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Hi Viatologists, Happy 2008! For the past several months, my family, friends and coworkers have been riding me hard to change my website layout. As more countries, media formats and HTML tables got added to the WHL's repository, the page became more difficult to navigate. To ring in the new year, the Worldwide Highway Library has changed its layout! We are in a slow rollout period, but do welcome your visit while the dust settles. The new format will be fully functional over the next few weeks. As of noon today (PST), you should be able to view pictures of: (1) Alberta Primary Provincial Routes. (2) Rutas Principales de Guatemala. (3) Rutas Federales de México. (4) Rutas de los Estados a México. (5) United States National Highways (e.g., Interstates, Federal Routes). http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com The four principal languages of the WHL are English, French, Italian and German. Where appropriate, the default language will be applied to the corresponding photograph. For title purposes only, Spanish is included. The immersion of language and region will ensure an international experience on the WHL. If you do not speak the native language, may we invite you to brush up on a language at your local university. Software packages like Rosetta Stone are encouraged for those who like to learn a language from the comfort of their computer. As I learn Spanish further, all Latin American highway photos will be fully translated. If you need access today to all videos, photographs and WHL-360s, please continue to use the depracated, yet still robust repository: http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/repository.html . The repository will become inactive once the new layout has completed. As traditional holds, the WHL's format employs a series of fixed-size windows for all of its content. A dozen or so webmasters, many from the MTR newsgroup, have expressed interest in seeing WHL photographs w/o fixed-size windows. In spirit of cooperation, the WHL would like to create an option for interested parties who'd like unrestricted access to WHL content, sans fixed-window. For a flat nominal fee, the WHL will grant a perpetual license for your site that allows your website: (1) native access to JPEG files, and (2) HTML windows w/o size restrictions. If interested, please let me know and I can provide you w/ the package details and pricing. If you do not wish to hold a WHL license, you may still link to fixed-size windows from your website at anytime. We thank you for your interest either way. Again, happy new year! The Worldwide Highway Library looks forward to present you w/ new, great material throughout the year. Cheers, Carl Rogers "Adding human experience to transportology" ******** Calrog.com, Worldwide Highway Library: http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ An integrated media arm in International Transportation Research. Has served your home country and ninety-nine of its worldwide neighbours since 2000, through Internet downstream and published works. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ******** > A dozen or so webmasters, many from the MTR > newsgroup, have expressed interest in seeing WHL photographs w/o fixed-size [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > license for your site that allows your website: (1) native access to JPEG > files, and (2) HTML windows w/o size restrictions. Good luck on that. >> A dozen or so webmasters, many from the MTR >> newsgroup, have expressed interest in seeing WHL photographs w/o fixed-size [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Good luck on that. I guess his New Year's resolution is to try to find new revenue streams. What he hasn't figured out is that people aren't going to his site when it's for free. They sure aren't going to go there if he's going to charge. What a joke. Take care, Rich God bless the USA  SignatureThat's one of the problems in this country The nuts don't know they're nuts. --Jeff Foxworthy >>> For a _flat nominal fee_, the WHL will grant a perpetual >>> license for your site that allows your website: (1) native access to JPEG [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >What a joke. The joke is on Cal-El. If even ONE person takes him up on his offer, he will be legally obligated to keep his web site up IN PERPETUITY to serve those images. The recurring costs will eventually dwarf whatever one-time fee he might collect. Now here's a way he can really make money: he can charge people not to post to RAD and MTR. Set up a PayPal account, and charge each person a few cents per month in exchange for not posting. As long as people pay, he refrains from posting; as long as he refrains from posting, people continue to pay. An arrangement like that would provide income for the rest of his life. :) Signature"Over the past few weeks, I've let a close friend (Eric) label certain MTR and RAD individuals as homosexuals. I do want to take this opportunity to apologise, for not taking my part in stopping this ignorant behaviour." - Carl Rogers, Message-ID: <HxG%i.17$AR7.6@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com> >>>> For a _flat nominal fee_, the WHL will grant a perpetual >>>> license for your site that allows your website: (1) native access to JPEG [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > people continue to pay. An arrangement like that would provide income > for the rest of his life. :) When he returned from his hiatus I queried Carl whether there was a quantity of site hits that if we could get him to he would go away again. Eric the attack chihuahua came after me with his usual vicious tenacity - he started calling me names for such a suggestion. So, mortally wounded, I didn't broach the subject again. Take care, Rich God bless the USA SignatureThat's one of the problems in this country The nuts don't know they're nuts. --Jeff Foxworthy > What he hasn't figured out is that people aren't going to his site when > it's for free. They sure aren't going to go there if he's going to charge. Actually people are going to his website.. Why? f.ck if I don't know.. but it sure as hell isn't me. Apparently there are a lot of retards out there with no lives.. you know.. the type that do nothing all day except j.rk off to road signs and call themselves viatologists.. Sure he's not getting the hits that I get on my sites.. but I bet he is getting a hell of a lot more hits than any of you.. if any of you idiots even have a website. > The joke is on Cal-El. If even ONE person takes him up on his offer, > he will be legally obligated to keep his web site up IN PERPETUITY to > serve those images. The recurring costs will eventually dwarf whatever > one-time fee he might collect. The joke is actually on you. All he needs to do is set up a disclaimer to say that the site and its