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THE LOUDER YOU HONK, THE SLOWER I DRIVE

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 15 Mar 2008 16:55 GMT
More proof of just how stupid these deadly and criminal speeders are. You
try to intimidate other drivers and they'll do just the opposite of what
you want.
Nate Nagel - 15 Mar 2008 18:56 GMT
> More proof of just how stupid these deadly and criminal speeders are. You
> try to intimidate other drivers and they'll do just the opposite of what
> you want.

so if I honk at you a lot, you'll stop driving?  Cool.

nate

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necromancer - 15 Mar 2008 19:53 GMT
>> More proof of just how stupid these deadly and criminal speeders are. You
>> try to intimidate other drivers and they'll do just the opposite of what
>> you want.
>
>so if I honk at you a lot, you'll stop driving?  Cool.

Maybe someday there can be a road meet in Littleton. All we have to do
is find the most decrepit POS on the road and keep honking at it
untill either it stops or the driver's head explodes....

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 15 Mar 2008 20:57 GMT
> > More proof of just how stupid these deadly and criminal speeders are. You
> > try to intimidate other drivers and they'll do just the opposite of what
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>
> nate

Try it big-talk, and you'll be pissing blood for the next 6 months.
Nate Nagel - 15 Mar 2008 21:29 GMT
>>>More proof of just how stupid these deadly and criminal speeders are. You
>>>try to intimidate other drivers and they'll do just the opposite of what
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Try it big-talk, and you'll be pissing blood for the next 6 months.

BAHAHAHAHAHA!  Everyone's a big man on Usenet.  (or behind the wheel,
apparently.)  Too bad you just can't act right, but at least you're amusing.

nate

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necromancer - 15 Mar 2008 22:51 GMT
SFB the roadway terrorist spewed:

>> > More proof of just how stupid these deadly and criminal speeders are. You
>> > try to intimidate other drivers and they'll do just the opposite of what
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Try it big-talk, and you'll be pissing blood for the next 6 months.

Ooooooo..... Terroristic threat. Someone alert the DHS immediately.

Killed anyone with those cords yet, usama?
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(gramatical errors left as is):

"Foot pumps are a joke. I had one once and since the piston only moves like
2 inches it took 50 pumps to raise the pressure by one psi.  Go with the
hand pumps where the piston moves  around 15 inches. One of my tires has
exposed cords and i have to pump it up every week. "

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Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 21 Mar 2008 20:11 GMT
> > > More proof of just how stupid these deadly and criminal speeders are. You
> > > try to intimidate other drivers and they'll do just the opposite of what
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>
> Try it big-talk, and you'll be pissing blood for the next 6 months.

As I suspected. Road rage. You view everything as a challenge. Perhaps
its time to turn in your license and pick up a bus pass before you kill
someone, or pick a  fight with some nut with a gun and get killed
yourself.

Would it ever occur to you that someone behind you honking at you might
be doing so because your wheel was falling off or you left your
briefcase on top of your car?

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necromancer - 15 Mar 2008 19:55 GMT
SFB spewed:

>More proof of just how stupid these deadly and criminal speeders are. You
>try to intimidate other drivers and they'll do just the opposite of what
>you want.

Cool. I'll just rig my vehicle with a few of those horns they use on
trains. By the time I'm done with you, you will be backing up into a
brick wall at 150MPH. BWWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

--
"Years ago i had a vehicle in which i rigged up a switch so the horn
would  stay on continuously.  I used it when backing up or when
driving thru a congested area.  Worked  real well though it prolly
wouldn't if everybody had one."
   --Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS, a.k.a SADDAM, LBMHB, lb-VH..
     12/6/2006, 0141hrs

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John A. Weeks III - 15 Mar 2008 21:30 GMT
> More proof of just how stupid these deadly and criminal speeders are. You
> try to intimidate other drivers and they'll do just the opposite of what
> you want.

