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Hey you crybaby truckers - If diesel is so expensive, demand lower speed limits

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 20 Mar 2008 04:09 GMT
Let's bring back the 55 or maybe even 50 mph. Save gas and save lives. High
speeds means high wind resistance and that's why you guys get such lousy
mileage.
timeOday - 19 Mar 2008 22:17 GMT
> Let's bring back the 55 or maybe even 50 mph. Save gas and save lives. High
> speeds means high wind resistance and that's why you guys get such lousy
> mileage.

Time is also expensive.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 20 Mar 2008 04:33 GMT
>> Let's bring back the 55 or maybe even 50 mph. Save gas and save
>> lives. High speeds means high wind resistance and that's why you guys
>> get such lousy mileage.
>
> Time is also expensive.

Make up your mind, moron.  Do you want to save money or not? THINK
ultimauw@hotmail.com - 20 Mar 2008 05:21 GMT
On Mar 19, 7:09 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Let's bring back the 55 or maybe even 50 mph. Save gas and save lives. High
> speeds means high wind resistance and that's why you guys get such lousy
> mileage.

Once upon a time, U.S. cities had a rather elaborate rail system.
This was destroyed in favor of interests of automakers.
Brent P - 20 Mar 2008 05:38 GMT
>On Mar 19, 7:09 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
><xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Once upon a time, U.S. cities had a rather elaborate rail system.
>This was destroyed in favor of interests of automakers.

No. It slowly died as government took money from taxpayers to favor
trucking for cargo and air travel for passengers and cargo.
Studemania - 20 Mar 2008 23:49 GMT
On Mar 19, 8:38 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P)
wrote:
> In article <379cb240-dccc-484c-86d7-a0a02383c...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, ultim...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> No. It slowly died as government took money from taxpayers to favor
> trucking for cargo and air travel for passengers and cargo.

Moving business and industries away friom the railroads have something
to do with it also. Don't forget that the tir makers liked trucking
better, as did road builders....and customers!
(I'm old enough to remember the crush of downtown shopp9jg and work
during WWII. Spreading the work force arund certainly made life more
pleasant for many. Check with other big-city workers in their 70's.
Brent P - 21 Mar 2008 00:02 GMT
>On Mar 19, 8:38 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P)
>wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>Moving business and industries away friom the railroads have something
>to do with it also.

That happened because trucking's infastructure is mostly paid for with
taxes. Why pay for a railroad siding when the taxpayers will build you a
'free' road?

> Don't forget that the tir makers liked trucking
>better, as did road builders....and customers!
>(I'm old enough to remember the crush of downtown shopp9jg and work
>during WWII. Spreading the work force arund certainly made life more
>pleasant for many. Check with other big-city workers in their 70's.

And in the 21st century there's just one big traffic jam throughout the
metro area.
Studemania - 25 Mar 2008 04:34 GMT
On Mar 19, 8:38 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P)
wrote:
> In article <379cb240-dccc-484c-86d7-a0a02383c...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, ultim...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> No. It slowly died as government took money from taxpayers to favor
> trucking for cargo and air travel for passengers and cargo.

The local transit system (trolley cars, underground & even trolley
busses) were done in by GM, basically, who had half the market,either
directly or through other builders to which they supplied components.

I rode them, even electric busses were in use in San Fran in 1972 -
clean and quiet, with long enough poles so that they could stop
curbside.
We were within four blocks of five different routes.....but I drove.
Blame me!
HarryNadds - 20 Mar 2008 12:28 GMT
On Mar 19, 10:09 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Let's bring back the 55 or maybe even 50 mph. Save gas and save lives. High
> speeds means high wind resistance and that's why you guys get such lousy
> mileage.

Why not bring back the horse and carriage you drooling imbecile??
You've got to be the second most idiotic MoFo on Usenet.Sorry,RobW has
first place firmly sewed up.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 20 Mar 2008 17:03 GMT
> On Mar 19, 10:09 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> You've got to be the second most idiotic MoFo on Usenet.Sorry,RobW has
> first place firmly sewed up.

Harry, the board notes that you evaded the issue and responded with
childish personal attacks.  Have a perfect day.
HarryNadds - 20 Mar 2008 19:45 GMT
> > On Mar 19, 10:09 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> > <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Harry, the board notes that you evaded the issue and responded with
> childish personal attacks.  Have a perfect day.

