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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / July 2008Very small damage: $600 in repair?
I was walking with a hockey stick and accidently hit a car. Unfortunately, the car's owner was in the car... No one looked at the damage thinking that there was none. A few weeks later we played against each other. He told me, "It's gonna cost you $600!". I took it as a joke at that time. Tonight he told me again the same thing. Now I know he's serious. How many of you would pay after being shown a repair bill of $600 he has? Of course, I can just tell him to forget about it, but he knows where to find my car on the arena's properties and do some damage on my car. I guess I can park elsewhere. >I was walking with a hockey stick and accidently hit a car. >Unfortunately, the car's owner was in the car... No one looked at the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >where to find my car on the arena's properties and do some damage on >my car. I guess I can park elsewhere. US$600.00 even for cosmetic damage sounds a bit low to me. -- "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." --George Carlin > I was walking with a hockey stick and accidently hit a car. > How many of you would pay after being shown a repair bill of $600 he > has? That's a problem with making cars that break with the slightest bump. A simple repair now often necessitates replacing whole door panels, partly because insurance pays for the pricey replacement parts but not custom repair jobs. Try bumping a "bumper" anymore and it could cost $3,000 to replace it. They have so many stupid sensors and weak plastics that a bumper can't be hit anymore. I saw a pick-up truck driver who bought the truck without the custom metal frame and appeared to have bumped it while driving off-road. The corner of the bumper was dented, which shifted and cracked the rest of the bumper. Why have a bumper if you can't bump it? In message <d393338a-2a02-4fd4-a81e-50606b5366e2@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, >I was walking with a hockey stick and accidently hit a car. So you admit you are responsible. >No one looked at the damage thinking that there was none. BIG mistake. You should have stepped up, taken responsibility for your negligence, and started the repair process right then and there. >A few weeks later we played >against each other. He told me, "It's gonna cost you $600!". Tell him to bring you the repair bill and you will gladly pay it. >How many of you would pay after being shown a repair bill of $600 he >has? Anyone with any morals at all would immediately pay it and apologize profusely. >Of course, I can just tell him to forget about it, but he knows >where to find my car on the arena's properties and do some damage on >my car. I guess I can park elsewhere. That speaks volumes about YOUR morals.  SignaturePlease remember not to feed ANY of the trolls - we want them ALL to starve. "mikesmith9999@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9999@hotmail.com> wrote in news:d393338a-2a02-4fd4-a81e-50606b5366e2@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups. com: > I was walking with a hockey stick and accidently hit a car. > Unfortunately, the car's owner was in the car... Yeah, it's a bitch when you damage someone's property and they KNOW it was you, eh? > No one looked > at the damage thinking that there was none. A few weeks later we > played against each other. He told me, "It's gonna cost you > $600!". I took it as a joke at that time. Tonight he told me > again the same thing. Now I know he's serious. > How many of you would pay after being shown a repair bill of > $600 he has? Of course, I can just tell him to forget about it, > but he knows where to find my car on the arena's properties and > do some damage on my car. I guess I can park elsewhere. Or you can man up and turn a wrong into a right. For some reason I don't think that's going to happen, however. > "mikesmith9999@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9999@hotmail.com> wrote in > news:d393338a-2a02-4fd4-a81e-50606b5366e2@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Or you can man up and turn a wrong into a right. For some reason I > don't think that's going to happen, however. I'd want the bill to be itemized and have the option of getting a second estimate elsewhere.Repair bills can get "padded" and other non-related things added. Cellphone cams are handy for documenting collision damage. How much damage can a hockey stick do in an accidental bump? SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net >> "mikesmith9999@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9999@hotmail.com> wrote in >> news:d393338a-2a02-4fd4-a81e-50606b5366e2@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >estimate elsewhere.Repair bills can get "padded" and other non-related >things added. All for under $600? I don't think so... Repairing a damaged bumper cover can cost more than that, and that's just in parts cost. It still has to be painted and the paint blended to the surrounding panels. Offhand, it sounds like the OP is getting off cheap. This reminds me of a story: when I bought my current house, we had the usual termite inspection done, and it turned up some damage and an infestation. The original quote was for a few hundred dollars. The cheap bastards who sold us the house thought they were being ripped off, so they went and got a second estimate from a second termite company. The second company said that the house needed to be fumigated, at a cost of almost THREE THOUSAND dollars! And yes, they ended up paying me the full amount at the close of escrow. The moral of this little story is it might not be prudent for the OP to dig around too much - the results might not be exactly what he expects. :) SignaturePlease remember not to feed ANY of the trolls - we want them ALL to starve. >>> "mikesmith9999@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9999@hotmail.com> wrote in >>> news:d393338a-2a02-4fd4-a81e-50606b5366e2@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Offhand, it sounds like the OP is getting off cheap. I agree. When my mustang was backed into it was a big soft dent on the fender that crossed over a contour line. $950 to fix because they couldn't do it paintless. $600 seems reasonable if it can't be done paintless. I have small dent on my car that I caused. I fixed paintless as best as I could. It's just sorta wavy now. If I did all the trim removal, etc... the body shop would charge me $600 to fix it. > In message <Xns9AC7B9520FBBBjyanikkua...@64.209.0.84>, Jim Yanik > [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Yep, off cheap. A simple scratch will run that much. My local outfit who does a very good job won't do a 'touch-up'. They will only repaint the entire panel. Harry K > In message <Xns9AC7B9520FBBBjyanikkua...