It's all starting to come together.
For years now, "Buy Here, Pay Here" used car lots have been
selling/leasing cars to people with poor credit.
http://www.courses.psu.edu/hd_fs/hd_fs597_rxj9/auto.htm
They fit your car with an electronic device that prevents it from
starting unless you punch in a code. The code changes every week;
coincidentally, your paymets are also due once a week, and you don't
get the new code unless you actually make the payment. Some of them
even have embedded GPS receivers and radio transponders to make
repossession easier.
You may also recall the proposal to tax drivers based on the nuber of
miles they drive, rather than on the amount of fuel they buy.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-09-20-roads_N.htm?csp=34
This plan involves fitting cars with another electronic gizmo with an
embedded GPS receiver and radio transponder.
Yesterday I reported on a new scheme whereby insurance companies would
offer discounts (or surcharges) based on actual driving behavior as
monitored by an electronic device in your car that is connected to a
GPS receiver, a cellular radio network, and the local computer network
inside your car that the car's various embedded computer modules use
to exchange information. For the moment, they only relay odometer,
acceleration, and braking data, but the potential is there for much
more.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121443810954605365.html?mod=hpp_us_inside_today
And, of course we all remember the exciting new Dash Express, a
navigation system which promises real-time traffic data via a two-way
network connection to your car. In exchange for your own telemetry
data, you get an aggregate version of everyone else's telemetry data
which can be used to make routing decisions.
http://www.dash.net/product/traffic.php
Looks like the Military Industrial Complex that Ike warned us about is
putting all the pieces in place to make all of these things and many
more a reality. Big Government and Big Business have joined forces to
serve their common need: to manipulate and controll the masses. The
carrots offered to entice early adopters will be lower insurance
premiums, the ability to automatically route around traffic
congestion, stolen vehicle recovery, automatic connection to emergency
services when your airbags deploy, electronic toll collection, etc.
etc. That gets their foot in the door - or, rather, it gets their
electronic gizmo into your car.
Once the installed base of tracking devices reaches critical mass,
then the REAL fun will begin.

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Q: What's the difference between a traffic snake and a real one?
A: The traffic snake's a.shole at the *front* end.
Choise76Smu@EhOhEll.Net - 28 Jun 2008 04:35 GMT
> It's all starting to come together.
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> more a reality. Big Government and Big Business have joined forces to
> serve their common need: to manipulate and controll the masses. The
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> etc. That gets their foot in the door - or, rather, it gets their
> electronic gizmo into your car.
data processing tech gets cheaper, while ill intentions exist perpetually.
> Once the installed base of tracking devices reaches critical mass,
> then the REAL fun will begin.
fsm bless the crackers
Brent P - 28 Jun 2008 06:39 GMT
> You may also recall the proposal to tax drivers based on the nuber of
> miles they drive, rather than on the amount of fuel they buy.
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> This plan involves fitting cars with another electronic gizmo with an
> embedded GPS receiver and radio transponder.
A few days ago I posted an article on a study that showed even high tech
tolling cost $22 for every $100 collected while fuel taxes cost $0.88
per $100 dollars collected.
Any such scheme would not serve to bring in more revenue, it would
merely be for the control grid.
> Looks like the Military Industrial Complex that Ike warned us about is
> putting all the pieces in place to make all of these things and many
> more a reality. Big Government and Big Business have joined forces to
> serve their common need: to manipulate and controll the masses.
Welcome to 21st century fascism. What do you expect with a 3rd
generation fascist as president? (For those of you who don't know,
Shrub's grandfather was part of a corporate funding of Hitler and
supposedly part of the plot unconvered by General Butler to overthrow
the US federal government.)
> The
> carrots offered to entice early adopters will be lower insurance
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> etc. That gets their foot in the door - or, rather, it gets their
> electronic gizmo into your car.
> Once the installed base of tracking devices reaches critical mass,
> then the REAL fun will begin.
And all the sheeple will say, "What's the problem unless you have
something to hide". Recycle my example of someone who is squeaky clean
but who's commute took him past a strip club that decides to run for
office.
necromancer - 28 Jun 2008 13:28 GMT
>Welcome to 21st century fascism. What do you expect with a 3rd
>generation fascist as president? (For those of you who don't know,
>Shrub's grandfather was part of a corporate funding of Hitler and
>supposedly part of the plot unconvered by General Butler to overthrow
>the US federal government.)
God bless america (sic).... or.... How could 59,054,087 people be so
DUMB?
--
President (sic) George W Bush says something intelligent:
Nate Nagel - 28 Jun 2008 14:14 GMT
>>Welcome to 21st century fascism. What do you expect with a 3rd
>>generation fascist as president? (For those of you who don't know,
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> --
> President (sic) George W Bush says something intelligent:
Let's not be to harsh to judge... remember that Henry Ford (the first)
was also a supporter of Hitler's. It wasn't until the 40's (e.g. well
into the war) when the full extent of the Holocaust became widely known.
Yes, it was a poor political decision to support a fascist (not in
name, but in effect) but then again, we elected Shrub. Twice. Of
course, on the flip side, Ford was also quite the anti-semite... people
excoriate German companies like Siemens, VW etc. for their association
with Hitler but we still buy Fords by the trainload.
I guess the point I wanted to make, though, was that I think Shrub's
incompetence stands on its own merits without needing to drag Prescott
into it.
nate

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Brent P - 28 Jun 2008 20:40 GMT
>>>Welcome to 21st century fascism. What do you expect with a 3rd
>>>generation fascist as president? (For those of you who don't know,
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> was also a supporter of Hitler's. It wasn't until the 40's (e.g. well
> into the war) when the full extent of the Holocaust became widely known.
Fascism was trendy, that is certain.
> Yes, it was a poor political decision to support a fascist (not in
> name, but in effect) but then again, we elected Shrub. Twice. Of
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> incompetence stands on its own merits without needing to drag Prescott
> into it.
It's not just incompetence. There is an underlying shift based on facist
principles. The concentration of power in the executive.