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4 Idiot Teens Die In Montana Car Crash

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 27 Jul 2008 05:45 GMT
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/25862367/

Montana town loses 4 teens, and their hopes
Fatal car wreck killed 10 percent of student body from rural Denton High
   
updated 2:48 p.m. MT, Sat., July. 26, 2008

DENTON, Mont. - Here in rural Montana, ...Teenagers start driving as
early as 15, because it's usually a long way to where you want to go. And
they almost always play high school sports, mostly because there is
little else to do in a small town.

So on June 19, four boys piled into a car to play in a summer basketball
tournament in a neighboring town.

On the way, the car crashed, rolled and burned. Police say no speeding or
dangerous driving was involved, and they still aren't sure why the car
caught fire.

The wreck killed brothers Kale and Kade Phelps, as well as fellow players
Jace Jelinek and Dayne Heble. The oldest was 17, the youngest 14.

They were 10 percent of Denton High's student body.

(snip)

Montana always ranks high in per-capita traffic deaths, in part because
driving at high speed is not only part of the culture, it's also often
considered necessary to cover the state's long distances.

The tragedy is unlikely to change the ways of Denton. Teens will still
drive long distances across the state to compete against other towns.

-------------------

Article says no dangerous driving was involved but you can bet that's a
lie.  Cars don't crash on their own. These idiots were speeding or drunk
or doing something wrong and thank god they only killed themselves and
not someone else as usually happens.
Kadaitcha Man - 27 Jul 2008 06:15 GMT
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers aren't MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote his sh.t news:Xns9AE7E7798E084riemann1850yahoocom@216.168.3.70...

> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/25862367/
>
> Montana town loses 4 teens, and their hopes
> Fatal car wreck killed 10 percent of student body from rural Denton High

You're too obsessive dumbass with this topic.....Donchaknow?..........heeheeheee......
scenario_dave - 27 Jul 2008 18:23 GMT
According to the article you quoted " On the way, the car crashed,
rolled and burned. Police say no speeding or dangerous driving was
involved, and they still aren't sure why the car caught fire." There
was no speeding or dangerous driving (which would include drunk
driving) involved in the accident.

It always cracks me up when far left or far right supporters quote  an
article that directly contradicts the header of their post.

On Jul 27, 12:45 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/25862367/
>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> or doing something wrong and thank god they only killed themselves and
> not someone else as usually happens.
Bert Hyman - 27 Jul 2008 18:33 GMT
In
news:10b46b08-4ed1-40af-87e1-d69559d590c3@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
scenario_dave <scenario_dave@yahoo.com> wrote:

> It always cracks me up when far left or far right supporters quote  an
> article that directly contradicts the header of their post.

It always cracks me up that people continue to read posts from obvious
trolls and nut cases.

When they go on to comment on the posts as if they were to be taken
seriously, it becomes side-splittingly funny.

I'd normally suggest exercising your news client's killfile or filtering
mechanism, but you're a googlegrouper.

Signature

Bert Hyman    St. Paul, MN    bert@iphouse.com

scenario_dave - 28 Jul 2008 01:46 GMT
> Innews:10b46b08-4ed1-40af-87e1-d69559d590c3@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> --
> Bert Hyman      St. Paul, MN    b...@iphouse.com

I've been posting to the internet for about 12 years.  I use Google
groups because I prefer it.  In my experience killfiles aren't worth
the bother.

I've found that on most political sites it is difficult to tell the
trolls and the nut cases from serious posters.  Many people are deadly
serious about things that are patently idiotic.

According to many far right conservatives I've seen on the Internet,
science is meaningless and someone who spent years studying something
is no better qualified than someone who spent 5 minutes looking at it
on the internet.  Far left liberals are just as bad.  Anyone who is in
the politicle middle (liberals, centerist or conservatives) are
attacked.
Non scrivetemi - 28 Jul 2008 04:53 GMT
In article <67297b86-1fc8-4ee7-96bd-
7961ee4b762a@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>

> > Innews:10b46b08-4ed1-40af-87e1-d69559d590c3@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
> >
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> the politicle middle (liberals, centerist or conservatives) are
> attacked.

