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Why are gas caps on the driver's side of some cars but the passenger's side of others?

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 31 Mar 2008 03:36 GMT
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Suppose fuel tanks were always on the driver's side of the car. Drivers
would then have to park on the right side of an open pump in order to fill
their tanks.

During busy times, all spots on the right sides of pumps would be filled
even while most spots on the left sides of pumps remained empty.

Putting petrol caps on different sides of different cars means that some
cars can access pumps from the left. And this makes it less likely that
drivers will have to queue for fuel.

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Gas (petrol) caps are usually located on the opposite side from the
tailpipe.

I have yet to see a gas pump hose that couldn't reach across a car
(trucks are a different case).

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Studemania - 31 Mar 2008 04:28 GMT
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I wish that the tank gauge on the instrument panel was on the same
side of the filler.
necromancer - 31 Mar 2008 05:16 GMT
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>I have yet to see a gas pump hose that couldn't reach across a car
>(trucks are a different case).

And (atleast in the US), gas pumps have handles on both sides of the
pump or atleast the pump can be accessed from both sides. I fail to
see what the OP is whining about.....


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Brent P - 31 Mar 2008 05:22 GMT
>And (atleast in the US), gas pumps have handles on both sides of the
>pump or atleast the pump can be accessed from both sides. I fail to
>see what the OP is whining about.....

who knows? The troll just posts for replies. I prefer the center of the
back of the car for the filling location. Pull up to any pump without
concern as to which side it's on.  

Probably a combination of fire protection and tanks under the rear seat
is why that location isn't used any longer.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 31 Mar 2008 06:40 GMT
On Mar 30, 10:22 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P)

> who knows? The troll just posts for replies. I prefer the center of the
> back of the car for the filling location. Pull up to any pump without
> concern as to which side it's on.
>
> Probably a combination of fire protection and tanks under the rear seat
> is why that location isn't used any longer.

Too many rear-end collisions is why, you hatefilled numbskull.
Larry Bud - 31 Mar 2008 17:24 GMT
On Mar 31, 1:40 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
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> On Mar 30, 10:22 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P)
>
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> Too many rear-end collisions is why, you hatefilled numbskull.

Many caused by your love affair with red light cameras.
Howard Brazee - 31 Mar 2008 21:45 GMT
>Gas (petrol) caps are usually located on the opposite side from the
>tailpipe.
>
>I have yet to see a gas pump hose that couldn't reach across a car
>(trucks are a different case).

In vans with one sliding door, gas caps were on the other side.  I've
had cars that had the cap behind the license plate.

If the free space at the gas station is on the right, and my gas cap
is on the right, I come in from the other side.    Doesn't everybody?
Studemania - 01 Apr 2008 01:38 GMT
> If the free space at the gas station is on the right, and my gas cap
> is on the right, I come in from the other side.    Doesn't everybody?

YOU DISCOVERED THAT?  (I though that I was the only one) <g>
Dave - 01 Apr 2008 13:03 GMT
> If the free space at the gas station is on the right, and my gas cap
> is on the right, I come in from the other side. Doesn't everybody?

YOU DISCOVERED THAT?  (I though that I was the only one) <g>

In some areas that is actually OUTLAWED though, some type of bullshit fire
code which IS enforced by the local fire marshalls.  I guess the theory is
that if you drive the wrong way through the fuel island, the whole gas
station will explode into a huge fireball that might scorch the governor's
mansion?  :)  -Dave
Matthew T. Russotto - 02 Apr 2008 02:25 GMT
>I have yet to see a gas pump hose that couldn't reach across a car
>(trucks are a different case).

I've seen plenty that couldn't reach across my Outback, and some which
can't reach across the Miata.
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Clave - 31 Mar 2008 06:46 GMT
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> cars can access pumps from the left. And this makes it less likely that
> drivers will have to queue for fuel.

Right.  All gas stations have only one entrance and exit.

This is the stupidest thing you've posted in months.

Jim
Bobby Knight - 31 Mar 2008 13:36 GMT
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>Jim

Yep...and that's saying something.   There's nothing between those
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Larry Bud - 31 Mar 2008 17:27 GMT
On Mar 30, 10:36 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
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> Suppose fuel tanks were always on the driver's side of the car. Drivers
> would then have to park on the right side of an open pump in order to fill
> their tanks.