services will be available only as long as the site stays in service. If there are recurring fees for any service, once the site goes down he would have to end those recurring fees. > "Over the past few weeks, I've let a close friend (Eric) label certain MTR > and RAD individuals as homosexuals. I do want to take this opportunity to > apologise, for not taking my part in stopping this ignorant behaviour." For the record, I have never called anyone a homosexual. I have however called certain individuals as a fag(got), gay, poop pusher, knee scraper, etc.. > When he returned from his hiatus I queried Carl whether there was a > quantity of site hits that if we could get him to he would go away > again. Eric the attack chihuahua came after me with his usual vicious > tenacity - he started calling me names for such a suggestion. So, > mortally wounded, I didn't broach the subject again. That's good you stupid queer pussy faggot. I didn't want to hear your sh.t anyways. > > What he hasn't figured out is that people aren't going to his site when > > it's for free. They sure aren't going to go there if he's going to charge. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > getting a hell of a lot more hits than any of you.. if any of you > idiots even have a website. Ok, let's look at this reply by Eric. "Actually people are going to his website.. Why? f.ck if I don't know.. but it sure as hell isn't me. Apparently there are a lot of retards out there with no lives.. you know.. the type that do nothing all day except j.rk off to road signs and call themselves viatologists" Where do we start. First, on November 7, 2007 - Carl Rogers wrote: "Many thanks to Eric Lozaga for helping give me the courage to continue to do a hobby I love. And that's roads! " Are you saying that Carl doesn't have a life? And that he jerks off to road signs all day since he is the only known person to call himself a 'viatologist'? Damn what kind of "best friend" are you? You've never explained this. "I laugh at all of you.. who the f.ck has a hobby of highway shields and freeways. You are all retarded losers." Especially when Carl has said again: ""Many thanks to Eric Lozaga for helping give me the courage to continue to do a hobby I love. And that's roads! " You know...Carl does have it pretty bad. His "best friend" does nothing but consistently insult him in a public forum. You know the more Eric speaks...the more we learn about Carl and what his own friends think of him. > Are you saying that Carl doesn't have a life? And that he jerks off > to road signs all day since he is the only known person to call > himself a 'viatologist'? Actually he calls everyone one of you viatologists.. and considering the people who reply to him, including you.. that confirms that you you are all viatologists. If you aren't then why do you respond? > Damn what kind of "best friend" are you? A better one than you could ever be. > You've never explained this. "I laugh at all of you.. who the f.ck has > a hobby of highway shields > and freeways. You are all retarded losers." You are. Your hobby is stupid. I bet none of you are married, have kids.. or even a girlfriend. If you do, prove me wrong. I know for a fact Carl does, he is practically married.. So at least I can't call him a fag like all of you. > Especially when Carl has said again: ""Many thanks to Eric Lozaga > for > helping give me the courage to continue > to do a hobby I love. And that's roads! " That's right.. I will always support my friends.. even if their hobby unfortunately includes a bunch of faggots like you. > You know...Carl does have it pretty bad. His "best friend" does > nothing but consistently insult him in a public forum. I have never insulted him. What may come off as an insult to you, we are laughing about it in person. > You know the more Eric speaks...the more we learn about Carl and > what > his own friends think of him. That's funny.. do you have any friends? You will only think what you want to believe. I can't help the fact that you are a moron who likes to suck pole. It's a free country, you can do whatever you want. I'm just going to laugh and make fun of you the entire time. I may not honestly think that all of you are gay and like it up the butt.. I may very well be wrong.. but the funniest part is the fact that none of you have ever denied it. I know if someone called me a faggoty poop pusher knee scraper, I would defend myself. Not one of you have. lol > I have never insulted him. What may come off as an insult to you, we > are laughing about it in person. FYI--Adam is short. BTW, I need to rescind my remarks about Rich... According to Dictionary.com, a WASP is also: (2) "a member of the privileged, established white upper middle class in the US." That said, I'll have to downgrade Rich's label to "fundamentalist redneck". --Carl > > I have never insulted him. What may come off as an insult to you, we > > are laughing about it in person. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > --Carl I would have just stuck with fag... but I guess fundamentalist redneck could work too. >> > I have never insulted him. What may come off as an insult to you, we >> > are laughing about it in person. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >I would have just stuck with fag... but I guess fundamentalist redneck >could work too. You seem to have a very bizarre fascination with being stuck with fags. Hint: It's never too late to stop projecting. -- Sarcasm is my sword Apathy is my shield February 11, 2006: "I never quite understood the phrase "...have no life". Is it some negative sort if social-comparison towards someone who, or some group that's considered the social norm? In my opinion, Mr Slater, you're quite the jock in the MTR group! " Author - Carl Rogers Eric, You know everything Carl says about his 'detractors' you are demonstrating below.. > > Are you saying that Carl doesn't have a life? And that he jerks off > > to road signs all day since he is the only known person to call [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > fact Carl does, he is practically married.. So at least I can't call > him a fag like all of you. Are you saying "I can't compete w/ everyone else monetarily, socially or developmentally. So let me create an alternate reality to combat them." <snip> > > You know...Carl does have it pretty bad. His "best friend" does > > nothing but consistently insult him in a public forum. > > I have never insulted him. What may come off as an insult to you, we > are laughing about it in person. Really? then why has he admonished you in a public forum three times now. Seems like there is some fractures in your friendship. > > You know the more Eric speaks...the more we learn about Carl and > what > > his own friends think of him. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > faggoty poop pusher knee scraper, I would defend myself. Not one of > you have. lol Are you saying "I can't compete w/ everyone else monetarily, socially or developmentally. So let me create an alternate reality to combat them." >> What he hasn't figured out is that people aren't going to his site when >> it's for free. They sure aren't going to go there if he's going to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > getting a hell of a lot more hits than any of you.. if any of you > idiots even have a website. Don't worry. It's their way of saying, "I can't compete w/ Carl monetarily, socially or developmentally. So let me create an alternate reality to combat him". Like they say, if you say a lie over and over again, some people will believe it. I think 480,000 hits for the WHL last year is a prety good indicator of success. They can't challenge that number (...even w/ their websites combined), so they play childish games to reclaim the throne . Little do these MTR kids know, they're little cheerleaders that funnel extra traffic into my website. So in effect, they're conceivably increasing my ad revenue. >> The joke is on Cal-El. LOL. They create figurative caricatures. Oh well, my ad revenue's up, so they're creativity is paying for my nights out on the town. If even ONE person takes him up on his offer, >> he will be legally obligated to keep his web site up IN PERPETUITY to >> serve those images. The recurring costs will eventually dwarf whatever >> one-time fee he might collect. Fear of uncertainty and doubt... He can't compete w/ me, raise advertising revenue or carry a social life. >> "Over the past few weeks, I've let a close friend (Eric) label certain >> MTR [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > however called certain individuals as a fag(got), gay, poop pusher, > knee scraper, etc.. While I still do apologise to the homosexual community for Eric's remarks, I don't apologise to the people to which Eric is asserting. They deserve every bit of crap they receive because they're crap themselves, as far as I'm concerned. I have no future plans in stopping Eric's behaviour, but if anyone would like to lend a hand in picking up where I've left off, in that respect go ahead and try. Oh yeah, Sherman is short. Rich is a WASP. Back to work, Carl > Don't worry. It's their way of saying, "I can't compete w/ Carl > monetarily, socially or developmentally. Christ, what an ego. Has it ever occurred to you that you are the exact opposite of what some of us would like to be? I don't care about money, past paying the bills and a few small luxuries. As far as social scene-I have plenty, thanx-In fact, it can be a chore juggling obligations. Now I don't hang out with a bunch of shallow people drinking wine and eating cheese and wondering what the 'little people' are doing for amusement, or whatever it is the vapid, superficial crowd you hang out with does, but I manage to keep occupied. Developmentally? I was 5 years old 43 years ago. It was fun at the time, but I'm past it, I neither want to revisit or relive it. SignatureComrade Mister Otto the Duke of Yamamoto http://mryamamoto.50megs.com 'Giving Viatology a bad name since 1898!' > I think 480,000 hits for the WHL last year is a prety good indicator of > success. They can't challenge that number (...even w/ their websites > combined), so they play childish games to reclaim the throne . Little do > these MTR kids know, they're little cheerleaders that funnel extra traffic > into my website. So in effect, they're conceivably increasing my ad > revenue. That might be a good start for a web novice. A pro would be talking about traffic in terms of visits rather than hits since hits means almost nothing--anyone could put in 20 calls to a 1x1 pixel image and boost their hit count massively without adding any more visits. Perhaps you want to sign up for Google Analytics (which is free) so you can talk about traffic using a standardized number that can be compared across sites. For example, you might find other sites (such as my own site) that has has 90 minute time frames that have seen 500K of "hits" at times. Maybe that will give you something to shoot for in 2008 or 2009. Like all businesses, you need to constantly evaluate your business model and adapt to changing market conditions and meet the needs of your customers. Your potential customers are very willing to tell you what you need to do to meet their needs. You may want to listen to some of these suggestions and implement changes in 2008 to make your site more customer-centric. Suggestions that I might have include: - try to be less of a pompus a**. - adopt an attitude of service to the road geek community - stop thinking in terms of win and lose - don't post web site update notices more than once a month - don't post updates for a single photo or video unless it is newsworthy - practice your voice or take lessons so you sound less like a muppet - get rid of all the non-standard scripting and programming that makes your site hard to use, hard to navigate, non-standard, bloated, and just plain bizarre at times - don't take credit for "clinching" a country when you have one single out of focus picture from that country - learn the lingo -- federal highway might sound cool, but not when you are the only person in this federal domain who uses it I think you have a lot to offer, and you are located in a place where there are few other on-line road geeks, so you have the potential to fill in a gap in the on-line coverage of highways. But if you don't adapt and adjust, you are going to find yourself being the modern day Don Juan as you keep trying to fight the windmills that you keep building. -john- Signature====================================================================== John A. Weeks III 612-720-2854 john@johnweeks.com Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ====================================================================== > >> What he hasn't figured out is that people aren't going to his site when > >> it's for free. They sure aren't going to go there if he's going to [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > into my website. So in effect, they're conceivably increasing my ad > revenue. Um, no one can challenge that number? no one can compete? http://www.gribblenation.com/stats/usage_200712.html If you are just wanting to discuss hits Carl...500,924 hits in a month is plenty more than 480,000 in a year. I guess that Quality, accuracy, and facts line sure isn't convenient now. In fact, every month out of the year in 2007 gn.com monthly hits were at or greater than 480,000 in an entire year. Oh and state-ends.com, another of those so called East Coast Conspiracy sites, averages 500k hits a month also. I'm gonna guess that's more quality, accuracy, and facts...that is inconvenient for you. > On Jan 1, 6:03 pm, "Carl Rogers" <postmas...