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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / July 2008observations on left-lane rolling
(heh - rolling - no, I don't mean rolling joints - I do that before I leave home). But seriously folks, I often find myself driving down I-25 which is 2 lanes (each way) where I usually drive and I often see "opportunities" to enter the right lane. Often I take those opportunities since I can pass on the right and then again merge left. But a lot of times, there really isn't room to merge without performing crazy maneuvers to jump in front of someone else and I prefer not to do that so I remain in line in the left lane. Lots of folks do this and so you often have situations where you could accelerate up to a half-mile in the right-hand lane, but then be stuck waiting for a gap to pass. In fact I did just that yesterday. I was cruising in the left-hand lane a reasonable distance from the car in front of me and saw space in the right-hand lane and tried to take it. I merged right and the cars in the left-hand lane accelerate enough to make the gaps too narrow for me to risk - I could have taken the gaps - I've seen others do so, but I don't treat interstate as racetracks and my car is not equipped with all the safety devices that are required by NASCAR. So I give up and put on my signal to merge back left as I slow down to let traffic speed up enough for me to safely merge back into the left-hand lane. The guy who used to be behind me (still in the left hand-lane) starts speeding up. In fact even after my signal is on and I've already re-merged into the left lane, he continues to speed up until he is within about 2 feet of my rear bumper. After a couple of minutes, I guess he shot his wad and went back to following at a reasonable distance. So the subject says this is just an observation and the above is just an observation, but WTF is up with you drivers who speed up just to try to cut someone off? And what the f.ck are you thinking when you're way behind them and have no hope of cutting them off and even after they are in your lane you continue to speed up and tailgate them? You should lose our license - such behavior should be expected if we allowed 5-year olds to drive. Perhaps a maturity test to get a driver's license should be in order. > (heh - rolling - no, I don't mean rolling joints - I do that before I > leave home). [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > allowed 5-year olds to drive. Perhaps a maturity test to get a driver's > license should be in order. Please tell me that you're in a "drive left, pass right" country and not in the US... nate  Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel > I was cruising in the left-hand lane a reasonable distance from the car > in front of me and saw space in the right-hand lane and tried to take > it. I merged right and the cars in the left-hand lane accelerate enough > to make the gaps too narrow for me to risk Why weren't you passing the car that was in front of you, instead of worrying about the drivers who were behind you? The only gap that you should have been merging into was in front of the car that was in front of you. If you were attempting to pass several cars and the traffic in the passing lane was going faster than you wanted to drive, you should not have entered the passing lane. > So I give up and put on my signal to merge back left as I slow down to > let traffic speed up enough for me to safely merge back into the > left-hand lane. You should have continued passing. Maybe the other drivers behind you were also trying to pass. > The guy who used to be behind me (still in the left hand-lane) starts > speeding up. In fact even after my signal is on and I've already [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > observation, but WTF is up with you drivers who speed up just to try to > cut someone off? Tailgating instead of passing is not cutting someone off. It indicates that the driver is incompetent and needs to play Duckling. What you were doing was improper passing, which caused confusion with the drivers behind you. I will sometimes follow the car in front of me to pass, because I'm entering the same gap in the passing lane. If you try to cancel your pass after I've started accelerating, I will also be forced to brake to avoid hitting you as you return to the outermost lane. Then I can't use the gap anymore because I've stopped accelerating, and I need to wait for another gap in the traffic. The drivers in the passing lane have right-of-way. You must continue accelerating once you have started passing, and you must yield to faster traffic in the passing lane. As long as you're doing the speed limit you have a right and a moral obligation to stay in the left lane. It forces the deadly and psychopathic speeders to slow down and thereby saves lives. SFB spewed: > As long << snip crap >> > saves lives. AAAAAAAAAAAA... Shaddap! You suck, luzer! -- S tupid A ssed D ipshit D oesn't A mount to M uch > I often find myself driving down I-25 which is 2 > lanes (each way) where I usually drive and I often see "opportunities" > to enter the right lane. Often I take those opportunities since I can > pass on the right and then again merge left. Why? > But a lot of times, there really isn't room to merge without performing > crazy maneuvers to jump in front of someone else and I prefer not to do > that so I remain in line in the left lane. That sounds like a good idea. > Lots of folks do this and so you often have situations where you could > accelerate up to a half-mile in the right-hand lane, but then be stuck > waiting for a gap to pass. > > In fact I did just that yesterday. Why? 50mph faster for a whole mile = a few seconds (24 using 65 and 115mph), all of which you begin to lose if you have to stop at