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Let's Fix Highways & Bridges by Increasing Fines for Criminal Drivers

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 22 Jan 2008 16:23 GMT
Let's increase the fines for speeding and drunk driving and red light
running  by a factor of 10 and use that money to fix our crumbling
infrastructure. Why should law abiding drivers pay for that?. Make the SLOs
and DUIs and RLRs pay. Criminal drivers are kid killers and have no rights
anyway.
Mike Tantillo - 22 Jan 2008 16:30 GMT
On Jan 22, 11:23 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Let's increase the fines for speeding and drunk driving and red light
> running  by a factor of 10 and use that money to fix our crumbling
> infrastructure. Why should law abiding drivers pay for that?. Make the SLOs
> and DUIs and RLRs pay. Criminal drivers are kid killers and have no rights
> anyway.

They just did this in VA.  Public outrage was so bad that they are now
repealing it.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 22 Jan 2008 18:32 GMT
> They just did this in VA.  Public outrage was so bad that they are now
> repealing it.

You're a liar.  They are not repealing it and there is no public
outrage. Most people know criminal drivers are killers and want them
punished severely.
nitespark - 22 Jan 2008 19:19 GMT
>>They just did this in VA.  Public outrage was so bad that they are now
>>repealing it.
>
> You're a liar.  They are not repealing it and there is no public
> outrage. Most people know criminal drivers are killers and want them
> punished severely.

Please cite your source of information.

http://www.roanoke.com/news/breaking/wb/148013
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 23 Jan 2008 00:51 GMT
>>>They just did this in VA.  Public outrage was so bad that they are now
>>>repealing it.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Please cite your source of information.

It's source of information is the radio waves from the planet
udoqweaywq in the orion cluster.

>http://www.roanoke.com/news/breaking/wb/148013

Next thing the public should do is vote the idiots out who allowed the
legislation to be enacted in the first place.

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Sarcasm is my sword
Apathy is my shield

nitespark - 23 Jan 2008 11:10 GMT
>>>>They just did this in VA.  Public outrage was so bad that they are now
>>>>repealing it.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>>http://www.roanoke.com/news/breaking/wb/148013

You impressed me as an obsessive idiot.  Now you have confirmed it.
You have no credibility.  I asked a legitimate question based on a
statement you made.  I cited a source to refute it.  Instead of
acknowledging you may have mis-spoken, you come up with some idiotic
reply.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 24 Jan 2008 00:30 GMT
>>>>>They just did this in VA.  Public outrage was so bad that they are now
>>>>>repealing it.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>acknowledging you may have mis-spoken, you come up with some idiotic
>reply.

Read some more posts by the person who started this thread, and get
back to us on that.

I'm sure the majority of the group's regs will give me FAR more
credibility than the person I was poking fun at. As for your
perception of my credibility, I don't really give a sh.t.

--

Half drunk is a waste of money.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 24 Jan 2008 00:35 GMT
>>>>>They just did this in VA.  Public outrage was so bad that they are now
>>>>>repealing it.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>acknowledging you may have mis-spoken, you come up with some idiotic
>reply.

Let's see if we can help to remove some of your ignorance, because
you're obviously in a great need of that. The idiot you asked for the
cite has posted under many nyms (does the term "troll" have any
significance to you?). Most of the group's regs refer to it as Aunt
Judy, since that's one of the nyms it's used in the past.

Here's a snippet of some of it's more interesting posts, although I've
stopped archiving them as it's a waste of time. After reading through
them, do you think it could possibly have a credible source of
information to cite?

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Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend (Xeton2001@yahoo.com)'s words of
wisdom, love, and respect (spelling and grammatical errors left
intact)

Same with the DUI charge against teddy. No evidence for that either.
Kennedy went off (at night) a single lane bridge with no guard rail.
Almost all vehicle "accidents" are due to driver recklessness but the
Chappaquidick incident is one instance where it may really have been
no ones fault except the idiot who built the bridge.
: http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/485c5584ef278a9?hl=en

Tires are easy to slash and a slashed tire can't be fixed.
: http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/msg/ff4a6aba73e37b4e?dmode=sou
rce&hl=en

Hell i once painted a whole car with a bunch of spray cans.
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/87a3603ea30d02b5?hl=en&

WTF are you talking about.
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/4af4fd12317cc20d?hl=en&