Here's one that will scramble the two neurons left in your brain:  My
gas cap in the CENTER above the license plate.

> During busy times, all spots on the right sides of pumps would be filled
> even while most spots on the left sides of pumps remained empty.

Oh my God, I may have given you too much credit thinking you had 2
neurons left...
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 31 Mar 2008 17:33 GMT
> Here's one that will scramble the two neurons left in your brain:  My
> gas cap in the CENTER above the license plate.

Everyone has seen that you idiot. But it's pretty rare because of all
the rear-end collisions caused by drunks like you.
MNMikew - 31 Mar 2008 17:41 GMT
>> Here's one that will scramble the two neurons left in your brain:  My
>> gas cap in the CENTER above the license plate.
>
> Everyone has seen that you idiot. But it's pretty rare because of all
> the rear-end collisions caused by drunks like you.

You must still drive a Pinto then idiot.
Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 01 Apr 2008 01:29 GMT
> >> Here's one that will scramble the two neurons left in your brain:  My
> >> gas cap in the CENTER above the license plate.
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> >
> You must still drive a Pinto then idiot.

Best sticker I've ever heard of on a car: Pinto hatchback with the
phrase "Close cover before striking" on the back window.

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Jeff Strickland - 31 Mar 2008 19:10 GMT
Suppose all fuel fillers were on the same side of the car -- my first choice
is to put it on the right side (passenger side in  the USA) -- all carw
would alwasy go through the station going the same way. You pull to the pump
going in one direction, and if the pumps are filled on one side, then you
smiply drive around to the other, but all cars would always be nose to tail
as they go through the pumps. Having the filler holes all on the same side
would eliminate the chaos at the gas pumps.

I suggested the filler should be on the passenger side, this would place the
operator on the curb side of the car if the gas can was needed. It is silly
to have a disabled car on the side of the road, and the operator standing
next to the traffic lanes as he tries to pour in gas.

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Dave - 31 Mar 2008 19:27 GMT
> Suppose all fuel fillers were on the same side of the car -- my first
> choice is to put it on the right side (passenger side in  the USA) -- all
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> silly to have a disabled car on the side of the road, and the operator
> standing next to the traffic lanes as he tries to pour in gas.

My first two cars had the gas filler tube (exactly centered on the rear of
the vehicle) behind a trap door under the trunk lid.  The trap door held the
rear license plate also, on one of them.  First time I drove a car with a
gas filler on the SIDE (don't remember which side) I thought that was a
really fricking STUPID place to put it.  Because of course I pulled up to
the pump with the pump on the wrong side.  And it shouldn't have MATTERED
what side the pump was on if the filler was in the rear where it should
be!!!!

f.ck gas fillers on the side, put it back on the REAR where it f.cking 
BELONGS!!!

But then I still am pissed that they moved the headlight dimmer switch to
the turn signal stalk, instead of on the footrest where it belongs, also.
Now your left foot has nothing to do usually (even if you have a manual
tranny) and your hands are too busy steering to operate the dimmer switch,
because the dimmer switch is in the WRONG place.   -Dave
Jeff Strickland - 31 Mar 2008 19:38 GMT
>> Suppose all fuel fillers were on the same side of the car -- my first
>> choice is to put it on the right side (passenger side in  the USA) -- all
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> tranny) and your hands are too busy steering to operate the dimmer switch,
> because the dimmer switch is in the WRONG place.   -Dave

The filler can't be on the back because that exposes the gas tank to the
impact of a rear end collision. They put the gas tank forward of the axle
these days, and the filler neck on the back gets in the way of the trunk.

As for your foot getting bored and your hands overworked from the dimmer
switch, get over it. Nearly everyone prefers the dimmer switch to be on the
steering column. Think about it, as a practical matter how often are you
turning and having to hit the dimmer at the same time? My hands have never
ever been too busy to work the dimmer and the steering wheel at the same
time. I can even hit the dimmer and the wipers (on different stalks on
opposite sides of the wheel) and the steering wheel all at once. There is
not a big demand for this ability because if the wipers are needed, odds are
strong that high beams are a poor choice anyway.
Dave - 01 Apr 2008 00:30 GMT
> As for your foot getting bored and your hands overworked from the dimmer
> switch, get over it. Nearly everyone prefers the dimmer switch to be on the
> steering column.