the end of the exit. > I was cruising in the left-hand lane a reasonable distance from the car > in front of me and saw space in the right-hand lane and tried to take > it. Yer from California, aren't you? You "saw a space"... so you took it...? Why do I have the feeling this is going to lead to a "problem"? > I merged right and the cars in the left-hand lane accelerate enough > to make the gaps too narrow for me to risk - I could have taken the gaps > - I've seen others do so, but I don't treat interstate as racetracks Aren't you trying to pass... on the R... for no other reason than to "get ahead"? > So I give up and put on my signal to merge back left as I slow down to > let traffic speed up enough for me to safely merge back into the > left-hand lane. Good luck with that. > The guy who used to be behind me (still in the left hand-lane) starts > speeding up. In fact even after my signal is on and I've already > re-merged into the left lane, he continues to speed up until he is > within about 2 feet of my rear bumper. He's like you, measures his trips in car-lengths. > After a couple of minutes, I guess he shot his wad and went back to > following at a reasonable distance. They usually do. > So the subject says this is just an observation and the above is just an > observation, but WTF is up with you drivers who speed up just to try to > cut someone off? To be fair, you don't know why he increased velocity. Most likely, he measures his trips in car-lengths. You, got out of line, obviously mistakenly, because you didn't look far enough ahead to insure the maneuver was of benefit. Your former space now belongs to the driver to your rear. He's possibly thinking, as I so often do, "Where in the f.ck do you think you're going", can you not see it's NOWHERE"?! But, if I had been behind you, I wouldn't have closed the gap, because I don't measure my trips in car-lengths. > And what the f.ck are you thinking when you're way > behind them and have no hope of cutting them off and even after they are > in your lane you continue to speed up and tailgate them? Obviously, that's just stupid. > You should lose our license - such behavior should be expected if we > allowed 5-year olds to drive. Perhaps a maturity test to get a driver's > license should be in order. Perhaps. But you are not as good a driver as you think you are. You do not look far enough ahead, by a long shot. It's easy and tempting to point out the driving errors of others, a little tougher to concentrate on your own. ----- - gpsman > You, got out of line, obviously mistakenly, because you didn't look > far enough ahead to insure the maneuver was of benefit. Your former > space now belongs to the driver to your rear. What a f.cking moron you are. Sorry but I don't drive an SUV so it's hard to see too far ahead. I move right - I could pass and dangerously swerve in front of the car ahead of me, but I don't because I'm not that stupid. So I move back to the left lane. Meanwhile - the idiot (just like you) who was a quarter mile behind me starts to speed up until he's riding my a.s. Just get the f.ck off the road. You're obviously too stupid to drive. it shouldn't be a f.cking line. Slower traffic SHOULD keep right. It's the law, a.shole. > > You, got out of line, obviously mistakenly, because you didn't look > > far enough ahead to insure the maneuver was of benefit. Your former > > space now belongs to the driver to your rear. > > What a f.cking moron you are. Thanks for the reminder. > Sorry but I don't drive an SUV so it's hard to see too far ahead. Have you tried... looking...? > I move right - I could pass and dangerously swerve in front of the car > ahead of me, but I don't because I'm not that stupid. Eh... I'll give you that. You're not among the worst of drivers, just about average. You didn't report a "move right", as if you were making way for faster traffic to your rear. You reported- "<I> saw space in the right-hand lane and tried to take it." That was preceded by- "I often see "opportunities" to enter the right lane. Often I take those opportunities since I can pass on the right and then again merge left." Let us assume you changed lanes to pass, and traffic was of a density that rendered any advantage of passing effectively moot. You can see that f.cking far ahead, can't you? > So I move back to the left lane. Meanwhile - the idiot (just like you) > who was a quarter mile behind me starts to speed up until he's riding my > a.s. Yeah, I got that part. You seem to have missed the point of my reply. > Just get the f.ck off the road. You're obviously too stupid to drive. Yes, of course. > it shouldn't be a f.cking line. Then why were you in it? And what does it matter what "should be" at any particular moment? You are dealing with what "is". > Slower traffic SHOULD keep right. It's > the law, a.shole. You now imply you were intending to go slower... and, for some reason, found the R lane unacceptable for that maneuver?! Obviously you are injecting something other than logic into your argument... for some reason. ----- - gpsman >>>You, got out of line, obviously mistakenly, because you didn't look >>>far enough ahead to insure the maneuver was of benefit. Your former [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Thanks for the reminder. If only other drivers accepted the reminder so kindly. >>Sorry but I don't drive an SUV so it's hard to see too far ahead. > > Have you tried... looking...? Well, yes - I look - I see a big-assed SUV in front of me. I move a little left onto the shoulder and often see a half-mile of empty road in front of him. Sometimes I move a little right and see that despite a half-mile of cars in the left-hand lane, there is a mile of empty space in the right. >>I move right - I could pass and dangerously swerve in front of the car >>ahead of