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somewhat OT: changing things

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Brent P - 30 May 2008 02:06 GMT
As in many a thread we are told if we don't like speed limits or
whatever to change things... to get elected and change things... also
one of the tin-foil-hat things I've been accused of is the problem of
how election law blocks parties besides the Ds and Rs.

Today's news:

http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-re
strictions/


RALEIGH . A Superior Court judge ruled May 27 that .there is no
fundamental right for a voter to vote for the party of their choice. and
threw out the state Libertarian Party.s challenge to North Carolina.s
elections laws.

<...>

.The more parties there are that are recognized by the State and that
place candidates on the ballot, the greater the chance there is for
ballots that are so long as to be unwieldy and to risk voter confusion
and frustration of the electoral process,. Judge Hobgood wrote.

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MLOM - 30 May 2008 03:21 GMT
On May 29, 8:06 pm, Brent P <tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> As in many a thread we are told if we don't like speed limits or
> whatever to change things... to get elected and change things... also
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>
> <...>

What do you expect from a judge?  They are not elected.
Nate Nagel - 30 May 2008 03:38 GMT
> On May 29, 8:06 pm, Brent P <tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> What do you expect from a judge?  They are not elected.

Some of them are.  I don't know if this one was or not.

"confusion and frustration?"  Just exactly HOW stupid does he think that
people are?  Jumpin' Jesus on a pogo stick, if you can't pick out the
name of the person or party you want to vote for on a ballot, you really
shouldn't be voting.  Has our educational system really failed that
badly, or is this judge just an asshat?  If I lived in NC I'd be
personally insulted by the implications of his statement.

nate

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necromancer - 31 May 2008 09:04 GMT
>"confusion and frustration?"  Just exactly HOW stupid does he think that
>people are?  Jumpin' Jesus on a pogo stick, if you can't pick out the
>name of the person or party you want to vote for on a ballot, you really
>shouldn't be voting.  Has our educational system really failed that
>badly, or is this judge just an asshat?  If I lived in NC I'd be
>personally insulted by the implications of his statement.

How stupid that people are? You did follow the 2000 election and all
the idiocy that happened in FloriDUH, didn't you?  ;)

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Matthew T. Russotto - 30 May 2008 04:12 GMT
>As in many a thread we are told if we don't like speed limits or
>whatever to change things... to get elected and change things... also
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>threw out the state Libertarian Party.s challenge to North Carolina.s
>elections laws.

To underscore your point:
Had it been a Democrat or Republican excluded by the elections laws,
the court would have ruled the other way.  Just as New Jersey's top
court ruled when the Democrats wanted to put Frank Lautenberg on the
ballot long after the filing deadline had passed.
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