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@#$%&^ ricers!

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Nate Nagel - 20 Mar 2008 22:29 GMT
Got home from work early today, as I had taken the afternoon off because
I *thought* we were supposed to close on a refi today which didn't
happen, but I had to drive down to the title company anyway (don't ask.
 If you get me started, you'll just get a long, expletive-laden tirade
about how getting a simple mortgage seems to be a process only
convenient for people without jobs, making them useless to anyone who
could actually afford to pay them, and involves at least three or four
different entities that refuse to communicate with each other and yet
all need to share information to make the process run smoothly.  But I
digress.)  Anyway, I was sitting in my basement alternately watching TV
and taking work-related phone calls and was finally contemplating
hanging up my trusty (OK, not really, but that's another
expletive-filled rant) cell phone, changing into something a little more
comfortable, and perhaps attacking that big mess of chickweed in the
front yard that the previous owners thoughtfully left for me.

Just as I'm thinking of actually getting up off the couch, I hear
something strangely reminiscent of the 60-cycle Hum of Death(tm) and
being in a house full of ancient appliances, fixtures, etc. immediately
leaped up to investigate.  Stalled fridge compressor?  nope...  Old
Blaupunkt tube radio suddenly getting all Christine on me?  nope...  was
just about to head back downstairs to kill the main breaker when for
whatever reason I just did a lap around the first floor and noticed that
the racket got louder the closer to the front of the house (where
nothing of any importance is located) I got.  Opened front door,
suddenly it's REALLY loud.  The neighbors across the street apparently
got a visit from some ricer in a fart-canned RSX and it was just sitting
there on fast idle (if you do the math - and I did, because I'm silly
like that - to exactly duplicate a 60 Hz tone with a 4-cyl, Otto cycle
engine, you'd be turning exactly 1800 RPM - WTF?) farting away.  Holy
crap was that loud, I think sticking your head under the rear bumper of
the Fabulous BeaterPorsche while it's running still wouldn't be as loud
as listening to this POS thrashing away while it's parked across the
damn street.  (never mind that the Porsche idles low enough that you can
practically hear each asplosion individually...)  Even the Studbuster
with it's straight-through mufflers wouldn't make that much racket, and
certainly you couldn't mistake that lovely cammed-up V-8 idle for a
ballast burning itself up...

My lawn.  Off it.  I guess I'm officially a Crotchety Old Guy now.
Damn, I don't *FEEL* old.

nate

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Brent P - 20 Mar 2008 22:52 GMT
>Got home from work early today, as I had taken the afternoon off because
>I *thought* we were supposed to close on a refi today which didn't
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>My lawn.  Off it.  I guess I'm officially a Crotchety Old Guy now.
>Damn, I don't *FEEL* old.

At least he didn't have a billion watt stereo with a thumping stereo
that shakes your windows.
MLOM - 20 Mar 2008 23:45 GMT
> In article <frukv101...@news2.newsguy.com>, Nate Nagel wrote:
> >Got home from work early today, as I had taken the afternoon off because
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>
> - Show quoted text -

He might have...but the fart can drowned it out.  :)
Brent P - 21 Mar 2008 00:00 GMT
>> In article <frukv101...@news2.newsguy.com>, Nate Nagel wrote:
>> >Got home from work early today, as I had taken the afternoon off because
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>
>He might have...but the fart can drowned it out.  :)

The windows would still visibly shake though.
Nate Nagel - 21 Mar 2008 00:30 GMT
>>Got home from work early today, as I had taken the afternoon off because
>>I *thought* we were supposed to close on a refi today which didn't
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> At least he didn't have a billion watt stereo with a thumping stereo
> that shakes your windows.

That's easily identified as a non-life-threatening noise, and is easily
counteracted by application of superior volume of acceptable music (Also
Sprach Zarathustra, perhaps; Toccata and Fugue in D Minor if I'm feeling
old school; perhaps some Black Sabbath; or if I feel real obnoxious (and
the neighbor's kid isn't home) maybe "Nuggets" (from Cake's Fashion
Nugget, anyone familiar with it will know why...)

nate

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Scott in SoCal - 21 Mar 2008 00:41 GMT
>Just as I'm thinking of actually getting up off the couch, I hear
>something strangely reminiscent of the 60-cycle Hum of Death(tm) and
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>certainly you couldn't mistake that lovely cammed-up V-8 idle for a
>ballast burning itself up...