Here is the deal.  Honking is a signal of some emergency situation
that the honker has observed.  If someone honks at me, and I am
not aware of what the emergency is, the only logical course of
action is to slow down.  After all, once I figure out what the
emergency is, I might have to stop or take evasive action, so
it is always prudent to slow down to prepare when some other
driver is kind enough to alert you to an emergency.

-john-

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Arif Khokar - 15 Mar 2008 23:19 GMT
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> Here is the deal.  Honking is a signal of some emergency situation
> that the honker has observed.  If someone honks at me, and I am
> not aware of what the emergency is, the only logical course of
> action is to slow down.

So if you pull out in front of someone and they honk at you, the logical
course of action in your opinion is to slow down in front of them?
Jason Pawloski - 15 Mar 2008 23:28 GMT
> [changed group distribution]
>
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> So if you pull out in front of someone and they honk at you, the logical
> course of action in your opinion is to slow down in front of them?

This is one of those situations where the problem will resolve itself.
We just have to wait for someone with a gun to come across Mr. Weeks
and then they'll be one less idiot on the road.

If he thinks intentionally irritating people by driving irresponsibly
or inappropriately, he is in for quite a surprise, I think.
John A. Weeks III - 15 Mar 2008 23:36 GMT
> [changed group distribution]
>
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> So if you pull out in front of someone and they honk at you, the logical
> course of action in your opinion is to slow down in front of them?

If you are not aware of what the emergency is, speeding up and
crashing into it would be stupid.  So yes, slowing down is the
proper course of action when someone honks at you.  In the
scenario above, perhaps you can stop before you block the
lane when pulling out in front of someone.  And if it is a
semi coming, I'd much rather have only the nose of my car
smashed than getting broadsided in the driver door by a
huge truck.

-john-

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Arif Khokar - 15 Mar 2008 23:45 GMT
>>> Here is the deal.  Honking is a signal of some emergency situation
>>> that the honker has observed.  If someone honks at me, and I am
>>> not aware of what the emergency is, the only logical course of
>>> action is to slow down.

>> So if you pull out in front of someone and they honk at you, the logical
>> course of action in your opinion is to slow down in front of them?

> If you are not aware of what the emergency is, speeding up and
> crashing into it would be stupid.  So yes, slowing down is the
> proper course of action when someone honks at you.

I think you need to be more aware of your surroundings when you drive.
If you hear someone honk, you can usually tell which direction it's
coming from.  If it's coming from behind and you just pulled out onto a
road, then stopping or slowing down is the worst thing you can do.  If
you're taking a left turn and hear someone honking from your left, I'd
hate to see what happens if you stop right before you're broadsided.

> In the scenario above, perhaps you can stop before you block
> the lane when pulling out in front of someone.

Or your could end up stopping while taking a left turn making it very
difficult for through traffic to avoid hitting the side of your car.  If
you keep going, then they can aim for your previous location, making it
easier to avoid hitting you.

It depends on the situation and where the sound is coming from.
Stopping or slowing down is not always the best course of action.  If
you're aware of your surroundings when driving, not only will you avoid
such situations in the first place, but even if you don't, you can
engage in the appropriate action(s).
John A. Weeks III - 16 Mar 2008 00:54 GMT
> > If you are not aware of what the emergency is, speeding up and
> > crashing into it would be stupid.  So yes, slowing down is the
> > proper course of action when someone honks at you.
>
> I think you need to be more aware of your surroundings when you drive.

Yes, that is the ideal.  But the fact is that everyone makes mistakes
from time to time, and everyone has something happen around them in
traffic from time to time that they cannot quite figure out in real
time.  Saying that someone shouldn't make a mistake is unrealistic
when dealing with humans.  The trick is that when something does
happen where someone beeps there horn due to you not being aware
or having made a mistake, make sure that you always have an out
and always give the other person an out so you can avoid a crash.
Slowing down makes that all that much easier since it gives you
more time and makes any sudden maneuvers all that much easier.
This is just basic common sense.

