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Reality_Check© - 25 Jul 2008 00:28 GMT Driver Beaten By Mob After Fatal Crash Teen Dies Day After Dirt Bike Struck Van
POSTED: 7:56 am EDT July 24, 2008 UPDATED: 4:53 pm EDT July 24, 2008
NEW HAVEN, Conn. -- Arnold Payne Sr. said he has a lot of questions about the crash that killed his son when the boy, riding a dirt bike, collided with a van.
"If he hit the back right side of the van, how did the van run him over with the back tires?" asked Payne. "That didn't happen."
Police said the 15-year-old, who had been on life support following the Wednesday night crash, died at Yale New Haven hospital around 3:30 a.m. on Thursday. He was identified as Quinell Payne.
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Police said minutes after the crash, a group of youths attacked and beat the van's driver. Officers said members of the mob kicked the driver in the head and face and that one of the teen assailants threatened to kill him.
"They beat him up, which I disagree with, because two wrongs don't make a right," Payne said.
Police said the boy ran a stop sign on the dirt bike and slammed into the side of the van at an intersection of Read and Sheffield streets.
Karl Gray told Eyewitness News that he lives near the scene of the crash and was reading when he heard the crunch of metal on metal.
"I heard something slam and then it sounded like the motor just fizzled," he said.
"I came running downstairs and saw the young man lying in the street," Gray said. "I told my daughter to call 911."
Both the teen and the van's driver, who witnesses said is an older man, were transported to Yale New Haven Hospital.
Quinnell was about to start his sophomore year at Hill House High School, his friends and family said. They said he loved playing football.
"It was a bad thing," said Tyguan McKnight, Quinnell Payne's friend. "He was everybody's friend. He was a cool person."
Police have not pressed any charges against anyone involved, but the mayor is calling on the people who beat up the driver to turn themselves in, officials said.
"You want to charge them for beating that driver for trying to flee, but you don't want to charge the driver for killing my son," said Payne.
Bama Brian - 25 Jul 2008 18:59 GMT > Driver Beaten By Mob After Fatal Crash > Teen Dies Day After Dirt Bike Struck Van [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Wednesday night crash, died at Yale New Haven hospital around 3:30 a.m. on > Thursday. He was identified as Quinell Payne. Interesting. Kid had a warrant out for his arrest, was riding a stolen dirtbike, ran a stop sign, and got killed. Then Daddy, a convicted felon out on parole, thinks the van's driver should be charged.
Uh-huh. Yawn.
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Reality_Check© - 25 Jul 2008 20:17 GMT >> Driver Beaten By Mob After Fatal Crash >> Teen Dies Day After Dirt Bike Struck Van [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Interesting. Kid had a warrant out for his arrest, was riding a stolen > dirtbike, ran a stop sign, and got killed. Interesting you think that kids accused of crimes should be killed with impunity.
> Then Daddy, a convicted felon out on parole, thinks the van's driver > should be charged. So the children of convicted felons can be killed with impunity in your repugnant world, eh Rightard?
Bo Raxo - 26 Jul 2008 00:06 GMT >>> Driver Beaten By Mob After Fatal Crash >>> Teen Dies Day After Dirt Bike Struck Van [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > So the children of convicted felons can be killed with impunity in > your repugnant world, eh Rightard? "Motorcycle Ran A Stop Sign, Hit Van, and Van Ran Over Rider" = Killed with Impunity?
Uh, the kid practically committed suicide. Nobody wanted him to die, but (and I say this as a long time motorcyclist) you run a stop sign while on a bike, you're probably going to get hurt or killed. The whole stolen vehicle angle makes for even less sympathy for the victim. The whole convicted felon angle makes for even less sympathy for the complaining father.
When you show a whole lot of bad judgment and end up getting yourself mangled, that isn't someone *else* acting with impunity, the impunity was all on the part of the dead teen.
Bo Raxo
_ Prof. Jonez _ - 26 Jul 2008 00:07 GMT > "Reality_Check©" <Reality@Check.it> wrote in message >> "Bama Brian" <bamaNOTbrian@mindspring.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > "Motorcycle Ran A Stop Sign, Hit Van, and Van Ran Over Rider" = > Killed with Impunity? Someone's gotta pay ...
> Uh, the kid practically committed suicide. Another crime ... this kid was such a loser.
> Nobody wanted him to die, > but (and I say this as a long time motorcyclist) you run a stop sign > while on a bike, you're probably going to get hurt or killed. The > whole stolen vehicle angle makes for even less sympathy for the > victim. The whole convicted felon angle makes for even less sympathy > for the complaining father. Riiiight. Because convicted felons in your world forfeit *all* their rights for the rest of their lives, eh bo?
> When you show a whole lot of bad judgment and end up getting yourself > mangled, that isn't someone *else* acting with impunity, the impunity > was all on the part of the dead teen. Sez bo raxo, the newly elected judge, jury and part-time executioner.
Harry K - 26 Jul 2008 03:18 GMT > >> Driver Beaten By Mob After Fatal Crash > >> Teen Dies Day After Dirt Bike Struck Van [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Interesting. You think that the innocent driver should be beaten. Strange but possibly not in _your_ universe.
Seems you also want an innocent driver to be charged with something - even stranger.
Harry K
tankfixer - 27 Jul 2008 04:39 GMT > >> Driver Beaten By Mob After Fatal Crash > >> Teen Dies Day After Dirt Bike Struck Van [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Interesting you think that kids accused of crimes should > be killed with impunity. How did the van driver kill the kid ? The kid ran the stop sign and hit the van.
