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Canada Cops Now Taser Train-Fare Cheaters

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 16 Apr 2008 18:05 GMT
It's not just america.  The whole continent is now a police state.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/04/15/bc-transit-
police-taser.html

B.C. transit police stun fare cheaters with Taser: documents
Last Updated: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 | 11:55 PM ET Comments89Recommend51
CBC News

Transit police on SkyTrain stations in Metro Vancouver have used Taser stun
guns on passengers who didn't pay the fare and tried to run away, CBC News
has learned.

   Transit police in Metro Vancouver are allowed to deploy a Taser when
the situation demands control over a 'non-compliant, suicidal, potentially
violent or violent individual.'Transit police in Metro Vancouver are
allowed to deploy a Taser when the situation demands control over a 'non-
compliant, suicidal, potentially violent or violent individual.'
 
Transit police have fired Tasers 10 times since January last year, and
three cases involved non-violent suspects, according to internal police
reports obtained by CBC News using access to information laws.

In one case, a person ran from transit cops during a check for free-riders
and "the Taser was deployed as the subject fled," the documents say.
Another person who didn't pay the fare was arrested but "grabbed onto the
platform railing and refused to let go … the Taser was deployed."

(snip)
Rob Derhak - 16 Apr 2008 19:17 GMT
> It's not just america.  The whole continent is now a police state.
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/04/15/bc-transit-
> police-taser.html

Break the law, get shot or tasered.

What's yer Problem, you drunken slut?
necromancer - 16 Apr 2008 20:36 GMT
>SFB spewed:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>What's yer Problem, you drunken slut?

SFB thinks that only certain laws should be enforced.

--
S&DDAM admits to being drunk and to possible drunk driving by way of
a sentence with the poor grammar of the double negative:

"I ain't not never been drunk none in my life. "

--Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS," a.k.a. LBMHB, lb-VH,
Pride of America, aunt millie, Judy Diariya etc...
    May 1, 2007, 1331 hrs EDT

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jerry warner - 17 Apr 2008 04:48 GMT
> > It's not just america.  The whole continent is now a police state.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> What's yer Problem, you drunken slut?

Then shoot your dick and your monkey!
necromancer - 16 Apr 2008 20:35 GMT
SFB spewed:

>It's not just america.  The whole continent is now a police state.
>
>http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/04/15/bc-transit-
>police-taser.html

This from an a.shole who thinks its OK to tazer traffic, "violators."

>B.C. transit police stun fare cheaters with Taser: documents
>Last Updated: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 | 11:55 PM ET Comments89Recommend51
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>guns on passengers who didn't pay the fare and tried to run away, CBC News
>has learned.

Key words, "tried to run away," and from a little farther down in the
article, "Transit police in Metro Vancouver are allowed to deploy a
Taser when the situation demands control over a 'non-compliant,
suicidal, potentially violent or violent individual.' " But don't let
a fundamental thing like comprehending what you read get in your way,
you stupid american (sic).

OBTW, SFB, since Canada sits on the North American Continent (just
like the US! Go fugure...), that means that Canada has just as much
right to claim use of the term, "american," as the US does.

Oh, yeah, where's my €2.51 gas, you fuckwit. I'm still waiting for it;
that €2.20 crap is making my car run bad.

--
Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS demonstrates its
Bartlo quality forecasting abilities:

"At least they did where i live.  It'll be $3 by
turkey day and $4 by
Xmas as exxon tries to make
up for the money they lost lowering prices to
help their bud Bush."

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Brent P - 16 Apr 2008 21:02 GMT
>Key words, "tried to run away," and from a little farther down in the
>article, "Transit police in Metro Vancouver are allowed to deploy a
>Taser when the situation demands control over a 'non-compliant,
>suicidal, potentially violent or violent individual.'"

How long before we are all wearing taser collars (or some other device
is employed to the same ends) so the 'authorities' can deal with anyone
who becomes 'non-compliant' easily and trouble free?

There's where the slope is currently heading, maybe it won't get there.
But unlike 'global warming' it's going to take one hell of an input to
knock things off their present course.
zzbunker@netscape.net - 16 Apr 2008 21:20 GMT
On Apr 16, 4:02 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P)
wrote:
> In article <3hkc045k44func46d9kpjhqjo5b6svt...@4ax.com>, necromancer wrote:
> >Key words, "tried to run away," and from a little farther down in the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> is employed to the same ends) so the 'authorities' can deal with anyone
> who becomes 'non-compliant' easily and trouble free?