My day will be perfect after you drop down on your knees and gobble my
throbbing love muscle you f.cking jackass!!
necromancer - 21 Mar 2008 04:06 GMT
>> On Mar 19, 10:09 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
>> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Harry, the board notes

This isn't a, "board," you moron.

> that you evaded the issue

You mean like you continue to evade the issue that the Blessed Imam
has raised?

>and responded with childish personal attacks.

Pot ---> Kettle ---> Black, fuckwit.

> Have a perfect day.

HAND, luzer!

--
S&DDAM admits to putting others in danger with its beater:

"Foot pumps are a joke. I had one once and since the piston only moves like
2 inches it took 50 pumps to raise the pressure by one psi.  Go with the
hand pumps where the piston moves  around 15 inches. One of my tires has
exposed cords and i have to pump it up every week. "

   --Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS, 3/6/08
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/yvrmhl
Msg ID: Xns9A59DDA463296riemann1850yahoocom@216.168.3.70
necromancer - 20 Mar 2008 12:35 GMT
SFB spewed:

>Let's bring back the 55 or maybe even 50 mph. Save gas and save lives. High
>speeds means high wind resistance and that's why you guys get such lousy
>mileage.

Hey moron: The highest minimum freeway speed limit I know of is 50MPH
in FL. IF the gear jammers want to go 50MPH, there is no law stopping
them.

O,BTW: during WWII, the national speed limit was 35MPH. Why don't you
advocate that; or are you admitting that you and your generation
couldn't carry the Greatest Generation's jock strap?

And another thing, there is an issue that hasn't been addressed:

Have *you* ever driven a car faster then the postes speed limit? Quit
driving up the price of fuel for the rest of us, you blood thirsty
degenerate.

HAND, luser. Its time for me to hit the road and consume some gasoline
for pure entertainment purposes.

Loco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend admits
to being a deadly speeder:

"There's a 55mph freeway near where i live and
if i do 50, everybody passes me. But if i do
60 very few do."
      --Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE/
Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are Murderers (SADDAM) 12/17/2004
ref: http://tinyurl.com/np3y6
Message ID: <1103257015.147448.55640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
HarryNadds - 20 Mar 2008 14:45 GMT
> SFB spewed:
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Loco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend admits
> to being a deadly speeder:

 How fast was Ted "the swimmer" kennedy going when he drove his gas
guzzling Oldsmobile 98 off the Chappaquidick bridge?? Not fast enough
I guess.Even though he left his passenger to drown he survived the
crash,dammit!!!

> "There's a 55mph freeway near where i live and
>  if i do 50, everybody passes me. But if i do
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> ref:http://tinyurl.com/np3y6
> Message ID: <1103257015.147448.55...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
necromancer - 21 Mar 2008 04:06 GMT
>> SFB spewed:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>I guess.Even though he left his passenger to drown he survived the
>crash,dammit!!!

That would be a handy piece of trivia to know: how fast Ted "Sub
Captain" Kennedy was driving the night he sank Mary Jo.....

--
S&DDAM admits to putting others in danger with its beater:

"Foot pumps are a joke. I had one once and since the piston only moves like
2 inches it took 50 pumps to raise the pressure by one psi.  Go with the
hand pumps where the piston moves  around 15 inches. One of my tires has
exposed cords and i have to pump it up every week. "

   --Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS, 3/6/08
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/yvrmhl
Msg ID: Xns9A59DDA463296riemann1850yahoocom@216.168.3.70
gpsman - 20 Mar 2008 13:31 GMT
On Mar 19, 11:09 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: <maniacal crossposting adjusted>

> Let's bring back the 55 or maybe even 50 mph.

Spurious conclusion.  One's choice of a legal velocity is only loosely
related to speed limits.

> High
> speeds means high wind resistance and that's why you guys get such lousy
> mileage.

I think the 12-15L 400-600hp± engines and 30K± pound empty weight have
something to do with it.

AAR, it will be interesting to note who ends up crying as inflation
shoots the price of everything sky high in the next few months...
well, except for commercial machines, furnishings, etc.  The market is
already glutted with used crap as businesses are downsizing and going
tits-up from sea to shining sea. (except for restaurant equipment, you
can always find morons willing to open a restaurant)

That, of course, means we can expect rampant unemployment by the end
of this year.  And when the unemployment and welfare benefits run out
and people get hungry... their morals tend to adjust to fit their
needs.

