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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / May 2008

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A couple road photos from El Paso, USA

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Carl Rogers - 29 May 2008 10:12 GMT
Hi Viatologists,

Good morning!  We've added a couple photos of US Business Federal Route 54
in El Paso:

http://www.wwtl.info/tmp/2905

Come see the route at her southern terminus -- she interchanges w/ a
well-known, local freeway!  Glancing inwards, you may notice a little "A" in
the bottom lefthand corner of the Federal Route shield.  This could
plausibly stand for "alternate", though I don't have time to further
research it, and I really don't care what it means anyways.

Enjoy!  We offer more photographs of the many US Federal Route types,
retired and active.

Cheers,

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Andrew Tompkins - 30 May 2008 19:09 GMT
> Hi Viatologists,
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> could plausibly stand for "alternate", though I don't have time to
> further research it, and I really don't care what it means anyways.

For those who are interested in what that little 'A' stands for (any
connoisseur of road signs would be, as it is not a commonly used form),
it is the way that TXDOT differentiates between different Business
Routes along any given highway.  The letters are not given
consecutively, but rather based on the business route's location along
the primary route in the state.  A business route near the west or north
end of a primary route in the state would be given the letter 'A' or
'B', one near the east or south end would be given the letter 'Y' or
'Z', and one near the middle would be given the letter 'M' or 'N'.  In
US-54's case, the primary route ends in El Paso (its west end), so El
Paso's US-54 Bus is given the letter 'A'.  There are no other US-54
Bus's currently in TX but there are a number of US hwys that have a good
number of Business Routes in TX.

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--Andy

Larry Harvilla - 31 May 2008 08:51 GMT
>> Hi Viatologists,
>>
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> Bus's currently in TX but there are a number of US hwys that have a good
> number of Business Routes in TX.

Close, but not quite: the letters are, in fact, given out consecutively,
and most if not all routes never see their Business Route suffixes reach
the end of the alphabet. (I-35 is a notable exception, as IIRC,
Gainesville has a BUS I-35Z.) Other than that, you're essentially right
about the western/southernmost Business Route getting A, and increasing
through the alphabet as one goes north/east.

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Andrew Tompkins - 31 May 2008 22:27 GMT
>>> Hi Viatologists,
>>>
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> about the western/southernmost Business Route getting A, and increasing
> through the alphabet as one goes north/east.

For US-59 (note the north to south direction):

Bus (D) Carthage
Bus (F) Nacogdoches
Bus (G) Lufkin
Bus (J) Livingston
Bus (L) Splendora
Bus (R) Wharton
Bus (S) El Campo
Bus (T) Victoria
Bus (X) George West

For US-87:

Bus (B) Dalhart
Bus (G) Lubbock
Bus (K) Lamesa
Bus (U) Stockdale

For US-84:

Bus (E) Slaton
Bus (G) Snyder
Bus (H) Hermleigh
Bus (J) Roscoe
Bus (R) Teague

For other examples in the US hwy system, check
http://home.teleport.com/~andytom/Highways/stuff/TXhwys.html

This is the US route master list for the Clinched Highway tracker which
came from the TXDOT designation file system.  As rare as it is to see a
'Z', its just as rare to see an 'A' in the US Bus hwys of TX.

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--Andy

Adam Prince - 31 May 2008 14:52 GMT
> Hi Viatologists,
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> plausibly stand for "alternate", though I don't have time to further
> research it, and I really don't care what it means anyways.

I'm confused.  The other Business US Federal Route Photos on the site
lists them as just US Routes. The captions read as follows:

"Business Route 20 connects US-20 with Toledo, OR."

"Up until the 1990's, US-101 ran through Cloverdale, Mendocino County
as a surface-street.  Since then, she became re-routed onto an eastern
bypass.  These days, this original stretch is marked as Business Route
101."

"Business Route 395 is the historic US-395 stretch in Reno, with much
of its routing overlaying Virginia Street.  Near its northern terminus
w/ US-395, Virginia Street (sans Bus. 395) veers to a slight left and
becomes a frontage road into Red Rock and Cold Springs. "

Could you kindly please explain the difference in terminology?
 
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