That's because other than old geezers like me, almost nobody ever drove a
car with a dimmer switch on the floor.  If they tried it, most people would
agree that it's a better system.  But moving the switch to the steering
column was one of many cost-cutting measures auto manufacturers have
adopted.  Newer isn't always better, but usually more profitable.

>Think about it, as a practical matter how often are you
>turning and having to hit the dimmer at the same time?

About every other time I round a curve at night to find traffic approaching
from the opposite direction.  But then I learned to drive when it was still
emphasized that LOW beams should only be used when absolutely necessary to
avoid blinding other drivers.  These days most drivers NEVER use the high
beams, being content to see most hazards about 10 seconds after they run
over them at night.  :)  -Dave
Nate Nagel - 01 Apr 2008 00:01 GMT
>>As for your foot getting bored and your hands overworked from the dimmer
>>switch, get over it. Nearly everyone prefers the dimmer switch to be on
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> beams, being content to see most hazards about 10 seconds after they run
> over them at night.  :)  -Dave

I'm indifferent on the high beam issue - both methods are good when well
implemented.  What I hate is when you have both the dimmer switch and
the little squeezy bulb for the windshield washers on the floor
(remember those?) and your shuffling around trying to find the right
thing to step on...

I *HATE* those "multifunction stalks."  Turn signals on a stalk = good.
 High beams = acceptable.  But when you cram cruise control, wiper
controls, and sometimes even headlight controls onto the same stalk with
the two aforementioned functions, you end up with a flaming bag of crap.
 My mom had a Renault once where you honked the horn by pressing the
end of the turn signal stalk.  Three guesses what I thought of that
ergonomic abortion, first two don't count.

I do like the seperate stalk on the passenger side of the column for the
  windshield wipers.  There's something to be said about putting them
in a standard location, which hadn't been previously done since the days
when you had a rotary knob in the exact center of the dash to control
the vacuum motor.

I think the most ergonomically wonderful car I've ever had was a Porsche
914.  The turn signal lever was METAL and it was a joy to signal lane
changes, it felt so nice and precise.  One could almost imagine Porsche
buying the switches from Swiss watchmakers who were hand crafting them
in their spare time.  Compare and contrast with the stalk on my Ford
pickup which feels like you could break it off with any r  Unfortunately
my 914 was built a year or two before the introduced the column mounted
wiper switch, but at least Porsche bothered to use little colored knob
inserts for all the switches which lit up with the marker lights.

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Dave - 01 Apr 2008 12:56 GMT
> I *HATE* those "multifunction stalks."  Turn signals on a stalk = good.
>   High beams = acceptable.  But when you cram cruise control, wiper
> controls, and sometimes even headlight controls onto the same stalk with
> the two aforementioned functions, you end up with a flaming bag of crap.

gotta agree with you there
Scott in SoCal - 01 Apr 2008 14:25 GMT
>I *HATE* those "multifunction stalks."  Turn signals on a stalk = good.
>  High beams = acceptable.  But when you cram cruise control, wiper
>controls, and sometimes even headlight controls onto the same stalk with
>the two aforementioned functions, you end up with a flaming bag of crap.

LOL!! You'd hate mine. Cruise control, main lighting, and auxiliary
lighting all on one stalk. I've had this car for three years and I
still haven't figured it all out! :)
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Harry K - 01 Apr 2008 16:30 GMT
> >I *HATE* those "multifunction stalks."  Turn signals on a stalk = good.
> >  High beams = acceptable.  But when you cram cruise control, wiper
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> "Dave's not here, man!"
>   - Tommy Chong

I don't have the 'multi stalk' as the cc is on the steerig wheel.  But
the Ford 500 took a big leap backwards on their headlight dimmer
switch on the wiper stalk.  Used to be to dim you just flicked your
finger at the stalk.  On this one you have pull 'up' on the stalk and
then hold it for a short bit.

Harry K
Jeff Strickland - 01 Apr 2008 00:20 GMT
>> As for your foot getting bored and your hands overworked from the dimmer
>> switch, get over it. Nearly everyone prefers the dimmer switch to be on
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> column was one of many cost-cutting measures auto manufacturers have
> adopted.  Newer isn't always better, but usually more profitable.

I'm an old geezer like you, and taking the dimmer switch off of the floor is
one of the better improvements to the automobile.