How did politics manage to get inserted into a vehicle accident?
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 27 Jul 2008 20:50 GMT
> According to the article you quoted " On the way, the car crashed,
> rolled and burned. Police say no speeding or dangerous driving was
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>> still drive long distances across the state to compete against other
>> towns.

Hey stupid. As i explained, cars don't crash themselves. The driver did
something wrong and the idiot cops just haven't figured it out yet.  THINK,  
criminal coddler.
necromancer - 27 Jul 2008 23:23 GMT
SFB spewed:

> Hey stupid. As i explained, cars don't crash themselves. The driver did
> something wrong and the idiot cops just haven't figured it out yet.  THINK,
> criminal coddler.

So, you are saying that your beater didn't accelerate to 41MPH in a 25
zone on its own, you blood sucking criminal?

Oh, yeah: Quiet, kOoK!

--
I am necromancer and I approved this poast.
Retardo Mazzablatti, - 28 Jul 2008 01:33 GMT
> SFB spewed:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> --
> I am necromancer and I approved this poast.

Speaking of four, I had this dream about these four arrogant gay men,
completely oblivious to the world around them, but behaving as if they
owned the place, thinking they were highly intelligent, but they
weren't, always marginal, suddenly thinking they were genius.

Femme flamers, artificials, always making a deal, you know, and
everybody always turns away, uncomfortable, and they're aware, the gay
men, they are ostracized, but they can never figure out why,  they are
lightweight dorks with a mistaken sense of their importance,  and are
simply dismissed by everyone they meet, though they tell themselves
the problem really isn't them, they say, " oh, other people are afraid
of me because I am so important" when other people simply find their
mistaken sense of self, and their grandiose sense of self importance,
their affect, well, goofy. (sic) (For those illiterate users of strunk
and white, may your army never lose). Their sexuality isn't' the
issue, their delusions about themselves are, including a mistaken
belief they are heterosexual.

You know the type?

And not to  insult gay men, femme men have integrity , of course, this
is more the David Geffen type, david pfouffle type.

Sometimes I think Hitler's master race would have manifested as
untalented, trolled, gay euro trash, see, the jews did get the last
laugh.

God knows everybody else is...
David Johnston - 28 Jul 2008 00:07 GMT
>Hey stupid. As i explained, cars don't crash themselves.

Sure they do.  Brakes fail, tires blow, and engines catch on fire.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 28 Jul 2008 03:38 GMT
>>Hey stupid. As i explained, cars don't crash themselves.
>
> Sure they do.  Brakes fail, tires blow, and engines catch on fire.  

Hey stupid. Brakes don't fail - ever hear of dual master cylinders. Tires
don't blow out anymore,  And engines do not catch on fire and even if they
did that wouldn't cause a crash - you just hit the brakes. THINK, you
moron.
David Johnston - 28 Jul 2008 03:49 GMT
>>>Hey stupid. As i explained, cars don't crash themselves.
>>
>> Sure they do.  Brakes fail, tires blow, and engines catch on fire.  
>
>Hey stupid. Brakes don't fail -

Mine did.  

ever hear of dual master cylinders. Tires
>don't blow out anymore,  And engines do not catch on fire

Yes they do.  So tell me, is it reasonable to expect a driver who has
been driving for a matter of months to be infallible?
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 28 Jul 2008 17:02 GMT
>  So tell me, is it reasonable to expect a driver who has
> been driving for a matter of months to be infallible?  

That's pathetic.  The old "nobody's perfect" excuse. Four people are dead
and that's all you can say.  GFY, you hater.
David Johnston - 28 Jul 2008 18:31 GMT
>>  So tell me, is it reasonable to expect a driver who has
>> been driving for a matter of months to be infallible?  
>
>That's pathetic.  The old "nobody's perfect" excuse

You yourself have admitted to and boasted of violating traffic laws
and driving dangerously without the excuse of inexperienced.  You're
not better.  You're just lucky.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 29 Jul 2008 05:50 GMT
>>>  So tell me, is it reasonable to expect a driver who has
>>> been driving for a matter of months to be infallible?  
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> and driving dangerously without the excuse of inexperienced.  You're
> not better.  You're just lucky.  

