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UK getting smart - Two speeding violations and your license is GONE!!

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 21 Apr 2008 16:23 GMT
Fine with me.  In fact i say put these kid killers in prison.

http://tinyurl.com/4rzwtz

Just TWO speeding tickets and you could be banned from driving
By RAY MASSEY -21st April 2008

Drivers face being banned for only two speeding offences under a draconian
shake-up of road safety laws.

Motorists caught going well over the limit would receive six points -
double the current penalty - and a £100 fine.

It would mean that under the totting-up scheme, they would lose their
licences by reaching the 12-point maximum after just two convictions.

The six-point penalty is expected to apply to those driving at 45mph or
more in a 30mph zone, at least 57mph in a 40mph area or above 94mph on a
70mph road.

The new regime would be enforced by a massive expansion of digital cameras
which record average speeds rather than the fixed-point roadside Gatsos.

It is the latest shot at motorists following a new three-point penalty for
chatting on a mobile phone while at the wheel.

With more than a million drivers already on the brink of a ban, the measure
could see the number of disqualified drivers double.

(snip)
N8N - 21 Apr 2008 16:32 GMT
On Apr 21, 11:23 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

(yet another crosspost on topic for only a few of the many groups)

Yet another pathetic troll bleats its plaintive cry for attention.

nate
Brent P - 21 Apr 2008 16:42 GMT
>On Apr 21, 11:23 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
><xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>(yet another crosspost on topic for only a few of the many groups)
>
>Yet another pathetic troll bleats its plaintive cry for attention.

But there was one bit of yesterday's tin foil hat turned todays
mainstream media....

"The new regime would be enforced by a massive expansion of digital
cameras which record average speeds rather than the fixed-point roadside
Gatsos."

I said government would want to do this once they got their tracking
schemes in place and it was dismissed as tin foil hattery.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 21 Apr 2008 16:53 GMT
On Apr 21, 9:42 am, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P)

> But there was one bit of yesterday's tin foil hat turned todays
> mainstream media....
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I said government would want to do this once they got their tracking
> schemes in place and it was dismissed as tin foil hattery.

Criminal drivers are the biggest crime problem in the UK and USA and i
want them stopped before they kill me.  Stop being a coddler.
Brad Allen - 22 Apr 2008 08:31 GMT
" Criminal drivers are the biggest crime problem in the UK and USA and i
" want them stopped before they kill me.  Stop being a coddler.

Most accidents around where I live are caused by drivers driving too slow
for conditions.  Those same drivers tend to be unlicensed illegal aliens
who often drink and drive, too, don't know the driving laws and standards,
and don't have the mental reflexes and mental training capable of being as
good at driving as alert faster drivers are.

Going too fast can be bad and even lethal, but high speed in general is far
from the only consideration and far from being purely bad.  A lot of
people have a tendency to blame problems upon speed when speed is not
to blame.
Screen Ranger - 22 Apr 2008 17:57 GMT
> In article
> <bda31955-fcfd-4147-9baf-a7cd61c638a7@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> not
> to blame.

I agree, I drive fast only when there is no car around me, I slow
down when approaching high density traffic. Speed will save your
life, many times stupid drivers merged into my lane without a
warning.
Studemania - 22 Apr 2008 18:27 GMT
> > In article
> > <bda31955-fcfd-4147-9baf-a7cd61c63...@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Speed, or speeding in the legal sense, in itself, is not automatically
dangerous. I would be much happier on a road with thinking
"speeders" (legal, not safety sense) than surrounded by uinthinking
drivers going at or under the limit.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 23 Apr 2008 18:22 GMT
> In article
> <bda31955-fcfd-4147-9baf-a7cd61c638a7@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Most accidents around where I live are caused by drivers driving too
> slow for conditions.  