@calrog.com> wrote: > > I think 480,000 hits for the WHL last year is a prety good indicator of > success. They can't challenge that number (...even w/ their websites > combined), so they play childish games to reclaim the throne. I'd suggest doing some research before pursuing the minor attacks. For example, 480,000 hits is about 5 weeks worth for my own website (let alone what a whole year adds up to), and I know Gribblenation (run by several of those you apparently despise so much) sees more site traffic than I do. Froggie > I'd suggest doing some research before pursuing the minor attacks. > For example, 480,000 hits is about 5 weeks worth for my own website > (let alone what a whole year adds up to), and I know Gribblenation > (run by several of those you apparently despise so much) sees more > site traffic than I do. 480 000 hits is about 3 weeks worth of my Topcities site. Never mind any of the other sites I have. Not like that's significant in any wise. SignatureComrade Mister Otto the Duke of Yamamoto http://mryamamoto.50megs.com 'Giving Viatology a bad name since 1898!' >> I'd suggest doing some research before pursuing the minor attacks. >> For example, 480,000 hits is about 5 weeks worth for my own website [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 480 000 hits is about 3 weeks worth of my Topcities site. Never mind any of > the other sites I have. Not like that's significant in any wise. I'm certainly not competing with *anybody*. My domain had ~85,500 hits last year, or slightly over 4,100 visits. That may sound low, if it weren't for the following facts about my site: * I don't advertise * I update on a glacial timeframe * I don't particularly *want* people to visit in the first place, being a site mainly for my own enjoyment. Signature~/Garth |"I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. Almgren | I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. ******* | And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant." --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) >I think 480,000 hits for the WHL last year is a prety good indicator of >success. They can't challenge that number (...even w/ their websites >combined), so they play childish games to reclaim the throne . Little do >these MTR kids know, they're little cheerleaders that funnel extra traffic >into my website. So in effect, they're conceivably increasing my ad >revenue. There is no throne. There is no competition. Why do you think so many people collaborate and work together and furnish content to one another's sites, even those with their own sites? I've got like a zillion photos on my site and yet if I come across a new West Virginia end or something else interesting from that state, or new cutouts from Virginia, I will give the photos to Adam to use on his pages. We're not in competition. We do it because we want to, not because we're trying to ring up hits. I probably could put up some advertising links, but I don't want to. I'm not in it to earn any money and I don't mind shelling out the 120 bucks a year or whatever it costs, plus a year's worth of DNR fees, to share something with people of similar interests. >Oh yeah, Sherman is short. Rich is a WASP. And I'm tall, fat and a WASP. What does that make me? :-D SignatureTo reply by e-mail, remove the "restrictor plate" On Jan 1, 9:10 pm, H.B. Elkins <hbelk...@mis.net.restrictorplate> wrote: > >I think 480,000 hits for the WHL last year is a prety good indicator of > >success. They can't challenge that number (...even w/ their websites [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > And I'm tall, fat and a WASP. What does that make me? :-D I'm still trying to get Carl's obsession with my height. He makes it out like i'm 4'8" . Maybe he's trying to make it like we're all looking up to him. > On Jan 1, 9:10 pm, H.B. Elkins <hbelk...@mis.net.restrictorplate> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > out like i'm 4'8" . Maybe he's trying to make it like we're all > looking up to him. If height is his measure of respect due I'm pretty sure I'll take him down a notch or two. LOL! Take care, Rich God bless the USA SignatureThat's one of the problems in this country The nuts don't know they're nuts. --Jeff Foxworthy >> I think 480,000 hits for the WHL last year is a prety good indicator of >> success. They can't challenge that number (...even w/ their websites [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > And I'm tall, fat and a WASP. What does that make me? :-D My look alike. ;-P Take care, Rich God bless the USA SignatureThat's one of the problems in this country The nuts don't know they're nuts. --Jeff Foxworthy On Jan 1, 6:10 pm, H.B. Elkins <hbelk...@mis.net.restrictorplate> wrote: > >I think 480,000 hits for the WHL last year is a prety good indicator of > >success. They can't challenge that number (...even w/ their websites [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > There is no throne. There is no competition. Yes, it became competition since I visited the East Coast. Since that time, a lot of viatologists from 'east of the Mississippi' thought they could "correct" general observations, like little retards. "Not only does Carl have a larger library than us, he dares to step into our so-called territory." In reality, the East Coast is merely a blip on the chart for the Worldwide Highway Library. As is the SF Bay Area. Trying telling that to your cohorts. Thing is, I respect your works HB--I've really got nothing against you. We're comparing ideology, which is almost as useless as a turd in a punchbowl. Why do you think so many people > collaborate and work together and furnish content to one another's sites, even > those with their own sites? I've got like a zillion photos on my site and yet if > I come across a new West Virginia end or something else interesting from that > state, or new cutouts from Virginia, I will give the photos to Adam to use on > his pages. We're not in competition. We do it because we want to, not because > we're trying to ring up hits. If that's your lifestyle choice, great. Not everyone is cut from the same mold, however. Following ad-populum in a niche community is one way of living life. > I probably could put up some advertising links, but I don't want to. I'm not in > it to earn any money and I don't mind shelling out the 120 bucks a year or > whatever it costs, plus a year's worth of DNR fees, to share something with > people of similar interests. I'm not you--plain and simple. We gauge success differently, though we overlap in some areas. Shades of gray... > On Jan 1, 6:10 pm, H.B. Elkins <hbelk...@mis.net.restrictorplate> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > got nothing against you. We're comparing ideology, which is almost as > useless as a turd in a punchbowl. You know the year is only one day old. But I think we have gotten the BS post of 2008 done and taken care of. >> On Jan 1, 6:10 pm, H.B. Elkins <hbelk...