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was just about to shut down 'puter and leave work, and got an overhead page to "anyone taking 50 (US-50) the police are setting up roadblocks." WTF? AFAIK the only legally allowable reason for a roadblock in VA is for a sobriety checkpoint, and who the hell sets up a sobriety checkpoint in the middle of a major highway during afternoon rush hour? WHAT THE HELL? GODDAMNIT!?!?!!!111ELEVENTY! How much you wanna bet that I'm not going to find any mention of this in the newspaper tomorrow? I SO wish the economy didn't suck so hard so I could just sell out and move somewhere civilized. nate >was just about to shut down 'puter and leave work, and got an overhead >page to "anyone taking 50 (US-50) the police are setting up [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >the middle of a major highway during afternoon rush hour? WHAT THE >HELL? GODDAMNIT!?!?!!!111ELEVENTY! Quite obviously DUI is the excuse, not the reason. When I was working at a place with a culture that getting in at 9-9:30 am was acceptable and common, I would be leaving home after the morning rush. A good number of times I saw the police picking up traffic cones, etc in what looked like the dismantling of a checkpoint of some kind for the morning rush. I never got stuck in it so I don't know what it was. >How much you wanna bet that I'm not going to find any mention of this >in the newspaper tomorrow? Why should it? If it was in the paper it's harder to call people who say something about it kooks. >I SO wish the economy didn't suck so hard so I could just sell out and >move somewhere civilized. Where would that be? A cop at a checkpoint said I should go to Iraq since I didn't like checkpoints. I guess it makes some sort of cop sense.... >Where would that be? A cop at a checkpoint said I should go to Iraq >since I didn't like checkpoints. I guess it makes some sort of cop >sense.... In Iraq, of course, there are plenty of checkpoints -- but unlike here, they admit the people they are trying to stop are the enemy.  SignatureThere's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. On Apr 16, 10:04 pm, russo...@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew T. Russotto) wrote: > In article <OIKdnYJqZJSD85vVnZ2dnUVZ_rqln...@comcast.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can > result in a fully-depreciated one. Good observation. You have accurately shown the difference between our military personnel and LEOs. Another differnece: here in what's quickly becoming the People's Republic of America, those of us who have the urge to defend the constitution are easily considered enemies of cops, politicians, and the courts. On Apr 16, 5:22 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote: > In article <8d10fb93-a8a5-487a-a51b-8c9cdb903...@24g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, N8N wrote: > >was just about to shut down 'puter and leave work, and got an overhead > >page to "anyone taking 50 (US-50) the police are setting up > >roadblocks." > > >WTF? Roadblock/s?! Are you sure the announcement was not a joke, not intended for you? > >AFAIK the only legally allowable reason for a roadblock in VA is for a > >sobriety checkpoint, "Roadblock", or "sobriety checkpoint"? > >and who the hell sets up a sobriety checkpoint in > >the middle of a major highway during afternoon rush hour? It seems unlikely multiple sobriety checkpoints would be placed in the middle of the same major highway at rush hour, doesn't it? Would they put them between the exits, and give stopped drivers a chit to pass the subsequent checkpoints...? > >WHAT THE > >HELL? GODDAMNIT!?!?!!!111ELEVENTY! You seem to be overreacting to something you're not really sure of. > Quite obviously DUI is the excuse, not the reason. Duh. You know less about the event, if any, than him. ----- - gpsman > On Apr 16, 5:22 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Are you sure the announcement was not a joke, not intended for you? Pretty sure. It's common that technicians will call into the office to warn of unusual traffic conditions so that people may be advised of them. The only possible confusion I can think of is that whoever called in may have said "speed trap" and the receptionist got confused, but it's still a sad commentary that she would think that both were equally likely. > > >AFAIK the only legally allowable reason for a roadblock in VA is for a > > >sobriety checkpoint, > > "Roadblock", or "sobriety checkpoint"? They're the same thing, around here. Everyone gets stopped and questioned. > > >and who the hell sets up a sobriety checkpoint in > > >the middle of a major highway during afternoon rush hour? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > put them between the exits, and give stopped drivers a chit to pass > the subsequent checkpoints...? I've been caught in one in the middle of I-66 before. > > >WHAT THE > > >HELL? GODDAMNIT!?!?!!!111ELEVENTY! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Duh. You know less about the event, if any, than him. Did you have a point? nate > > On Apr 16, 5:22 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > They're the same thing, around here. Everyone gets stopped and > questioned. Everyone? How often? > > > >and who the hell sets up a sobriety checkpoint in > > > >the middle of a major highway during afternoon rush hour? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I've been caught in one in the middle of I-66 before. Just one? Seems pretty lucky, around there... > > > >WHAT THE > > > >HELL? GODDAMNIT!?!?!!!111ELEVENTY! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Did you have a point? Just the usual; you didn't know what the f.ck you're talking about, and neither did he. And you were squatting to piss yourself yesterday, over nothing. ----- - gpsman > > > On Apr 16, 5:22 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) > > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Everyone? How often? Whenever a checkpoint/roadblock is set up. The entire road is shut down, and every single driver on the road gets a cursory flashlight in the eyes and little chat from a LEO. > > > > >and who the hell sets up a sobriety checkpoint in > > > > >the middle of a major highway during afternoon rush hour? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Just one? Seems pretty lucky, around there... I don't drive late at night as much as I used to. > > > > >WHAT THE > > > > >HELL? GODDAMNIT!?!?!!!111ELEVENTY! [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Just the usual; you didn't know what the f.ck you're talking about, > and neither did he. Ironic, coming from you. > And you were squatting to piss yourself yesterday, over nothing. You don't know whether it was "nothing" or not. Me, I wasn't curious enough to actually take that road (not my usual way home, anyway) to see what exactly was going on, because were it a real roadblock/checkpoint it likely would have taken significantly longer to get home, and I had a new toy waiting for me that I wanted to play with. (see other thread.) nate >Me, I wasn't curious enough to actually take that road (not my usual >way home, anyway) to see what exactly was going on, because were it a >real roadblock/checkpoint it likely would have taken significantly >longer to get home, and I had a new toy waiting for me that I wanted >to play with. (see other thread.) One of these days I am going to be bicycling through a checkpoint... I wonder how that is going to go... There was a weekend daylight check point two towns over that I saw mentioned as a warning in one of the discussion areas on CL. It was in a spot that is challenging to bike to because of an expressway and arterial roads, but I biked over there because I wanted to observe one in daylight. Since I learned about it hours after it started and it was another hour before I got over there, it was cleaned up by then. I was going to go for a bike ride anyway... that just gave me a destination into a area I wanted to see if I could find a good cyling route for anyway. None exists as I found. I was hoping for an 'off-map' route carved by the local children or a ped underpass... no such luck. > > > > On Apr 16, 5:22 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) > > > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > I don't drive late at night as much as I used to. If they're going to check "everyone", as in "Everyone gets stopped and questioned", it seems like they'd have to run them 24/7. Now you're telling me that "everyone" means "everyone on that road"?! > > > > > >WHAT THE > > > > > >HELL? GODDAMNIT!?!?!!!111ELEVENTY! [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Ironic, coming from you. Of course. > > And you were squatting to piss yourself yesterday, over nothing. > > You don't know whether it was "nothing" or not. Well, you haven't mentioned all the turmoil the "roadblocks" caused you, beyond whining about it before you knew if it was fact or fantasy. > Me, I wasn't curious enough to actually take that road (not my usual > way home, anyway) to see what exactly was going on, because were it a > real roadblock/checkpoint it likely would have taken significantly > longer to get home, and I had a new toy waiting for me that I wanted > to play with. (see other thread.) So... you weren't even planning to take that route, and were still squatting to piss yourself. Sounds like much ado about "nothing" to me, AKA "false dilemma". ----- - gpsman > > > > > On Apr 16, 5:22 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) > > > > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Now you're telling me that "everyone" means "everyone on that road"?! Um, yes, who but a COMPLETE MORON would think that I meant anything else? > > > > > > >WHAT THE > > > > > > >HELL? GODDAMNIT!?!?!!!111ELEVENTY! [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Of course. Yes, it is. > > > And you were squatting to piss yourself yesterday, over nothing. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > you, beyond whining about it before you knew if it was fact or > fantasy. In the past, they have caused me personally significant inconvenience and delay. > > Me, I wasn't curious enough to actually take that road (not my usual > > way home, anyway) to see what exactly was going on, because were it a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Sounds like much ado about "nothing" to me, AKA "false dilemma". I get it. If *someone else's* constitutional rights get violated, it's funny. If *yours* gets violated, then you worry about it. Let me be the first (and surely not the last) to ask WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU? nate > > > > > > On Apr 16, 5:22 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) > > > > > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > Um, yes, who but a COMPLETE MORON would think that I meant anything > else? Someone who can read...? > > > > > > > >WHAT THE > > > > > > > >HELL? GODDAMNIT!?!?!!!111ELEVENTY! [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > In the past, they have caused me personally significant inconvenience > and delay. That's a fine reason to overreact to something you know will have no effect on you. > > > Me, I wasn't curious enough to actually take that road (not my usual > > > way home, anyway) to see what exactly was going on, because were it a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I get it. If *someone else's* constitutional rights get violated, > it's funny. If *yours* gets violated, then you worry about it. Whose constitutional rights were violated? I get it, it's one of your subtle changes of subject/intellectual fallacies. In this case, "ignoratio elenchi". > Let me be the first (and surely not the last) to ask WHAT THE HELL IS > WRONG WITH YOU? I can read? And think? That just makes me "differently-abled" than yourself, not defective. ----- - gpsman >>>>>>>On Apr 16, 5:22 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) >>>>>>>wrote: [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Someone who can read...? No, someone with reading skills and logical skills would understand my statements correctly. >>>>>>>>>WHAT THE >>>>>>>>>HELL? GODDAMNIT!?!?!!!111ELEVENTY! [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > That's a fine reason to overreact to something you know will have no > effect on you. You're a very selfish person, you know that? >>>>Me, I wasn't curious enough to actually take that road (not my usual >>>>way home, anyway) to see what exactly was going on, because were it a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Whose constitutional rights were violated? Everyone who was stopped without probable cause. \ > I get it, it's one of your subtle changes of subject/intellectual > fallacies. In this case, "ignoratio elenchi". It's not a change of subject at all, it is a fundamental objection to checkpoints. What's latin for "being a fusking stupid annoying moron with postorrhea?" >>Let me be the first (and surely not the last) to ask WHAT THE HELL IS >>WRONG WITH YOU? > > I can read? Prove it. > And think? Prove it. > That just makes me "differently-abled" than > yourself, You most certainly are. > not defective. You most certainly are. You never answered a question that I asked you a while back. How do you interact with people IRL without being repeatedly punched in the face? nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel > was just about to shut down 'puter and leave work, and got an overhead > page to "anyone taking 50 (US-50) the police are setting up [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > nate Whiskey Tango Foxtrrot indeed. The timing makes no sense, as it would be way too early for a driver to be drunk (assuming the driver has a job). Then again, these days the use of common sense might lead to a tazering in the nads. >Whiskey Tango Foxtrrot indeed. The timing makes no sense, as it would >be way too early for a driver to be drunk (assuming the driver has a >job). It makes perfect sense to me. DUI checkpoints, even late on a friday night don't collect many DUIs. What they do collect are people with warrants and many revenue generating violations of the paperwork and equipment variety. Many checkpoints are federally funded from the federal gas tax.... They must think it better to do something that violates our liberty than to fix bridges, but I digress. Anyway, rush hour is when they will get many more drivers passing through the checkpoint. People who don't drive late on a friday night. Much more money to be had by violations. Another thing is that checkpoints are established practice now, they can move out a little into the light of day. They can broaden the target base. On Apr 16, 6:26 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote: > In article <2934fce9-d567-4149-b5f2-d4e8e4756...