No i haven't, you liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
David Johnston - 29 Jul 2008 15:38 GMT
>>>>  So tell me, is it reasonable to expect a driver who has
>>>> been driving for a matter of months to be infallible?  
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>No i haven't, you liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes you have.  You posted about how you liked to deliberately block
off lanes so that nobody could pass.  That's dangerous driving.  It
could one day lead to an accident.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 29 Jul 2008 20:22 GMT
> Yes you have.  You posted about how you liked to deliberately block
> off lanes so that nobody could pass.  That's dangerous driving.  It
> could one day lead to an accident.  

That's not a crime, you idiot. As long as i'm doing the speed limit i can
sit in the left lane all i want.
DanKMTB@gmail.com - 29 Jul 2008 20:49 GMT
On Jul 29, 3:22 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Yes you have.  You posted about how you liked to deliberately block
> > off lanes so that nobody could pass.  That's dangerous driving.  It
> > could one day lead to an accident.  
>
> That's not a crime, you idiot. As long as i'm doing the speed limit i can
> sit in the left lane all i want.

No, you can't.  It's impeding traffic.  It's still against the law,
idiot.  Here's a quick example.
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/01/23/news/doc45b556804e38a132900354.txt
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 30 Jul 2008 07:04 GMT
> On Jul 29, 3:22 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> No, you can't.  It's impeding traffic.  It's still against the law,
> idiot.  

I'm not impeding traffic. I'm impeding the criminal speeders. I should get
a medal.
DanKMTB@gmail.com - 30 Jul 2008 17:01 GMT
On Jul 30, 2:04 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com> wrote innews:cfb48c70-29c9-4792-8ada-ac4ff0af44d3@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> I'm not impeding traffic.

Yes, you are.

> I'm impeding the criminal speeders.

Speeding does not change the fact that they are traffic.

> I should get a medal.

What you feel you should get is irrelevent.  You said  that it's not a
crime.  You were wrong, as usual.  It is a crime.  I even linked you
to an article that shows that is illegal, and gives instances of
police writing tickets for it.  Are you so slow that you can't tell
the difference between the way you feel things should be and what is
law?  You said, and I quote:  "That's not a crime, you idiot. As long
as i'm doing the speed limit i can sit in the left lane all i want.".
You were wrong, as usual, you idiot.  It IS a crime.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 30 Jul 2008 18:17 GMT
> What you feel you should get is irrelevent.  You said  that it's not a
> crime.  You were wrong, as usual.  It is a crime.  I even linked you
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> as i'm doing the speed limit i can sit in the left lane all i want.".
> You were wrong, as usual, you idiot.  It IS a crime.

Hey stupid.  How many times do we have to explain this?. I am the law-
abiding citizen obeying the speed limit and those that are trying to pass
me are the criminals!!! My gawd, but you're stupid.
DanKMTB@gmail.com - 30 Jul 2008 19:42 GMT
On Jul 30, 1:17 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com> wrote innews:89718b8a-c207-4c97-ab37-0e85cf5eea7b@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> abiding citizen obeying the speed limit and those that are trying to pass
> me are the criminals!!! My gawd, but you're stupid.

Man, I feel like I'm picking on a cripple.  I should probably stop.
Anyway, repetition of falsities does not make them true.  You are not
a law-abiding citizen in this instance; you're breaking the law.  See
the link I posted and talk to any of the hundreds of drivers who were
ticketed for breaking the same law you advocate breaking and take
pride in breaking.
David Johnston - 29 Jul 2008 21:13 GMT
>> Yes you have.  You posted about how you liked to deliberately block
>> off lanes so that nobody could pass.  That's dangerous driving.  It
>> could one day lead to an accident.  
>
>That's not a crime, you idiot. As long as i'm doing the speed limit i can
>sit in the left lane all i want.

You have also boasted about violating the speed limit in order to
tailgate other speeders.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 30 Jul 2008 07:05 GMT
>>> Yes you have.  You posted about how you liked to deliberately block
>>> off lanes so that nobody could pass.  That's dangerous driving.  It
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> You have also boasted about violating the speed limit in order to
> tailgate other speeders.  

I never said that, you idiot.
Kadaitcha Man - 30 Jul 2008 06:45 GMT
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AE8D17227F2Briemann1850yahoocom@216.168.3.70...
> David Johnston <david@block.net> wrote in
> news:0pvp84pq21q9dnfbdg0p6l2030man5ojap@4ax.com:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> wrong and either the cops are too dumb to figure it out or they're lying to  
> protect the families - for a fee of course.

