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Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big oil. Nor is obama, but all repugs are. > Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big oil. > Nor is obama, but all repugs are. http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/L/c/bush_abdullah_chaching.jpg any questions ? > any questions ? Yeh, why didn't the Repugs lower the federal gas tax during the six years they were in charge of congress and Bush was in the White House? Oh, and by the way, where is bin Laden? Bushkultie idiot won't learn English due to his hatred of America. > Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big oil. > Nor is obama, but all repugs are. When gas hit it's highest point the Republicans called him the worst president ever like the bunch of one-seded whiny pussy punks that they STILL ARE. Under Bush they think we should accept it and even like it, even though EVERYTHING is in a far far worse situation under und fuhurer Bush We never asked them to just accept anything except competence from the Democrats, heck they even bitch whine and moan over the Democrats competence. it defies logic Hey one-sided right wingers, here read all this then get back to whining about obama and clinton http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_evelyn_p_060427_big_mouth_bush_told_.htm On Apr 8, 10:08 pm, monkey_cartm...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big oil. > > Nor is obama, but all repugs are. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > it defies logic The repubs are desperate. They know Bush has been a huge failure but to admit that would be suicide so they just continue to lie and claim everything is great. > Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big oil. > Nor is obama, but all repugs are. Thought nancy pelosi was supposed to lower it, back when it was $2.50? and what is the Democrat's plan? Raise taxes on gas? How will that lower one price? "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in news:47fc4c7b$0$19787 $d94e5ade@news.iglou.com: >> Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big oil. >> Nor is obama, but all repugs are. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and what is the Democrat's plan? Raise taxes on gas? How will that > lower one price? Because taxes will raise the price and no one will be able to buy it (except limo Liberals, of course). Demand will go down and the price will go down, too. Of course, when it does, we'll all start using it again and the problem will return. Libs don't seem to realize that solving a problem by raising taxes is a temporary cure at best. But in the meantime, they get more tax money! That's all they see.  Signature"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass... it's about learning to dance in the rain." > "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in news:47fc4c7b$0$19787 > $d94e5ade@news.iglou.com: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > more > tax money! That's all they see. and they want to punish the evil rich for making the right decisions in life and in the end, those taxes hurt the little guy more. > "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in news:47fc4c7b$0$19787 > $d94e5ade@news.iglou.com: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > raising taxes is a temporary cure at best. But in the meantime, they get more > tax money! That's all they see. Why didn't Bush and his Republican friends in congress lower the gas tax during the six years they had before the Dems got control of congress? Who was one of the biggest supporters of the current federal gas tax? Yup, Bob Dole, a Republican and former candidate for president. You Repugs sure don't like to let facts enter your little warped reality. Shawn Hirn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in news:srhi-CC156C.07172809042008 @newsgroups.comcast.net: >> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in news:47fc4c7b$0$19787 >> $d94e5ade@news.iglou.com: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Why didn't Bush and his Republican friends in congress lower the gas tax > during the six years they had before the Dems got control of congress? Because they're greedy politicians, just like the Dems who took their place. > Who was one of the biggest supporters of the current federal gas tax? > Yup, Bob Dole, a Republican and former candidate for president. You > Repugs sure don't like to let facts enter your little warped reality. I was answering a question about why raising taxes would lower gas prices, partisan hack. Are you saying I'm wrong, or are you just here to insult "Repugs" no matter what the topic or who you're talking to? Signature"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass... it's about learning to dance in the rain." > Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net> wrote in news:srhi-CC156C.07172809042008 > @newsgroups.comcast.net: Jim, Just let me know when your Republican friends are going to start pupming some of that oil out of Iraq they promised would cover the cost of the war in ...........................................................2003. Forget it. Let's just hope Cheney will save things by having more secret meetingts with the oil executives. That worked really well. I guess they are still working the kinks out. Maybe Cheney can save us with all the money he has made from his war and oil services company Haliburton. I know Jim. His money is in a trust he doesn't control. But when Haliburton's stock goes from 2 to 80 