> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=764558565826177091
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> - gpsman
What kind of vehicle is that, and do you use standard sealed-beam format
headlights? If you're driving on roads like that you *NEED* E-codes,
preferably with a relay harness. Screw being legal, I wanna see where
the heck I'm going.
check this:
http://danielsternlighting.com/tech/relays/relays.html
http://danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html
I'm running the standard Cibie 7" reflectors with standard 55/60W bulbs
in the Fabulous BeaterPorsche. Also got a relay harness from the late
Dan Wray AKA "IceShark" on Pelican. I was prompted to buy them when I
found myself commuting after dark on a road about as well illuminated as
the one in your video; I couldn't maintain above 40 MPH even on high
beam. Got the E-codes in and it was like night and day. Nice and
inoffensive on low beam due to the sharp cutoff; if you aim them
properly the only possible way they could dazzle an oncoming driver is
cresting a hill.
Seriously, you have no idea what you're missing until you've driven
behind *GOOD* headlights. It makes driving the POS pickup that much
more painful at night ('93 Ford; no easy upgrade available, although
there are some cheezy "crystal clear" aftermarket reflectors available
that couldn't possibly have a *worse* beam pattern than the stockers, I
might have to try them someday if it becomes anything resembling a
regular driver.)
I am so sold on E-codes I bought another pair for the '55 Stude, just in
case. They're that good.
I do have a set of fairly illegal (as if E-codes aren't illegal enough,
but there's a reason for this one) 90/100W H4 bulbs, but haven't even
been tempted to put them in. The combo of the standard H4s, relay
harness, and a Transpo voltage regulator means I have a true 14.1V at
the headlights and the light output is amazing. I suppose I might try
them if I lived out in a really rural area and did lots of driving at
night, but I'd think that a 60/100 bulb (if such a thing exists) would
be better, to reduce the risk of blinding other drivers on low beam.
nate

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Brent P - 07 Jan 2008 00:16 GMT
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=764558565826177091
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> preferably with a relay harness. Screw being legal, I wanna see where
> the heck I'm going.
Gpstroll isn't going to listen. He doesn't listen on anything else...
USDOT has his back, he doesn't need anything better, there is no better
law is the law us regulations top of the world and all that crap.
Scott in SoCal - 07 Jan 2008 02:14 GMT
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=764558565826177091
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>> Just running the camera on a night darker than the inside of a cow to
>> get a baseline for exposure adjustment, and lucked out... twice.
If only Cal-El's nighttime videos were that good...
>What kind of vehicle is that, and do you use standard sealed-beam format
>headlights? If you're driving on roads like that you *NEED* E-codes,
>preferably with a relay harness. Screw being legal, I wanna see where
>the heck I'm going.
Obviously GPSTroll has no concern with legality - you see him
blatantly crossing a double-yellow center line in that video. :)

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Nate Nagel - 07 Jan 2008 02:18 GMT
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> Obviously GPSTroll has no concern with legality - you see him
> blatantly crossing a double-yellow center line in that video. :)
Aw, c'mon, he was playing reasonably nice this time. While I agree that
it's not a good idea, it's understandable given the scenario. (one of
those reflexes that isn't always a good one though; hard braking might
have been a better choice, although you don't always get time to
consciously think about what you're going to do.)
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Scott in SoCal - 07 Jan 2008 16:06 GMT
>> Obviously GPSTroll has no concern with legality - you see him
>> blatantly crossing a double-yellow center line in that video. :)
>
>Aw, c'mon, he was playing reasonably nice this time.
Just giving him a dose of his own medicine. That is *precisely* the
sort of disingenuous bullshit that GPSTroll always says to everyone
else.

