Speeding Drunken >>>> Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)" [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > >Please provide the statute that us being broken here. It's not an issue of legal; it's an issue of intelligent. Little surprise you can't make the distinction.
Parking in such a way is just begging to be blocked in if the parking facility became filled to capacity.
Personally, I wouldn't give a sh.t about the retard who self-blocked their car in the corner; I merely block them in as I've done other such morons in the past. It's quite satisfying it is to come out to your vehicle and see some idiot sitting in theirs, *waiting* for someone to let them out because of their ineptitude. Indeed, there are some stores I frequent because this type of parking occurs more frequently, and I enjoy being a prick.
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necromancer - 30 Dec 2007 04:56 GMT Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein):
> Snapped this some time back: > > http://i15.tinypic.com/85ypw9g.jpg > > Four entrances to the store this guy's doing business in, and he has > to completely block one of them off. MAybe he realised the forgot his brains and ran back in to see if he left them in the store? ;)
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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 30 Dec 2007 20:19 GMT > Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >MAybe he realised the forgot his brains and ran back in to see if he >left them in the store? ;) I'm pretty sure he lost them long before he got to the store. :-)
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necromancer - 31 Dec 2007 05:14 GMT Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein):
> > Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): > >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I'm pretty sure he lost them long before he got to the store. :-) Probablly took him/her this long to realize it. ;-P
BTW, was it a rather foggy day when you took the photo? ;)
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Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 01 Jan 2008 16:57 GMT > Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): >> > Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein): [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Probablly took him/her this long to realize it. ;-P Makes sense.
>BTW, was it a rather foggy day when you took the photo? ;) Thank heavens! I thought I was so hung over it transferred to the photo. :-)
We get perhaps one or two days out of the week where we'll have fog like this early in the morning for a short period. On occasion, it's thick enough that it blocks out the view from the top of the tower. On other, rarer occasions, the cloud level is low enough that the tower protrudes above it, and you get some fairly interesting photo opportunities from that.
Happy New Year!
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