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Scott in SoCal - 02 Mar 2008 00:40 GMT
When this guy he sees someone with a radar detector nearby, he uses a
radar gun that he carries with him in his car to f.ck with their
heads. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-nMK66ukMQ
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websurf1@cox.net - 03 Mar 2008 01:53 GMT
> When this guy he sees someone with a radar detector nearby, he uses a
> radar gun that he carries with him in his car to f.ck with their
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
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I have long figured that the cops should just put a bunch of random
transmitters along routes that have frequent speeders.  Keep 'em
guessing.

BTW, for all those with whom I've been discussing speed cameras, etc.:
AZ's governor Napolitano wants to add lots more speed cameras.
However, she blatantly says that it is for revenue purposes (the
state's coming up a bit short this year.).  The cameras in this state
have had numerous problems, including a whole lot of the tickets
dumped when it was demonstrated that the cameras were wrong for over a
month.  There was also the issue of justices of the peace signing
documents that they said they witnessed something that they could not
have witnessed.

I don't support this crap  I don't support abusing law enforcement for
revenue purposes.

I DO support PROPER use of ACCURATE detection systems, WITHOUT private
companies getting paid based on tickets.  What Arizona has doesn't
meet any of these criteria.

The cameras on 101 have been successful in slowing the high speediots,
and wrecks seem to be much reduced (or not reported--can't tell
which).  So the things work, even if improperly applied.
Matthew T. Russotto - 03 Mar 2008 04:33 GMT
>I have long figured that the cops should just put a bunch of random
>transmitters along routes that have frequent speeders.  Keep 'em
>guessing.

Doing so is illegal, but that never stopped the cops before.  Laws are
for the little people, right?
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websurf1@cox.net - 04 Mar 2008 04:01 GMT
On Mar 2, 9:33 pm, russo...@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew T. Russotto)
wrote:
> In article <fe847943-285a-4e7b-8121-699c0d2b9...@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
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> Doing so is illegal, but that never stopped the cops before.  Laws are
> for the little people, right?

Hm.  Guess that makes me one of the little people.

Actually, I didn't know that random radar detectors would be illegal,
and I don't know why that would be.  Possibly some FCC reason?  If
it's illegal, well, then they shouldn't do it.  Even though it's still
a good idea--slow people down without a chance of a ticket.  Sort of
the reverse of the speed camera (ticket without slowing them down).
gpsman - 04 Mar 2008 14:21 GMT
On Mar 3, 11:01 pm, websu...@cox.net wrote:

> Actually, I didn't know that random radar detectors <transmitters> would be illegal,
> and I don't know why that would be.  Possibly some FCC reason?

Used to fall under a blanket FCC prohibition of "unattended
transmitters", but with the proliferation of speed cameras today, I
don't know.
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- gpsman
N8N - 04 Mar 2008 14:41 GMT
> On Mar 3, 11:01 pm, websu...@cox.net wrote:
>
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> transmitters", but with the proliferation of speed cameras today, I
> don't know.

I know that any electronic portable info sign along the PA turnpike
used to have an X-band radar source in it, so I'm not certain how that
squares with FCC regs.  maybe there is an exception or the FCC just
turns a blind eye?  I'm not sure if they are still using them, I tend
to avoid the turnpike and also company regs. prohibit the use of a
radar detector in a company vehicle and I'm not about to lose my job
over a RD

nate
Scott in SoCal - 04 Mar 2008 15:39 GMT
>I know that any electronic portable info sign along the PA turnpike
>used to have an X-band radar source in it

Really? Whatever for?
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necromancer - 04 Mar 2008 17:40 GMT
>> On Mar 3, 11:01 pm, websu...@cox.net wrote:
>>
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>squares with FCC regs.  maybe there is an exception or the FCC just
>turns a blind eye?

I'd say turns a blind eye. They are far too busy persecuting tv
networks for fleeting glimpses of a woman's breast or an inadvertently
uttered f-bomb during a football game to be bothered.

> I'm not sure if they are still using them, I tend
>to avoid the turnpike and also company regs. prohibit the use of a
>radar detector in a company vehicle and I'm not about to lose my job
>over a RD

RD are useless, IMO. I just stay within the limit (usually +/- 5MPH)
and the cops leave me alone.  

Loco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend admits to being a red light runner:

"The cameras don't  catch everyone.  I have never been nailed for this."

Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend, 5/9/06
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/ee4wq
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Studemania - 05 Mar 2008 04:32 GMT
On Mar 4, 9:40 am, necromancer

> >> On Mar 3, 11:01 pm, websu...@cox.net wrote:
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Being an engineer, having the VCR recording at the time, and being
sort of a pest, I will hereby state that the bared breast took up a
full 6% of the TV screen
MLOM - 05 Mar 2008 04:44 GMT
> On Mar 4, 9:40 am, necromancer
>
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Zoom features work wonders, don't they? ;)
necromancer - 05 Mar 2008 07:08 GMT
>Being an engineer, having the VCR recording at the time, and being
>sort of a pest, I will hereby state that the bared breast took up a
>full 6% of the TV screen

VCR? How quaint. I remember having one of those in high school... ;)

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"The Federal Reserve is not a branch of the govt; it's a group of
private banks and borrowing from them means the taxpayers have to pay
the interest to the banks.  This has been going on for nearly a hundred
years and it's just stealing from the public and giving to the bankers.
JUST PRINT THE DAMN MONEY. "

 --Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend (a.k.a S&DDAM or SFB)
   2/20/2005
   ref: http://tinyurl.com/243bw5
   Message ID: 1108881725.557954.264830@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
Studemania - 06 Mar 2008 04:25 GMT
On Mar 4, 11:08 pm, necromancer
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:32:59 -0800 (PST), Studemania
>
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>
> VCR? How quaint. I remember having one of those in high school... ;)

I made it to my late sixties. What are the odds that you will?
Scott in SoCal - 05 Mar 2008 14:41 GMT
>Being an engineer, having the VCR recording at the time

Luddite. VCRs are passe' - DVRs are what's hip now.
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Studemania - 06 Mar 2008 04:32 GMT
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:32:59 -0800 (PST), Studemania
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> "Dave's not here, man!"
>   - Tommy Chong

I had a Betamax in the LR and one of the newer ones in the den, with
caables under the floor. T antenna or mast, with rotot, amplifer, and
VCR as added booster and cleaner let be watch Sacto as well as
MOnterey in Silicon Valley. None of thi$ cable $tuff for me. 26 free
channels, four of them PBS.

BTW, Beta had a better picture and I could look through the top of my
VCR to see how much tape was left. no needd to push buttons.   Smaller
package, too.
Scott in SoCal - 06 Mar 2008 14:00 GMT
>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:32:59 -0800 (PST), Studemania
>>
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>MOnterey in Silicon Valley. None of thi$ cable $tuff for me. 26 free
>channels, four of them PBS.

You're gonna be in a world of hurt a year from now. :)

>BTW, Beta had a better picture and I could look through the top of my
>VCR to see how much tape was left. no needd to push buttons.   Smaller
>package, too.

I still have my SL-HF500 SuperBeta HiFi. Every once in a while I use
it to transfer one of my old Beta tapes to DVD. :)
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Studemania - 08 Mar 2008 06:28 GMT
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 20:32:12 -0800 (PST), Studemania
>
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> "Dave's not here, man!"
>   - Tommy Chong

Due to a couple international moves, I dumped (or transfered) Beta and
got a "universal" VCR. I can play any standard cartridge except for
those from France.
Garth Almgren - 08 Mar 2008 06:56 GMT
>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 20:32:12 -0800 (PST), Studemania
>>
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> got a "universal" VCR. I can play any standard cartridge except for
> those from France.

I still have a VCR, and it's even hooked up. Hasn't seen much use since
I got a DVD player and later my HD DVR, but I like being able to play
media that crosses my path. That's also why I still have a record player
and a laserdisc player (the Value Village near me had an unusually
decent selection of classic vinyl and laserdiscs).

10+ year old VHS tapes that looked fine on my parent's 19" CRT look like
crap on my HD LCD. Whaddya know. ;)

Never had a BetaMax machine, though my neighbor did as recently as 1998...

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Scott in SoCal - 08 Mar 2008 13:31 GMT
>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 20:32:12 -0800 (PST), Studemania
>>
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>got a "universal" VCR. I can play any standard cartridge except for
>those from France.

Get ready for another upgrade. They're turning off the analog TV
transmitters for good early next year; it will be ATSC digital from
then on. All your antennas, VCRs, and under-floor cabling will no
longer work to receive over-the-air programming.

I hope you have a lot of good shows taped, because those tapes are all
you'll be able to watch starting next February. :)
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Studemania - 10 Mar 2008 08:25 GMT
> On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 22:28:41 -0800 (PST), Studemania
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm on cable, so I'm covered.
(Or else the newspaper and cable company is telling a porky.)
Scott in SoCal - 10 Mar 2008 14:38 GMT
>> <midl...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 20:32:12 -0800 (PST), Studemania
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>I'm on cable, so I'm covered.
>(Or else the newspaper and cable company is telling a porky.)

I guess the attributions have become muddled - who was it that said
this:

> >> >I had a Betamax in the LR and one of the newer ones in the den, with
> >> >caables under the floor. T antenna or mast, with rotot, amplifer, and
> >> >VCR as added booster and cleaner let be watch Sacto as well as
> >> >MOnterey in Silicon Valley. None of thi$ cable $tuff for me. 26 free
> >> >channels, four of them PBS.