>>Think about it, as a practical matter how often are you
>>turning and having to hit the dimmer at the same time?
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> beams, being content to see most hazards about 10 seconds after they run
> over them at night.  :)  -Dave

Technically, Low Beams should be used always, unless Hig Beams are actually
necessary. Low Beams are preferred, and the emphasis is that High Beams
should only be used when there is no oncoming traffic. You have the usage
patterns reversed.
Scott in SoCal - 01 Apr 2008 14:28 GMT
>> As for your foot getting bored and your hands overworked from the dimmer
>> switch, get over it. Nearly everyone prefers the dimmer switch to be on
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>car with a dimmer switch on the floor.  If they tried it, most people would
>agree that it's a better system.  

I've owned plenty of cars with foot dimmer switches. I've even owned a
car with a windshield wiper switch on the floor. The big problem with
putting a switch down there is that they RUST and eventually fail.
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Harry K - 01 Apr 2008 16:33 GMT
> >> As for your foot getting bored and your hands overworked from the dimmer
> >> switch, get over it. Nearly everyone prefers the dimmer switch to be on
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> "Dave's not here, man!"
>   - Tommy Chong

Never had that problem. Drove several very old cars in HS.  1937 chev
in 1953.  1938 chev in 1954, etc.  These were cars that were salvaged
just before the tow truck was due to take em to the dump.

Harry K
Bobby Knight - 31 Mar 2008 20:30 GMT
>But then I still am pissed that they moved the headlight dimmer switch to
>the turn signal stalk, instead of on the footrest where it belongs, also.
>Now your left foot has nothing to do usually (even if you have a manual
>tranny) and your hands are too busy steering to operate the dimmer switch,
>because the dimmer switch is in the WRONG place.   -Dave

You probably miss the crank starter too.  :-)
DanKMTB@gmail.com - 31 Mar 2008 23:44 GMT
> >But then I still am pissed that they moved the headlight dimmer switch to
> >the turn signal stalk, instead of on the footrest where it belongs, also.
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>
> You probably miss the crank starter too.  :-)

I've only driven one vehicle with the floor mounted dimmer switch, but
I liked it.  I don't expect it to come back though.  As far as the
hand crank goes, I am currently reading a book that takes place in the
hand crank era.  The first time they mentioned the guy putting the
lady in the drivers seat I'm thinking:  "Let her drive?  His car!  On
the first date?!"  Then they got to the part about him going to the
front to crank it and I got to thinking... that's pretty cool.  I
wouldn't mind a car with a hand crank.  It'd be cool as heck.  On
sunny Sundays.  As long as I had something more modern for when it was
lousy out.
Studemania - 01 Apr 2008 01:45 GMT
On Mar 31, 2:44 pm, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > >But then I still am pissed that they moved the headlight dimmer switch to
> > >the turn signal stalk, instead of on the footrest where it belongs, also.
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> sunny Sundays.  As long as I had something more modern for when it was
> lousy out.

Set the hand throttle, the spark advance, the choke, the parking
brake, prime the carb (maybe). Grab the crank and pull, then continue
to run around resetting until it's idleing properly.
(add a key for some of the newer old-ones.)
Harry K - 01 Apr 2008 16:37 GMT
On Mar 31, 3:44 pm, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > >But then I still am pissed that they moved the headlight dimmer switch to
> > >the turn signal stalk, instead of on the footrest where it belongs, also.
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> sunny Sundays.  As long as I had something more modern for when it was
> lousy out.

Don't forget the partr about fiddling with the 'tickler' to get a good
spark.

Harry K
E. Barry Bruyea - 01 Apr 2008 23:14 GMT
>> >But then I still am pissed that they moved the headlight dimmer switch to
>> >the turn signal stalk, instead of on the footrest where it belongs, also.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>sunny Sundays.  As long as I had something more modern for when it was
>lousy out.