@mis.net.restrictorplate> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > You know the year is only one day old. But I think we have gotten the > BS post of 2008 done and taken care of. But we're only looking at it with that ECHM. Ya know, I may have to take him out of my kill file so I can read the full scope of the level of BS he's shoveling. Take care, Rich God bless the USA SignatureThat's one of the problems in this country The nuts don't know they're nuts. --Jeff Foxworthy On Jan 1, 10:12 pm, Rich Piehl <rpiehl5REMOVETHIS...@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote: > >> On Jan 1, 6:10 pm, H.B. Elkins <hbelk...@mis.net.restrictorplate> > >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Ya know, I may have to take him out of my kill file so I can read the > full scope of the level of BS he's shoveling. It's no longer the East Coast...it's now East of the Mississippi..soon to be east of the Rockies...you get the idea. >Ya know, I may have to take him out of my kill file so I can read the >full scope of the level of BS he's shoveling. You should. It's GREAT entertainment! Signature"Over the past few weeks, I've let a close friend (Eric) label certain MTR and RAD individuals as homosexuals. I do want to take this opportunity to apologise, for not taking my part in stopping this ignorant behaviour." - Carl Rogers, Message-ID: <HxG%i.17$AR7.6@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com> >> Ya know, I may have to take him out of my kill file so I can read the >> full scope of the level of BS he's shoveling. > > You should. It's GREAT entertainment! But it also might make my blood pressure rise to dangerous levels. Stupidity does that to me. Although if it gets high enough and I croak I can sue Carl for causing my death. Or my wife could anyway. That would be the wife that Eric says I don't have. Take care, Rich God bless the USA SignatureThat's one of the problems in this country The nuts don't know they're nuts. --Jeff Foxworthy On Jan 2, 1:07 pm, Rich Piehl <rpiehl5REMOVETHIS...@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote: > >> Ya know, I may have to take him out of my kill file so I can read the > >> full scope of the level of BS he's shoveling. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > my death. Or my wife could anyway. That would be the wife that Eric > says I don't have. It is amazing how krl tries to sound so "smart", and just comes off sounding stupider. He is pretty much in the MI5 category at this point. > On Jan 1, 6:10 pm, H.B. Elkins <hbelk...@mis.net.restrictorplate> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > time, a lot of viatologists from 'east of the Mississippi' thought > they could "correct" general observations, like little retards. Would you like to provide a cite for that? > "Not only does Carl have a larger library than us, he dares to step > into our so-called territory." [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > got nothing against you. We're comparing ideology, which is almost as > useless as a turd in a punchbowl. Yr so colourful when you go all 'workin' class' on us. What 'ideology' are you speaking of? > Why do you think so many people > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > I'm not you--plain and simple. We gauge[sic] success differently, though > we overlap in some areas. Shades of gray... And some of us don't even care about 'success' in any wise. I do my site for myself. If anyone else is entertained, that's just fine. There's no intent for personal gain involved. Period. > On Jan 1, 8:58 pm, Carl Rogers <carl-...@calrog.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > time, a lot of viatologists from 'east of the Mississippi' thought > they could "correct" general observations, like little retards. Well perhaps if you posted factual information, or at least made the effort to correct obvious errors that were pointed out, and didn't give such a high-and-mighty attitude when those errors were noted, the situation wouldn't have degenerated into the way it is now. > "Not only does Carl have a larger library than us, he dares to step > into our so-called territory." You just don't get it, do you? HBE is right...there is no competition. You weren't around when the good Comrade, who had one of the larger road-related sites at the time with a ton of material, had his website spontaneously disappear for the better part of 3 years. Since that time, the majority of us have viewed duplication (along with some collaboration if desired along the way) as a good thing. But there's also the expectation of accuracy and quality, and of acknowledging errors and making corrections as needed. And as John Weeks noted, your holier-than-thou attitude is not helping the situation any. I'll also go as far as to say that you can't admit when your wrong, and when someone pointed out an error and offered a correction or suggestion, you either completely ignore it or go ballistic. I don't agree with some of the antagonism that certain posters here have returned on you as a result, but neither do I agree with how you handled the situation. If anything, your own attitude has made it that much worse. Froggie > Yes, it became competition since I visited the East Coast. Since that > time, a lot of viatologists from 'east of the Mississippi' thought > they could "correct" general observations, like little retards. > > "Not only does Carl have a larger library than us, he dares to step > into our so-called territory." I'm convinced. You're a total f.cking nutter. You have a delusional system equivalent to the MI5 guy, if not worse, running rampant in your head. WM Burroughs once said 'Do not offer sympathy to the mentally ill. Tell them firmly:"I am not paid to listen to this drivel. You are a terminal boob."' Insofar as you are concerned, I think this is apt advice. I have better and more productive things to do w/my time than to trifle w/the likes of you. SignatureComrade Mister Otto the Duke of Yamamoto http://mryamamoto.50megs.com 'Giving Viatology a bad name since 1898!' > Yes, it became competition since I visited the East Coast. Since that > time, a lot of viatologists from 'east of the Mississippi' thought > they could "correct" general observations, like little retards. There are no "viatologists" anywhere but in your head. That is a word you made up, and I don't see anyone else calling themselves that, except to make fun of you. >In reality, the East Coast is merely a blip on the chart for the >Worldwide Highway Library. As is the SF Bay Area. Trying telling >that to your cohorts. Thing is, I respect your works HB--I've really >got nothing against you. We're comparing ideology, which is almost as >useless as a turd in a punchbowl. A turd in a punchbowl serves a purpose. It warns us not to drink the punch. I don't know -- or don't remember -- who may have objected when you put stuff from the east on your site, but it doesn't bother me. Suffice it to say that I don't consider myself to be in competition with you or anyone else. I'd prefer to think that we are all contributing to a hobby and a specialized interest group in our own subtly different ways. SignatureTo reply by e-mail, remove the "restrictor plate" Yes, it became competition since I visited the East Coast. Prove it "Not only does Carl have a larger library than us, he dares to step into our so-called territory." Cite. SignatureDon't forget to have your troll spayed or neutered >Yes, it became competition since I visited the East Coast. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Cite. How does one cite a delusion? Signature"Over the past few weeks, I've let a close friend (Eric) label certain MTR and RAD individuals as homosexuals. I do want to take this opportunity to apologise, for not taking my part in stopping this ignorant behaviour." - Carl Rogers, Message-ID: <HxG%i.17$AR7.6@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com> >>I think 480,000 hits for the WHL last year is a prety good indicator of >>success. They can't challenge that number (...even w/ their websites [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > because > we're trying to ring up hits. I'm in the same boat, meaning I'm not in competition with anyone. To me, it's pointless to compete in this hobby, not because my site is better or worse than another site, but because it's really not worth it to me. I just like to show my work of what I have seen along the way. My web site is in dire need of an update, but nevertheless, it's something I enjoy doing. Lately, I have devoted more of my free time in regards to roadgeeking to driving the roads themselves and taking pictures and videos along the way. It's not like I am going to win a big prize or anything by having the best roads site on the Internet. It is my opinion that Carl's ultimate goal is to have everyone who runs a roads-related website merge their work into the Worldwide Highway Library at calrog.com and thus happily settle into a system where we solely volunteer their efforts working for Carl, and of course, we will have to pay for the privilege too. I don't hold any ill will towards Carl, and I would like to wish him well on his latest project, but some things that are said do make me roll my eyes in wonder. > I probably could put up some advertising links, but I don't want to. I'm > not in > it to earn any money and I don't mind shelling out the 120 bucks a year or > whatever it costs, plus a year's worth of DNR fees, to share something > with > people of similar interests. That's about as much as it costs me for a year to operate gribblenation.net, plus I get something along the lines of more web space and bandwidth usage than I know what to do with. >>Oh yeah, Sherman is short. Rich is a WASP. > > And I'm tall, fat and a WASP. What does that make me? :-D >> Actually people are going to his website.. Why? f.ck if I don't know.. >> but it sure as hell isn't me. Apparently there are a lot of retards >> out there with no lives.. you know.. the type that do nothing all day >> except j.rk off to road signs and call themselves viatologists.. Sounds like Eric has you pegged, Carl. :) >Don't worry. It's their way of saying, "I can't compete w/ Carl monetarily, HUH? Are you saying you make more money than any of us? Then how come you still live in a rented apartment instead of a mansion? How come you drive a $20,000 Scion xB and not a Mercedes? How come you list your income on your MySpace page as being $75,000/year? Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you're saying. Perhaps you're saying that the $0.50 you earn in ad revenue is more than anyone else here ears from their ad revenue? If that's the case, then you're undoubtedly correct, as nobody else here posts road pictures in a lame attempt to earn money. We do it for FUN, not for financial gain. >socially or developmentally. LOL!! >So let me create an alternate reality to combat him". You're projecting again, Cal-El. You're the one in a delusional alternate reality where you're better than everyone else. >I think 480,000 hits for the WHL last year is a prety good indicator of >success. Actually, thanks to all the silly tricks you use, 480,000 page hits for you is equivalent to 480 page hits for a normal web site. >They can't challenge that number Correction: they don't CARE to challenge it. Nobody is counting hits except you. >>> The joke is on Cal-El. > >LOL. They create figurative caricatures. More projection. You are the one who compared yourself to Superman, and Comrade Otto to Lex Luthor. I'm just playing along with your delusions. >Oh well, my ad revenue's up, so >they're creativity is paying for my nights out on the town. Sounds like a "night on the town" for you consists of walking down to the corner gumball machine. :) BTW, thanks for the revealing post. Every time your fingers touch your keyboard, you reveal more and more of your true agenda for the world to see. Thanks for showing us the REAL Carl Rogers. Keep those posts coming! Signature"Therefore, you are not worth my time... Have an excellent weekend, Sunshine. Truth be told, I'll be too busy to respond back to you. My fiancée and I will be too busy love-making!" - Carl Rogers, Message-ID: <kekKg.23278$gY6.2474@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com> > you drive a $20,000 Scion xB The only way a Scion xB is worth 20 Gs is if it has 19 large in cash in the glove box. > I think 480,000 hits for the WHL last year is a prety good indicator of > success. They can't challenge that number (snip the rest of the crap) That's funny, because my web site -- which I don't advertise beyond a couple of links in my Thunderbird .sig (who reads .sigs anyway), and which I hardly update anymore -- has received 377,702 hits just since October 5. Going to a different date range, namely Jan 1 07 to Dec 31 07 inclusive, the figure is 1,661,157. I not only challenge that number, I obliterate it -- and I'm not even trying. SignatureLarry Harvilla e-mail: larry AT phatpage DOT org blog-aliciousness: http://www.phatpage.org/news/ Highways section still in progress at http://www.phatpage.org/highways.html > That's good you stupid queer pussy faggot. I didn't want to hear your > sh.t anyways. What a brilliant (half)wit. Been pajama shopping at Wal-mart lately, Eric? SignatureThat's one of the problems in this country The nuts don't know they're nuts. --Jeff Foxworthy Let me guess.. you heard that stupid a.s line from someone else? I'm thinking so since you have to quote a comedian since apparently you have no humor yourself. Pajama shopping at walmart? That's pretty retarded. I'm sure if I had said that to you, everyone else would have laughed and said that it was the stupidest thing they've ever heard. Please.. get a life. On Jan 1, 4:05 pm, Rich Piehl <rpiehl5REMOVETHIS...