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60 Minutes Reports on Sleep-Deprived Drivers

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Scott in SoCal - 17 Mar 2008 05:23 GMT
During a report on sleep-deprivation experiments, Leslie Stahl asked
one test subject, who had been deprived of sleep for 5 days, and who
was having trouble answering even the most basic questions, if she
felt that she could go downstairs and drive a motor vehicle. The test
subject thought that she could(!!!) There is also some interesting
info on "micro-sleeping" behind the wheel.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3942130n&channel=/se
ctions/60minutes/videoplayer3415.shtml

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necromancer - 17 Mar 2008 08:59 GMT
>During a report on sleep-deprivation experiments, Leslie Stahl asked
>one test subject, who had been deprived of sleep for 5 days, and who
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>http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3942130n&channel=/se
ctions/60minutes/videoplayer3415.shtml

Explains the quality of krl rgrz's videos and the whl ingeneral, me
thinks......

Now if only he would drive while sleep deprived and go over a
cliff....

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"Somebody is trying to suck on the teat of the WHL...
You'll never make it anywhere, necrophiliac."
                      --Carl Rogers - 2/18/08

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Studemania - 17 Mar 2008 22:57 GMT
On Mar 16, 11:59 pm, necromancer
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:23:35 -0700, Scott in SoCal
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There seems to be a high incidence of travelling salesmen driving off
the road or into other vehicles on Motorway trips after a busy day.

In addition, the tax laws are such that those who get company cars
have to do a certain mileage, so people are taking useless trips as
period-ending dates get near. For instance, driving from London the
the Scottish Highlands to add another 1000 miles, is not unknown.

(Sun sets at 3 PM and it's been a long day, the car is comfortable,
the music is nice, Birmingham rest stop in twenty minutes or
so ......... Boom!
Ad absurdum per aspera - 18 Mar 2008 20:45 GMT
> Sun sets at 3 PM and it's been a long day, the car is comfortable,
> the music is nice, Birmingham rest stop in twenty minutes or
> so ......... Boom!

This (falling asleep at the wheel, not getting a company car as a tax
dodge, alas) is the theory that makes the most sense to me about a
trend I've seen out in the wide open spaces of the western US.  I can
hardly take a long road trip without seeing the aftermath of an
otherwise pretty inexplicable and often high-energy single-car
wipeout.   In one instance I was the first on the scene and discovered
that that was what had happened.  They were coming back from a weekend
of riding motorcycles in the desert, dozed off at the wheel, and, as
you said, "Boom!"    This discovery was in the dim light before dawn,
as I was just getting back on the road.

In that case, everybody was alright, though their pickup truck had
been stood on its ear and was a bit wrinkly -- -- when I left, they
were attempting to push it back onto its wheels, presumably to get out
of there before the cops showed up.   In other cases, what was left
was a meatball at the bottom of an embankment or stubbed up against
some large hard obstacle, and it was pretty likely that everyone was
not alright.

Of course, alcohol and sleep deprivation go together like tow trucks
and ambulances.

The five days cited in the original posting sounds like overkill for
most people.  By 36 hours without sleep I'm seeing things, and have
long since passed the point where I have any business behind the
wheel.

A key warning sign is the advent of  "microsleep" -- the feeling that
you just lost an infinitesimal slice of time from your consciousness.
There are other earlier warning signs (wandering attention, big yawns,
difficulty figuratively and literally focusing...)  but microsleep is
final notice from your body that a motel or rest area or a safe-
looking turnoff would be a *very*  timely discovery.    Keep pushing
it too long and you risk going into plain old macrosleep and waking up
in the ditch... or not at all.

--Joe
Studemania - 18 Mar 2008 23:23 GMT
On Mar 18, 11:45 am, Ad absurdum per aspera <jtc...@california.com>
wrote:
> > Sun sets at 3 PM and it's been a long day, the car is comfortable,
> > the music is nice, Birmingham rest stop in twenty minutes or
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>
> --Joe

I got away with falling asleep twice with no problem, but I was almost
touching the LH curb of a 4 lane city street!
I was behind an 18 wheeler that had exactly the same experience, I was
blinking and beeping and don't know if that's what woke him.
 
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