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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / April 2008

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Data mining trip records... Yesterday's tin foil hat, today's mainstream news...

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Brent P - 22 Apr 2008 04:18 GMT
What was tinfoil hattery a while back is mainstream news today:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/21/nspy121.xml

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Routine journeys carried out by millions of British motorists can be
monitored by authorities in the United States and other enforcement
agencies across the world under anti-terrorism rules introduced
discreetly by Jacqui Smith.

<...>

Sources said that officers would access the cameras on behalf of
overseas authorities if they were informed about a terrorism threat in
the UK or elsewhere. They would then share the images, which can be held
for five years before being destroyed, if necessary.

Last night, Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat leader, said: "This
confirms that this Government is happy to hand over potentially huge
amounts of information on British citizens under the catch-all pretext
of 'national security'."

Civil liberties campaigners said they were appalled that images of
innocent people's journeys could end up in the hands of the British
police, let alone foreign investigators.

They feared that it was a move towards the US-style system of "data
mining" - in which powerful computers sifted millions of pieces of
information as they tried to build patterns of behaviour and match them
to material about suspects.

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Alexander Rogge - 22 Apr 2008 07:15 GMT
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/21/nspy121.xml
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> the UK or elsewhere. They would then share the images, which can be held
> for five years before being destroyed, if necessary.

Don't do anything that you shouldn't be doing, and you don't have
anything to worry about!  It's going to get worse with automated
roadways.  Driving manually will be suspicious, and the statistics about
your behaviours will be recorded and shared.
Larrybud - 22 Apr 2008 13:20 GMT
> Don't do anything that you shouldn't be doing, and you don't
> have anything to worry about!

Aye, Comrade!
Brent P - 22 Apr 2008 13:32 GMT
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/21/nspy121.xml
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>roadways.  Driving manually will be suspicious, and the statistics about
>your behaviours will be recorded and shared.

The big trouble is even if you don't do anything you shouldn't be doing
the statistics of one's travel can be spun to look bad anyway.
Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 23 Apr 2008 01:10 GMT
> > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/21/nspy121.xml
> >
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> roadways.  Driving manually will be suspicious, and the statistics about
> your behaviours will be recorded and shared.

Your auto insurance company would like t have a word with you. Your
vehicle has been spotted parked outside the neighborhood pub a number of
times that is indicative of a serious drinking problem.

In order to discourage such behavior, and to compensate for the higher
risk, your rates are being raised.

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Alexander Rogge - 23 Apr 2008 02:06 GMT
> Your auto insurance company would like t have a word with you. Your
> vehicle has been spotted parked outside the neighborhood pub a number of
> times that is indicative of a serious drinking problem.

That's impossible because I take the bus.

> In order to discourage such behavior, and to compensate for the higher
> risk, your rates are being raised.

They'll report to the health insurance companies too, as I may be a
higher risk for some condition that could cost them money.
Brent P - 23 Apr 2008 03:01 GMT
>> Your auto insurance company would like t have a word with you. Your
>> vehicle has been spotted parked outside the neighborhood pub a number of
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>They'll report to the health insurance companies too, as I may be a
>higher risk for some condition that could cost them money.

Don't visit mickey D's or the pizza place any more either....
 
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