@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote: > > That's good you stupid queer pussy faggot. I didn't want to hear your > > sh.t anyways. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > --Jeff Foxworthy > Let me guess.. you heard that stupid a.s line from someone else? I'm > thinking so since you have to quote a comedian since apparently you > have no humor yourself. You're a one note song full of sound and fury signifying nothing. > Pajama shopping at walmart? That's pretty retarded. I'm sure if I had > said that to you, everyone else would have laughed and said that it > was the stupidest thing they've ever heard. No, we just think you're attack chihuahua shill for Carl who has no idea what he's really talking about and goes around throwing around third grade expressions and expecting us to be intimidated or impressed. > Please.. get a life. Please come up with an expression that isn't quite so trite. SignatureThat's one of the problems in this country The nuts don't know they're nuts. --Jeff Foxworthy >>What he hasn't figured out is that people aren't going to his site when >>it's for free. They sure aren't going to go there if he's going to charge. > > Actually people are going to his website.. Why? f.ck if I don't know.. The same people probably buy from penis pill spammers too... > I guess his New Year's resolution is to try to find new revenue streams. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What a joke. Adam Prince has been telling me CalQaeda was gonna do this since last year. I wasn't sure and said, nah. I was wrong. Looks Like the CalTrain has passed another stop on the line to Chessickville. SignatureComrade Mister Otto the Duke of Yamamoto http://mryamamoto.50megs.com 'Giving Viatology a bad name since 1898!' > On Jan 1, 2:06 pm, "Carl Rogers" <postmas...@calrog.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > windows from your website at anytime. We thank you for your interest either > way. To the long-timers...correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bob Chessick try this about 8-9 years back and subsequently dropped off the face of the Earth because it was such a dismal failure? To Carl...good luck with your endeavor, though based on past observation I wouldn't expect it to have the rousing success your "advertisement" claims it to be. And thus, I'd suggest not giving up your dayjob. Lastly, and for the record, I might otherwise be interested in Carl's raw graphic content, but not if there's a fee involved. Which I find disappointing, since virtually all the rest of us with websites, not to mention several state DOTs (via online video logs) and historical societies (Minnesota Historical Society being one) show the same type of material for free. But I digress... Froggie >> On Jan 1, 2:06 pm, "Carl Rogers" <postmas...@calrog.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> either >> way. >To the long-timers...correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bob Chessick >try this about 8-9 years back and subsequently dropped off the face of >the Earth because it was such a dismal failure? I believe it was a pay service for exit listings. Something that never really took off because similar content was being offered at no charge. I think it would've worked better using a different medium, such as cell phones (which, of course, is also being offered for free, as Jeff Kitsko has prepared mobile exit lists for select Western Pennsylvania highways). >To Carl...good luck with your endeavor, though based on past >observation I wouldn't expect it to have the rousing success your >"advertisement" claims it to be. And thus, I'd suggest not giving up >your dayjob. I'd like to be proven wrong about this, but I do not think a fee service for the raw content will be a success. This is because of the free access to photos and other files across the Internet, including those on our own web sites (check out http://gallery.gribblenation.net/ for a preview of my latest project, at no cost to you). My opinion on the matter is if Carl wants the premium service to have a little more success in the revenue earning department, he may want to try something like the Amazon Honor System. >Lastly, and for the record, I might otherwise be interested in Carl's >raw graphic content, but not if there's a fee involved. Which I find >disappointing, since virtually all the rest of us with websites, not >to mention several state DOTs (via online video logs) and historical >societies (Minnesota Historical Society being one) show the same type >of material for free. But I digress... > A dozen or so webmasters, many from the MTR newsgroup, have expressed > interest shenanigans > As traditional holds, the WHL's format employs a series of fixed-size > windows for all of its content. A dozen or so webmasters, many from the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > still link to fixed-size windows from your website at anytime. We thank > you for your interest either way. I thought you said this was because they were missing "critical HTML code?" http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/9703323d3d323e02 So now you want to charge people so they don't have to look at your mistakes? News flash for you - no one cares enough to pay you to see you correct mistakes that should be corrected for free. SignatureDon't forget to have your troll spayed or neutered > Hi Viatologists, > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com Thanks. This is a vast organizational improvement over the repository page. A couple of things. Make sure to catch your 404 page and provide a link back to the top of the menu structure (it appears that you can only go back to the repository page now and it tries to show up in the picture viewport, not using the whole window). Also, when you click the 'Close Window' link under some pictures, it sends you back to the top of the menu structure. Under other pictures, it tries to close the window. You probably want to make them all do one or the other, but not some doing one and some doing the other. > As traditional holds, the WHL's format employs a series of fixed-size > windows for all of its content. A dozen or so webmasters, many from the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > license, you may still link to fixed-size windows from your website at > anytime. We thank you for your interest either way. On the newest IE, it seems to size a viewport rather than the entire window. You just need to size the viewport correctly so that scroll bars don't appear. You want us to see the copyright msg, don't you? :-) Oh, and ditch the pricing plan. It smacks of commercialism and not hobbyism. The ads are bad enough. Signature--Andy > On Jan 3, 9:31 pm, Andrew Tompkins <andy...