  They pretty much already do that, with their idiot national I.D.
cards
  which is mostly why people invented things like GPS and laser-
guided
  bombs for the asswipes.

> There's where the slope is currently heading, maybe it won't get there.
> But unlike 'global warming' it's going to take one hell of an input to
> knock things off their present course.
Topp@Work - 16 Apr 2008 22:22 GMT
> >Key words, "tried to run away," and from a little farther down in the
> >article, "Transit police in Metro Vancouver are allowed to deploy a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> is employed to the same ends) so the 'authorities' can deal with anyone
> who becomes 'non-compliant' easily and trouble free?

Never as long as Free Men own Guns.
Brent P - 17 Apr 2008 00:11 GMT
>> In article <3hkc045k44func46d9kpjhqjo5b6svt99k@4ax.com>, necromancer
>wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Never as long as Free Men own Guns.

That might be in the not-so-distant future. A few more mass shootings
where the victims are all disarmed and who knows....
Rob Derhak - 16 Apr 2008 21:13 GMT
> SFB spewed:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> This from an a.shole who thinks its OK to tazer traffic, "violators."

I believe it's PEREFECTLY "OK" to tazer anybody who commits crimes and
has/ makes a physical altercation with the police.
If they tell you to shut the f.ck up.. I highly suggest that you submit.

After all, I have been pulled over DOZENS of times, and I
walked/rode/drove away unharmed, unarrested, and untazed each and every
time.

What's the problem?

>>B.C. transit police stun fare cheaters with Taser: documents
>>Last Updated: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 | 11:55 PM ET Comments89Recommend51
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Key words, "tried to run away,"

BRAVO, Transit Police!

When you steal, and break the law, and run away, expect to be caught.

The THIEVES are lucky they merely got "shocked" instead of shot, or body
tackled and had bones broken.
necromancer - 16 Apr 2008 22:59 GMT
>> SFB spewed:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>What's the problem?

I was referring to the originator of this thread who thinks it is OK
for cops to tazer a traffic violator whether they, "resist," "make a
physical altercation," or not, but this transit cop's tazering of a
resisting suspect is, "un american," (sic) and police statism....

--

Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS (a.k.a. SFB) admits to being
a deadly speeder, psychopath and criminal coddler:

">  Have you ever driven a car faster than the legal speed limit?

Yes, but never deliberately.  In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
years ago for doing 41 in a 25.  I just about kicked the cops teeth in
cause i was sure he was lying.  No way the SL on this wide open
stretch could be 25, i thought."

Pride of America (c.k.a. Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE/Speeders And Drunk Drivers
Are Murderers (SADDAM)), 10/3/2002
Message-ID: <3c1753f7.0210030916.7b6f5dff@posting.google.com>
http://tinyurl.com/5u4wg

Proof that POA is LBMHB/lbVH/SADDAM:
See the following: http://tinyurl.com/ahphj
Rob Derhak - 16 Apr 2008 23:30 GMT
>>>SFB spewed:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> physical altercation," or not, but this transit cop's tazering of a
> resisting suspect is, "un american," (sic) and police statism....

I disagree.

I am all for those GREAT and wonderful police men and women, who TAZE
THE CRAP out of ANY "resisting suspect" that was seen breaking the law.
And it happened in CANADA, not the USA, so who cares?
Does that now make it "un Canadian"? :)
I applaud it anyway.

Break the law,.. TAZE!
(what a shocker!)

> Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS (a.k.a. SFB) admits to being
> a deadly speeder, psychopath and criminal coddler:

That's why that stump stupid c.nt should be SHOT DEAD WITH A BULLET! Not
tazed.
Benj - 17 Apr 2008 04:59 GMT
On Apr 16, 5:59 pm, necromancer

> Yes, but never deliberately.  In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
> years ago for doing 41 in a 25.  I just about kicked the cops teeth in
> cause i was sure he was lying.  No way the SL on this wide open
> stretch could be 25, i thought."