The cameras don't catch everyone. I have never been nailed for this.
Obey the law.
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/3ab8ed5067232000?hl=en

Little batty am i??? I am the battiest person in history
: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/fc97ffa7f2fa79bc?hl=en&

In many instances you can't see far enough to your left to check if
it's safe to turn unless you drive into the X-walk.
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/216d067be9306b8b?hl=en&

I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal
crash.
: http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/a376114ee8a61824?hl=en

BECAUSE YOU'RE A BUTTHOLE, THAT'S
WHY.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/msg/1c6e0c4962a88206?hl=en&

Be like me - stick with the facts.
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.golf/msg/43d2f90029783d30?hl=en&

Why can't you give yourself a "name handle" instead of that idiotic
"political statement handle"???
:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/0e235902279e38f0?hl=en&

Tires don't blow out anymore.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/9a619fee7f463fc2

Would you rather have a tire blowout at 90 or 50?
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/60203e2351ea4120?hl=en&

At first i thought the tars had been slashed but no, the tars were
fine
: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780e
a958.0410311926.d89b941%40posting.google.com

My tars have been bald for two years. Every month i glue some
sandpaper to them and everythings cool - as long as you drive slow and
sensible.
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/d0d9405ce0464706?hl=en&

If you speed loons would just slow down we wouldn't have a problem.
drive them until the holes get too big for that tire-in-a-can stuff to
work. Then do what I do and go to pep boys and get a set of used
retreads for $50 and repeat.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/dbe7ec33863c0fc4?hl=en

Just get in front of the trucker and lob a handful or marbles at his
windshield. Perfectly legal since he started it.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/acf43f4e647f4416?hl=en&

I wish everyone involved in this "accident" had died.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/5f4bfd6988914951?hl=en

Driving twenty year old beaters doesn't keep me up to date. Anyway
it's a stupid idea.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/ff331395cfc7b81b?hl=en

My dash lights burned out years ago.
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/1edbd9e8ee94fa7a?

Screw driver training and courtesy.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/d4aaae4439d8c383

I don't care who i kill; it's just an accident.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/79da070478765cee

Even a safety nut like me doesn't carry things that far.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/c24964a9d26bba6d?hl=en&

You are a COMPLETE EMMEFFING MORON with no physical intuition at all.
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/5506a386f2fb4da9?hl=en&

If you love cars then you love speeding and reckless driving and that
means you love killing and maiming children.
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/f1e9f5e4c1382edb?hl=en&

Tailgaters are members of NAMCLA. Don't crowd me or you will DIE!!!!
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/2649446b854b9b07?hl=en&

the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie. I get
RESPECT now.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en

There's a 55mph freeway near where i live and if i do 50, everybody
passes me. But if i do 60 very few do.
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/d4c539a34f9a706f?hl=en&

Yes, but never deliberately. In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in
cause i was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open stretch
could be 25, i thought. Turns out the cop was right. No complaints
from me then. I should have known the law.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.autos/msg/b140009050c624a9

America is the terror & torture capital of the world. Ony a pervert
like you would defend that.
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.golf/msg/5961c9e14a10257c?hl=en&

STFU YOU HATEFILLED TROLL.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.sport.golf/msg/4bafc59af1481a15?hl=en

I'm the troll here dood.
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/15b11b019363dee4?hl=en&

I'm the troll here.
: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.golf/msg/d6c3bc1eb365fc67?hl=en&

Fork you, beyatch. I'm the greatest troll that ever lived!!!!
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/8316b755126bd447

Being a troll is an honorable life.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/c795f38d501be2d8?hl=en&

SHOVE IT YOU GODDAMN HYPOCRITE. LOOK AT HOW YOU REPUGS EXPLOITED 9-11
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/83941c737d27388f?hl=en&

Colin powell was not black, you idiot.
: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/d353aca699d28854?hl=en&

I know you're paid to come on here and spout these idiocies
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/9384db67599b
93f3?hl=en
&

Fork the dictionary. You've got your definitions and we've got ours.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/a74373e47d63
8020?hl=en

Hey dood. I've been a US senator since 98! You mean you didn't know
that???
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/2f1dd067aa0af690

I never voted in my life, you lying whore. All elections are rigged.
The globalists rigged this one by paying kerry not to attack bush.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/87a31e73cec1db38