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Oh, and ditch the pricing plan. It smacks of commercialism and not > hobbyism. And his website announcements don't? Froggie >> On Jan 3, 9:31 pm, Andrew Tompkins <andy...@comcast.net> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Froggie Granted. But ask for inches, you may get them. Ask for miles, they probably won't show up. I made a suggestion about reorganizing the repository page 2 years ago. It finally appeared probably more because the repository page was becoming too unmanageable than my suggestion. I made the suggestion because I saw this happening with the type of index page being used at that time. Signature--Andy >> On Jan 3, 9:31 pm, Andrew Tompkins <andy...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> Oh, and ditch the pricing plan. It smacks of commercialism and not >> hobbyism. > And his website announcements don't? I think Carl wrote mudslinging ads for political candidates in a past life... >>> On Jan 3, 9:31 pm, Andrew Tompkins <andy...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I think Carl wrote mudslinging ads for political candidates in a past >life... Probably Michael Dukakis and Ross Perot... Signature"I personally do not care what others in this group value in terms of your contributions. You're closed-mindedness will ensure an artificial barrier which should keep you in the east coast of the United States." - Carl Rogers, Message-ID: <DAdUg.10629$6S3.3073@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> >>>> On Jan 3, 9:31 pm, Andrew Tompkins <andy...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Probably Michael Dukakis and Ross Perot... I was thinking Don Segretti from the Nixon campaign myself But Carl isn't nearly that bright. But then, Carl isn't even as bright as my belly button lint, so who's to say. Take care, Rich God bless the USA SignatureThat's one of the problems in this country The nuts don't know they're nuts. --Jeff Foxworthy > On the newest IE, it seems to size a viewport rather than the entire > window. You just need to size the viewport correctly so that scroll [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > -- > --Andy I've always felt that the worst part about his site are the broken links. Christ... it's bad enough having a site with few pictures of roads to speak of. It's worse when the only link to the "Worldwide Highway Library" photos that works is "Americas." I'd rather visit Wikipedia for photos of roads than visit his site. There are many WAY better sources for "viatologists" to "viatologize." Viatologist... heh... what a cream-your-jeans term. ~Dave >> On the newest IE, it seems to size a viewport rather than the entire >> window. You just need to size the viewport correctly so that scroll [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Highway Library" photos that works is "Americas." I'd rather visit > Wikipedia for photos of roads than visit his site. He said it wasn't going to be fully working for a week or two in his OP and specified how to get to the rest. Read the whole msg next time. Signature--Andy > >> On the newest IE, it seems to size a viewport rather than the entire > >> window. You just need to size the viewport correctly so that scroll [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > -- > --Andy I read the whole message, but that wasn't entirely my point, Andrew... sorry, I should have elaborated on it more. There have been broken links on his site before, regardless of when it has been "fully working" or how get to the rest in the meanwhile, so I really don't expect any less now or in the future. I suppose my main argument is that I've never thought of his website to be much more than just a glorified personal photo album, not an overall good source for photos and info on roads. For comparison, C.C.'s website may not be as hierarchically organized, but judging from his sense of humor and the way he presents himself, it's definitely within character, which is great, IMO. I think his website has some of the best exit lists too, nice use of graphics and table formating. However, I can see how it would be difficult to navigate for those who don't understand the words: "Freeway Junction Lists; Lists of Freeway exits in a variety of states" and "The All-Nite Images; My collection of road pictures from the Hudson Valley of New York and adjoining areas, as well as older road pictures." I can see how that would be difficult for even someone with a good command of the English language, let alone 3 other languages. After all, as they might say in Russia, "Vy dolzhny uchit'sya, ili vy budyete durakom." ~Dave > For comparison, C.C.'s website may not be as > hierarchically organized, but judging from his sense of humor and the > way he presents himself, it's definitely within character, which is > great, IMO. My website is a chronology-You see things in the order that I get them; and that can be pretty random sometimes, but it's the *Experience*, and 'experiences' don't come in any predefined order. The website is more like a journey, and you get to see the objects I find and/or modify along the way. Not particularly comforting to those who prefer more linear organisation, but then, that's the way I deal with the world around me. Boy, is that philosophical enough? You'd almost think I take myself seriously. Comrade Otto The Duke Of Yamamoto http://mryamamoto.50megs.com >>>> On the newest IE, it seems to size a viewport rather than the entire >>>> window. You just need to size the viewport correctly so that scroll [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > languages. After all, as they might say in Russia, "Vy dolzhny > uchit'sya, ili vy budyete durakom." Sorry, I agree on all of your points. The last 2 sentences in your previous msg shifted the context for me more toward his new site organization. Between that and the fact that there are all too many cases here where it's obvious that people didn't read the whole msg, I chose to make a comment. You just happened to be the convenient target this time. :-) If I find a broken link or a link to the wrong place in any website, I'll let the owner know. It becomes their responsibility to make the change. If they CHOOSE not to (as Carl seems to), that's their problem. Signature--Andy >>> On the newest IE, it seems to size a viewport rather than the entire >>> window. You just need to size the viewport correctly so that scroll [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >He said it wasn't going to be fully working for a week or two in his OP >and specified how to get to the rest. Read the whole msg next time. Well, since Carl won't listen to what anyone else has to say, why would you be surprised when folks return the favor? Signature"You can all kiss my @ss!" - Carl Rogers, Message-ID: <IE1ej.2353$se5.298@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com> |
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