Come on. Just the standard way for small towns to make millions.
There was a small town here near a major highway. It wasn't ON the
highway mind you, just down a side street from the highway. But
because city limits extended to the highway they set the speed limit
at 25 and hauled everybody in to the (illegal) mayor's court. Until
they hauled in a big time lawyer. He hauled their a.s into court for
violating state regulations on major highway speed limits (no refunds
to all the people illegally arrested, natch) and then nailed them for
the mayor's court as well. It went all the way to the Supreme court
which declared them (more or less) illegal.  and the sweet political
scene that followed was then Governor Big Jim Rhodes on TV declaring
"No way can Ohio eliminate mayor's courts!" and refused to obey the
court. Nobody ever did anything about it. Ohio is still full of these
traffic traps. And THESE are the kinds of criminals that liberals want
to be the ONLY ones armed in society!  Stupidity so huge our meters
can't even measure it.
Brent P - 17 Apr 2008 00:04 GMT
>I believe it's PEREFECTLY "OK" to tazer anybody who commits crimes and
>has/ makes a physical altercation with the police.
>If they tell you to shut the f.ck up.. I highly suggest that you submit.

Be a good little slave (property of the state), know your place, and say
'yes massa'. Obey Authoritah. After all the cop has a state issued
costume and is part of the biggest and strongest gang there is. Obey or
get stomped.

>After all, I have been pulled over DOZENS of times, and I
>walked/rode/drove away unharmed, unarrested, and untazed each and every
>time.

Where do you draw the line of obeying their demands? At licking their
boots? Giving them the contents of your wallet? 'servicing' them in
the backseat of the sqad car? What about (other) armed criminals? Obey
them too out of fear of violence?
Benj - 17 Apr 2008 05:08 GMT
On Apr 16, 7:04 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P)
wrote:

> Where do you draw the line of obeying their demands? At licking their
> boots? Giving them the contents of your wallet? 'servicing' them in
> the backseat of the sqad car? What about (other) armed criminals? Obey
> them too out of fear of violence?

Come on! This is Canaduh we are talking about here.  Self-defense from
ANY criminal in or out of government is a CRIME!  There simply IS NO
"LINE" TO BE DRAWN!  It doesn't matter if the criminal wears a uniform
and carries a badge or not. ALL criminals are to be obeyed!  It's the
ONLY "sensible" way to prevent violence (so they tell us).  If the
criminals wish to kill you, you are required to stand there an take it
(unless you are a cop or fellow criminal).  In the Yoo Kay there have
been MANY cases where persons resisting criminals got heavier
sentences for the crime of "self-defence" even without firearms and
just using pointy sticks or other objects at hand than the actual
robbers!  I know it warms my liberal heart to see at least one
government in the world concerned about job safety for ALL it's
"working" class...
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 17 Apr 2008 03:14 GMT
> I believe it's PEREFECTLY "OK" to tazer anybody who commits crimes and
> has/ makes a physical altercation with the police.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> walked/rode/drove away unharmed, unarrested, and untazed each and every
> time.

Dozens of times!!!!! What do you do to warrant that?. Been like 6
years since a cop pulled me over.
MLOM - 17 Apr 2008 03:33 GMT
On Apr 16, 9:14 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > I believe it's PEREFECTLY "OK" to tazer anybody who commits crimes and
> > has/ makes a physical altercation with the police.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Dozens of times!!!!! What do you do to warrant that?. Been like 6
> years since a cop pulled me over.

Pfft...it's been 12 for me.  Guess my old age is catching up to me.
Actually fines are not included in my budget.

Come to think of it, you are right.  Good math.  It *has* been about 6
years since the 'toe-tap a cop' incident.

---

Loco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend (a.k.a. SADDAM) admits to
being
a deadly speeder, psychopath and criminal coddler:

">  Have you ever driven a car faster than the legal speed limit?

Yes, but never deliberately.  In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
years ago for doing 41 in a 25.  I just about kicked the cops teeth
in
cause i was sure he was lying.  No way the SL on this wide open
stretch could be 25, i thought."

Pride of America (c.k.a. Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE/Speeders And Drunk Drivers
Are Murderers (SADDAM)), 10/3/2002

Message-ID: <3c1753f7.0210030916.7b6f5dff@posting.google.com>
http://tinyurl.com/5u4wg

Proof that POA is LBMHB/lbVH/SADDAM:
See the following: http://tinyurl.com/ahphj
Rob Derhak - 17 Apr 2008 16:33 GMT
>>I believe it's PEREFECTLY "OK" to tazer anybody who commits crimes and
>>has/ makes a physical altercation with the police.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Dozens of times!!!!! What do you do to warrant that?. Been like 6
> years since a cop pulled me over.