It's all about money. Most organ transplants are unnecessary but
doctors make a fortune off them so we have them.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/19e5ff027e51
bd5a?hl=en

That "microphone" could have been filled with battery acid. Cruise
should have pulled a knife and slit the guy's guts out.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/msg/84af48b0cba14e15?hl=en

Put AEOS on the list too. It came out with great earnings and guidance
today and yet went down 7% on very heavy volume. When a stock sells
off on good news, it's going much lower.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/msg/1a9e462f5ff431de?hl=en

Of course he does. With a name like roger, you know he's a pervert.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/38c4ddd6a5640c4a?hl=en

What is the P&G logo?. I just went to their WS and didn't see any.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/9acb6a6cd49d23aa?hl=en

Hey stupid. I told you the other day to stop using the phrase
"conspiracy theorist". We're gover-media skeptics.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/402c7cb69523
57e9?hl=en

There's not a shred of evidence that the jerries murdered anything
close to 7 million jooz. Another monstrous lie just like the 9-11
official story.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/3650866dc7ecbadc

All his amnesty talk puzzled me because most conservatives are
hatefilled racists and don't want the greaseballs in this country.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/172c99cba6ba
cc3c?hl=en

You're crazy. There will be a draft. Bush is gonna stage another 9-11
type event and then say we have no choice but to go to war against
every muslim nation. And democrats will say nothing.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/b4a8ea8427fdf968

You are an ignoramus. 9-11 was an inside job. That's for sure.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/d4b6e83b246dae5
e?hl=en

The issue is the psychopath doing 60 mph OVER THE LIMIT!!!!!!!!. This
guy is a murderer and i want him locked up anyway they can do it.
Three cheers for the cops.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=780ea958.0411162236.1a4d23a5%40posting.goog
le.com


Market economy???? HAHAHAHA. Prices are whatever the monopolists want
to charge.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/23c9a9e267ecc08
f?hl=en

The Federal Reserve is not a branch of the govt; it's a group of
private banks and borrowing from them means the taxpayers have to pay
the interest to the banks. This has been going on for nearly a hundred
years and it's just stealing from the public and giving to the
bankers. JUST PRINT THE DAMN MONEY.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/f15b1f7d7ea0dfe2

I'm not talking about increasing the money supply; just replacing
borrowed money with printed money.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/760bbaea47e5f5f9

I know what you mean, dood. I did 5 years in the can myself for
beating the crap out of a half-dozen faggot gun loonies i caught
raping a collie and I couldn't handle the food either. Goddam beets
with every meal. Ended up eating nothing but cans of tuna i bought at
the commy.
: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780e
a958.0411242021.7b529c17%40posting.google.com

I don't think knife bans will ever happen, since knives are so damn
easy to make. I remember when i was in prison for beating up a dozen
gun loonies and we used to melt down a thousand or so aspirin tablets
into a thick goo and then let it harden into a knife shape which we
sharpened against the concrete floor. Anybody can make a knife
anywhere out of anything.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.rush-limbaugh/msg/018c5bbd64dd19ac

GODDAMMIT - STOP SENDING MESSAGES TO MORE THAN FIVE GROUPS
Google won't allow more than five. It's not my job to delete excessive
group listings but i seem to spend half my life doing that. OBEY THE
RULES, YOU BUTTHOLES!!!!
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/c3d2661d3c6734ed

I am not paid to delete the excessive newsgroups you clowns are
posting to. Obey the rules or GTF out of here!!!!
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/f5c7a53c81f28cdf

Bush is dictator and that means he has to take the blame for
everything.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/a2d35f67fd7b6003

Has he killed as many people as Laura Bush?
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.flame.niggers/msg/c2ff1fca08982a38

LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH
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: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/b9727d351b4be64a

You don't know what you're talking about, dood. AIDS is an american
bioweapon developed by americans so that blacks would be esp
susceptible to it.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.sport.baseball/msg/cd9d112311697712

She knows it won't matter. Blake is white so the media will insist on
a not guilty verdict.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/msg/59c74805c56a5747

YOu stupid lying shithead. All bush has accomplished in AFG is to make
it the world's leading heroin supplier.
And BTW it wasn't a war. It was a massacre against a defenseless
nation that never did anything to us.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/29a86842abe0d9d6

She's just damn lucky the press is owned by the GOP and doesn't
crucify her for vehicular manslaughter like they've done to ted
kennedy for 35 years.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/cac630fd8aec9a63

