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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / January 2008Mean ol'Mom sells son's car
With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something right. http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/01/09/mean.mom.ap/index.html Here's a couple of snippets from the article: "After finding alcohol in her son's car, she decided to sell the car and share her 19-year-old's misdeed with everyone -- by placing an ad in the local newspaper. The ad reads: "OLDS 1999 Intrigue. Totally uncool parents who obviously don't love teenage son, selling his car. Only driven for three weeks before snoopy mom who needs to get a life found booze under front seat. $3,700/offer. Call meanest mom on the planet."" and "The only critic is her son, who Hambleton says is "very, very unhappy" with the ad and claims the alcohol was left by a passenger. Hambleton believes her son but has decided mercy isn't the best policy in this case. She says she set two rules when she bought the car at Thanksgiving: No booze, and always keep it locked." - Peter Peter Lawrence: > With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their > children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something right. > > http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/01/09/mean.mom.ap/index.html << snip article >> What a refreshing change from the usual parents who would have done nothing and then defended their kids actions like nothing else when they cause a disaster.  SignatureLoco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend defends a known *DRUNK DRIVER*: "Teddy went off a single lane bridge with no guard rail at night. The real killer was the idiot who built the bridge. Next question." --Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE June 20th, 2006 Ref: http://tinyurl.com/zlnyz Message ID: qcch92lislem5sqq92qgf7hf9mlm847sgh@4ax.com On Jan 9, 3:26 pm, necromancer > Peter Lawrence: > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Ref:http://tinyurl.com/zlnyz > Message ID: qcch92lislem5sqq92qgf7hf9mlm847...@4ax.com <S&DDAM_mode> Another murder plot foiled! Yaaaaaaayyyy!!! </ S&DDAM_mode> Amazing I beat SFB to the punch. :-D > Peter Lawrence: >> With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >nothing and then defended their kids actions like nothing else when they >cause a disaster. About 10 years back, a couple of 19 year olds, home from college on break, used fake IDs to purchase beer from a local mom-and-pop restaurant. They had been using the IDs elsewhere, so they were pretty well hammered by the time they got to the restaurant, and the pitchers they got there just fueled the fire. They depart, and on the way home, the driver loses control of his vehicle, and hits a tree at a pretty good clip. This snapped the lower spine of his passenger (who was supposedly his best friend), paralyzing him for life. Of course, Dee Dee Mitchell, the driver's mother (a reasonably well known individual in this 'burg) sued the restaurant into oblivion, although in hindsight I wonder if she got a "get out of a very nasty civil suit" free card by suing the restaurant before she got it herself. I wonder if those two retards are still "best friends." SignatureSarcasm is my sword Apathy is my shield > Peter Lawrence: >> With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >nothing and then defended their kids actions like nothing else when they >cause a disaster. Or, even worse, buy the little drunkard a new M3 and try to convince the cops that THEY, not the irresponsible little punk, were driving. Signature"You can all kiss my @ss!" - Carl Rogers, Message-ID: <IE1ej.2353$se5.298@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com> > With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their > children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something right. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > in this case. She says she set two rules when she bought the car at > Thanksgiving: No booze, and always keep it locked." Before I commend someone for taking responsiblity, I wonder whose name was on the title? If it was the 19 year old adult's, she stole his car. > > With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their > > children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something right. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - 19 years old...minor in possession of alcohol. Mom possibly stealing kid's car as punishment. Ah cool; send both to jail! Now to take a break...to the latrine to take a SADDAM. >> > With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their >> > children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something right. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> > "After finding alcohol in her son's car, she decided to sell the car and= p> >> > share her 19-year-old's misdeed with everyone -- by placing an ad in the= > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Ah cool; send both to jail! Ha. Wait until the other shoe drops -- the whole alcohol story is a ruse to inflate the selling price on the car. (what, cynical, me?). According to Edmunds the private party selling price of a 1999 Olds Intrigue is considerably less than $3700. If the story is true, probably the mom titled it in her own name. SignatureThere's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. > > > With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their > > > children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something right. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Now to take a break...to the latrine to take a SADDAM\ The 19 year old may be a minor as far as alcohol goes, but he's a legal adult. If this was HIS vehicle, the mother had no right to sell it. She can kick him out of the house, not help him pay for his insurance, or stop wiping his a.s, or call the cops on him, but she's NOT allowed to sell something that's not hers. >> > > With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their >> > > children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > insurance, or stop wiping his a.s, or call the cops on him, but she's > NOT allowed to sell something that's not hers. well,then the son could have his mom arrested and prosecuted for FRAUD. (and/or forgery,if she signed HIS name to the title at sale) Or the buyer could,as he/she would not have clear title to the car. the most likely situation is that the mom still had title to the car,and only was allowing her son to use it.He screwed up and lost that privelege. Tough. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > > > > With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their > > > > children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something right. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Read the article. It clearly says that momma bought the car. Harry K > > With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their > > children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something right. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > was on the title? If it was the 19 year old adult's, she stole his > car.- Hide quoted text - Because God forbid we hold anybody accountable. Just make sure someone's right to be a minor in possession not be trampled... E.P. >> Before I commend someone for taking responsiblity, I wonder whose name >> was on the title? If it was the 19 year old adult's, she stole his >> car.- Hide quoted text - > > Because God forbid we hold anybody accountable. Just make sure > someone's right to be a minor in possession not be trampled... The contract between the 19yr old and the mother and holding the 19 yr old to it is fine. The idea that the government gets to nanny an adult is another thing entirely. Old enough to die in Iraq for empire too young for the nannys to have a beer. > In article <679e8f45-f4c9-4159-b759-ed191bb6b...@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Ed Pirrero wrote: > >> Before I commend someone for taking responsiblity, I wonder whose name [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > another thing entirely. Old enough to die in Iraq for empire too young > for the nannys to have a beer. For once we agree. Same goes for stuff other than beer, as well. Shoot it, snort it, smoke it. Do it responsibly, and I got no problem. E.P. > > > With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their > > > children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something right. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Because God forbid we hold anybody accountable. Just make sure > someone's right to be a minor in possession not be trampled... The law can deal with the 19 year old that MIGHT be in possesion. I'm all for holding someone accountable, but it's not the mother's place if this is legally his vehicle. >> > > With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their >> > > children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > all for holding someone accountable, but it's not the mother's place > if this is legally his vehicle. If it was legally HIS vehicle,she could NOT have sold it. Her name would not have be on the title. Selling a car she doesn't own or have title to(same thing) would be criminal FRAUD.The owner of title could repossess the car and the defrauded buyer could have her arrested for fraud. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > > > > With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their > > > > children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something right. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > all for holding someone accountable, but it's not the mother's place > if this is legally his vehicle. How do you know it wasn't her name on the title? E.P. > > > > > With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their > > > > > children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something right. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > - Show quoted text - The article says that momma bought the car. If it weren't her name there, she couldn't sell it without sonny agreeing and signing the title. I do have a problem with a 19 yoa not buying his own car at that price range. Even a burger flipper should be able to come up with that scratch. Of course if he were a full time studnt and all his earnings going into education expenses... Harry K >> > > > > With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to >> > > > > their children driving, here's a story of a parent to did [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > > Harry K often,parents buy their kids a car upon graduation. Mine didn't. Some get new,some get used,some get a "hand-me-down". At 16,I bought(with my own money)two junk 64 Triumph Heralds and made them into one good car,with the help of my dad. Had my own separate insurance,too. That was a long time ago,when things were less expensive. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > >> > > > > With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to > >> > > > > their children driving, here's a story of a parent to did [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > > - Show quoted text - $3700 today is far easier to come up with than back when I was in the market. (1954). Dunno what inflation has done but that would have been around a 500 car back then and my whole summers wages wouldn't have made that. Harry K >I do have a problem with a 19 yoa not buying his own car at that price >range. Even a burger flipper should be able to come up with that >scratch. Well, consider what kind of kid drives around with an open bottle of booze in his car. Someone as irresponsible as that probably doesn't have the discipline to save up enough for even a $3700 car. Signature"You can all kiss my @ss!" - Carl Rogers, Message-ID: <IE1ej.2353$se5.298@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com> >>>>With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their >>>>children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something right. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > all for holding someone accountable, but it's not the mother's place > if this is legally his vehicle. I doubt it was or she wouldn't have been able to sell it, unless the deal was something like "if you don't sell your car you can move out, get a job, etc." which is her prerogative. She was kinder to him than a cop busting him for an open container violation would have been... worked out better for him in the long run, even if he now has to drop a couple kilobucks on another vehicle. nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel Larry Bud <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote in news:ece1a48f-7cd6-4c99-b34c- 13f71c050fca@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com: >> With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their >> children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something right. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > was on the title? If it was the 19 year old adult's, she stole his > car. well,IIRC,the article said she bought the car. She would have had to own the car in order to sell it legally,to legally transfer the title to a new owner. If the title was not transferred properly,the real title owner could simply repossess the car.Then the buyer would have grounds for suing the mother for fraud. I'm not a lawyer. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > Larry Bud <larrybud2...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:ece1a48f-7cd6-4c99-b34c- > 13f71c050...@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > I'm not a lawyer. I don't believe the article says the car was sold, but that the mother placed an ad. >> Larry Bud <larrybud2...@yahoo.com> wrote in >> news:ece1a48f-7cd6-4c99-b34c- [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > I don't believe the article says the car was sold, but that the mother > placed an ad. I have read in a later article that she said the car was already sold but she was considering keeping the ad running for another week as a statement. She said she had gotten a lot of calls supporting her actions,a few against them. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net >>> Larry Bud <larrybud2...@yahoo.com> wrote in >>> news:ece1a48f-7cd6-4c99-b34c- [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >I have read in a later article that she said the car was already sold but >she was considering keeping the ad running for another week as a statement. KTLA also reported that the car has been sold. Signature"You can all kiss my @ss!" - Carl Rogers, Message-ID: <IE1ej.2353$se5.298@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com> > > Larry Bud <larrybud2...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:ece1a48f-7cd6-4c99-b34c- > > 13f71c050...@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Read the article. It clearly says the car has been sold. Harry K >> With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their >> children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something right. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >was on the title? If it was the 19 year old adult's, she stole his >car. You cannot sell a car unless YOUR name is on the title. Think about it: this is a 19-year-old man-child who still lives at home with his mommy. He can't afford to buy his own car, so he probably can't afford teenager-as-owner-and-sole-driver insurance rates, either. There's no question that Mommy's name was on that title. Signature"You can all kiss my @ss!" - Carl Rogers, Message-ID: <IE1ej.2353$se5.298@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com> > With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their > children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something right. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > - Peter I have to say I believe the Mother did the right thing. She may have saved somebody's life by selling it. I would like to think I would have done the same thing if he were my child. Charles R. Whealton Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com >>With all the parents that make bad decisions in regards to their >>children driving, here's a story of a parent to did something right. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Charles R. Whealton > Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com I don't know if I'd go that far, but it's likely that the kid was in violation of open container laws, so it's certainly reasonable for her to assume that he was not operating the vehicle in compliance with the law. Therefore, since it was likely registered in her name, she decided to sell it. Done. nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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