> > Then Daddy, a convicted felon out on parole, thinks the van's driver > > should be charged. > > So the children of convicted felons can be killed with impunity in > your repugnant world, eh Rightard? The kid killed himself
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The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made so and kept so by the exertions of much better men than himself.
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_ Prof. Jonez _ - 28 Jul 2008 02:30 GMT >>>> Driver Beaten By Mob After Fatal Crash >>>> Teen Dies Day After Dirt Bike Struck Van [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > The kid killed himself Much like Pat Tillman did, eh ?
tankfixer - 28 Jul 2008 05:13 GMT > >>>> Driver Beaten By Mob After Fatal Crash > >>>> Teen Dies Day After Dirt Bike Struck Van [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Much like Pat Tillman did, eh ? Did he run a stop sign on a stolen bike and hit a van ? Nope.
Whenever you try and change the subject the readers know you are just conceding defeat.
 Signature War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.
The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made so and kept so by the exertions of much better men than himself.
John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873) English economist and philosopher.
_ Prof. Jonez _ - 28 Jul 2008 20:05 GMT >theprof@jonez.net says... >>> Reality@Check.it says... [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Did he run a stop sign on a stolen bike and hit a van ? He ran his delusion on misplaced patriotism and hit reality in the 'stan ... i.e. hot lead from his own troops.
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 26 Jul 2008 06:21 GMT > Interesting. Kid had a warrant out for his arrest, was riding a > stolen dirtbike, ran a stop sign, and got killed. Then Daddy, a > convicted felon out on parole, thinks the van's driver should be > charged. > > Uh-huh. Yawn. Hey stupid. what does the father's criminal record have to do with this?
martin - 26 Jul 2008 09:23 GMT >> Interesting. Kid had a warrant out for his arrest, was riding a >> stolen dirtbike, ran a stop sign, and got killed. Then Daddy, a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Hey stupid. what does the father's criminal record have to do with this? Let's just say that the acorn falls close to the tree, his father is obviously not the brightest spark in the wood-box. At least the criminal genes have been removed from the gene pool and he might even be eligible for a Darwin Award.
Benj - 26 Jul 2008 12:43 GMT > Interesting. Kid had a warrant out for his arrest, was riding a stolen > dirtbike, ran a stop sign, and got killed. Then Daddy, a convicted > felon out on parole, thinks the van's driver should be charged. > > Uh-huh. Yawn. No, you don't have it NEARLY bad enough. The kid was a minor, 15 years old riding a stolen dirt bike on the street which is illegal, he was a juvenile offender known to police who had been shot at several times in the past (indicating gang activities) and then ran a stop sign and hit a van.
Needless to say, all the participants were black including the crowd that chased the driver down and beat him. Here's your "black culture" in action. All illegal activities and crimes by your black buds are considered normal and not worthy of mention. But once you have even the slimmest excuse to beat and kill someone, you set upon them like a pack of wild animals no doubt strutting to the cheers of you fellow black teens just like the guy who beat the truck driver in California. It's even better if the guy you beat is old and unarmed so you can kill him for "allowing" your homie to kill himself with his illegal activities that you find so praise worthy.
But the disgusting "black culture" doesn' t end there. The crowd doing the beating accuses the driver of "driving over" the kid after he hit the van. (Police say he was not run over...which means his injuries were from hitting the truck at a high rate of speed which meant that not only was he illegally driving a stolen dirt bike on the street, but was speeding and driving recklessly as well.) The crowd (black) claimed that the driver "sped away" from the scene although people on foot somehow could catch the speeding van so as to kick and beat the driver senseless. And as icing on the cake, the father of the dead juvie, asserted to the media that "if the bike was stolen, his son didn't do it!". Right. He was a "good boy" just like Dad out on parole.
What a truly fine Third World example for black Americans! Do crimes, hurt yourself, and then have "black culture" there to make sure nobody talks and the innocent get attacked and blamed for YOUR crimes! This is animal behavior pure and simple. And I'd like to know when the Black community is going to start to decide that American Blacks don't need to live like some city in Nigeria. I want to know when the liberal white community is going to stop excusing all this animal behavior justified by "black culture". IT is NOT "racist" to point out the scam of "black culture" that American blacks are falling for. It is NOT "racist" to call crimes, crimes and punish the guilty regardless of color. I is NOT "racist" or anti-black to turn in your fellow blacks for crimes and illegal activies. Winking at crime and illegalities just means that everybody looses respect for the law. There you go. No respect for the law. Just like the Hell-holes in the homeland Africa. Sure, that's what we want for America, right? That'll work, especially since most victims of black crime are black!
OH WAIT! I've got it. Lets get Jesse Jackson down at the hospital protesting the suicide of this criminal in the making and protesting that the old van driver, didn't have enough sensitivity to die from his beating!
Feh.
Reality_Check© - 26 Jul 2008 20:45 GMT >> Interesting. Kid had a warrant out for his arrest, was riding a stolen >> dirtbike, ran a stop sign, and got killed. Then Daddy, a convicted [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > Feh. wismel@yahoo.com - 26 Jul 2008 01:13 GMT >Driver Beaten By Mob After Fatal Crash >Teen Dies Day After Dirt Bike Struck Van [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >"You want to charge them for beating that driver for trying to flee, but you >don't want to charge the driver for killing my son," said Payne. All involved are negroes.
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Reality_Check© - 26 Jul 2008 02:49 GMT >>Driver Beaten By Mob After Fatal Crash >>Teen Dies Day After Dirt Bike Struck Van [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] >> > All involved are negroes. Because your bigoted race-radar tells you so ?
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 26 Jul 2008 06:21 GMT Looks like the stupid kid was at fault.
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