I'm saying that bush obviously doesn't want to catch OBL. Not now that
the election is over, anyway.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/46a00a246987524f

You're crazy, dood. Google is a super rw org and they censor liberals.
RW posters here get away with everything while libs have to be choir
boys.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/ca35950242741f13

That's why so many legal scholars think republicans should be banned
from juries. Anyone who'd vote for a man who lied us into war is too
dumb to sit on a jury.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/msg/4dc8560247663014

Wouldn't have mattered if hitty had one. He took his orders from the
same organization that roosevelt did and bush does today.  
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/cd58ee450b438b19

You can't even lie any good. No where in the country are cops issued
crown victorias.
: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780e
a958.0410112125.4b572994%40posting.google.com

i'm sure jeffrey dahmer also objects to big daddy govt telling him he
can't kill people anymore.
: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1665104637d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=o
ff&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0410311919.5f4893f4%40posting.google.com

I hate cell phone drivers but at least this gal had the sense to drive
slowly while yakking.
: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780e
a958.0411231910.47c6ceb7%40posting.google.com

http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/hornsey/515/Xeton2001IsAMoron.html

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( the following contains part of one of Judy's posts, which would not
otherwise
be available due to Judy's use of the X-No-Archive bit)
>>>Of course, they're anti-safety devices!!! Why would anyone think
>>>otherwise, loonball???. I wish you'd get off this board - you make us
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Got it? So many loons in school made fun of me!!!
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/36b69ad3f5e8013a?hl=en

( the following contains part of one of Judy's posts, which would not
otherwise
be available due to Judy's use of the X-No-Archive bit)
> That's the way it should be.  In fact even having a RD in your car
>should result in mandatory and permanent loss of DL. Why do you need a
>device whose only function is to help you commit a crime that murders
>thousands of americans a year.  URAPSYCHOPATH
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/56c432d3f6f9a6fe?dmode
=source&hl=en

Straw man????  If you saw some black guy on crack with a gun, you'd go
ballistic.  But alkies with guns is ok with you cause alcohol is YOUR
drug.  URA STUPID ILLOGICAL HYPOCRITE.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/c59a4f089df6ecfa?hl=en

We don't need safer cars and roads.   The incredible highway carnage
is entirely due to reckless drivers like you.  URAMURDERER.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/misc.legal/msg/3352db7c732fd7f1?hl=en

HUH???  The cops plant the gun on him and you still say he deserved 55
years.  URAPSYCHO
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/ac09b1777ac5
a5ce?hl=en

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El Pollo Loco (Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend) demonstrates it's
complete gullibility, stupidity, and state of delusion when it falls
for an April Fool's joke, hook, line, and sinker:

> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/008d032d86999983?hl=en&

Ragnar wrote:
> Gods, you're dumb.  Its a rather obvious April Fool's joke.  And you're
> the Fool.

This is no joke.

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Half drunk is a waste of money.
Nate Nagel - 24 Jan 2008 00:57 GMT
>>>>> They just did this in VA.  Public outrage was so bad that they are now
>>>>> repealing it.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> statement you made.  I cited a source to refute it.  Instead of
> acknowledging you may have mis-spoken, you come up with some idiotic reply.

You're new here (RAD) ain't you?

read up on SADDAM's past posts and then see if maybe you understand why
everyone treats it with such disdain.

nate

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 23 Jan 2008 04:17 GMT
> >>They just did this in VA.  Public outrage was so bad that they are now
> >>repealing it.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> http://www.roanoke.com/news/breaking/wb/148013

The penalties have not been repealed. The VA Senate has yet to agree
with what the House did.  As for the public hating the penalties,
that's just what the author of the article said and he is an obvious
auto industry shill.
Ron's Inspector's Inspector - 22 Jan 2008 20:08 GMT
> You're a liar.  They are not repealing it and there is no public
> outrage. Most people know criminal drivers are killers and want them
> punished severely.

Hey S&DDAM --

   Did it ever occur to you that people like you, extremists and jihadists
against those who don't follow your vision of highway purity, make people
WANT to throw down a pint of SoCo and drive to Cleveland?
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 23 Jan 2008 00:52 GMT
>> You're a liar.  They are not repealing it and there is no public
>> outrage. Most people know criminal drivers are killers and want them
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>against those who don't follow your vision of highway purity, make people
>WANT to throw down a pint of SoCo and drive to Cleveland?