-john-

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Paul D. DeRocco - 16 Mar 2008 05:40 GMT
> "John A. Weeks III" <john@johnweeks.com> wrote
>
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> more time and makes any sudden maneuvers all that much easier.
> This is just basic common sense.

I'm not sure I've ever honked at someone in a situation where their
appropriate response would be to slow down. It's often because they're going
waaaaay too slow already, and not using available turnouts, or because they
did something dangerous like cut me off. In both cases, speeding up would be
more appropriate.

Furthermore, I think when people get honked at, they almost always know
exactly why it's happening--they know if they're going 15mph under the speed
limit with cars behind them, or if they just turned out of a side street
without looking carefully. If they routinely respond by hitting the brakes,
they're copping an attitude, and deserve worse than being honked at.

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Studemania - 16 Mar 2008 06:43 GMT
> > "John A. Weeks III" <j...@johnweeks.com> wrote
>
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> Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
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Has anyone defined what type of honk we are talking about?

A gentle tap when the cis drifting backwards toward you because the
driver is looking on the backseat for his preyzels another.  Opening a
drivers door while looking forward and not back deserves something
still stronger and so on.

Hey Saddan, when you refer to speeders, are you refering to someone a
legal expert might call a speed or to someone a safety professional
might can a speeder. Seldom is a 'de jure' speeder a 'defacto'
speeder, but a "defacto speeder" is almost a "de jure" speeder, as are
some very safe drivers.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 16 Mar 2008 17:44 GMT
> Here is the deal.  Honking is a signal of some emergency situation
> that the honker has observed.

Like hell it's about emergencies.  I honk my horn if i see another
driver doing something illegal or dangerous.  That's why you should
never honk at slow drivers since they make the roads safer.
XXX - 16 Mar 2008 18:38 GMT
> > Here is the deal.  Honking is a signal of some emergency situation
> > that the honker has observed.
>
> Like hell it's about emergencies.  I honk my horn if i see another
> driver doing something illegal or dangerous.  That's why you should
> never honk at slow drivers since they make the roads safer.

You have never driven through a mountainous state, then.  If I am driving
the speed limit and take a sharp switchback to find some JACKASS going 20
miles under the speed limit they ARE NOT making the raods safer!
John A. Weeks III - 16 Mar 2008 19:45 GMT
> > > Here is the deal.  Honking is a signal of some emergency situation
> > > that the honker has observed.
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> the speed limit and take a sharp switchback to find some JACKASS going 20
> miles under the speed limit they ARE NOT making the raods safer!

Driving faster than the distance that you can see is about as
dangerous as it gets.  This is called overdriving, such as when
at night you drive faster than the distance that your headlights
will illuminate.  And if there are tight swtichback curves, then
people should slow down a be going 20 MPH less than the speed
limit.  That is simple common sense to slow down for tight curves.

-john-

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XXX - 16 Mar 2008 21:06 GMT
> > > > Here is the deal.  Honking is a signal of some emergency situation
> > > > that the honker has observed.
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>
> -john-

And if the person in front of you is going 10 mph and you can't see
them....
Larry Bud - 17 Mar 2008 00:19 GMT
On Mar 15, 11:55 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> More proof of just how stupid these deadly and criminal speeders are. You
> try to intimidate other drivers and they'll do just the opposite of what
> you want.

What's even more stupid is you, who apparently believes that OEM Horns
have volume controls.
Galen Hekhuis - 17 Mar 2008 00:38 GMT
>On Mar 15, 11:55 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
><xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>What's even more stupid is you, who apparently believes that OEM Horns
>have volume controls.

Actually, some did.  I can remember adjusting a little screw on Bosch
horns on VWs.  Work orders actually had customer requests to make
their horns louder (rarely softer).

Anyway, I've never used a horn on any of my vehicles.  If I had enough
time to use the horn, I could take evasive action.  By the time I was
done, it seemed kinda pointless to use my horn, except maybe to vent
my frustration.  If I wasn't directly involved, I didn't want to cause
a distraction as people generally look to where they thought the noise
came from.
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