I remember a couple of cars I had that had another button on the floor
that allowed you to change stations on the radio with your foot.
Avoided the need to either glance over at the radio or, in the case of
some cars now, look down at the steering wheel to press that button.
Everything new is not necessarily better.
Studemania - 06 Apr 2008 02:11 GMT
> On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:44:52 -0700 (PDT), "DanK...@gmail.com"
>
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My '57 Lincoln radio: 1) Knob, 2) Push buttons, 3) Signal Seeker -
City 4) Signal Seeker - country, 5) floor button connected to
whichever of the Signan Seeekrs was last used.
Dave - 01 Apr 2008 00:32 GMT
> You probably miss the crank starter too.  :-)

Nawwww... I've still got bruises from those damned things.  -Dave
Studemania - 01 Apr 2008 01:41 GMT
> > You probably miss the crank starter too.  :-)
>
> Nawwww... I've still got bruises from those damned things.  -Dave

Don't wrap your thumb around the crank.
(I gotta keep telling you damn kids.)
websurf1@cox.net - 04 Apr 2008 03:06 GMT
> >But then I still am pissed that they moved the headlight dimmer switch to
> >the turn signal stalk, instead of on the footrest where it belongs, also.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> You probably miss the crank starter too.  :-)

My folks had an Olds with an automatic radio tuner search button on
the floor, near the headlight dimmer.  It was no problem, except for
once when Dad loaned the car to someone who couldn't figure out why
the radio kept starting searches....

Floor dimmer switches are a problem if you have a clutch pedal and
have to hit 2 things at the same time.
Harry K - 04 Apr 2008 03:28 GMT
On Apr 3, 7:06 pm, websu...@cox.net wrote:

> > >But then I still am pissed that they moved the headlight dimmer switch to
> > >the turn signal stalk, instead of on the footrest where it belongs, also.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Floor dimmer switches are a problem if you have a clutch pedal and
> have to hit 2 things at the same time.

Then there are the various placements of the starter.  Back in the day
of the floor starter switch there could be a problem if you needed to
hit it and the gas pedal at teh same time.

Then Nash in ?48? put the starter switch _under_ the gas pedal.  You
had to floor the pedal to mash the switch.

Of cours then there was the stubborness of Ford keeping the switch on
the left of steering wheel long past when everyone else had it on the
right.

Harry K
Garth Almgren - 04 Apr 2008 04:06 GMT
>>> But then I still am pissed that they moved the headlight dimmer switch to
>>> the turn signal stalk, instead of on the footrest where it belongs, also.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Floor dimmer switches are a problem if you have a clutch pedal and
> have to hit 2 things at the same time.

On a related note, I noticed something interesting the last time I rode
a commuter transit bus: Turn signals and hazard lights are all operated
via good old fashioned heavy-duty foot switches.

The gas and brake pedals are under the right foot, and since buses are
automatics the left foot is free to operate the 3 foot switches: Left,
center for hazards, and right. They're arranged in a triangle shape, so
the driver can rest their foot between the three, pivot on their heel
slightly for left or right, or extend their ankle slightly for hazards.

It also explained how the bus drivers around here are so quick with a
couple "thank you" hazard blinks when you yield to them (as required by
state law).

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Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 01 Apr 2008 01:31 GMT
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> But then I still am pissed that they moved the headlight dimmer switch to
> the turn signal stalk, instead of on the footrest where it belongs, also.
> Now your left foot has nothing to do usually (even if you have a manual
> tranny) and your hands are too busy steering to operate the dimmer switch,
> because the dimmer switch is in the WRONG place.   -Dave

Blonde drivers get their foot caught in the steering wheel trying to dim
the headlights.

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Nate Nagel - 01 Apr 2008 02:36 GMT
>> Suppose all fuel fillers were on the same side of the car -- my first
>> choice is to put it on the right side (passenger side in  the USA) --
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> manual tranny) and your hands are too busy steering to operate the
> dimmer switch, because the dimmer switch is in the WRONG place.   -Dave

Forgot to mention in my last post but there's one *good* reason to mount
it on the stalk - ice.  If you ever lived in an area with real winter,
and wore boots a lot, if the floor of your car got real slushed up, if
you parked outside in the cold you might come back to find that you
needed to let the heater warm the car up a bit before you could flip
over to high beams.

Surprisingly, those switches did last longer than you'd expect, given
all the water and salt to which they were regularly subjected.  I've had
a few go bad, but all on very old cars.

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Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 01 Apr 2008 01:26 GMT
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> During busy times, all spots on the right sides of pumps would be filled
> even while most spots on the left sides of pumps remained empty.

Economics would take care of that. The gas on the left side would be
cheaper. ;-)

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DanKMTB@gmail.com - 01 Apr 2008 00:26 GMT
> [snip]
>
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> Do not interfere in the affairs of dragons,
> For you are crunchy and tasty with barbecue sauce.