Perhaps if SADDAM wasn't drinking eight bottles of Mad Dog 20/20 on a
daily basis, it might occur to it. :-)

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Alex - 11 Feb 2008 03:45 GMT
On Jan 22, 1:32 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > They just did this in VA.  Public outrage was so bad that they are now
> > repealing it.
>
> You're a liar.  They are not repealing it and there is no public
> outrage. Most people know criminal drivers are killers and want them
> punished severely.

If you can read, http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/printer/22867.html
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Nate Nagel - 11 Feb 2008 03:53 GMT
> On Jan 22, 1:32 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> <beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> ------------------------
> Alex

Not only that, but most people realize that underposted speed limits
plus 20-over (or 80 MPH) being automatically defined as "reckless" is a
crock of sh.t to begin with.  There's few people who *haven't* hit 75
MPH on any of our lovely 55 MPH Interstates.  And there's nothing
inherently dangerous about it.

nate

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Brent P - 22 Jan 2008 19:29 GMT
> On Jan 22, 11:23 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
><xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> They just did this in VA.  Public outrage was so bad that they are now
> repealing it.

Government has basically told the people to pound sand. They are now
however imposing those fees on bicyclists when a cop 'feels' the
bicyclist is 'in a hurry'.

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/21/2170.asp

http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=7606895
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 23 Jan 2008 00:57 GMT
>> On Jan 22, 11:23 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
>><xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
>http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=7606895

Seems like the jihadists would be doing all a favor if they approached
legislative assemblies instead of the "little" people who did nothing.

I thought our government was supposed to be "by the people for the
people?"

I'd bet George Washington would jack slap those retards if he were
alive today.

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Nate Nagel - 23 Jan 2008 01:05 GMT
>>>On Jan 22, 11:23 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
>>><xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I'd bet George Washington would jack slap those retards if he were
> alive today.

I wouldn't have any problem with the fines if it weren't so easy to get
a ticket for simply driving in a safe, reasonable manner.  Someone ought
to jack slap the idiots that drank the Claybrook kool-aid, and Joan C.
and Ralph N. for good measure.

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Studemania - 24 Jan 2008 01:34 GMT
> >>In article <f8e0284b-5206-4924-90e5-37a541fa4...@i3g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Mike Tantillo wrote:
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Hey, N8. Do you think that the traffic laws make more
sense in states the GOP writes them?
Studemania - 24 Jan 2008 01:27 GMT
> On Jan 22, 11:23 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
>
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> They just did this in VA.  Public outrage was so bad that they are now
> repealing it.

How about offering the choice of being locked-up nights & evenings to
those who would cause their family to suffer with paying cash? Do we
really need to add suffering innocents to the welfare lists?
Nate Nagel - 24 Jan 2008 01:32 GMT
>>On Jan 22, 11:23 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
>>
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> those who would cause their family to suffer with paying cash? Do we
> really need to add suffering innocents to the welfare lists?

From the beginning it was all about the revenue; locking people up for
speeding tickets isn't revenue positive.

nate

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Studemania - 24 Jan 2008 02:50 GMT
> >>On Jan 22, 11:23 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Yep! If you control budget P, you cause $1000 to come out of budget W
(or any other) to get 1/10 of it added to yours.

(Did I ever mention that I was once a Civil Servent?
(and not so civil at other times.) kh
P Smithe-RUthchilde - 24 Jan 2008 05:44 GMT
> >>On Jan 22, 11:23 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> >>
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>
> nate

yes. the whole damned thing is about revenue and control
to make revenue and these govrnmental pretenders will
keep it going until there is a revolution and its them in prison!
Thats the human way.
Ron's Inspector's Inspector - 22 Jan 2008 17:16 GMT
> Let's increase the fines for speeding and drunk driving and red light
> running  by a factor of 10 and use that money to fix our crumbling
> infrastructure. Why should law abiding drivers pay for that?. Make the
> SLOs
> and DUIs and RLRs pay. Criminal drivers are kid killers and have no rights
> anyway.

Yeah! And let's put them in the electric chair and fill potholes with their
crispy remains!
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 22 Jan 2008 17:17 GMT
On Jan 22, 11:23 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Let's increase the fines for speeding and drunk driving and red light
> running  by a factor of 10 and use that money to fix our crumbling
> infrastructure.