So you're saying you'd prefer to have this car visit your neighbor's
house?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ANak8V7bo0
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Nate Nagel - 21 Mar 2008 00:46 GMT
>>Just as I'm thinking of actually getting up off the couch, I hear
>>something strangely reminiscent of the 60-cycle Hum of Death(tm) and
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ANak8V7bo0

Holy s**t I had no idea a Chevy could sound that good.  I bet all the
other neighbors would be pissed as hell though, that sucker sounds loud.
 I bet emissions testing is an experience too.

nate

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Scott in SoCal - 21 Mar 2008 12:47 GMT
>> So you're saying you'd prefer to have this car visit your neighbor's
>> house?
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>other neighbors would be pissed as hell though, that sucker sounds loud.
>  I bet emissions testing is an experience too.

Here's the thing about loud exhausts: they may sound good when you
hear them for 1 or 2 minutes at a time, but what's it like to live
with that noise day in and day out? Even with the stock exhaust the C6
is none too quiet inside the cabin; Corsa Sports would be unbearable -
at least until I went completely deaf!

Maybe Dan is right - I *am* an old geezer!! :)
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N8N - 21 Mar 2008 15:26 GMT
> >> So you're saying you'd prefer to have this car visit your neighbor's
> >> house?
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>
> Maybe Dan is right - I *am* an old geezer!! :)

No, I agree with you.  I like the *sound* of the car in that video,
but if it's as loud IRL as it seems in the video it'd piss me off to
drive it.  If you could just keep the sound but turn the volume
control down a little bit that'd be fine.

When I put the carpet in the Stude I will most likely use some Dynamat
under it rather than the factory jute padding and also replace the
cardboard trunk divider with something a little more substantial for
just this reason - I like the sound, but not the volume.

Replacing a side-dump exhaust with pipes coming straight back under
the bumper also goes a long way.  My dad has a Chevy pickup with
headers, duals, and Turbo mufflers and it's not much louder than stock
from inside the cabin as when he had the tailpipes made he had them
bring them out under the bumper instead of behind the rear wheels as
stock.

nate
Ad absurdum per aspera - 21 Mar 2008 01:37 GMT
> 1800 RPM - WTF?

"Performance" chip so badly mapped,  the computer thinks that's what
it has to do to keep things running?   (Possibly compounded by toasted
sensors and/or leaks?)  That sort of thing also explains the F1-
wannabe blatting of unburned gas when they lift the throttle, which
often you get plenty of time to listen to, since despite the annoying
noise and the high revs, the car just isn't going that fast.

(Well sorted out, some of them can be quite fast.  Most of them, like,
frankly, most of the hotrods from back in any day, just have an
appearance and sound that call attention to the owner -- usually a
major priority of males in that age group -- or at best reach some
modest height in one dimension of performance at great cost in all-
around driveability.   The  Fast and Furious wannabees, like some
other cliches that come to mind, such as "scrapers" or  really
exaggerated four-by-fours,  should probably be interpreted in terms of
intramural courtship rituals and dominance posturing, not as
machines.)

> My lawn.  Off it.  I guess I'm officially a Crotchety Old Guy now.

Recently caught myself formulating the advice that I'd give to Kids
These Days, if I thought there were any chance they'd take the iPod
out of their ear and listen:   "The adult world  does not want to see
your buttcrack or hear your subwoofer."   The use of the words Kids
These Days, even as an unexpressed thought, probably says it all.
Gotta go get a glass of water to take a pill.

--Joe
Brent P - 21 Mar 2008 01:42 GMT
>(Well sorted out, some of them can be quite fast.  Most of them, like,
>frankly, most of the hotrods from back in any day, just have an
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>intramural courtship rituals and dominance posturing, not as
>machines.)

Find a place where ricers gather and drive by other people, sit back
and watch. It's like watching an episode of Wild Kingdom. De-evolution
in action.
 
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