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Lighted Street Name Signs

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socrtwo - 24 Mar 2008 03:49 GMT
Because of their small size and all the street light and commercial
enterprise glare, street signs are often hard to see at night.  This
is causing accidents especially for older persons, people unfamiliar
with the area and/or using an out of date GPS or map.

So maybe street signs could be doubled in size and lighted by the old
glow in the dark method or by new simple technology solar battery
powered LED backlights.
Scott in SoCal - 24 Mar 2008 14:26 GMT
>Because of their small size and all the street light and commercial
>enterprise glare, street signs are often hard to see at night.  This
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>glow in the dark method or by new simple technology solar battery
>powered LED backlights.

Won't help. SoCal has large, lighted street signs and geezers still
cause all kinds of collisions.
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Studemania - 24 Mar 2008 23:43 GMT
> >Because of their small size and all the street light and commercial
> >enterprise glare, street signs are often hard to see at night.  This
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> "Dave's not here, man!"
>   - Tommy Chong

Nothing once you get off the main sreets - and these "mai streets"
include almost all two-lane residential streets.
I'm taling San Diego , city and county.
Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 24 Mar 2008 19:13 GMT
> Because of their small size and all the street light and commercial
> enterprise glare, street signs are often hard to see at night.  This
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> glow in the dark method or by new simple technology solar battery
> powered LED backlights.

Solar powered illumination: A good idea.
Larger signs: If you can't read them now, its time to stop driving.

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N8N - 25 Mar 2008 14:47 GMT
> > Because of their small size and all the street light and commercial
> > enterprise glare, street signs are often hard to see at night.  This
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I disagree, in many places the street signs that are used are
completely invisible, especially at night, even to a driver with
better than 20/20 vision.  Often they're only 18" or so long and
hidden behind a bush, bent at an odd angle, etc.

I remember from living in Michigan you'd often see signs at the side
of the road something like "Woodward Ave. Next Signal" or something
like that; if that were implemented more widely that would greatly
facilitate traffic flow.

nate
Studemania - 25 Mar 2008 23:33 GMT
> > > Because of their small size and all the street light and commercial
> > > enterprise glare, street signs are often hard to see at night.  This
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Good point, Nate, about the size and darkness. Spotslight are very
rare and a big flashligth won't fit into the glovebox easily.
Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 31 Mar 2008 04:40 GMT
> > > Because of their small size and all the street light and commercial
> > > enterprise glare, street signs are often hard to see at night.  This
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> better than 20/20 vision.  Often they're only 18" or so long and
> hidden behind a bush, bent at an odd angle, etc.

So, a sign that's twice as large, hidden behind a bush or bent at an odd
angle would be better?

> I remember from living in Michigan you'd often see signs at the side
> of the road something like "Woodward Ave. Next Signal" or something
> like that; if that were implemented more widely that would greatly
> facilitate traffic flow.
>
> nate

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N8N - 31 Mar 2008 15:10 GMT
> > > > Because of their small size and all the street light and commercial
> > > > enterprise glare, street signs are often hard to see at night.  This
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> So, a sign that's twice as large, hidden behind a bush or bent at an odd
> angle would be better?

No, not particularly - my point was that the "time to stop driving"
comment was unwarranted as there's lots of street signs that I can't
read, and it's not a reflection on my eyesight or awareness at all but
of the crap signage that is typically used.  e.g. a sign that would be
appropriate for a 25 MPH residential intersection being used to
indicate a cross street to a major arterial and partially obscured to
boot.

nate

> > I remember from living in Michigan you'd often see signs at the side
> > of the road something like "Woodward Ave. Next Signal" or something
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Brent P - 31 Mar 2008 15:27 GMT
>> > > > Because of their small size and all the street light and commercial
>> > > > enterprise glare, street signs are often hard to see at night.  This
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>indicate a cross street to a major arterial and partially obscured to
>boot.

Then there are the nonstandard signs and placement, especially annoying
are these signs in Park Ridge, IL:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=NW+HWY,+park+ridge,+IL&sll=37.0
625,-95.677068&sspn=85.041267,92.8125&ie=UTF8&ll=42.034568,-87.852516&spn=0.0210
69,0.029225&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=42.02665,-87.854&cbp=1,5.8266098573116665,,2,7
.508112209633997


Yes, that post is the street sign. this one is one of the more visible.

Here's another...
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=NW+HWY,+park+ridge,+IL&sll=37.0
625,-95.677068&sspn=85.041267,92.8125&ie=UTF8&ll=42.034122,-87.850714&spn=0.0210
7,0.029225&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=42.025516,-87.852197&cbp=1,86.71616613630124,,2
,2.9796186756274152


See it there? :)
socrtwo - 07 Apr 2008 11:36 GMT
On Mar 31, 10:27 am, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P)
wrote:
> In article <3a62dc8f-5f04-458a-9c4d-39ed3ad5d...@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, N8N wrote:
>
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>
> See it there? :)

That's pretty funny.  There are some similar one in Elizabeth City,
North Carolina.  At least there, the signs are white posts with blue
lettering, which of course is charming unless your lost at night with
little light and middle age eyes.
 
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