dollars those stock options he doesn't control get mighty valuable. I wonder how they keep getting those billion dollar contracts when almost every report on thier work from the Army says it is crap. Amazing isn't it. the whole economy is going down the crapper. Even GE said this week they are hurting. So the only 2 industries making boatloads of cash are the 2 that the President and Vice President are involved in. Crazy. The longer this war goes on the more money they make. Such stand up guys. topset72 topset72@gmail.com wrote in news:6042c8ee-d9f1-4909-93a4-fb137f35d062 @y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com: >> Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net> wrote in news:srhi-CC156C.07172809042008 >> @newsgroups.comcast.net: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > cost of the war > in ...........................................................2003. Next time I get invited to a staff meeting at the White House, I'll try to work it into the conversation that you don't want to pay $4 a gallon and could they please move the effort along? Could we stop focusing on the terrorists trying to kill us and the women and children in Iraq and get the oil flowing? > Forget it. Let's just hope Cheney will save things by having more > secret meetingts with the oil executives. Maybe he should devote more time to secrecy, since you seem to know about these 'secret meetings.' > That worked really well. I guess they are still working the kinks out. > > Maybe Cheney can save us with all the money he has made from his war > and oil services company Haliburton. I know Jim. His money is in a > trust he doesn't control. You know this, but you still want to keep the lie alive, right? > But when Haliburton's stock goes from 2 to > 80 dollars those stock options he doesn't control get mighty > valuable. What options? Can you give me a rundown of Cheney's portfolio? Please cite your sources. > I wonder how they keep getting those billion dollar > contracts Probably the same way they got them from the Clinton administration. > ...when almost every report on thier work from the Army says it > is crap. He said without a single grain of proof. > Amazing isn't it. the whole economy is going down the crapper. No, it isn't. > Even GE said this week they are hurting. Even GE? What immunity did they have? > So the only 2 industries making boatloads of cash are the 2 that the > President and Vice President are involved in. Crazy. The longer this > war goes on the more money they make. Wow. The entire economy is in the sh.tter except for oil and Halliburton? What a broker you'd make! > Such stand up guys. Yeah. You hate them. WE GET IT ALREADY!!!!!! Signature"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass... it's about learning to dance in the rain." >On Apr 9, 7:31 am, Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote [something]: >Jim, > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >topset72 Superb. >> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in news:47fc4c7b$0$19787 >> $d94e5ade@news.iglou.com: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Yup, Bob Dole, a Republican and former candidate for president. You > Repugs sure don't like to let facts enter your little warped reality. and thus you skim the answer and don't even know it. GOVERNMENTS DON'T HELP LOWER PRICES, SUPPLY AND DEMAND DOES!!!!! It's a economics matter. It's a matter of the oil spigot being controled by a few towelheads and weird beards in the middle east and other dictators in south america. If we could drill for our own oil, the price would drop like a rock. But our friends, the democrats, won't allow it because it MIGHT hurt animals. The libs better make a choice, it's either we drill or we just take it. What do you choose. "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in news:47fcabd9$0$19781 $d94e5ade@news.iglou.com: >>> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in news:47fc4c7b$0$19787 >>> $d94e5ade@news.iglou.com: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > If we could drill for our own oil, the price would drop like a rock. But > our friends, the democrats, won't allow it because it MIGHT hurt animals. That can't really be their reason for protesting ANWR drilling. I know they say that, but they have to know they're lying. A section of ANWR was set aside for the express purpose of drilling and there are no animals there to harm. The Dems know this and purposely show pictures of moose and squirrel frolicking around lakes and streams. That can't be an accident. > The libs better make a choice, it's either we drill or we just take it. > What do you choose. Signature"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass... it's about learning to dance in the rain." "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47fcabd9$0$19781 > GOVERNMENTS DON'T HELP LOWER PRICES, SUPPLY AND DEMAND DOES!!!!! It's a > economics matter. Right so far, it is all supply chain economics. Any choking of the supply leads to higher prices,which leads to more profits. One of the biggest bottlenecks are the refineries. Why haven't there been any more built - why would an oil company that profits from an artificial bottleneck want to remove that bottle neck and give up it's profitability? The USA controls Iraq's oil fields so where is that oil? We have CUT production in Iraq! Why? Because they have the second largest oil deposits in the world, if we started pumping it would hurt the oil companies profitability and since they own the republican party, republicans