me, but I don't because I'm not that stupid. > > Eh... I'll give you that. Thanks - if I took every space that I might be able to, I'd probably succeed 98% of the time - it's that other 2% of the time that I don't want to deal with. > You're not among the worst of drivers, just about average. > > You didn't report a "move right", as if you were making way for faster > traffic to your rear. You reported- "<I> saw space in the right-hand > lane and tried to take it." Yes, that's true...I "moved right" not because someone was riding my a.s, but because I saw a herd of sheep in the left lane and fewer in the right. I think more people should try it. > That was preceded by- "I often see "opportunities" to enter the right > lane. Often I take those opportunities since I can pass on the right > and then again merge left." > > Let us assume you changed lanes to pass, and traffic was of a density > that rendered any advantage of passing effectively moot. Okay - that is often the case. Sometimes I end up at the light at my exit in the exact same position among other cars as I was before - of course other times I make the light and leave those people I was behind waiting at the light, but for the sake of argument, let's assume the advantage of passing was effectivly moot. > You can see that f.cking far ahead, can't you? How many miles ahead should I be able to see? 20? That's about the length of my daily commute. >>So I move back to the left lane. Meanwhile - the idiot (just like you) >>who was a quarter mile behind me starts to speed up until he's riding my >>a.s. > > Yeah, I got that part. You seem to have missed the point of my reply. And you seem to have missed the point of my post >>Just get the f.ck off the road. You're obviously too stupid to drive. > > Yes, of course. Wow - a reasonable response - somehow I don't think you're serious. >>it shouldn't be a f.cking line. > > Then why were you in it? Perhaps that's why I got out of it? There are only 2 lanes to play with - did I misunderstand your earlier post? I thought you were saying I should stay in line. > And what does it matter what "should be" at any particular moment? > You are dealing with what "is". Ah - now here's something very interesting. Am I mixing up posts or didn't you say I should "plan" ahead better? Planning is an interesting thing in traffic especially when you are dealing with constantly changing conditions. Some folks signal an exit, but never do. Other's never signal an exit but then they do. So does clairvoyance factor into your planning ahead? Planning ahead is always a part of the plan for me. Approaching a traffic light, do I get behind the 18-wheeler, the Corvette or the econobox? Rarely is it that cut and dry, but don't count on the 'vette to be the right choice, but you can count on the 18-wheeler being the wrong one. >>Slower traffic SHOULD keep right. It's >>the law, a.shole. > > You now imply you were intending to go slower... No, you inferred that. I was actually intending on going faster - at least the speed limit (probably a little over). You obviously don't have much experience on freeways or interstates. > and, for some reason, > found the R lane unacceptable for that maneuver?! As is often the case (if you had any experience driving), you can often go faster in the right lane because idiots like you are clogging the passing lane. > Obviously you are injecting something other than logic into your > argument... for some reason. Unfortunately, traffic does not always follow logic. How long have you been driving? Where have you been driving? > ----- > > - gpsman > Approaching a traffic light, do I get behind the 18-wheeler, the > Corvette or the econobox? Sometimes the other drivers waiting in line are so Slothly that the truck driver accelerates faster. The trailer moves at the same time, while five cars are parked next to it, and you can cut in front of the Sloths as the tractor leaves the intersection. > > You, got out of line, obviously mistakenly, because you didn't look > > far enough ahead to insure the maneuver was of benefit. Your former [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > it shouldn't be a f.cking line. Slower traffic SHOULD keep right. It's > the law, a.shole. So just why are you 'rolling' (cruising) in the left lane? Your whole series of posts sounds like you make a habit of parking out there in the passing lane whenever possible. Harry K > (heh - rolling - no, I don't mean rolling joints - I do that before I > leave home). [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > allowed 5-year olds to drive. Perhaps a maturity test to get a driver's > license should be in order. If I understand your description accurately... You were in a line of cars in the left lane that were lined up, in the process of passing one or more cars in the right lane. You decided to pass on the right to get ahead of some of the cars in front of you, rather than taking your turn in getting past the slower vehicle, which was, after all, in the right lane. The folks in the left lane didn't like your taking cuts in line, so they didn't want to let you in. And you're surprised??? I see similar crap all the time. People squeeze in front of me, for example to get an exit, when there is a huge area behind me. They just have to pass one car, dammit. Or when a street temporarily goes to two lanes and then back to one lane, they'll goose it to get ahead of traffic going the speed limit, thereby forcing everyone else to slow down. Just plain rude. Tailgating that close was inexcusable, though. It's a common way of trying to aggravate a driver who ticked you off for some reason. Drivers of expensive cars usually don't do it to drivers of old beaters. It'd be a great time to have a releasable rear bumper.... |
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