First off, the numbers don't add up.  The infrastructure needs are far
higher than any fines could bring in.

Secondly, fines for such offenses are already extremely high.
Insurance penalties make them even higher.  The result now is that
motorists have the motiviation to get a lawyer go to court, go to
appellate court to get charges reduced or thrown out.  That becomes
counter productive.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 22 Jan 2008 18:35 GMT
On Jan 22, 10:17 am, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:

> Secondly, fines for such offenses are already extremely high.
> Insurance penalties make them even higher.

Like hell.  $150 for doing 70 in a 50 is typical.
Ron's Inspector's Inspector - 22 Jan 2008 20:09 GMT
> On Jan 22, 10:17 am, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
>> Secondly, fines for such offenses are already extremely high.
>> Insurance penalties make them even higher.
>
> Like hell.

"What is, spending an hour in a car with S&DDAM?"

"Correct.  Choose again."
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 23 Jan 2008 00:50 GMT
>> On Jan 22, 10:17 am, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>
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>
>"Correct.  Choose again."

Homos who like to receive blow jobs while they're driving would
probably find an hour in a car with SADDAM to be heaven.

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Studemania - 24 Jan 2008 01:46 GMT
On Jan 22, 10:35 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Jan 22, 10:17 am, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
> > Secondly, fines for such offenses are already extremely high.
> > Insurance penalties make them even higher.
>
> Like hell.  $150 for doing 70 in a 50 is typical.

Under some conditions, that is not a dangerous speed.
Illegal, yes. Gangerous, maybe not.

In a perfect world, there would be no speed laws - just dangerous
driving laws.
but...
Unobservant people need pointless numbers to go by.
davidjcorcoran@gmail.com - 22 Jan 2008 19:24 GMT
On Jan 22, 9:23 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Let's increase the fines for speeding and drunk driving and red light
> running  by a factor of 10 and use that money to fix our crumbling
> infrastructure. Why should law abiding drivers pay for that?. Make the SLOs
> and DUIs and RLRs pay. Criminal drivers are kid killers and have no rights
> anyway.

Speeders are not necessarily murderers. I agree with whatever
penalties need to be instated for drunk drivers, but speeding just
isn't that big of a deal except in school zones
necromancer - 23 Jan 2008 16:33 GMT
davidjcorcoran@gmail.com:
> On Jan 22, 9:23 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
> Speeders are not necessarily murderers.

Agreed.

> I agree with whatever penalties need to be instated for drunk
> drivers,

How about the Death Penalty?

> but speeding just isn't that big of a deal except in school zones

And we all know about the Originator of this thread and speeding in
schoolzones and killing children:

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Loco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend (a.k.a. SADDAM) admits to being
a deadly speeder, psychopath and criminal coddler:

">  Have you ever driven a car faster than the legal speed limit?

Yes, but never deliberately.  In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
years ago for doing 41 in a 25.  I just about kicked the cops teeth in
cause i was sure he was lying.  No way the SL on this wide open
stretch could be 25, i thought."

Pride of America (c.k.a. Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE/Speeders And Drunk Drivers
Are Murderers (SADDAM)), 10/3/2002
Message-ID: <3c1753f7.0210030916.7b6f5dff@posting.google.com>
http://tinyurl.com/5u4wg

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See the following: http://tinyurl.com/ahphj

Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein) - 23 Jan 2008 00:48 GMT
>Let's increase the fines for speeding and drunk driving and red light
>running  by a factor of 10 and use that money to fix our crumbling
>infrastructure. Why should law abiding drivers pay for that?. Make the SLOs
>and DUIs and RLRs pay. Criminal drivers are kid killers and have no rights
>anyway.

Better yet, let's demand financial accountability of our
representatives; there's already far too much fiscal waste going on.

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eunoche - 23 Jan 2008 07:02 GMT
and behead their wives and children!

f.ck em good Bloody Mary.

> Let's increase the fines for speeding and drunk driving and red light
> running  by a factor of 10 and use that money to fix our crumbling
> infrastructure. Why should law abiding drivers pay for that?. Make the SLOs
> and DUIs and RLRs pay. Criminal drivers are kid killers and have no rights
> anyway.
necromancer - 23 Jan 2008 16:30 GMT
SFB spewed:

<< ECP removed >>

> Let's increase the fines for speeding and drunk driving and red light
> running  by a factor of 10 and use that money to fix our crumbling
> infrastructure. Why should law abiding drivers pay for that?. Make the SLOs
> and DUIs and RLRs pay.