Sure they do, especially if stupid technicians or you screwed the cars ahead of time, eventually cars will break, that's what they meant, you're just too stupid Mexican sh.t eater.........
DanKMTB@gmail.com - 29 Jul 2008 17:09 GMT
On Jul 27, 10:38 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >>Hey stupid. As i explained, cars don't crash themselves.
>
> > Sure they do.  Brakes fail, tires blow, and engines catch on fire.  
>
> Hey stupid. Brakes don't fail - ever hear of dual master cylinders.

ahahahahahaaa....  hahahahahaa....  <gasp> hahahahaa...  oh my...
hahahahahaaa...

And to think I ignored this post up until today, when I got a little
bored.  Good stuff!

I've had brakes fail on 2 of my cars, and never driven anything as
beaterish as to have bald tires that would require gluing sandpaper
(not that the sandpaper and glue required would cost much if any more
than a set of used tires).

I'm so glad I stopped in.  I was due for a good laugh.
Greg Goss - 29 Jul 2008 19:23 GMT
>On Jul 27, 10:38 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
><xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>
>> Hey stupid. Brakes don't fail - ever hear of dual master cylinders.

On a friend's car, the brakes failed.  She stopped herself with the
handbrake.  I suspect that the alternate pair already failed and she
never noticed.

>ahahahahahaaa....  hahahahahaa....  <gasp> hahahahaa...  oh my...
>hahahahahaaa...
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>(not that the sandpaper and glue required would cost much if any more
>than a set of used tires).

I had a tire chain disintegrate and tear out a brake line once.  I
continued the trip driving very gently and using the other pair.
Signature

Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27

Kadaitcha Man - 30 Jul 2008 06:45 GMT
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AE8D17227F2Briemann1850yahoocom@216.168.3.70...
> David Johnston <david@block.net> wrote in
> news:0pvp84pq21q9dnfbdg0p6l2030man5ojap@4ax.com:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> wrong and either the cops are too dumb to figure it out or they're lying to  
> protect the families - for a fee of course.

Sure they do, especially if stupid technicians or you screwed the cars ahead of time, eventually cars will break, that's what they meant, you're just too stupid Mexican sh.t eater.........
necromancer - 27 Jul 2008 20:36 GMT
SFB spewed:

> Article says

> lse as usually happens.

Quiet, kOoK!
David Johnston - 28 Jul 2008 00:05 GMT
>On the way, the car crashed, rolled and burned. Police say no speeding or
>dangerous driving was involved, and they still aren't sure why the car
>caught fire.

So then they were idiots for driving at all?
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 28 Jul 2008 03:35 GMT
>>On the way, the car crashed, rolled and burned. Police say no speeding
>>or dangerous driving was involved, and they still aren't sure why the
>>car caught fire.
>
> So then they were idiots for driving at all?  

Cars don't crash all by themselves, you moron.  The driver did something
wrong and either the cops are too dumb to figure it out or they're lying to  
protect the families - for a fee of course.
Kadaitcha Man - 30 Jul 2008 06:44 GMT
>>>On the way, the car crashed, rolled and burned. Police say no speeding
>>>or dangerous driving was involved, and they still aren't sure why the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> wrong and either the cops are too dumb to figure it out or they're lying to  
> protect the families - for a fee of course.

Sure they do, especially if stupid technicians or you screwed the cars ahead of time, eventually cars will break, that's what they meant, you're just too stupid Mexican sh.t eater.........
mr.arcadian@gmail.com - 28 Jul 2008 15:44 GMT
On Jul 26, 9:45 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/25862367/
>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> or doing something wrong and thank god they only killed themselves and
> not someone else as usually happens.

yeah i agree, they did something wrong many people think im wrong but
they shouldnt let teens drive at all, some say they had 2 years
experience. Im like HUH!?!?! 2 years legal driving age isnt til 16
even 17. i know they let them drive the tractor and all.

but give me a break here. im sure no animals were involve lotsa of
people saying a dog or some animal might have jumped in front of them.
this was MID-DAY!

if you werent paying attention to the road something is wrong.