HAHAHA,  Yeah right.  Can you give us one example where slow driving caused
a crash.?  I can just hear you now - "Some guy was driving 30 mph in a 30
zone and i wanted to do 40 so i was forced to pass him and ran over a kid".
Studemania - 23 Apr 2008 20:45 GMT
On Apr 23, 10:22 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > In article
> > <bda31955-fcfd-4147-9baf-a7cd61c63...@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> a crash.?  I can just hear you now - "Some guy was driving 30 mph in a 30
> zone and i wanted to do 40 so i was forced to pass him and ran over a kid".

How much per case I can supply. (My rate is $35 per hour, with a one
hour minimum.)
Bo Raxo - 24 Apr 2008 03:44 GMT
>> In article
>> <bda31955-fcfd-4147-9baf-a7cd61c638a7@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> caused
> a crash.?

Here you go, a fatal crash caused by a truck driving too slowly on the
freeway, at only 19 mph. No doubt you want to coddle this criminal killer.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/mostpopular.var.2185454.mostviewed.friends_died_after_
hitting_truck_crawling_along_motorway.php


"Six men were killed instantly when the recovery truck they were riding in
hit a lorry doing just 19mph on the M25."
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 24 Apr 2008 17:36 GMT
>>> In article
>>> <bda31955-fcfd-4147-9baf-a7cd61c638a7@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> "Six men were killed instantly when the recovery truck they were
> riding in hit a lorry doing just 19mph on the M25."

That's in the UK you idiot.  We're talking about america!!!
N8N - 24 Apr 2008 17:57 GMT
On Apr 24, 12:36 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >>> In article
> >>> <bda31955-fcfd-4147-9baf-a7cd61c63...@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> That's in the UK you idiot.  We're talking about america!!!

The laws of physics remain the same on the left and right sides of the
pond, troll.

nate
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 26 Apr 2008 17:10 GMT
> On Apr 24, 12:36 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> nate

gfy, hater.
Studemania - 23 Apr 2008 20:54 GMT
> In article <bda31955-fcfd-4147-9baf-a7cd61c63...@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> people have a tendency to blame problems upon speed when speed is not
> to blame.

I keep asking SADDAM if he defines "Speeding" as a safety professional
would or as a judge would.
For some reason he never answers. He tries to connect it with
accidents but uses it only as someone interested in collecting fines
would. He hasn't even challanged my contention that a non-speeder
could pass a speeder on the highway, using the significant meaning. I
guess he isn't really interested in safety.
Laurence Sheldon - 23 Apr 2008 21:10 GMT
> I guess he isn't really interested in safety.

People who use the terms "speeder" and "speeding" are, almost as a
matter of axiom, interested in the revenue from some aspect.

Genuinely safety-minded people talk about "speed for the conditions", or
 "speed for the situation".

As in, "the driver was traveling too slow  for the situation" or "the
carr was being driven too fast for the icy conditions".
Larrybud - 21 Apr 2008 16:54 GMT
> Fine with me.  In fact i say put these kid killers in prison.
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> their licences by reaching the 12-point maximum after just two
> convictions.

Good thing they didn't have a 42 in a 25 mph zone like you got
caught doing, eh hypocrite?
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 22 Apr 2008 03:40 GMT
> Good thing they didn't have a 42 in a 25 mph zone like you got
> caught doing, eh hypocrite?

I have never been convicted of 42 in a 25, you liar.
Larrybud - 22 Apr 2008 13:19 GMT
>> Good thing they didn't have a 42 in a 25 mph zone like you got
>> caught doing, eh hypocrite?
>
> I have never been convicted of 42 in a 25, you liar.

You're right.  41 in a 25.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 23 Apr 2008 18:24 GMT
>>> Good thing they didn't have a 42 in a 25 mph zone like you got
>>> caught doing, eh hypocrite?
>>
>> I have never been convicted of 42 in a 25, you liar.
>
> You're right.  41 in a 25.

Make up your mind, hater.
Studemania - 23 Apr 2008 20:55 GMT
> >> Good thing they didn't have a 42 in a 25 mph zone like you got
> >> caught doing, eh hypocrite?
>
> > I have never been convicted of 42 in a 25, you liar.
>
> You're right.  41 in a 25.

Notice one person uses "caught" and the other "conviction."
Both are probably right.
 
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