will do anything to keep the oil companies profitable. It's a matter of the oil spigot being controled by a few > towelheads and weird beards in the middle east and other dictators in > south america. AMERICA controls the spigots in Iraq! In Venezuela the oil wells are nationalized - so they have cut out american oil companies - that is the ONLY reason Chavez keeps getting bad-mouthed by the republicans! > If we could drill for our own oil, the price would drop like a rock. > But our friends, the democrats, won't allow it because it MIGHT hurt > animals. The libs better make a choice, it's either we drill or we just > take it. What do you choose. If the money spent in Iraq, had been spent on solar power instead, all houses in the USA would be solarized, thus cutting the consumption of oil! > "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47fcabd9$0$19781 > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > companies profitability and since they own the republican party, > republicans will do anything to keep the oil companies profitable. This "We did it for oil" bullshit again? Do you libs ever get tired of that lie? Iraq controls those fields. They should repay us with oil for the blood and treasure we have lost defending them. > It's a matter of the oil spigot being controled by a few >> towelheads and weird beards in the middle east and other dictators in [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > If the money spent in Iraq, had been spent on solar power instead, all > houses in the USA would be solarized, thus cutting the consumption of oil! > > "syvyn11" <robhorine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47fcabd9$0$19781 > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I believe that the administration is long since past the claim that Iraqi oil will pay for the Bush invasion and occupation. Why do you bring up stuff that even Fox News finds too dishonest to report? I don;t think that Bush did it for oil. He did it for lack of oil. His invasion has cut off Iraqi oil from the market and destabilized the region. Every time that the price of oil starts to go down, Bush rachets up tensions with Iran and Venezuella. His actions are having the affect that he intends. He isn't nearly as stupid as he looks. Unfortunately for the Republicans, neither are most Americans. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bumperstickers http://www.cafepress.com/bush_doggers?pid=2794571 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bumperstickers http://www.cafepress.com/bush_doggers?pid=2794571 >>> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in news:47fc4c7b$0$19787 >>> $d94e5ade@news.iglou.com: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > animals. The libs better make a choice, it's either we drill or we just > take it. What do you choose. What a crock of f.cking bullshit. Bush can dump our strategic reseerves that OUR f.cking TAXES pay for at any second. Bush can stop the war. Bush can nuke Saudi Arabia. Bush is a c.nt. >>>> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in news:47fc4c7b$0$19787 >>>> $d94e5ade@news.iglou.com: [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > that OUR f.cking TAXES pay for at any second. Bush can stop the war. > Bush can nuke Saudi Arabia. Bush is a c.nt. The 'strategic reserves' play again? It would change the price for about one or two days, a drop in the bucket. That oil is for a f.cking EMERGENCY!!!!!! And that's not a real solution, drilling for our own oil is! In article <47fced7f$0$19835$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. . > And that's not a real solution, drilling for our own > oil is! As he drives around in a 15 MPG vehicle. yeah, and with clinton the us was running a surplus, under the incompetent fool and his $4 trillion dollar "get saddam" wet dream, the us dollar is worth less than the canadian dollar....and we're so far in debt your grand kids, grand kids will still be paying it off.... bush = a walking turd.... > yeah, and with clinton the us was running a surplus, under the incompetent > fool and his $4 trillion dollar "get saddam" wet dream, the us dollar is > worth less than the canadian dollar....and we're so far in debt your grand > kids, grand kids will still be paying it off.... > > bush = a walking turd.... what you need is to place your head and teeth on a curb, and then someone stomp on the head, breaking all your teeth. I hate traitors like you! >> yeah, and with clinton the us was running a surplus, under the >> incompetent fool and his $4 trillion dollar "get saddam" wet dream, the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > what you need is to place your head and teeth on a curb, and then someone > stomp on the head, breaking all your teeth. I hate traitors like you! Settle down dipshit. Duhbya's a moron and everyone knows it....excepting you, of course. > In article <47fced7f$0$19835$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 > @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > As he drives around in a 15 MPG vehicle. actaully, I walk or take a bus. I don't have a car. But thanks for thinking that you know everything. > In article <Xns9A7B261D8D54Cjimaldersssnetcom@216.196.97.142>, > Why didn't Bush and his Republican friends in congress lower the gas tax > during the six years they had before the Dems got control of congress? Why do RATS want to INCREASE Gas taxes now you f.cking inbred maggot ? Congressman John Dingell Proposes 50-cent Gas Tax Hike to Fight Global Warming WASHINGTON - Dealing with