IM sure the police is covering something up, and im 100% sure that the
car was rather new at least 4 years old. its wasnt pop old buick they
were driving.

Parent should be held responsible, they should not let teen drive til
they are legal age regardless if they are helping on the farm. they
screwed up, and pay for it dearly.

i hope this town learns from the mistake, but i doubt it really. just
a lot of hard headed people out there, that just wont listen to
reason.

.
David Johnston - 28 Jul 2008 16:24 GMT
>> Article says no dangerous driving was involved but you can bet that's a
>> lie. =A0Cars don't crash on their own. These idiots were speeding or drun=
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>yeah i agree, they did something wrong many people think im wrong but
>they shouldnt let teens drive at all

So then people have their crashes when they're 21?  How does that
help?
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 28 Jul 2008 17:01 GMT
> On Jul 26, 9:45 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> Article says no dangerous driving was involved but you can bet that's
>> a lie.  Cars don't crash on their own. These idiots were speeding or
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> experience. Im like HUH!?!?! 2 years legal driving age isnt til 16
> even 17. i know they let them drive the tractor and all.

I've been saying for years the driving age should be 18 or maybe even
higher. 21 sounds good.
Harry K - 28 Jul 2008 17:11 GMT
On Jul 28, 9:01 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> mr.arcad...@gmail.com wrote innews:cf4476a6-43aa-47a1-8af1-ac97742c1d3f@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> I've been saying for years the driving age should be 18 or maybe even
> higher. 21 sounds good.

Yeah but as usual what you say is idiotic.

Harry K
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 29 Jul 2008 05:52 GMT
> On Jul 28, 9:01 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> mr.arcad...@gmail.com wrote
>> innews:cf4476a6-43aa-47a1-8af1-ac97742c1d3f@u

>> > yeah i agree, they did something wrong many people think im wrong
>> > but they shouldnt let teens drive at all, some say they had 2 years
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Harry K

"You're an idiot" is not an argument!!   THINK
Harry K - 29 Jul 2008 19:49 GMT
On Jul 28, 9:52 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > On Jul 28, 9:01 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> > <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

So you can't read also?  I didn't say "you're and idiot".  Have one of
your mentally challenged children explain it to you.

Harry K
Kadaitcha Man - 30 Jul 2008 06:45 GMT
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AE8D17227F2Briemann1850yahoocom@216.168.3.70...
> David Johnston <david@block.net> wrote in
> news:0pvp84pq21q9dnfbdg0p6l2030man5ojap@4ax.com:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> wrong and either the cops are too dumb to figure it out or they're lying to  
> protect the families - for a fee of course.

Sure they do, especially if stupid technicians or you screwed the cars ahead of time, eventually cars will break, that's what they meant, you're just too stupid Mexican sh.t eater.........
necromancer - 31 Jul 2008 02:55 GMT
On Jul 29, 12:52 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > On Jul 28, 9:01 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> > <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> "You're an idiot" is not an argument!!   THINK

You're an idiot.

And, Quiet, kOoK!
mcl2@pitt.edu - 28 Jul 2008 18:56 GMT
On Jul 27, 12:45 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"

> Article says no dangerous driving was involved but you can bet that's a
> lie.

I doubt taht they would deliberately tell an unthrth - even though
they may have been mistaken.

>  Cars don't crash on their own.

Sure they do!  Like Bo posted here last week:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1175191.ece

But even without that, there are always flat tires at high, but legal
speeds, gas leaks, people can fall asllep or get otyherwise
distracted.  Hundreds of things can happen when driving a car, no
matter how safe you think you are.

Driving at high, but legal, speeds is a dangerous activity.

> These idiots were speeding or drunk
> or doing something wrong

And you know this how?

> and thank god they only killed themselves and
> not someone else as usually happens.

Four teens are dead with no indication that they did anything wrong.

Read your staement again. Does it sound creepy to you?

If it doesn't sound creepy to you, maybe you need to do some serious
re-assessment.

Mick
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 29 Jul 2008 05:55 GMT
mcl2@pitt.edu wrote in news:087041bd-6951-4526-8a0e-827fa1bca1a2
@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

> But even without that, there are always flat tires at high, but legal
> speeds, gas leaks, people can fall asllep or get otyherwise
> distracted.  Hundreds of things can happen when driving a car, no
> matter how safe you think you are.

