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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / June 2008Top Gear: BMW M3 beats Prius in fuel economy
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp "It was one of the dullest drives of my life, but in the interest of science I stuck with it," Clarkson said. "Seriously, what I'm saying is, it isn't what you drive that matters, it's how you drive it. That is everything." > http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp > > "It was one of the dullest drives of my life, but in the interest of > science I stuck with it," Clarkson said. "Seriously, what I'm saying is, > it isn't what you drive that matters, it's how you drive it. That is > everything." Another ridiculous Top Gear comparison. These guys may be amusing, but they are also full of s#$%. They ran the Prius flat out on a test track - not something it was designed to do. Ed > >http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Ed Well, it just proves exactly what was said- its how you drive it. If you're a club-footed dolt, you'll get crappy mileage. Dave >> >http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Dave Did you read the article? It was written in a deliberately miss leading style - particualrly the first paragraph. Rubbish journalism. The final conclusion is valid, but in fact I doubt that anyone coming close to obeying the laws when driving on a US public road (or British for that matter) would be able to get better mileage in an M3 than in a Prius. Ed Ed >>> >http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >>> >>> Ed there have been a few of these comparisons in past months. the first i saw was an m5 diesel vs a hybrid (prius?) long distance across part of europe. a lot of steady speed driving. conclusion was: own a hybrid for daily work commute and shopping. rent something bigger for the vacation drive. >> Well, it just proves exactly what was said- its how you drive it. >> If you're a club-footed dolt, you'll get crappy mileage. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the laws when driving on a US public road (or British for that matter) would > be able to get better mileage in an M3 than in a Prius. if you don't mind restricting your travel to approximately parabolic routes, you could get even better mpg by catapult. (especially with a tailwind) > > http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Ed Whether it was designed to do it or not, it did point up that simply having a Prius is no guarantee you're going to get good mileage: how you drive matters too.  Signature"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" -- "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone "It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X) '[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' -- 'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM) 'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun) > http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp > > "It was one of the dullest drives of my life, but in the > interest of science I stuck with it," Clarkson said. "Seriously, > what I'm saying is, it isn't what you drive that matters, it's > how you drive it. That is everything." I guess my answer is "so what?" Anyone can mock up a test to favor one vehicle over another. What counts is real-world driving. This test was far from that. 10 laps flat out. Get real. >> http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > one vehicle over another. What counts is real-world driving. This > test was far from that. 10 laps flat out. Get real. And I say, where's the sense of humour? >>> http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > And I say, where's the sense of humour? http://youtube.com/watch?v=-BImIaN4qyE >>> http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > And I say, where's the sense of humour? Ha Ha Ha..... I only object for the way the newspaper article was written. The first paragraph suggested that this stunt somehow had some bearing on a London plan to reduce traffic congestion. Ed >>>> http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp >>>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > paragraph suggested that this stunt somehow had some bearing on a London > plan to reduce traffic congestion. The absurdity of the congestion tax and it's exceptions for politically correct vehicles is a running joke. Top Gear previously made fun of this when they used that micro car that was slightly less portable than a bicycle.... how for it they had to pay a congestion tax but the hybrid SUV camera car didn't require one. This thing was so small in one scene a guy is driving it in the isles between cubicals. > > http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > one vehicle over another. What counts is real-world driving. This > test was far from that. 10 laps flat out. Get real. 10 laps flat out for a Prius, that's not exactly moving very fast... Signature"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" -- "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone "It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X) '[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' -- 'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM) 'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun) >http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp > >"It was one of the dullest drives of my life, but in the interest of >science I stuck with it," Clarkson said. "Seriously, what I'm saying is, >it isn't what you drive that matters, it's how you drive it. That is >everything." He is absolutely 100% correct. I can get ~30 MPG on the freeway at 75 MPH in my 400HP V8 Corvette IF I leave it in 6th gear, engage the cruise control, and keep my feet off the pedals. SignatureQ: What's the difference between a traffic snake and a real one? A: The traffic snake's a.shole at the *front* end. > http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp > > "It was one of the dullest drives of my life, but in the interest of > science I stuck with it," Clarkson said. "Seriously, what I'm saying is, > it isn't what you drive that matters, it's how you drive it. That is > everything." If the Prius they tested only got 14PMG, something is seriously wrong with their car or their testing methodology. I drive a 2008 Prius and I routinely get around 46MPG and on long drives, it hovers around 50MPG. >> http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >with their car or their testing methodology. I drive a 2008 Prius and I >routinely get around 46MPG and on long drives, it hovers around 50MPG. Were you driving that Prius "as fast as possible?" I have no problem whatsoever believing that a Prius gets only 14 MPG at 105+ MPH. At that speed, the wimpy little gasoline engine is probably doing ALL of the work. SignatureQ: What's the difference between a traffic snake and a real one? A: The traffic snake's a.shole at the *front* end. > >> http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp > >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > at 105+ MPH. At that speed, the wimpy little gasoline engine is > probably doing ALL of the work. I drive the speed limit. For example, today, I put a lot of miles on the NJ turnpike where the speed limit is 65MPH and I got around 45MPG. >> >> http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2445.asp >> >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >I drive the speed limit. So is that a problem with their car or with their testing methodology? SignatureQ: What's the difference between a traffic snake and a real one? A: The traffic snake's a.shole at the *front* end. |
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