global warming will be painful, says one of the most powerful Democrats in Congress. To back up his claim he is proposing a recipe many people won't like - a 50-cent gasoline tax, a carbon tax and scaling back tax breaks for some home owners > "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in news:47fc4c7b$0$19787 > $d94e5ade@news.iglou.com: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > more > tax money! That's all they see. That's right, Reds. All us 'libs' have limos. Tell me about how many limos Bush has? Cheney? Schwartzenegger? Limbaugh? O'Reilly? How many you feces burning punk? >> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in news:47fc4c7b$0$19787 >> $d94e5ade@news.iglou.com: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Bush has? Cheney? Schwartzenegger? Limbaugh? O'Reilly? How many you > feces burning punk? Way to focus on the point, psycho. "Feces burning"? Anyone? Signature"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass... it's about learning to dance in the rain." On Apr 9, 10:24 am, "Bush Patraed Us" <Hanoi Radio McC...@maverickcocksucker.net> wrote: > > "syvyn11" <robhorine...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:47fc4c7b$0$19787 > > $d94e5...@news.iglou.com: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Schwartzenegger doesn't have a limo. He has a Hummer that gets 4 miles to the gallon. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bumperstickers http://www.cafepress.com/bush_doggers?pid=2794571 Tammy Bumpers <BuffyToU@yahoo.com> wrote in news:60f97662-d8d4-4598-aa55- 9f878e333721@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com: > On Apr 9, 10:24 am, "Bush Patraed Us" <Hanoi Radio > McC...@maverickcocksucker.net> wrote: >> >> > "syvyn11" <robhorine...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:47fc4c7b$0$19787 $d94e5...@news.iglou.com: >> >> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:Xns9A7ADBA709474riemann1850yahoocom@216.168.3.70... >> >>> Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big oil. >> >>> Nor is obama, but all repugs are. >> >> >> Thought nancy pelosi was supposed to lower it, back when it was $2.50? >> >> >> and what is the Democrat's plan? Raise taxes on gas? How will that lower one price? >> > Because taxes will raise the price and no one will be able to buy it >> > (except limo Liberals, of course). Demand will go down and the price will go >> > down, too. Of course, when it does, we'll all start using it again and the >> > problem will return. Libs don't seem to realize that solving a problem by >> > raising taxes is a temporary cure at best. But in the meantime, they get more tax money! That's all they see. >> That's right, Reds. All us 'libs' have limos. Tell me about how many limosBushhas? Cheney? Schwartzenegger? Limbaugh? O'Reilly? How many you >> feces burning punk?- Hide quoted text - [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Schwartzenegger doesn't have a limo. He has a Hummer that gets 4 miles > to the gallon. John Kerry doesn't have ANY SUVs. His FAMILY owns them! Signature"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass... it's about learning to dance in the rain." > John Kerry doesn't have ANY SUVs. His FAMILY owns them! And your lying, coke-addled sack of sh.t "OWNS" the the single most stupid military and foriegn policy blunder in history. >=================================================================================== On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:53:38 -0500, "Peter Principle" petesfeats@CUTITOUTgmail.com> Hiliarously and truthfully wrote to Pajamaturd: >Apparently you cannot comprehend the simple fact, simpleton, that there's >not one user here - not one - who doesn't know that you are the real >rightard racist sh.t licker, no matter how much you stridently bleat and >whine to the contrary. In fact, moron, the more you whine, the more clear it >becomes. >Get a hobby, moron. For you, picking lint out of your navel could provide >endless hours of fascination... > > Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big oil. > > Nor is obama, but all repugs are. > > Thought nancy pelosi was supposed to lower it, back when it was $2.50? > and what is the Democrat's plan? Raise taxes on gas? How will that > lower one price? When did Pelosi ever say she would lower gas prices? Since when does congress deal with foreign trade; that's the province of the president? > > > Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big oil. > > > Nor is obama, but all repugs are. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > When did Pelosi ever say she would lower gas prices? Yeah everyone knows Rats want to RAISE gas prices with new TAXES on Gas as usual./ Congressman John Dingell Proposes 50-cent Gas Tax Hike to Fight Global Warming WASHINGTON - Dealing with global warming will be painful, says one of the most powerful Democrats in Congress. To back up his claim he is proposing a recipe many people won't like - a 50-cent gasoline tax, a carbon tax and scaling back tax breaks for some home owners >> Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big oil. >> Nor is obama, but all repugs are. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >and what is the Democrat's plan? Raise taxes on gas? How will that >lower one price? The Democrats plan is the same as ever. Raise taxes and impose new restrictions on everything. It's never worked before, but the Republicans have f.cked things up so bad it they'll likely get a chance to try it again. SignatureThere's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. > Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big oil. > Nor is obama, but all repugs are. Evidence? >> Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big oil. >> Nor is obama, but all repugs are. > > Evidence? If you were hit in the head with a hammer, what evidence would you have that it hurt? Now try hitting yourself with the hammer. don't come back with the results. > > Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big oil. > > Nor is obama, but all repugs are. > > Evidence? Hey stupid f.ck You will find the evidence next time you fill up "Nuff siaid. http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/CO/M > "Nuff siaid. > > http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/CO/M And why do you think the price of oil has ANYTHING to do with one person ? You sound like a simpleton. Graham > "Nuff siaid. > > http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/CO/M Gee think there is a correlation? http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/US/M Nuff said! > Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big oil. > Nor is obama, but all repugs are. What's wrong with big oil? As for that matter, what's wrong with big business? Corperations run things better than any state or federal goverment. If we ran America like a forturn 500 firm, we would be so much better. Big biz isn't the problem, big goverment is! >> Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big >> oil. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Corperations run things better than any state or federal goverment. If > we ran America like a forturn 500 firm, we would be so much better. LOL - take a look at the banking industry - the only reason thier fuckups are not dragging the whole world down is a government bail out. S&L crisis - same thing Enron - fleese the people take the money and run Out source the military, send them 10 billion in cash to rebuild Iraq and the money simply disappears. Oh ya, corporations run soooo much better than government. > Big biz isn't the problem, big goverment is! >>> Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big >>> oil. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >> Big biz isn't the problem, big goverment is! you list two. So many other corperations run above board, doesn't get in trouble, serve their fellow man, and contribute the society better than any goverment program. If we ran the country more like wal-mart, we would be much better off. >>>> Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big >>>> oil. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > If we ran the country more like wal-mart, we would be much better off. Then move to China. >>>>> Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big >>>>> oil. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Then move to China. Why don't you die? >>>>>> Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big >>>>>> oil. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Why don't you die? He's right, of course. Big business is more like a dictatorship or a kingship than a democracy. A king has his aristocrats (board of directors) that he has to deal with, but the peasants don't count for squat, unless the king decides to throw them some soppy little pittance to placate their yammering. Same in a dictatorship like China. Do you want the freedom and messiness of democracy or the tidiness of a dictatorship at the cost of freedom? Signature"Forget it, Jake. It's the Internet." >>>> Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big >>>> oil. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > If we ran the country more like wal-mart, we would be much better off. Simple fact American corporations only worry about THIS QUARTERS numbers. If they lay off 10,000 people and it make the numbers look better for the quarter, all the board members get a big bonus. But now the company looses more business, their number look worse, they layoff another 20,000 peoples and the number look good again, all the board members get big bonuses. But now because they have laid off all of their engineers, they have no future. All they can do now it outsource everything and the American corporation is now hiring all foreigner - except of course the board members.... If the country was run like Wal-Mart, no one would have health insurance or retirement benefits and the majority of jobs would be in China. You righties really hate America don't you! In article <47fcc052$0$19857$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. . > >>> Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big > >>> oil. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > trouble, serve their fellow man, and contribute the society better than any > goverment program. You mean like the health insurance industry? lol > If we ran the country more like wal-mart, we would be much better off. And you would still be sweeping the floors there. > In article <47fcc052$0$19857$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 > @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > And you would still be sweeping the floors there. and you think bigger goverment is better goverment, and you are wrong. >> In article <47fcc052$0$19857$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 >> @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > and you think bigger goverment is better goverment, and you are wrong. We didn't arrive at a record deficit because Duhbya reduced government spending. >>> In article <47fcc052$0$19857$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 >>> @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > We didn't arrive at a record deficit because Duhbya reduced government > spending. That has nothing to do with this converstation. The fact remains that dems like to grow goverment. They like to tax and spend, like to punish job creators and like to involve themselves in YOUR LIFE! >>>> In article <47fcc052$0$19857$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 >>>> @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > That has nothing to do with this converstation. The fact remains that > dems like to grow goverment. Name one program the Republicans ended between 2003 and 2007. They like to tax and spend, like to > punish job creators and like to involve themselves in YOUR LIFE! Which administration has the largest deficit ever. Who had the previous record? Which administration opposed assisted suicide and medical pot? > >>> In article <47fcc052$0$19857$d94e5...@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 > >>> @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > - Show quoted text - True...but the GOP simply wants to put your life under surveillance. On Apr 13, 9:01 pm, "syvyn11" <robhorine...@yahoo.com> wrote: > "Jorge W. Arbusto, Prezidentchul Candydate" > <Cleanin'_The_Stab...@fakeranch.tx> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > - Show quoted text - True...but the GOP simply wants to put your life under surveillance. hope they have you under surveillance and find that kiddie porn you download. They'll love you in prison. >>>> In article <47fcc052$0$19857$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 >>>> @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > dems like to grow goverment. They like to tax and spend, like to punish > job creators and like to involve themselves in YOUR LIFE! Pull your head out of your a.s and quit believing the rhetoric: http://angrybear.blogspot.com/2007/06/comparing-presidents-size-of-government.html Reagan, GH Bush, and GW Bush have grown government more than most democrats. >>>>> In article <47fcc052$0$19857$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 >>>>> @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > Reagan, GH Bush, and GW Bush have grown government more than most > democrats. and all pale in comparison when Hillary or Obama create UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE! >>>> In article <47fcc052$0$19857$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 >>>> @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > dems like to grow goverment. They like to tax and spend, like to > punish job creators and like to involve themselves in YOUR LIFE! I'm no fan of Democrats, but how is this different from the administration of George W Bush, or for that matter, George H W Bush? >>>>> In article <47fcc052$0$19857$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 >>>>> @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > I'm no fan of Democrats, but how is this different from the administration > of George W Bush, or for that matter, George H W Bush? That's why we need STRONG conservatives in congress. In article <4802d014$0$19847$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. . > > I'm no fan of Democrats, but how is this different from the administration > > of George W Bush, or for that matter, George H W Bush? > > That's why we need STRONG conservatives in congress. You mean like McSame???? Bwhuhahahaha!!! What a moron. > In article <4802d014$0$19847$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 > @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > You mean like McSame???? No, I said REAL CONSERVATIVES, McQueeg is one of your liberals. It was you democrats that gave us McCain. With all the primaries early that allowed dems to vote for republicans, enough libs helped out the moderates to give us the worst choice for president in decades. saddly the best case is for obama to win. In two years it would be a republican victory during the mid=terms, then obama would lose in 2012. I just hope the damage that f.cking idiot would cause isn't that great. > Bwhuhahahaha!!! What a moron. >>> We didn't arrive at a record deficit because Duhbya reduced government >>> spending. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I'm no fan of Democrats, but how is this different from the >administration of George W Bush, or for that matter, George H W Bush? Quite simple Hartung The regulations, programs and policies that conservatives push benefit only those who already have wealth and power. The mantra: "we want government off your backs..." is NOT what it seems---it's a veiled attempt at stopping the use of money and power to practice racism, homophobia, and greed---legally (by getting rid of the laws that prevent discrimination, segregation, and unlimited accumulation of wealth) OTOH, the "redistribution" of weath from the "top" down allows a greater benefit to ALL in any society---and that has historically been to our benefit. You can see the evidence of amassing wealth to fewer and fewer people by the european model of concentration of wealth and it's consequences over the centuries----AND---you can pick up most any AMerican Hitory book and read the disastrous results of that kind of economics at the turn of the 20th century and the horrible problems caused by Reganomics and Bushnomics we have today. >>>> We didn't arrive at a record deficit because Duhbya reduced government >>>> spending. Something that does not seem to have been pointed out, and that