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gpsman - 07 Jan 2008 18:28 GMT
> >> Obviously GPSTroll has no concern with legality - you see him
> >> blatantly crossing a double-yellow center line in that video. :)
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> sort of disingenuous bullshit that GPSTroll always says to everyone
> else.
"Always"...?
Pointing out that you make judgments based on insufficient evidence,
and misjudge with plenty of evidence, is hardly "disingenuous".
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/disingenuous
: lacking in candor; also : giving a false appearance of simple
frankness
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N8N - 07 Jan 2008 20:00 GMT
> > >> Obviously GPSTroll has no concern with legality - you see him
> > >> blatantly crossing a double-yellow center line in that video. :)
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> - gpsman
Anyone got a link to that "aw geez not this s**t again" pic?
nate
N8N - 07 Jan 2008 21:53 GMT
> > > >> Obviously GPSTroll has no concern with legality - you see him
> > > >> blatantly crossing a double-yellow center line in that video. :)
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> nate
never mind
http://www.e-pix.org/img365.htm
nate
(bored and needed to kill 5 minutes)
necromancer - 08 Jan 2008 05:55 GMT
N8N:
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> > Anyone got a link to that "aw geez not this s**t again" pic?
> >
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> http://www.e-pix.org/img365.htm
Thanks for the reference. I'll have to keep it im mind next time that
GPS or SFB decide to rear their ugly heads.
In the mean time, I'll refer gpsman to the following page:
http://www.worldofnecromancer.org/stfu.html
(Others may fee free to refer gpsman to this page also)
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With a long Baseball Bat... [Very unfriendly...]"
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gpsman - 07 Jan 2008 15:21 GMT
> What kind of vehicle is that, and do you use standard sealed-beam format
> headlights? If you're driving on roads like that you *NEED* E-codes,
> preferably with a relay harness. Screw being legal, I wanna see where
> the heck I'm going.
Dood: Thanks for the concern, but the video is (much) more
representative of a crappy camera (and/or camera operator) than crappy
headlights.
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Kevin Rhodes - 08 Jan 2008 02:46 GMT
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=764558565826177091
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>check this:
Thoroughly seconded! I have e-codes on all four of my cars. I was able to
avoid a couple of deer a few weeks back in the Mercedes that I would
definitely have not seen in time with the craptastic US-spec lights.
What amazes me in our 'oh-so-safety-minded land' is that headlight washers
aren't required. I normally drive either my Mercedes 300TE or Saab 900 in the
winter, both of which are equiped with headlight wash/wipe. Tonight I had to
take my BMW 535i on a 50 mile trip, which has Hella e-codes but no wash/wipe -
I couldn't see a damned thing after 10 minutes on the highway! It has been a
while since I drove a car without wash/wipe on sloppy roads - it was downright
scary!
Most of Europe has required headlight washers and in-car (or automatic) level
adjustment for ages. I have the level adjusters in the Benz too - though they
aren't all that necessary as it has self-leveling hydraulic rear suspension
too.
Kevin Rhodes
Sloppy snowy Westbrook, Maine
'88 MB300 TE (Euro-spec E-codes and Euro wash/wipe setup)
'92 Saab C900CVT (E-codes and stock wash wipe)
'86 BMW 535i (Hella 5.25" e-codes)
'74 Triumph Spitfire (Hella 7" e-codes and relays - and actual fuses!)
Nate Nagel - 08 Jan 2008 02:54 GMT
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> I would definitely have not seen in time with the craptastic US-spec
> lights.
I'm not sure if your particular Benz uses "aero style" US-spec lights or
not, but I think in some cases the Kraut engineers punish us for not
harmonizing with ECE regs by putting the worst possible lights on their
US versions of their cars. Case in point: VW Corrado. The fog lights
actually do a better job of lighting up the road than the low beams.
(got a relay harness and E-codes in that one as well, even though it's
the girlie's car. Too bad it's still in pieces.)
nate

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gpsman:
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=764558565826177091
Tsk... Tsk... Tsk... Overdriving your sightlines again, I see....
> Just running the camera on a night darker than the inside of a cow to
> get a baseline for exposure adjustment,
Excuses, excuses....
> and lucked out... twice.
Spurious conclusion. There is no such thing as, "luck."
> If you think it's too dark you should see it before I boosted the
> luminance.
Then you either need a better camera or better headlights. I second
Nate's comments.

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Arif Khokar - 08 Jan 2008 14:15 GMT
> Then you either need a better camera or better headlights. I second
> Nate's comments.
I don't have video, but here's a picture I took while driving at night
with my selective yellow e-code headlamps.
<http://filebox.vt.edu/~aikhokar/headlamps/on_road_low.jpg> Obviously
gpstard's headlamps suck.