On the bright side, for me anyway, there's going to be a lot fewer
vehicles on the road, traveling fewer miles, trucks included, and I'll
be able to buy nice vehicles and a lot of other stuff for pennies on
the dollar... and there will still be plenty of morons in CA to pay 4x
market rate for my MT real estate.

Remember, you read it here...
-----

- gpsman
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 20 Mar 2008 17:05 GMT
gpsman <gpsman@driversmail.com> wrote in news:55286d66-4449-4a05-b842-
4e508020b357@p73g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:

> On Mar 19, 11:09 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: <maniacal crossposting adjusted>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Spurious conclusion.  One's choice of a legal velocity is only loosely
> related to speed limits.

"choice of a legal velocity"???  Spoken like a true criminal.
Studemania - 20 Mar 2008 23:56 GMT
> gpsman <gps...@driversmail.com> wrote in news:55286d66-4449-4a05-b842-
> 4e508020b...@p73g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> "choice of a legal velocity"???  Spoken like a true criminal.

Velocity and speed are not always the same. Which do you select? (A
winner of the Indy 500 has the same velocity as the last place
driver...0 mph.)
Scott in SoCal - 21 Mar 2008 12:38 GMT
Does anybody have a theory as to why SADDAM targets the specifc groups
that he does? One would think that an inflammatory post intended to
piss off Truckers would at the very least be cross-posted to
misc.transport.trucking, yet that group was conspicuously absent from
the OP's Newsgroups list. Clearly there is more going on here than
simple, straightforward trolling.

Can anyone explain SADDAM's true agenda?
Signature

"Dave's not here, man!"
 - Tommy Chong

gpsman - 21 Mar 2008 13:21 GMT
> Does anybody have a theory as to why SADDAM targets the specifc groups
> that he does? One would think that an inflammatory post intended to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Can anyone explain SADDAM's true agenda?

<spit take> BUHWAHAHAHA<gasp>HAHAHAHAHAHA...!
-----

- gpsman

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
MLOM - 21 Mar 2008 22:23 GMT
> > Does anybody have a theory as to why SADDAM targets the specifc groups
> > that he does? One would think that an inflammatory post intended to
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

That sounds about as close an estimate of SADDAM's true agenda as
anyone else's guess.  :)
Scott in SoCal - 23 Mar 2008 00:08 GMT
>> <spit take> BUHWAHAHAHA<gasp>HAHAHAHAHAHA...!
>>  -----
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>That sounds about as close an estimate of SADDAM's true agenda as
>anyone else's guess.  :)

Of course, there has never been any doubt about GPSTroll's true
agenda. :)
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"Dave's not here, man!"
 - Tommy Chong

necromancer@ ISM - 21 Mar 2008 15:24 GMT
>Does anybody have a theory as to why SADDAM targets the specifc groups
>that he does? One would think that an inflammatory post intended to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Can anyone explain SADDAM's true agenda?

S&DDAM has SFB?

--
S&DDAM admits to putting others in danger with its beater:

"Foot pumps are a joke. I had one once and since the piston only moves like
2 inches it took 50 pumps to raise the pressure by one psi.  Go with the
hand pumps where the piston moves  around 15 inches. One of my tires has
exposed cords and i have to pump it up every week. "

   --Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS, 3/6/08
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/yvrmhl
Msg ID: Xns9A59DDA463296riemann1850yahoocom@216.168.3.70
Studemania - 25 Mar 2008 04:49 GMT
On Mar 21, 6:25 am, "necromancer@ ISM" <55_sux@worldofnecromancer_NO-
SPAM_NO-WAY.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 04:38:48 -0700, Scott in SoCal
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Ref:http://tinyurl.com/yvrmhl
> Msg ID: Xns9A59DDA463296riemann1850yahoo...@216.168.3.70