is that No administration in the past thirty years has actually reduced government spending. >>> That has nothing to do with this converstation. The fact remains that >>> dems like to grow goverment. They like to tax and spend, like to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > conservatives push benefit only those who already have > wealth and power. Such as "No Child Left Behind"? > The mantra: "we want government off your backs..." is > NOT what it seems---it's a veiled attempt at stopping > the use of money and power to practice racism, > homophobia, and greed---legally (by getting rid of the > laws that prevent discrimination, segregation, and > unlimited accumulation of wealth) You can support this claim? > OTOH, the "redistribution" of weath from the "top" down > allows a greater benefit to ALL in any society---and > that has historically been to our benefit. Those who don't "have", always want to take from those who "have". That, however, doesn't make it right. > You can see the evidence of amassing wealth to fewer > and fewer people by the european model of concentration [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the horrible problems caused by Reganomics and > Bushnomics we have today. Some examples would be helpful. >>>>> We didn't arrive at a record deficit because Duhbya reduced government >>>>> spending. > >Something that does not seem to have been pointed out, and that is that >No administration in the past thirty years has actually reduced >government spending. Clinton did. One of the hallmarks of the Clinton era was the abandonment of some programs to offsent the spending caused by others. Clinton had NO votes from the GOP. >> The regulations, programs and policies that >> conservatives push benefit only those who already have >> wealth and power. > >Such as "No Child Left Behind"? It's a thinly veiled attempt at introducing public funds to private and religious schools--- It's also hated by every major Educational institution imaginable. >> The mantra: "we want government off your backs..." is >> NOT what it seems---it's a veiled attempt at stopping [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >You can support this claim? I (once again) point you to PUBLIC news, and the passage of those relevant laws, recinding regulations dealing with discrimination, and the lack of enforcement by Justice dept (any meaningful prosecution) thereof. I'm not giving you secret facts, you singlebat moron--It's all public YOUR problem is that: a) you listen to, and believe propaganda from your politcal ideologues, b) you have'nt shown ANY ability to absorb PUBLIC record and make rational assesments of what you hear or read. >> OTOH, the "redistribution" of weath from the "top" down >> allows a greater benefit to ALL in any society---and >> that has historically been to our benefit. > >Those who don't "have", always want to take from those who "have". That, >however, doesn't make it right. Yes it does. It's not only "biblically" justifiable, but the history of Society and civilizations have provided a dismal record of what happens when wealth does NOT get "redistributed". >> You can see the evidence of amassing wealth to fewer >> and fewer people by the european model of concentration [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Some examples would be helpful. Christ, what a f.cking dingbat you are. Didn't you EVER receive a standard Education? >============================================================== >"Because of Reagan's economic policies---most of which were >Solidly endorsed by (a GOP) congress---wealth in the US was being [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >----A History of the United States; A people and a Nation" > 4th Edition In article <480180f9$0$19798$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. . > > In article <47fcc052$0$19857$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 > > @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > and you think bigger goverment is better goverment, and you are wrong. You are a dittohead, don't lecture me on bigger government. Here's a list that Rush wouldn't talk so much about (thus something you are completely unaware of): 1-war on drugs = Bigger, more intrusive government 2-Patriot Act = Bigger, more intrusive government 3-flag burning amendment = Bigger, more intrusive government 4-anti-abortion = Bigger, more intrusive government 5-censorship = Bigger, more intrusive government 6-death penalty = Bigger, more intrusive government 7-Homosexual Discrimination Amendment = Bigger, more intrusive government 8-anti-prostitution = Bigger, more intrusive government 9-anti medical pot = Bigger, more intrusive government 10-anti assisted suicide = Bigger, more intrusive government 11-three strikes = Bigger, more intrusive government 12-mandatory minimums = Bigger, more intrusive government 13-anti immigration = Bigger, more intrusive government 14-mad mothers = Bigger, more intrusive government 15-rejection of separation church/state = Bigger, more intrusive government 16-bloated military = Bigger, more intrusive government 17-starting needless wars = Bigger, more intrusive government 18-torture at secret prisons = Bigger, more intrusive government 19-government wiretapping = Bigger, more intrusive government Bigger government is nearly the entire Pub platform, Bubs. > In article <480180f9$0$19798$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 > @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > > Bigger government is nearly the entire Pub platform, Bubs. and the deed is done! 