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necromancer - 10 May 2008 19:06 GMT

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Don't people ever learn?

"I didn't want to hurt them, I only wanted to kill them."
- David Berkowitz

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Nate Nagel - 10 May 2008 19:29 GMT

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> Don't people ever learn?
>
> "I didn't want to hurt them, I only wanted to kill them."
> - David Berkowitz

Fine by me. More gas for the rest of us, and maybe when people realize
that not buying gas means saving money, they'll find alternate means to
get around, which will probably be good for them.

Speaking of which, I consider myself a fairly large-sized individual.
Why is it then, that everywhere I go, there's people of considerably
larger mass than I? The grocery store is especially frightening, and
I'm not sure who I could tell "I'd really like to lose 10 lbs. or so"
without that just sounding weird and awkward.

For the record, I did my part this morning, needed some stuff in Vienna
so I rode my bike, seeing as it's less than 6 miles away. Since it was
misting, it was a nice ride as all the fair weather pansies weren't on
the roads/trails. One of these days I'll be able to get up the hill to
the I-66 overpass without using the little/big cogs though... (I guess
that goes along with the "fairly large-sized individual" thing.)

nate

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Arif Khokar - 10 May 2008 19:43 GMT

> For the record, I did my part this morning, needed some stuff in Vienna
> so I rode my bike, seeing as it's less than 6 miles away. Since it was
> misting, it was a nice ride as all the fair weather pansies weren't on
> the roads/trails. One of these days I'll be able to get up the hill to
> the I-66 overpass without using the little/big cogs though... (I guess
> that goes along with the "fairly large-sized individual" thing.)

Actually it's better to maintain a higher pedal rpm. I used to try to
stay in higher gears when riding uphill, but I find that I can go faster
by pedaling faster in a lower gear. The trick is to keep your rpms
high, and as soon as it starts getting too difficult to maintain it,
downshift and try to go even faster. You'll lose very little in terms
of speed that way.

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Nate Nagel - 10 May 2008 19:49 GMT

>> For the record, I did my part this morning, needed some stuff in
>> Vienna so I rode my bike, seeing as it's less than 6 miles away.
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> downshift and try to go even faster. You'll lose very little in terms
> of speed that way.

yeah, I got that bit. I just don't like moving slowly. Some things
never change :)

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Brent P - 10 May 2008 20:28 GMT

> Actually it's better to maintain a higher pedal rpm. I used to try to
> stay in higher gears when riding uphill, but I find that I can go faster
> by pedaling faster in a lower gear. The trick is to keep your rpms
> high, and as soon as it starts getting too difficult to maintain it,
> downshift and try to go even faster. You'll lose very little in terms
> of speed that way.

Hmmm... I am more of a power rider I guess. I charge hills by getting up
as much speed as I can before climbing and then shifting to the easier
gears as I climb. only in my riding out of state would I end up running
out of gears ;) <insert flatlander jokes here>

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necromancer - 10 May 2008 22:06 GMT

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>that not buying gas means saving money, they'll find alternate means to
>get around, which will probably be good for them.

Not necessairly. According to the article I read and a news report I
saw last night, they are calling for boycotting one company at a time;
as in Checron this month, Exxon next month and so on.... That's going
to be just like the, "great american gas outs," that sprung up when
the previous occupant of the whitehouse occupied the white house and
gas dared to spike to US$1.50: The boycotters will still be buying the
stuff, it will just be a matter of from whom you are buying it from as
opposed to when.

I still say that if people want to make a difference with these,
"boycotts," let them park their cars for a month or so and consume
*no* gasoline during that timeframe. Anything else is just so much hot
air from the exhaust pipe just above their chins.....

>Speaking of which, I consider myself a fairly large-sized individual.
>Why is it then, that everywhere I go, there's people of considerably
>larger mass than I? The grocery store is especially frightening, and
>I'm not sure who I could tell "I'd really like to lose 10 lbs. or so"
>without that just sounding weird and awkward.

I think we all could stand to lose a few pounds these days. It amazes
me that some of these people are even able to drag themselves out of
bed in the morning.....

>For the record, I did my part this morning, needed some stuff in Vienna
>so I rode my bike, seeing as it's less than 6 miles away. Since it was
>misting, it was a nice ride as all the fair weather pansies weren't on
>the roads/trails. One of these days I'll be able to get up the hill to
>the I-66 overpass without using the little/big cogs though... (I guess
>that goes along with the "fairly large-sized individual" thing.)