Just lucky, I quess.
 But,it has been a while.
 Last ticket was in '03, and the last time before that, was around '85.

 Nice to see that you avoided the issue, you drunken slut.
Matthew T. Russotto - 17 Apr 2008 04:03 GMT
>> SFB spewed:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>has/ makes a physical altercation with the police.
>If they tell you to shut the f.ck up.. I highly suggest that you submit.

The police state thanks you for your support.

>After all, I have been pulled over DOZENS of times, and I
>walked/rode/drove away unharmed, unarrested, and untazed each and every
>time.
>
>What's the problem?

I don't LIKE to kneel at the zipper.  Or, to put it another way,
there's only so much sh.t I can eat in a day, and if I get pulled over
after I've reached my quota, the officer's going to get some lip.
Signature

 There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
 result in a fully-depreciated one.

Larrybud - 21 Apr 2008 17:52 GMT
Rob Derhak <Moe@Bass.gov.> wrote in news:48065e2e$0$11622
$607ed4bc@cv.net:

>> SFB spewed:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> has/ makes a physical altercation with the police.
> If they tell you to shut the f.ck up.. I highly suggest that you submit.

Apparently you've never heard the term "reasonable force"??
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 17 Apr 2008 03:12 GMT
On Apr 16, 1:35 pm, necromancer
> SFB spewed:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> This from an a.shole who thinks its OK to tazer traffic, "violators."

Traffic violators  such as speeders and drunk drivers and red light
runners are violent criminals who kill and maim and who deserve
tasing. Train fare cheats are no worse than shoplifters. THINK
Benj - 17 Apr 2008 05:15 GMT
On Apr 16, 10:12 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > This from an a.shole who thinks its OK to tazer traffic, "violators."
>
> Traffic violators  such as speeders and drunk drivers and red light
> runners are violent criminals who kill and maim and who deserve
> tasing. Train fare cheats are no worse than shoplifters. THINK

Lessee. What do cops do? Oh yeah, I remember. It's arrest people and
take them to court so a JURY can decide if they really are guilty!
Since when did the "Judge Dredd" thing start?  Since when is it OK to
inflict pain or even death upon someone merely violating traffic
regulations where the offense is to minor that they are only given a
ticket and trusted to show up for trial?  Why bother with a sham trial
at all? If the cop thinks you are guilty just have him pull out his
gun (the one like you aren't allowed to own) and kill you on the
spot?  The world is overpopulated anyway, so this will solve traffic
and AGW problems at the same time!
Larrybud - 21 Apr 2008 17:56 GMT
Benj <bjacoby@iwaynet.net> wrote in news:1aaa1c39-fbb7-48b9-b334-
b0bc8e1b5b63@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

> On Apr 16, 10:12 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> <beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> spot?  The world is overpopulated anyway, so this will solve traffic
> and AGW problems at the same time!

You seem to be under the impression that you're discussing the
subject with a sane and rational person.
zzbunker@netscape.net - 16 Apr 2008 20:46 GMT
On Apr 16, 1:05 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It's not just america.  The whole continent is now a police state.

  Canada has always been a police state.
  That's mostly why they patrol Canada,
  Rather than nanotech, lasers, robots, satellites, rockets,
  Laser Disks, PV Cells, and things that are non-police states.

> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/04/15/bc-transit-
> police-taser.html
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> (snip)
Buck Mulligan - 17 Apr 2008 01:41 GMT
In talk.politics.guns "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

>It's not just america.  The whole continent is now a police state.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Last Updated: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 | 11:55 PM ET Comments89Recommend51
>CBC News

They'll do people who steal cable TV next. You better get an extra
deadbolt, sucker.
_______________

"The FACT is that the majority of criminals, even in the
the good, old US of A, DO obey gun control laws. This is
proven by most criminals NOT being charged with any firearm
offenses, ergo they have broken no gun control laws."

                         -Phil Smythe, demonstrating what
                          passes for proof and logic in
                          Australian debate circles.
 
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