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"The total number of the companies and consortia that participated in the prequalification process was 120 from various nationalities," said the ministry's petroleum contracts and licensing office. The office listed 35 companies that it said were qualified. They include, among others, BP PLC, Chevron Corp., Exxon Mobil Corp., Royal Dutch Shell PLC, Lukoil Holdings, China National Petroleum Corp., Edison International SpA and Eni SpA. The contracts office, however, said it would continue updating the process of qualifying companies "especially those that didn't pass (the qualification process) by updating their information with the view to allowing as many as possible of the IOCs to participate in the next licensing round." SignatureMoney.. what a concept > In article <480180f9$0$19798$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com>, robhorine711 > @yahoo.com syvyn11 wisdom.. [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > 1-war on drugs = Bigger, more intrusive government > 2-Patriot Act = Bigger, more intrusive government To defend this country, but since you love the terrorist, that's why you want it destroyed. > 3-flag burning amendment = Bigger, more intrusive government I think you should be able to burn the flag. > 4-anti-abortion = Bigger, more intrusive government How? Because you say so? > 5-censorship = Bigger, more intrusive government I think the fcc should be abolished, Too bad that dems want them to run the reborned UnFairness Doctrine. > 6-death penalty = Bigger, more intrusive government Only because liberal lawyers clog up the court system with endless appeals and other inane motions. > 7-Homosexual Discrimination Amendment = Bigger, more intrusive > government can you post this one? Cause it's bullshit! > 8-anti-prostitution = Bigger, more intrusive government 'Local cops, not federal > 9-anti medical pot = Bigger, more intrusive government > 10-anti assisted suicide = Bigger, more intrusive government Both were crimes for decades. > 11-three strikes = Bigger, more intrusive government Talk to the states > 12-mandatory minimums = Bigger, more intrusive government Wha? Explain, if you can. > 13-anti immigration = Bigger, more intrusive government Yes, let all the aliens in! Don't defend the borders. > 14-mad mothers = Bigger, more intrusive government Thought they were a private orginazation, not a goverment org. You must confuse them with Cuba's reveloutionary scouts. Where all children must join. > 15-rejection of separation church/state = Bigger, more intrusive > government Wha? > 16-bloated military = Bigger, more intrusive government again, you don't want to defend america. > 17-starting needless wars = Bigger, more intrusive government Every one of the shooting wars in the world have muslims involved on one side or the other. About 100 of them at this time. > 18-torture at secret prisons = Bigger, more intrusive government Where are these prisons? And I hope you get tortured soon, faggot. > 19-government wiretapping = Bigger, more intrusive government I hope Bush listens in on your calls. But it's not american citizens being listened on. > Bigger government is nearly the entire Pub platform, Bubs. And HOW WILL DEMOCRATS SHRINK GOVERMENT!!!!!! More and more republicans are realizing that people don't want goverment growing. That why we are getting rid of the Rinos, too bad you stuck us with the ultimate rino as our candidate for president. > > Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big oil. > > Nor is obama, but all repugs are. > > What's wrong with big oil? As for that matter, what's wrong with big > business? Because they are f.cking you in the a.s, stupid f.ck, and all you can say is more On Apr 8, 11:35 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Difference is that Clinton, for all his faults, was not a tool of big oil. > Nor is obama, but all repugs are. Your stupidity is yet again demonstrated by believing that the president has control over oil prices. > Your stupidity is yet again demonstrated by believing that the > president has control over oil prices. HAHAHA. Oh yeah - bush has nothing to do with the oil industry does he? HAHA >On Apr 8, 11:35 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" ><xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Your stupidity is yet again demonstrated by believing that the >president has control over oil prices. In 1995 Blill Clinton vetoed oil exploration in ANWR, sneering that it wouldn't do any good because the oil wouldn't start flowing for 10 years. 1995 + 10 years = 2005, just when prices started going through the roof. Thanks, Legacy-Boy. -- The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones. The government doesnt owe America low gas prices. Its supply and demand. Even with the ever-increasing U.S. population, gas prices are still low compared to many other countries. Instead of blaming it on government, why dont Americans take responsibility and should reduce their OWN oil dependency!! > The government doesnt owe America low gas prices. Its supply and > demand. And Bush's war took Iraqi oil offline, tightening supply, and *that* drove up prices. Even with the ever-increasing U.S. population, gas prices are > still low compared to many other countries. Instead of blaming it on > government, why dont Americans take responsibility and should reduce > their OWN oil dependency!! Signature"Forget it, Jake. It's the Internet." |
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