Why should law abiding drivers have to endure worn out highways that
have been beaten down by the likes of useless human debris like you?

> Criminal drivers are kid killers and have no rights
> anyway.

We all know that you are both a criminal driver and a kid killer. The
sooner that someone puts a bullet through your head the better.

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Loco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend (a.k.a. SADDAM) admits to being
a deadly speeder, psychopath and criminal coddler:

">  Have you ever driven a car faster than the legal speed limit?

Yes, but never deliberately.  In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
years ago for doing 41 in a 25.  I just about kicked the cops teeth in
cause i was sure he was lying.  No way the SL on this wide open
stretch could be 25, i thought."

Pride of America (c.k.a. Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE/Speeders And Drunk Drivers
Are Murderers (SADDAM)), 10/3/2002
Message-ID: <3c1753f7.0210030916.7b6f5dff@posting.google.com>
http://tinyurl.com/5u4wg

Proof that POA is LBMHB/lbVH/SADDAM:
See the following: http://tinyurl.com/ahphj

Jean Smith - 24 Jan 2008 02:05 GMT
> Let's increase the fines for speeding and drunk driving and red light
> running  by a factor of 10 and use that money to fix our crumbling
> infrastructure. Why should law abiding drivers pay for that?. Make the SLOs
> and DUIs and RLRs pay. Criminal drivers are kid killers and have no rights
> anyway.

Do the states have plans ready to execute fast enough to qualify for the
economic salvation program?

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P Smithe-RUthchilde - 24 Jan 2008 05:41 GMT
I have supported MADD for years, publically, but you
lady are a wacko and in a catagory of your  own. Get
counseling - fast!

> Let's increase the fines for speeding and drunk driving and red light
> running  by a factor of 10 and use that money to fix our crumbling
> infrastructure. Why should law abiding drivers pay for that?. Make the SLOs
> and DUIs and RLRs pay. Criminal drivers are kid killers and have no rights
> anyway.
Brent P - 24 Jan 2008 13:54 GMT
> I have supported MADD for years, publically, but you
> lady are a wacko and in a catagory of your  own. Get
> counseling - fast!

MADD is so neo-prohibitionist now, not even MADD's founder supports
MADD's efforts these days. (I've posted the quotes multiple times before,
I consider it standard knowledge now for r.a.d. Everyone can google it
themselves now if they have doubts.)
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 24 Jan 2008 16:40 GMT
> I have supported MADD for years, publically, but you
> lady are a wacko and in a catagory of your  own. Get
> counseling - fast!

HAHA. The board notes that you have evaded the issue and instead
responded with childish namecalling.  No wonder you don't have any
friends.   HAHA
necromancer - 24 Jan 2008 16:57 GMT
SFB spewed:

> > I have supported MADD for years, publically, but you
> > lady are a wacko and in a catagory of your  own. Get
> > counseling - fast!
>
> HAHA. The board notes

This isn't a, "board," you moron.

> that you have evaded the issue

And those of us in these newsgroups (or atleast r.a.d) have noted
nothing of which you spew.

> and instead responded with childish namecalling.

Again, the r.a.d Cabal (TINC) have noted no such thing.

>  No wonder you don't have any friends.

The Cabal (TINC) says that you really should seek help for your problem
of talking to yourself.

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Alex - 11 Feb 2008 03:43 GMT
On Jan 22, 11:23 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Let's increase the fines for speeding and drunk driving and red light
> running  by a factor of 10 and use that money to fix our crumbling
> infrastructure. Why should law abiding drivers pay for that?. Make the SLOs
> and DUIs and RLRs pay. Criminal drivers are kid killers and have no rights
> anyway.

How about fixing and maintaining the roads using the funds raised by
taxing
gasoline and collecting tolls?  If they did, we would have the best
roads in the
world.  Instead we are stuck with crumbling roads that don't get fixed
until they
are in horrible condition.  Then they say we need to fix the roads at
any cost.
Instead of then using the money collected to fix the roads, they issue
bonds.
That way our taxes are used to pay the interest on the bonds.  So that
much
less of our taxes get used to fix the road.  This cycle can only go on
for so long.
Of course the tax payer gets screwed.
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