This guy, who is getting 26 OTA channels and has no cable, is the one
who's going to be hurting come next year.
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Matthew T. Russotto - 12 Mar 2008 22:36 GMT
>Get ready for another upgrade. They're turning off the analog TV
>transmitters for good early next year; it will be ATSC digital from
>then on. All your antennas, VCRs, and under-floor cabling will no
>longer work to receive over-the-air programming.

VCRs, yes, not without a converter box.  Antennas and under-floor cabing, no.
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Scott in SoCal - 13 Mar 2008 02:24 GMT
>>Get ready for another upgrade. They're turning off the analog TV
>>transmitters for good early next year; it will be ATSC digital from
>>then on. All your antennas, VCRs, and under-floor cabling will no
>>longer work to receive over-the-air programming.
>
>VCRs, yes, not without a converter box.  Antennas and under-floor cabing, no.

Depends on the antennas. For example, if all he has is a VHF antenna
(because all of his NTSC channels were on VHF) and the ATSC channels
are all on UHF, he needs a new one.
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Matthew T. Russotto - 13 Mar 2008 05:03 GMT
>>>Get ready for another upgrade. They're turning off the analog TV
>>>transmitters for good early next year; it will be ATSC digital from
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>(because all of his NTSC channels were on VHF) and the ATSC channels
>are all on UHF, he needs a new one.

If he got 24 stations, he's already got a UHF antenna.
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Scott in SoCal - 13 Mar 2008 14:34 GMT
>>>>Get ready for another upgrade. They're turning off the analog TV
>>>>transmitters for good early next year; it will be ATSC digital from
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>If he got 24 stations, he's already got a UHF antenna.

Brilliant deduction, Watson!
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Brent P - 04 Mar 2008 23:17 GMT
>> On Mar 3, 11:01 pm, websu...@cox.net wrote:
>>
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> radar detector in a company vehicle and I'm not about to lose my job
> over a RD

Once upon a time alerts for construction, weather, etc etc were supposed
to be broadcast with radar transmitters and picked up by radar
detectors.... maybe it was one of the few places it was actually used.
Scott in SoCal - 09 Mar 2008 16:33 GMT
>>I have long figured that the cops should just put a bunch of random
>>transmitters along routes that have frequent speeders.  Keep 'em
>>guessing.
>
>Doing so is illegal, but that never stopped the cops before.  Laws are
>for the little people, right?

I think they've found a loophole. I have heard that some freeways in
SoCal (e.g. the 101 up in Ventura County, IIRC) use automated radar
speed measuring devices to generate the traffic data used for maps
like http://www.sigalert.com/map.asp?Region=Ventura

Of course, since these devices use radar, they have the handy side
effect of causing everyone with a detector to slow down. I'm sure
that's why they chose that method instead of the usual pavement loop
sensors that CalTrans uses elsewhere. :)
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Ashton Crusher - 09 Mar 2008 06:18 GMT
>> When this guy he sees someone with a radar detector nearby, he uses a
>> radar gun that he carries with him in his car to f.ck with their
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>and wrecks seem to be much reduced (or not reported--can't tell
>which).  So the things work, even if improperly applied.

The wrecks were not reduced, they just switched from one kind (run off
road) to another kind (rear enders).  The report that was written was
mostly bullshit.
Brent P - 03 Mar 2008 05:20 GMT
> When this guy he sees someone with a radar detector nearby, he uses a
> radar gun that he carries with him in his car to f.ck with their
> heads. :)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-nMK66ukMQ

He's behind the same trailered boat the whole time getting passing
traffic to slow down and LLB....

Hmm... guess your dislike of radar detector users is pretty high on the
list ;)
Scott in SoCal - 03 Mar 2008 14:06 GMT
>> When this guy he sees someone with a radar detector nearby, he uses a
>> radar gun that he carries with him in his car to f.ck with their
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Hmm... guess your dislike of radar detector users is pretty high on the
>list ;)

You misrepresent my position. I have nothing against radar detector
users. I merely point out the obvious Placebo Effect that comes into
play.

It's an undisputable fact that a radar detector is useless in many
situations - instant-on radar (if you're the target), laser (pretty
much all the time, but especially if you're the target), pacing by the
police vehicle, and VASCAR to name a few.

It is also a fact that there are all sorts of sources of microwave and
laser energy that have nothing whatsoever to do with speed
enforcement, yet will trigger a RD. Automatic door openers at grocery
stores, burglar alarms, certain types of taillights, laser-guided
cruise control, bored jackasses with a baseball radar gun they bought
off of eBay, and even other radar detectors are all sources of false
alerts.

It's only human nature to want to justify your $450 purchase, so
people unconsciously credit their RD for a "save" even when it didn't.
How much do you wanna bet that some of the LLBs in that video think
that their RD saved them from a ticket?
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video@u.tube - 09 Mar 2008 06:28 GMT
>When this guy he sees someone with a radar detector nearby, he uses a
>radar gun that he carries with him in his car to f.ck with their
>heads. :)
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-nMK66ukMQ

Or this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2UxbVLgbQM
 
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