@64.209.0.84>, Jim Yanik > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > I don't think so... Repairing a damaged bumper cover can cost more > than that, and that's just in parts cost. Besides the OP having never mentioned a bumper cover, what parts do you think would be needed to "repair" a bumper cover struck as hard as humanly possible with a hockey stick? > It still has to be painted > and the paint blended to the surrounding panels. Blending the color does not cost extra. > Offhand, it sounds like the OP is getting off cheap. Offhand, it sounds like you don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about. ----- - gpsman > > In message <Xns9AC7B9520FBBBjyanikkua...@64.209.0.84>, Jim Yanik > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Offhand after getting a quote to fix a couple minor scratches on my bumper I would say you need a dose of reality. My quote was over $600 and I lived with the scratches. There were no dings, dents, etc. just scratch through the color coat. Wifes new car also has acquire a scratch on the rear bumper. I won't even ask for a quote on that. Harry K > Offhand after getting a quote to fix a couple minor scratches on my > bumper I would say you need a dose of reality. My quote was over $600 > and I lived with the scratches. There were no dings, dents, etc. just > scratch through the color coat. Wifes new car also has acquire a > scratch on the rear bumper. I won't even ask for a quote on that. They most likely quoted over $600 because they didn't want to screw with it... or you, or both. Most people are not bothered enough by a scratch to pay more than their deductible, or screw with an insurance claim and so will go away. I've squirted enough straight paint (for money) to know a monkey can do that part, if you could shave them and get them to tolerate a respirator. I could hand scuff it and touch it up and sand it down and buff it out and you'd never see it if you weren't looking for it, most colors. ----- - gpsman > I've squirted enough straight paint (for money) to know a monkey > can do that part, if you could shave them and get them to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it out and you'd never see it if you weren't looking for it, > most colors. How long has it been since you painted a car? > > I've squirted enough straight paint (for money) to know a monkey > > can do that part, if you could shave them and get them to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > How long has it been since you painted a car? On a car? A year. Why, has paint technology changed? ;) ----- - gpsman gpsman <gpsman@driversmail.com> wrote in news:c5396ec0-50cf-40c6- 9f1e-f03e41822e61@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com: >> > I've squirted enough straight paint (for money) to know a monkey >> > can do that part, if you could shave them and get them to [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Why, has paint technology changed? ;) Over the years, of course. In message <2a1de85b-0b9f-4b63-868f-79517811a6d7@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, >Offhand after getting a quote to fix a couple minor scratches on my >bumper I would say you need a dose of reality. My quote was over $600 >and I lived with the scratches. There were no dings, dents, etc. just >scratch through the color coat. Reality and facts never stop GPSTroll. He's quite happy to make up all sorts of blatantly obvious lies if he thinks it will help him take a swipe at someone. SignaturePlease remember not to feed ANY of the trolls - we want them ALL to starve. >> It still has to be painted >> and the paint blended to the surrounding panels. > > Blending the color does not cost extra. Anything that is blended looks like crap. Anyway, the car has a clear coat and the whole panel has to be recleared regardless of the base coat. On Jun 24, 12:31 am, "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I was walking with a hockey stick and accidently hit a car. > Unfortunately, the car's owner was in the car... No one looked at the > damage thinking that there was none. So it couldn't have been more than a light scratch? > A few weeks later we played > against each other. He told me, "It's gonna cost you $600!". What was it, a Bentley? > I took it > as a joke at that time. Tonight he told me again the same thing. Now I > know he's serious. > > How many of you would pay after being shown a repair bill of $600 he > has? None of these idiots I'd bet, but they all know you should. If I understand correctly, the damage was not brought to your attention until after the repair, so you never inspected it, and were never asked if you had a buddy in the body shop business? If that is the case, I sure as hell wouldn't pay it. ----- - gpsman > On Jun 24, 12:31 am, "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > - gpsman I think you have the best answer to my concerns. The damage repaired by the guy may have been made before or after the incident. I hit the side of the car, a few inches off the door. In message <4c679a8c-4162-43c7-be10-d0d9dafbb2c5@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>, >I think you have the best answer to my concerns. The damage repaired >by the guy may have been made before or after the incident. That's Karma biting you in the a.s. If you'd stepped up and taken responsibility immediately, instead of ignoring the problem and hoping it would just go away, you wouldn't have to worry about being stuck paying for damage you didn't cause. SignatureQ: What's the difference between a traffic snake and a real one? A: The traffic snake's a.shole at the *front* end. I will see the guy in a few days. I would like to settle that one once for all. It alwals stays at the back of mind, so that's not good. I met the guy. It turned out to be a joke. There was never a damage. Gee! > I met the guy. It turned out to be a joke. There was never a damage. But that sounded like it was an attempt at insurance fraud. > > I met the guy. It turned out to be a joke. There was never a damage. > > But that sounded like it was an attempt at insurance fraud. Actually, the car is not even his! He was in the passenger seat, and another man was in the driver's seat. I thought that sometimes you let your friends trying your car. The first times he mentionned the car, I really thought it was a joke. It's only after that I injured his hockey teamate that he sounded serious about it. He really made it looked like he was serious. When I talked to him last time, he laughed saying. "I was lying. I don't even have a car". The case is closed as far as I am concerned. >>> I met the guy. It turned out to be a joke. There was never a damage. >> But that sounded like it was an attempt at insurance fraud. > > Actually, the car is not even his! He was in the passenger seat, and > another man was in the driver's seat. You could tell him that you sent a report to the insurance company, and that the vehicle owner can expect to be contacted about this fraudulent $600 claim. That could be a joke too. > >>> I met the guy. It turned out to be a joke. There was never a damage. > >> But that sounded like it was an attempt at insurance fraud. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that the vehicle owner can expect to be contacted about this fraudulent > $600 claim. That could be a joke too. Nice one! |
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