Flat tires don't cause loss of control. Falling asleep at the wheel is the
driver's fault, you idiot. Very few accidents on the highways. A deer
running into your path causing you to swerve and lose control might qualify
as an accident.
Harry K - 29 Jul 2008 19:50 GMT
On Jul 28, 9:55 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> m...@pitt.edu wrote in news:087041bd-6951-4526-8a0e-827fa1bca1a2
> @e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> running into your path causing you to swerve and lose control might qualify
> as an accident.

Didn't you jusst tell me that calling someone an idiot is not an
argument?

Harry K
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 29 Jul 2008 20:26 GMT
> On Jul 28, 9:55 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Harry K

I'm addressing the issue with facts and calling you an idiot is incidental.
OTOH your replies are nothing but personal attacks.  THINK, you pathetic
miserable hater.
Kadaitcha Man - 30 Jul 2008 06:45 GMT
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AE8D17227F2Briemann1850yahoocom@216.168.3.70...
> David Johnston <david@block.net> wrote in
> news:0pvp84pq21q9dnfbdg0p6l2030man5ojap@4ax.com:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> wrong and either the cops are too dumb to figure it out or they're lying to  
> protect the families - for a fee of course.

Sure they do, especially if stupid technicians or you screwed the cars ahead of time, eventually cars will break, that's what they meant, you're just too stupid Mexican sh.t eater.........
mcl2@pitt.edu - 30 Jul 2008 21:36 GMT
On Jul 29, 3:26 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>   THINK, you pathetic
> miserable hater.-

S.A.D.D.A.M., If you made this your goal and tried to follow it, you
would bring peace of mind to many.

Mick
necromancer - 31 Jul 2008 03:00 GMT
SFB spewed:

> I'm addressing the issue with facts and calling you an idiot is incidental.
> OTOH your replies are nothing but personal attacks.  THINK, you pathetic
> miserable hater.

Is that what your mother called her john that night 9 months before
your birthday when the condom broke?
Kadaitcha Man - 30 Jul 2008 06:45 GMT
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AE8D17227F2Briemann1850yahoocom@216.168.3.70...
> David Johnston <david@block.net> wrote in
> news:0pvp84pq21q9dnfbdg0p6l2030man5ojap@4ax.com:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> wrong and either the cops are too dumb to figure it out or they're lying to  
> protect the families - for a fee of course.

Sure they do, especially if stupid technicians or you screwed the cars ahead of time, eventually cars will break, that's what they meant, you're just too stupid Mexican sh.t eater.........
necromancer - 31 Jul 2008 02:58 GMT
SFB spewed:

> A deer
> running into your path causing you to swerve and lose control might qualify
> as an accident.

The only accident around here occurred in a Super 8 between your
mother and one of her johns about 9 months before you were born, you
worthless sack of sh.t.
My Land of Misery - 31 Jul 2008 03:48 GMT
> SFB spewed:
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> mother and one of her johns about 9 months before you were born, you
> worthless sack of sh.t.

What will never be determined is whether the mother in question was
drunk or stoned at the time.

---

"SQUEEEEEAAAAALLLL!"
    - Ned Beatty
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atwitchell@hotmail.com - 02 Aug 2008 15:37 GMT
On Jul 26, 10:45 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/25862367/
>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> or doing something wrong and thank god they only killed themselves and
> not someone else as usually happens.

FOR ALL OF YOU WHO ARE CALLING THESE TEENS IDIOTS AND INSISTING UPON
THEM BEING DRUNK OR SPEEDING, WHY DONT YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTHS AND STUPID
OPINIONS FOR A MINUTE AND REALIZE THAT TWO OF THE BOYS THAT DIED WERE
BROTHERS AND THE ONLY KIDS THOSE PARENTS HAD. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD YOU
PEOPLE ARE FRICKEN MEAN. THERE WAS NO ALCOHOL INVOLVED BECAUSE HERE IN
MONTANA, THEY DO BLOOD TESTS! SO STICK THAT. IT WAS BASKETBALL CAMP
THEY WERE HEADED TO IN THE MORNING NOT A PARTY.
 
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