FWIR: The thinner pump means that you are exerting very little force
over a long distance whereas the 2" pump has a large force over a
short distance. Both take the same amount of energy to pump a tire up
to the same PSI of same volume air.
Efficiency may cause a difference in energy exerted. With a short
stroke pump, you exert a lot of energy just keeping the pump steady
and yourself from falling over, if it is the type I have.
The amount of energy used to fill the tire is the same for both, but
ergs wasted in associated movements make you more tired.
Attach the pump to a wide base at an angle and it will be much easier
to pump - but harder to store.
MLOM - 22 Mar 2008 01:22 GMT
> Does anybody have a theory as to why SADDAM targets the specifc groups
> that he does? One would think that an inflammatory post intended to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> "Dave's not here, man!"
>   - Tommy Chong

Are you sure you want to go there?  Besides, when we want his opinion,
we'll give it to him.
Studemania - 23 Mar 2008 05:08 GMT
> Does anybody have a theory as to why SADDAM targets the specifc groups
> that he does? One would think that an inflammatory post intended to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> "Dave's not here, man!"
>   - Tommy Chong

He wants to be quoted in upcoming textbooks for use in Logic 101
classes . They need to quote others than just the talk-radio folks.
(Both left and right, I add)
tankfixer - 22 Mar 2008 21:11 GMT
> Let's bring back the 55 or maybe even 50 mph. Save gas and save lives. High
> speeds means high wind resistance and that's why you guys get such lousy
> mileage.

You really are a moron if you think a speed limit means you MUST drive
at that speed
Garth Almgren - 23 Mar 2008 02:47 GMT
>> Let's bring back the 55 or maybe even 50 mph. Save gas and save lives. High
>> speeds means high wind resistance and that's why you guys get such lousy
>> mileage.
>
> You really are a moron if you think a speed limit means you MUST drive
> at that speed

And an even bigger one if he thinks that changing the number on a sign
will change the speed people choose to drive more than a trifle.

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 23 Mar 2008 04:57 GMT
>>> You really are a moron if you think a speed limit means you MUST
>> drive at that speed
>
> And an even bigger one if he thinks that changing the number on a sign
> will change the speed people choose to drive more than a trifle.

It will if it's combined with stiff penalties.  If doing 20 or more over
the speed limit was an automatic felony, would you do it?.  And if 10-19
over the limit carried a fine in the thousands of $, would you do that???

Speeding is a super-violent crime and it's time to stop coddling these
killers and gas-wasters who commit it.
Studemania - 23 Mar 2008 05:16 GMT
On Mar 22, 7:57 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >>> You really are a moron if you think a speed limit means you MUST
> >> drive at that speed
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Speeding is a super-violent crime and it's time to stop coddling these
> killers and gas-wasters who commit it.

I wpuil;d comment,. but I never con remember if the word I need is
spelt "weird" or "wierd"
Garth Almgren - 23 Mar 2008 05:53 GMT
Around 3/22/2008 8:57 PM, Aunt Judy (AKA Pride of Diarrhea, AKA
"Saddam") <http://tinyurl.com/65nqz> wrote:

>>>> You really are a moron if you think a speed limit means you MUST
>>> drive at that speed
>> And an even bigger one if he thinks that changing the number on a sign
>> will change the speed people choose to drive more than a trifle.
>
> It will if it's combined with stiff penalties.

History says that just ain't so...

> If doing 20 or more over
> the speed limit was an automatic felony, would you do it?

Just curious, but why choose 20 over? Why not, say, 15 over?

Oh, what's that? You say you'd want to add assaulting an officer to that
felony charge of 41 in a 25 MPH school zone? Be my guest.

Actually, it'd be nice to have speeding be criminalized again, so at
least then you could get a jury trial and have a fighting chance.
Since speeding is no longer a crime in most jurisdictions, you are at
the mercy of the state.

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    "I am patient with stupidity
        but not with those who are proud of it." - Edith Sitwell
          (Ventis secundis, tene cursum.)

Studemania - 23 Mar 2008 05:14 GMT
> In article <Xns9A66D74B08D05riemann1850yahoo...@216.168.3.70>, xeton2001
> @yahoo.com says...
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> You really are a moron if you think a speed limit means you MUST drive
> at that speed
It's safe to drive at the speed limit sometimes, but the safet speed
limit seldom agrees with the legal one.
eg:  if the SL is 50MPH and everyone else in normal traffic is going
65 - 70, then 50 is a dangerous speed and the 50 MPH driver might be
pulled over to blow into the tube.
 
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