scudetto_001@yahoo.com wrote in news:3f6aab26-beda-44ac-8dc4-
3e5de960833a@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
> "The rigorous studies clearly show red-light cameras don't work," said
> lead author Barbara Langland-Orban, professor and chair of health
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>
> http://www.physorg.com/news124467295.html
. Red light runners kill and maim children every day and nuts like you say
let it continue. I've never had any problems stopping when the light hits
yellow. The problem is criminals like you who try to beat the light.
Keep the cameras and combine them with much more severe penalties. I don't
believe in coddling criminals.
Garth Almgren - 12 Mar 2008 20:34 GMT
Around Mar 12, 10:27 am, Aunt Judy (AKA Pride of Diarrhea, AKA
"Saddam") <http://tinyurl.com/65nqz> wrote: wrote:
> scudetto_...@yahoo.com wrote in news:3f6aab26-beda-44ac-8dc4-
> 3e5de9608...@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
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> . Red light runners kill and maim children every day and nuts like you say
> let it continue.
Nobody said "let it continue".
> I've never had any problems stopping when the light hits
> yellow.
A) I'm surprised, given your bad brakes and unsafe tires...
B) In most cases, you shouldn't *have* to stop for a yellow light.
> The problem is criminals like you who try to beat the light.
The problem is people who DWO (drive while oblivious) and/or bad light
timing, problems which a camera and draconian fines can do nothing to
fix.
--
~/Garth
"I am patient with stupidity
but not with those who are proud of it." - Edith Sitwell
(Ventis secundis, tene cursum.)
necromancer - 12 Mar 2008 21:30 GMT
>The problem is people who DWO (drive while oblivious) and/or bad light
>timing, problems which a camera and draconian fines can do nothing to
>fix.
Actually, if you ask me, the bad light timings are used to facilitate
the cameras and fines in raking in as much revenue as possible for the
authorityes that use the cameras and the private companies that run
the cameras.
--
S&DDAM admits to putting others in danger with its beater
(gramatical errors left as is):
"Foot pumps are a joke. I had one once and since the piston only moves like
2 inches it took 50 pumps to raise the pressure by one psi. Go with the
hand pumps where the piston moves around 15 inches. One of my tires has
exposed cords and i have to pump it up every week. "
--Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS, 3/6/08
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gpsman - 12 Mar 2008 22:37 GMT
On Mar 12, 4:30 pm, necromancer
> Actually, if you ask me, the bad light timings are used to facilitate
> the cameras and fines in raking in as much revenue as possible for the
> authorityes that use the cameras and the private companies that run
> the cameras.
Nothing gets by you, Shakespeare.
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- gpsman
Nate Nagel - 12 Mar 2008 22:40 GMT
> On Mar 12, 4:30 pm, necromancer
>
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>
> Nothing gets by you, Shakespeare.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here; I didn't see anything
factually questionable in his post.
nate

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Thanatos - 13 Mar 2008 00:08 GMT
> scudetto_001@yahoo.com wrote in news:3f6aab26-beda-44ac-8dc4-
> 3e5de960833a@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
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> Red light runners kill and maim children every day and nuts
> like you say let it continue.
No, he said that cameras make the problem worse. Weren't you paying
attention?
> Keep the cameras and combine them with much more severe penalties.
> I don't believe in coddling criminals.
The irony of your position is that by using the cameras, states have to
downgrade the offense of running a light from a criminal one (where the
state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the actual PERSON was
offender) to a non-criminal administrative violation (where the state
only has to show that the registered owner's vehicle ran the light).
scudetto_001@yahoo.com - 16 Mar 2008 18:00 GMT
On Mar 12, 1:27 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> scudetto_...@yahoo.com wrote in news:3f6aab26-beda-44ac-8dc4-
> 3e5de9608...@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
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> Keep the cameras and combine them with much more severe penalties. I don't
> believe in coddling criminals.
Next time read the article, Adolph. What part of "MORE DANGEROUS" did
you not understand?
What a miserable life you must have. So angry...
Brent P - 16 Mar 2008 19:54 GMT
>. Red light runners kill and maim children every day and nuts like you say
>let it continue. I've never had any problems stopping when the light hits
>yellow. The problem is criminals like you who try to beat the light.
Maybe this ( http://timesnews.net/AllSites/gnpics/9724512wreck.jpg )
will be your car in the near future?
Story here:
http://timesnews.net/article.php?id=9005499
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/22/2268.asp
Garth Almgren - 17 Mar 2008 17:10 GMT
>> . Red light runners kill and maim children every day and nuts like you say
>> let it continue. I've never had any problems stopping when the light hits
>> yellow. The problem is criminals like you who try to beat the light.
>
> Maybe this ( http://timesnews.net/AllSites/gnpics/9724512wreck.jpg )
> will be your car in the near future?
Whaddya mean near future?
Even given the list of things that are so dangerously wrong with Judy's
beater, I get the feeling that is only the tip of the iceberg. I
wouldn't be surprised if that is what Judy's car looks like *right now*.

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