If it split like that, the left wouldn't be able to buy any gas
regardless of the price because they'd have given all their money away
already.
Scott in SoCal - 01 Apr 2008 03:08 GMT
>Suppose fuel tanks were always on the driver's side of the car. Drivers
>would then have to park on the right side of an open pump in order to fill
>their tanks.

Gas caps should all be on the passenger's side.When it's on the
driver's side, the gas pumps, along with little poles, big concrete
planters, garbage cans, and all sorts of other sh.t, are naturally on
the same side as the driver's door. This makes it tougher to park,
because you now need to make sure that your door will open properly
without hitting anything. If the fill pipe is on the right side of the
car, you don't have to worry about it.

I remember the days when the fill pipe was behind the rear license
plate. This symmetrical placement made it equally easy to fill from
either side. Why don't they make cars like that anymore?
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Dave - 01 Apr 2008 12:58 GMT
.

> I remember the days when the fill pipe was behind the rear license
> plate. This symmetrical placement made it equally easy to fill from
> either side. Why don't they make cars like that anymore?
> --

Exactly!!!  At least someone agrees.  :)  -Dave
Harry K - 01 Apr 2008 16:41 GMT
> On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:36:05 -0000, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
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Don't forget about the ones hidden behind the tail light.  Chrysler
corp in the days of the big fins IIRC.

Harry K
Motorhead Lawyer - 01 Apr 2008 20:34 GMT
> Don't forget about the ones hidden behind the tail light.  Chrysler
> corp in the days of the big fins IIRC.

Actually, that was a typical GM trick.  Think mid-'50s Chevys &
Cadillacs.  Mopars were either on the fender or dead center under the
fold-down license plate.
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Studemania - 01 Apr 2008 21:32 GMT
> I remember the days when the fill pipe was behind the rear license
> plate. This symmetrical placement made it equally easy to fill from
> either side. Why don't they make cars like that anymore?
> --

I drive one of those and it's hard to get a seal with the polution
control gear the fillers of today have. I;ve poluted more from spilt
fuel than wat gasses would have leaked w/o the seal.
Nate Nagel - 02 Apr 2008 03:32 GMT
>>I remember the days when the fill pipe was behind the rear license
>>plate. This symmetrical placement made it equally easy to fill from
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> control gear the fillers of today have. I;ve poluted more from spilt
> fuel than wat gasses would have leaked w/o the seal.

And if you forget to put the gas cap on, the filler is so low that it
doesn't take much acceleration to slosh most of the gas out.  You
shoulda heard my dad trying hard not to cuss... (mid-70's, car was a '67
Cutlass)

nate

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Jim Yanik - 02 Apr 2008 13:50 GMT
>>>I remember the days when the fill pipe was behind the rear license
>>>plate. This symmetrical placement made it equally easy to fill from
>>>either side. Why don't they make cars like that anymore?

Because when those cars got rear-ended,gasoline often poured out of the
broken filler pipe,and fires started.
also,today's cars put the gas tank AHEAD of the rear axle for better crash
resistance.That would mean a longer and still vulnerable filler pipe.

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Shawn Hirn - 02 Apr 2008 10:20 GMT
> >Suppose fuel tanks were always on the driver's side of the car. Drivers
> >would then have to park on the right side of an open pump in order to fill
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> without hitting anything. If the fill pipe is on the right side of the
> car, you don't have to worry about it.

I disagree. I have been driving for about 30 years and most of my cars
have had the gas cap on the driver's side. I have never, not once, had a
problem pulling up to get gas because of it. I prefer the gas filling
cap on the driver's side for the simple reason that its easy for me to
stick my head out the window to verify that the cap is closed. If it was
on the passenger's side, I would not be able to verify it so easily.
Dave - 03 Apr 2008 09:40 GMT
> I disagree. I have been driving for about 30 years and most of my cars
> have had the gas cap on the driver's side. I have never, not once, had a
> problem pulling up to get gas because of it. I prefer the gas filling
> cap on the driver's side for the simple reason that its easy for me to
> stick my head out the window to verify that the cap is closed. If it was
> on the passenger's side, I would not be able to verify it so easily.

Every car I've driven, if you move your head over a little, you can see the fuel door in the outside mirror.  You might not be able to see it real clearly, but good enough to tell whether it's open or closed at least.  :)  -Dave
 
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