Yeah, I gotta keep my eye out for that bush rebate check. I still have
my eye on that Giant 21-speed that I test rode last month.
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Nate Nagel - 10 May 2008 22:39 GMT

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> Official Overseer Of KoOkS And Trolls In rec.autos.driving

Thanks for reminding me to check. looks like I just got mine today
(direct deposit. Does happy dance.) Now do I blow some of it on a set
of SPD pedals/cleats/shoes or something cool for the Stude? (yes, I did
say "some" - I transferred half of it directly into savings, as I'm sure
many other people are doing in this economy. Good thinking, Georgie. I
ain't sending it back, though.)

nate

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necromancer - 10 May 2008 23:01 GMT

>Thanks for reminding me to check. looks like I just got mine today
>(direct deposit. Does happy dance.) Now do I blow some of it on a set
>of SPD pedals/cleats/shoes or something cool for the Stude? (yes, I did
>say "some" - I transferred half of it directly into savings, as I'm sure
>many other people are doing in this economy.

That's generally my plan, part of it to savings and part for the bike
(I already have most of the money for the bike laying around, just
want to gat the check first for some reason), then it will be on to
bridge climbing on the new bike......

>Good thinking, Georgie. I ain't sending it back, though.)

Though, the next guy (or gal - I suppose she still has a mathmatical
chance of winning the nomination) may have to take it back.....

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Matthew T. Russotto - 11 May 2008 02:30 GMT

I just picked up some closeout M28 Aero wheels (everyone says the
ALX-295s I have suck; they've been OK for me but I haven't ridden
anything else), and some Dura-Ace 10-speed shifters. None of it from
the rebate check, though; that all went to pay local taxes (keeping in
mind that money is fungible...).

I'm sure there's enough irresponsible morons out there for the
"stimulus package" to have the effect Georgie wants. Same ones who
are having trouble with the payments on their McMansion and have to go
into debt to fill up their Tahoe XLs.

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Brent P - 10 May 2008 23:28 GMT

> Not necessairly. According to the article I read and a news report I
> saw last night, they are calling for boycotting one company at a time;
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> stuff, it will just be a matter of from whom you are buying it from as
> opposed to when.

Pretty clear they don't understand fungible. All they are going to do is
hurt the few private gas station owners out there. So what if Mobil
sells less at the pump? The gasoline from their refineries will just go
to a BP station. I guess they'll lose the snack revenue at the corporate
owned stations.... but I doubt that was the point.

> I still say that if people want to make a difference with these,
> "boycotts," let them park their cars for a month or so and consume
> *no* gasoline during that timeframe. Anything else is just so much hot
> air from the exhaust pipe just above their chins.....

Yep.

>>Speaking of which, I consider myself a fairly large-sized individual.
>>Why is it then, that everywhere I go, there's people of considerably
>>larger mass than I? The grocery store is especially frightening, and
>>I'm not sure who I could tell "I'd really like to lose 10 lbs. or so"
>>without that just sounding weird and awkward.

> I think we all could stand to lose a few pounds these days. It amazes
> me that some of these people are even able to drag themselves out of
> bed in the morning.....

For some reason of those who are hostile to bicyclists many fit that
description.

>>For the record, I did my part this morning, needed some stuff in Vienna
>>so I rode my bike, seeing as it's less than 6 miles away. Since it was
>>misting, it was a nice ride as all the fair weather pansies weren't on
>>the roads/trails. One of these days I'll be able to get up the hill to
>>the I-66 overpass without using the little/big cogs though... (I guess
>>that goes along with the "fairly large-sized individual" thing.)

> Yeah, I gotta keep my eye out for that bush rebate check. I still have
> my eye on that Giant 21-speed that I test rode last month.

I just want warmth. May 11th and I still have to wear the long pants and
two shirts (one long sleeve) to ride. Did 17 miles today, longest of the
season thus far... damn cold.

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necromancer - 11 May 2008 00:09 GMT

>> Not necessairly. According to the article I read and a news report I
>> saw last night, they are calling for boycotting one company at a time;
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>
>Pretty clear they don't understand fungible.

Well this thing is being called for by the SCLC. Says a lot, IMO....

> All they are going to do is
>hurt the few private gas station owners out there. So what if Mobil
>sells less at the pump? The gasoline from their refineries will just go
>to a BP station. I guess they'll lose the snack revenue at the corporate
>owned stations.... but I doubt that was the point.

That's true. And when its BP's turn, the gasoline will go to the Mobil
station (or the Shell or Chevron etc... station). I think I'll keep an
eye on this boycott thing and who ever is the target of the boycott,
that's who I'll get gas from that month (atleast the lines should be
shorter).

>> I still say that if people want to make a difference with these,
>> "boycotts," let them park their cars for a month or so and consume
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>For some reason of those who are hostile to bicyclists many fit that
>description.

Agreed. Needless to say, riding around here can be an adventure....

>>>For the record, I did my part this morning, needed some stuff in Vienna
>>>so I rode my bike, seeing as it's less than 6 miles away. Since it was
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>I just want warmth.

We had our first 90 degree F day yesterday..... ;)

>May 11th and I still have to wear the long pants and
>two shirts (one long sleeve) to ride. Did 17 miles today, longest of the
>season thus far... damn cold.

Don't worry, I'm sure it will warm up soon enough.

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