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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / April 2008

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Today's nominee for the Aunt Judy Award

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MLOM - 21 Apr 2008 04:26 GMT
A group pushing for the return of the 55mph NMSL:
http://www.drive55.org/

Apparently the group has fogotten about the highway hypnosis epidemic
of the 1970s and 1980s.
Alexander Rogge - 21 Apr 2008 04:48 GMT
> A group pushing for the return of the 55mph NMSL:
> http://www.drive55.org/
>
> Apparently the group has fogotten about the highway hypnosis epidemic
> of the 1970s and 1980s.

How about the recent problems of people deliberately causing a
rolling-roadblock at the NMSL speed restriction?  Traffic was quickly
jammed and the roadways were closed.  These demonstrations should show
why not to drive so slowly while also blocking the passing lanes.  When
the passing lanes are open, slow traffic in the right lane is rarely a
problem.

I find it odd that the drivers who claim that they're only "doing the
speed limit" are also the same drivers who fail to obey the actual speed
restrictions.  They're completely oblivious to the traffic that is
swerving around them, and keep "driving 55" even when the speed
restriction is signed lower, such as through a construction zone and a
lane closure.  I've also seen some drivers that seem to be staring at
their speedometers while they drive, and some were yapping on the mobile
at the same time.  Avoiding these scary drivers is one reason why I like
buses and trains.
Brent P - 21 Apr 2008 05:00 GMT
>A group pushing for the return of the 55mph NMSL:
>http://www.drive55.org/
>
>Apparently the group has fogotten about the highway hypnosis epidemic
>of the 1970s and 1980s.

Forget? No.. that's what they want.  They are the same people who think
that their way is morally superior. They view the 70s and 80s as their
empowered decade when they got to start blocking everyone else's
progress on the road. They are control freaks.
gpsman - 21 Apr 2008 05:05 GMT
On Apr 21, 12:00 am, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P)
wrote:
> In article <2bf26922-f8ea-4537-ab49-38147a07f...@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, MLOM wrote:
> >A group pushing for the return of the 55mph NMSL:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> They are control freaks.

Scratch one industrial model irony meter.
-----

- gpsman
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 21 Apr 2008 05:04 GMT
> A group pushing for the return of the 55mph NMSL:http://www.drive55.org/
>
> Apparently the group has fogotten about the highway hypnosis epidemic
> of the 1970s and 1980s.

Do you remember the thousands of lives saved every year by the 55?
Anyway, lots of people want the 55 brought back. You don't hear about
them because the auto industry makes a fortune off car crashes and
pays the media to censor these groups.
Larrybud - 21 Apr 2008 17:00 GMT
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <betaxxx@earthlink.net>
wrote in news:beb562e7-39f8-4038-be8c-b46ccc35ba12
@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com:

>> A group pushing for the return of the 55mph NMSL:http://www.drive55.org/
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> them because the auto industry makes a fortune off car crashes and
> pays the media to censor these groups.

A lot of people think the moon landings were fake, aliens have
visited Earth, and magnetic bracelet cure disease.  But it's best
not to give the wack jobs any credibility by pretending they might
be sane.

Note, death rate has declined since the 55 mph limit was removed.
necromancer - 21 Apr 2008 06:27 GMT
>A group pushing for the return of the 55mph NMSL:
>http://www.drive55.org/
>
>Apparently the group has fogotten about the highway hypnosis epidemic
>of the 1970s and 1980s.

Apparently they have forgotten that 55 was tried once, was almost
universally rejected and finally sent to the trash bin of history in
the '80's as the utter failure that it was....
--
"The pee trough is rude, folks."
                  --Sam Kinison
Arif Khokar - 21 Apr 2008 06:35 GMT
> Apparently they have forgotten that 55 was tried once, was almost
> universally rejected and finally sent to the trash bin of history in
> the '80's as the utter failure that it was....

Actually, it wasn't history until 1995.  Even now, many states cling to
it (in the form of SMSLs).
Sir Lex - 21 Apr 2008 11:23 GMT
> A group pushing for the return of the 55mph NMSL:
> http://www.drive55.org/
>
> Apparently the group has fogotten about the highway hypnosis epidemic
> of the 1970s and 1980s.

Get rid of speed limits everywhere.  Train people how to drive, rather
than how to pass a driving test.  Then drivers can make their own
educated decision about how fast is best for the conditions and for
their situation.

Whether it be 10mph in a commercial area or on a residential street with
kids about, 80-90mph to keep up with the flow of traffic on a busy
interstate in clear conditions, or 55mph on a quieter stretch of
interstate/country road to maximise fuel economy.
Dave - 21 Apr 2008 11:51 GMT
>> A group pushing for the return of the 55mph NMSL:
>> http://www.drive55.org/
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> decision about how fast is best for the conditions and for their
> situation.

I've often said that speedometers should be BANNED from automobiles.  My
reason is, the speedometer has nothing at all to do with driving.  And
nobody can refute that last sentence WITHOUT referring to other things that
ALSO have NOTHING to do with driving!  Do we want people driving, or staring
at a speedometer?

Simply stated, if you can't tell that your speed is reasonable and safe
without looking at a speedometer, you should not be driving at all.  -Dave
Brent P - 21 Apr 2008 13:29 GMT
>> A group pushing for the return of the 55mph NMSL:
>> http://www.drive55.org/
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>interstate in clear conditions, or 55mph on a quieter stretch of
>interstate/country road to maximise fuel economy.

But then how will governments get revenue and be able to define us all
as law breakers or suspicious persons ?
Dave Head - 21 Apr 2008 13:35 GMT
>> A group pushing for the return of the 55mph NMSL:
>> http://www.drive55.org/
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Get rid of speed limits everywhere.  Train people how to drive,

The problem is that "driving" to the level of not having accidents is and
always has been _waaaaaay_ beyond human capability.

When we get to the point where we can build some really smart robots that can
drive, there will always be 40,000 or so people killed on the roads every year
in the US.  Of course the other solution is to shut down the highways
completely and invent some other form of transportation that, of course, would
also have to run on some kind of automated control.
N8N - 21 Apr 2008 13:39 GMT
> A group pushing for the return of the 55mph NMSL:http://www.drive55.org/
>
> Apparently the group has fogotten about the highway hypnosis epidemic
> of the 1970s and 1980s.

Can we change the subject please?  Discussing the article is OK
(although I'm guessing probably good for a chuckle and/or facepalm)
but "Aunt Judy Award" to me seems to go against the spirit of OSTT.
I'd really like to give it a try for a couple weeks and see if it
makes a difference.  Plus making fun of Joan Claybrook is always well
deserved.

nate
DanKMTB@gmail.com - 21 Apr 2008 14:28 GMT
"It takes longer to get places. But you know what? It doesn’t take
that much longer. Every time the needle creeps up to 60 I remember
polar bears and slow down. It makes me feel good."

I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Brent P - 21 Apr 2008 14:39 GMT
>"It takes longer to get places. But you know what? It doesn=92t take
>that much longer. Every time the needle creeps up to 60 I remember
>polar bears and slow down. It makes me feel good."
>
>I just threw up in my mouth a little.

It's amazing how easily the ignorant masses are scamed isn't it. That
one fell for every layer of the scam.
 
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