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, MLOM wrote: > >Whiskey Tango Foxtrrot indeed. The timing makes no sense, as it would [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > move out a little into the light of day. They can broaden the target > base. I've never been in a checkpoint, but there was one on a major commute route (A45) in the Midlands of GB, It closed just before I got there, one rush-hour morning. It was a 15 second or so quiz on where you were going and how often you went there. (The general area was wanted, not the exact address.) It was part of a trafic - improvement plan. (A guy I worked with was part of it and told me later.) (This route had many round-abouts, so the commute traffic was sort of easy anyhow, to this refugee from the Bay Area.) Black helico0pters were NOT involved. (Sorry to be such a wet blanket.) On Apr 16, 8:26 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote: > In article <2934fce9-d567-4149-b5f2-d4e8e4756...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, MLOM wrote: > >Whiskey Tango Foxtrrot indeed. The timing makes no sense, as it would [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > move out a little into the light of day. They can broaden the target > base. Of course. And armed with a Taser as the weapon of choice as opposed to firearms, because you can't collect that precious fine $$$ from a dead suspect. It's also easier to make the collection easier as the legislators pass more restrictions that make more of our everyday activities illegal. It's not about controlling the society (despite any black-helicopter theory) but about finding more ways to pick pockets. >It's not about controlling the society (despite any black-helicopter >theory) but about finding more ways to pick pockets. I thought the reason to control society is to suck the wealth out of it for one's own. Well some do enjoy the torture and killing... but that's probably a vast minority. > was just about to shut down 'puter and leave work, and got an overhead > page to "anyone taking 50 (US-50) the police are setting up [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > nate Are roadblocks looking for perps escaping from crime scenes not legal? Sounds like you are taking a wild leap of assumption. You could, of course, be correct though. Harry K > > was just about to shut down 'puter and leave work, and got an overhead > > page to "anyone taking 50 (US-50) the police are setting up [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Anything's possible, Harry. Cops don't spend *all* their time ensuring that Dunkin Donuts stock stays valuable. ;) >was just about to shut down 'puter and leave work, and got an overhead >page to "anyone taking 50 (US-50) the police are setting up [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >the middle of a major highway during afternoon rush hour? WHAT THE >HELL? GODDAMNIT!?!?!!!111ELEVENTY! Maybe it was an escaped convict or something? Tommyt Lee Jones set up checkpoints like that in The Fugitive. :) >I SO wish the economy didn't suck so hard so I could just sell out and >move somewhere civilized. Like SoCal? SignatureJoin Operation Starve the Troll: Don't respond to his posts or click on his web site. Deny him the attention he so desperately craves and he'll go away! >was just about to shut down 'puter and leave work, and got an overhead >page to "anyone taking 50 (US-50) the police are setting up >roadblocks." > >WTF? BTW, how did whoever-it-was who issued the page find out about these roadblocks? SignatureJoin Operation Starve the Troll: Don't respond to his posts or click on his web site. Deny him the attention he so desperately craves and he'll go away! >>was just about to shut down 'puter and leave work, and got an overhead >>page to "anyone taking 50 (US-50) the police are setting up [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >BTW, how did whoever-it-was who issued the page find out about these >roadblocks? I would guess someone who left earlier got stuck in it and called to tell others who had not left yet. Or a vendor/supplier stopped by and said... you know the cops have a checkpoint set up down the road from you... On Apr 17, 9:10 am, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote: > In article <q8kd04tra700eekfloondstd5l2gqm0...@4ax.com>, Scott in SoCal wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > said... you know the cops have a checkpoint set up down the road from > you... yes, both are somewhat common occurrances (not checkpoints, but informal traffic reports of wrecks, road closures, or unusually heavy traffic) and informing the receptionist is a common courtesy. nate |
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